2020 US Presidential Election

[lost in melb.]

So at least 24 cases out of 36 have been denied, dismissed, settled, or withdrawn.

NONE have uncovered election fraud that even remotely equals 'dems stole the election'.

Here's another major one in PA thrown out ass first:

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057.202.0_1.pdf

Judges comments:



...This Court has been unable to find any case in which
a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated. One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens.

That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more. At bottom, Plaintiffs have failed to meet their burden to state a claim upon which relief may be granted. Therefore, I grant Defendants’ motions and dismiss Plaintiffs’ action with prejudice..

[lost in melb.]

It's all bullshit.

Of the 30 lawsuits, all of them have been either dropped or thrown out of court. But, on TV, Guliani says the opposite and rehashes all the bogus allegations. What Team Trump is trying to do is cast doubt about the integrity of the election in the hopes that the state secretaries of state in critical states will disgregard the popular vote and allow Team Trump to install his own electors. THAT is the strategy because he has failed in courts of law.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1330319750094860290

And there we have it. The plot to subvert democracy revealed in its Shameful Glory!

[DemonGeminiX]

I'm betting there is election fraud. There always is. The question is whether they can uncover enough of it in time to warrant overturning an election. Regardless, outside of everybody's feelings for the candidates, this does highlight a serious need for a nonpartisan overhaul of our election system. Not in the way we elect our servants, but how the voting is conducted and overseen. It is clearly way too easy to throw a monkey wrench into things, and people have proven that they can't be unbiased enough to be trusted with maintaining the integrity of the system.

[Griffin]

And there we have it. The plot to subvert democracy revealed in its Shameful Glory!

About time you finally realized that the democrats had a plot to subvert democracy but were caught in their blatant attempt.

[FBD]

I heard they want to start in Georgia...

note the difference between recount and audit ;)

[FBD]

So at least 24 cases out of 36 have been denied, dismissed, settled, or withdrawn.

NONE have uncovered election fraud that even remotely equals 'dems stole the election'.

Here's another major one in PA thrown out ass first:

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057.202.0_1.pdf

Judges comments:

quote the corrupt all you want, its not going to change the outcome ;) everyone who participated in the fraud gets theirs this time around, Matthew Brann included, did you even read this whole thing before you quoted the top of it :lol: this might as well be a fuggin msm article :rofl:

look at this torture of logic :lol:

“In Philadelphia County, poll watchers and canvass representatives were denied access altogether in some instances.”

None of these allegations (or the others in this section) claim that the Trump Campaign’s watchers were treated differently than the Biden campaign’s watchers.

after the judge hand waves away most of it without really refuting anything,

Plaintiffs’ only remaining claim alleges a violation of equal protection.

this moron just tosses the notion of bush v gore right out the window with another hand wave and non address
this judge is a fuckin wacko and is one of the enemies.

Plaintiffs seek to amend simply in order to effectively reinstate their initial complaint and claims;


, Individual Plaintiffs have not shown that their purported injuries are fairly traceable to Secretary Boockvar. Individual Plaintiffs have entirely failed to establish any causal relationship between Secretary Boockvar and the cancellation of their votes. The only connection the Individual Plaintiffs even attempt to draw is that Secretary Boockvar sent an email on November 2, 2020 to some number of counties, encouraging them to adopt a notice-and-cure policy. However, they fail to allege which counties received this email or what information was specifically included therein. Further, that this email encouraged counties to adopt a notice-and-cure policy does not suggest in any way that Secretary Boockvar intended or desired Individual Plaintiffs’ votes to be cancelled
hilariously tortured


as usual, look under the covers and...

[lost in melb.]

About time you finally realized that the democrats had a plot to subvert democracy but were caught in their blatant attempt.

Nonsense.


quote the corrupt all you want, its not going to change the outcome ;) everyone who participated in the fraud gets theirs this time around, Matthew Brann included, did you even read this whole thing before you quoted the top of it :lol: this might as well be a fuggin msm article :rofl:

Huh?

[lost in melb.]

Trump barely won in 2016. Why is it you find it hard to believe Trump lost with the Covid debacle, his failure to produce a better health care plan and his failure to get Mexico to pay for the wall (his signature promise)?

[lost in melb.]

quote the corrupt all you want, its not going to change the outcome ;) everyone who participated in the fraud gets theirs this time around, Matthew Brann included, did you even read this whole thing before you quoted the top of it :lol: this might as well be a fuggin msm article :rofl:

look at this torture of logic :lol:



after the judge hand waves away most of it without really refuting anything,


this moron just tosses the notion of bush v gore right out the window with another hand wave and non address
this judge is a fuckin wacko and is one of the enemies.



hilariously tortured


as usual, look under the covers and...

Oh here we go, now you've just lost the plot

[lost in melb.]

https://i.ibb.co/4Y9k3BP/FakeNews.png (https://ibb.co/YyYgwvp)

[lost in melb.]

https://youtu.be/r9fvheU0Lm4

[FBD]

Trump barely won in 2016. Why is it you find it hard to believe Trump lost with the Covid debacle, his failure to produce a better health care plan and his failure to get Mexico to pay for the wall (his signature promise)?

Trump won 2016 despite all the electoral fraud that was going to guarantee Hillary her win, if you didnt think Hillary's 99% chance of winning was suspect, I've got a bridge to sell you :lol:

Healthcare...aside from the fact that the fedgov doesnt have the enumerated authority to provide health care for citizens, he got rid of the catastrophic individual mandate and would have done more if the left wasnt assaulting him with fake garbage. He's consistently said that Obamacare isnt even necessary, good and real pricing is what's necessary - and he's already hit a home run in that area for anyone who has regular prescriptions.

Mexico paying for the wall was always going to be found in the savings, Mexico has already paid for a human wall on the border in the form of their national guard.

And if you dont realize the "covid debacle" was a purposeful release of bioengineered bullshit that dr fauci's signature kept the research & funding going for after it was outlawed in the USA....ya might just be drinking kool aid :razz: It was done on purpose 1 year in advance of our elections here for a reason.

[FBD]

Oh here we go, now you've just lost the plot

You dont believe its possible that some judges are corrupt? :lol: No, I havent lost the plot, you've just lost the scent of the trail, again. I kept reading instead of quoting the opening paragraph and moving on like I've won :lol:


These things literally matter little though, because Dominion.

[Griffin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owAFhEesVyk

[lost in melb.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owAFhEesVyk


I like videos that get straight to it



https://youtu.be/r9fvheU0Lm4

[lost in melb.]

Trump won 2016 despite all the electoral fraud that was going to guarantee Hillary her win, if you didnt think Hillary's 99% chance of winning was suspect, I've got a bridge to sell you :lol:

Healthcare...aside from the fact that the fedgov doesnt have the enumerated authority to provide health care for citizens, he got rid of the catastrophic individual mandate and would have done more if the left wasnt assaulting him with fake garbage. He's consistently said that Obamacare isnt even necessary, good and real pricing is what's necessary - and he's already hit a home run in that area for anyone who has regular prescriptions.

Mexico paying for the wall was always going to be found in the savings, Mexico has already paid for a human wall on the border in the form of their national guard.

And if you dont realize the "covid debacle" was a purposeful release of bioengineered bullshit that dr fauci's signature kept the research & funding going for after it was outlawed in the USA....ya might just be drinking kool aid :razz: It was done on purpose 1 year in advance of our elections here for a reason.

https://cdn.unifiedcommerce.com/content/product/large/705988119446-L.jpg

[Griffin]

I like videos that get straight to it

You can find those here (https://www.pornhub.com/gayporn). :thumbsup:

HINT-click the word "here" above

[lost in melb.]

You can find those here (https://www.pornhub.com/gayporn). :thumbsup:

HINT-click the word "here" above

I have no intention of clicking that, nor do I have any intention of watching an 8 minute video. At least I have the courtesy of giving you something less than a minute long :)

[FBD]

I like videos that get straight to it

getting straight to it = we have the cia's go-corporate pet project server(s) in hand, and it means Trump won.

there is nothing anyone can do to stop what's coming, its puzzling why you are defending the mega corporations' take on this

https://i.imgur.com/gSpXvHr.jpg

[DemonGeminiX]

Trump barely won in 2016. Why is it you find it hard to believe Trump lost with the Covid debacle, his failure to produce a better health care plan and his failure to get Mexico to pay for the wall (his signature promise)?

The Covid took him down. Healthcare had nothing to do with it. The majority of sane Americans don't want the government involved in what should be handled by the free market. Obamacare was (and will be again if and when Biden takes over) a disaster. Personally, I (and many others) don't give a shit about the wall as long as INS is allowed to do their job without local interference.

[DemonGeminiX]

By the way, Biden will do no better with Covid than Trump did. He's already declared (yesterday or the day before), that there will be no national shutdown. People that voted for him believing he'll handle it better than Trump did are in for a rude awakening.

[FBD]

:-k

1) 2019-GA rushes to install new Dominion voting systems in record time:

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/georgia-bets-new-voting-system-amid-high-stakes-election/XVR7Jw5i1J7MiZ11O8xUZK/

2) (Sidney Powell later makes assertion that Secretary of State and governor receive compensation for this)

Sidney Powell: “Georgia is the first state I’m going to blow up. And Mr. Kemp and the Secretary of State need to go with it because they’re in on this Dominion scam with their last minute purchase!”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/georgia-first-state-going-blow-mr-kemp-secretary-state-need-go-sidney-powell-releases-kraken-video/

3) Some ppl raise concerns. In fact there is even a court case bc Dominion wants to make "minor" updates the the software less than a month before the election.
Around p 67 you can see the Computer Scientist's objections.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.240678/gov.uscourts.gand.240678.935.0.pdf


Here is an article that lays out the concerns:
The experts also said the report indicates multiple changes to the source code, meaning there's a greater likelihood of unintended side effects and opening the door for hackers. The safeguards and testing outlined by the state to mitigate those risks are inadequate, the experts said. The process of updating the software requires completely replacing the core of the Dominion software on every voting machine, one of the experts, University of Michigan computer science professor J. Alex Halderman, testified last week according to a transcript of the closed-door hearing unsealed Monday. "(T)his is not a typical procedure to be going through," he said. "In an emergency, perhaps you would need to. But even then, it would be an extremely risky thing to be doing both from a correctness standpoint and from a security standpoint."https://www.startribune.com/with-time-short-judge-mulls-georgia-voting-system-changes/572663812/

(cont.)

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Anonymous (ID: uDuLgZ2v) 11/22/20(Sun)09:51:14 No.292387660▶>>292387719 >>292387756

>>292387583
https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/secretary_raffensperger_announces_completion_of_vo ting_machine_audit_using_forensic_techniques_no_si gn_of_foul_playDominion makes updates to Georgia's machines four days before the election."We have confirmed that no Dominion company employee contacted the county about a last-minute update to the system,” a Dominion spokesperson said in a statement. The spokesperson added, “The state can confirm that the final update took place on October 31st."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/georgia-election-machine-glitch-434065

.....and then one day for no reason at all, GA flipped blue.


There's so many different ways fraud was committed, I can see how it is that some people are easily led astray by conflating various contexts

make sure you look for that green check mark so you can believe it, k
https://i.imgur.com/2xpVJEJ.png


https://i.imgur.com/bNiyyzs.jpg

[lost in melb.]

By the way, Biden will do no better with Covid than Trump did. He's already declared (yesterday or the day before), that there will be no national shutdown. People that voted for him believing he'll handle it better than Trump did are in for a rude awakening.

He might prevent a few death through better leadership.

Agree though, how many millions have it now? You guys are definitely past containment.

[lost in melb.]

:-k


1) 2019-GA rushes to install new Dominion voting systems in record time:

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regi...J7MiZ11O8xUZK/

2) (Sidney Powell later makes assertion that Secretary of State and governor receive compensation for this)

Sidney Powell: “Georgia is the first state I’m going to blow up. And Mr. Kemp and the Secretary of State need to go with it because they’re in on this Dominion scam with their last minute purchase!”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-kraken-video/

3) Some ppl raise concerns. In fact there is even a court case bc Dominion wants to make "minor" updates the the software less than a month before the election.
Around p 67 you can see the Computer Scientist's objections.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/...0678.935.0.pdf


Here is an article that lays out the concerns:
The experts also said the report indicates multiple changes to the source code, meaning there's a greater likelihood of unintended side effects and opening the door for hackers. The safeguards and testing outlined by the state to mitigate those risks are inadequate, the experts said. The process of updating the software requires completely replacing the core of the Dominion software on every voting machine, one of the experts, University of Michigan computer science professor J. Alex Halderman, testified last week according to a transcript of the closed-door hearing unsealed Monday. "(T)his is not a typical procedure to be going through," he said. "In an emergency, perhaps you would need to. But even then, it would be an extremely risky thing to be doing both from a correctness standpoint and from a security standpoint."https://www.startribune.com/with-time-short-judge-mulls-georgia-voting-system-changes/572663812/

(cont.)

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Anonymous (ID: uDuLgZ2v) 11/22/20(Sun)09:51:14 No.292387660▶>>292387719 >>292387756

>>292387583
https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/electio...l_playDominion makes updates to Georgia's machines four days before the election."We have confirmed that no Dominion company employee contacted the county about a last-minute update to the system,” a Dominion spokesperson said in a statement. The spokesperson added, “The state can confirm that the final update took place on October 31st."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...-glitch-434065

.....and then one day for no reason at all, GA flipped blue.


There's so many different ways fraud was committed, I can see how it is that some people are easily led astray by conflating various contexts

make sure you look for that green check mark so you can believe it, k
https://i.imgur.com/2xpVJEJ.png


https://i.imgur.com/bNiyyzs.jpg







Dude, whatever day job you're doing you should just drop immediately and get on Trump's legal team!

This wealth, this unbelievable gold mine of documentary evidence is just what they need to turn it all around. Seriously dude, get on it!

[FBD]

Dude, whatever day job you're doing you should just drop immediately and get on Trump's legal team! This wealth, this unbelievable gold mine of documentary evidence is just what they need to turn it all around. Seriously dude, get on it!

:lol: yes, silly me, why dont I just listen to corporate pundits instead of looking at information myself and deciding...you're going to look back on this behavior and say man, I was making such an ass of myself :lol:

[lost in melb.]

:lol: yes, silly me, why dont I just listen to corporate pundits instead of looking at information myself and deciding...you're going to look back on this behavior and say man, I was making such an ass of myself :lol:

No, no, but you're missing my point. You shouldn't be wasting this stuff on us. Time is of the essence!!

You need to immediately get to Washington with this under your arm and get some of those legal cases won!!!

[DemonGeminiX]

He might prevent a few death through better leadership.

He's no better than Trump. The only thing Biden has that Trump didn't was the D next to his name. That will prevent the media from going after him or looking too hard into his shady dealings. In terms of shady dealings, he's far worse than Trump ever was. But you wouldn't know it by the way the media handles him with kid's gloves.

[lost in melb.]

He's no better than Trump. The only thing Biden has that Trump didn't was the D next to his name. That will prevent the media from going after him or looking too hard into his shady dealings. In terms of shady dealings, he's far worse than Trump ever was. But you wouldn't know it by the way the media handles him with kid's gloves.

Well, Trump will have had 11 months by the time he leaves office. We'll see if Biden can do better after 11 months.

[lost in melb.]

He's no better than Trump. The only thing Biden has that Trump didn't was the D next to his name. That will prevent the media from going after him or looking too hard into his shady dealings. In terms of shady dealings, he's far worse than Trump ever was. But you wouldn't know it by the way the media handles him with kid's gloves.

https://joebiden.com/covid-plan/

Maybe a few years after Trump leaves office he'll finally provide that health care plan he's been promising is a "few weeks" away since 2016.

[DemonGeminiX]

Well, Trump will have had 11 months by the time he leaves office. We'll see if Biden can do better after 11 months.

The only thing Biden will do better than Trump with respect to Covid, is Biden lying and unfairly taking credit for the vaccines that Trump pushed hard for and got pharmaceutical companies to work on and deliver. Even people that vote Democrat are starting to tell their state governments to go to hell over Covid mandates.


https://joebiden.com/covid-plan/

Maybe a few years after Trump leaves office he'll finally provide that health care plan he's been promising is a "few weeks" away since 2016.

The only healthcare plan we need is the one where the government isn't involved. They need to stay out of our business and stop telling us that we have to buy something. When the government mandates that we have to buy anything, it causes the market to artificially inflate the prices. It's not good for the consumer. And oh yeah, it's a violation of our freedoms, freedom to choose without government interference.

[Griffin]

The only thing that Obamacare did for me was raise my rates and deductibles, decrease my coverage and when I finally needed to use it after paying on it for decades was get declined because the hospital and insurance company were in a pissing contest over the rules instituted in the overly regulated bullshit in Obamacare.

[DemonGeminiX]

The only thing that Obamacare did for me was raise my rates and deductibles, decrease my coverage and when I finally needed to use it after paying on it for decades was get declined because the hospital and insurance company were in a pissing contest over the rules instituted in the overly regulated bullshit in Obamacare.

You're not the first person I've heard say that.

[Griffin]

You're not the first person I've heard say that.

Nor will you hear about it from the main stream media.

[DemonGeminiX]

Nor will you hear about it from the main stream media.

Of course not. You also won't hear about the millions of people that were kicked off their health insurance plan when the Obamacare mandates kicked in, and how they could only get back on a decent health insurance program after Trump took office and rolled back the mandates.

[Griffin]

The real icing on the cake was when I no longer had insurance through work, it cost me $850.00 as a fine for not picking up their $2500.00 per month marketplace crap.

[DemonGeminiX]

The real icing on the cake was when I no longer had insurance through work, it cost me $850.00 as a fine for not picking up their $2500.00 per month marketplace crap.

I guess the media wouldn't report on that either.

[Griffin]

The only thing you will see in the media is what the people who own the democrats want you to see.

...just ask the Aussies. :mrgreen:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

The only thing that Obamacare did for me was raise my rates and deductibles, decrease my coverage and when I finally needed to use it after paying on it for decades was get declined because the hospital and insurance company were in a pissing contest over the rules instituted in the overly regulated bullshit in Obamacare.When Obamacare passed, our group policy at work went up by 30% at renewal time. And every year after that, it kept going up by double digits, usually in the range of 25% give or take. Miraculously, in 2016 when Trump was elected, it was the first time in 5 or 6 years that the premiums didn't go up. It didn't go down, but at least it stayed flat. And it stayed that way through the entire 4 years of Trump's term. Can't wait to see what the renewal rates will look like next year.

[lost in melb.]

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1330556436062085122

You're fired!

Looks like there's a limit to the crap you can speak.

Yet Trump was in love. Lol...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327811527123103746

[lost in melb.]

When Obamacare passed, our group policy at work went up by 30% at renewal time. And every year after that, it kept going up by double digits, usually in the range of 25% give or take. Miraculously, in 2016 when Trump was elected, it was the first time in 5 or 6 years that the premiums didn't go up. It didn't go down, but at least it stayed flat. And it stayed that way through the entire 4 years of Trump's term. Can't wait to see what the renewal rates will look like next year.

Someone's pocketing huge amounts of cash...

[lost in melb.]

Someone's pocketing huge amounts of cash...

Oh and great job Team Trump coming up with an alternative :rolleyes:

[lost in melb.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owAFhEesVyk

:rofl:


Trump campaign DENIES attorney and QAnon supporter Sidney Powell is part of their legal team after she claimed Dems 'paid' to rig the election and said China and Hugo Chavez were behind a conspiracy at Rudy's press conference

[The Monk]

https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/6b/6b584417aa2f1f0cc6cb0eb7a6021721.jpeg

[The Monk]

The Covid took him down. Healthcare had nothing to do with it. The majority of sane Americans don't want the government involved in what should be handled by the free market. Obamacare was (and will be again if and when Biden takes over) a disaster. Personally, I (and many others) don't give a shit about the wall as long as INS is allowed to do their job without local interference.


Healthcare as a government provided service is alive and working well in many countries. Without it far too many people would incapacitated both physically and financially.

[DemonGeminiX]

Healthcare as a government provided service is alive and working well in many countries. Without it far too many people would incapacitated both physically and financially.

That's nice for other countries. We're not other countries. What we had before may not have been ideal, but it worked for the vast majority of Americans. The Obamacare crap made everything worse for a vast majority of Americans, 2 of which piped up here. It wasn't designed to help people, it was designed to make insurance companies money and to take away the choice from the American citizen. It was a big steaming pile of shit.

But hey, it was such amazing legislation. The only way that congressional members could bask in it's glory was to do as Herr Nancy said and 'pass it to find out what's in it' (which should NEVER happen in the USA).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV7dDSgbaQ0

[KevinD]

Hmm, let's see: previously my monthly payment was 310. My deductible was 250 (family plan, per person) my oop was 1500 (per person)
Now its 675/month, deductible is 2500/person, and oop is 10000 total.
Thanks Obama.

[Muddy]

Hmm, let's see: previously my monthly payment was 310. My deductible was 250 (family plan, per person) my oop was 1500 (per person)
Now its 675/month, deductible is 2500/person, and oop is 10000 total.
Thanks Obama.

You would have thought grand master Trump would have righted that wrong... But he sure as shit didn't..!

[DemonGeminiX]

You would have thought grand master Trump would have righted that wrong... But he sure as shit didn't..!

He couldn't do it without Congress.

[Griffin]

You would have thought grand master Trump would have righted that wrong... But he sure as shit didn't..!

Do you honestly think insurance companies are going to reduce rates after knowing what we will pay to keep coverage?

and before the socialists hop on board does it really matter if we pay a private insurer or send the same to the government in taxes?

[FBD]

You're fired!

No, not quite :rofl:


:rofl: Trump campaign DENIES attorney and QAnon supporter Sidney Powell is part of their legal team after she claimed Dems 'paid' to rig the election and said China and Hugo Chavez were behind a conspiracy at Rudy's press conference
Why am I not shocked to come here and find you spouting the latest conspiracy theories put forth by the idiot box? Sidney Powell was never hired by Trump, he never gave her a retainer or anything. She's Michael Flynn's lawyer, maybe you remember who Michael Flynn is? The idiots on the idiot box are who made the assertion that "Powell was Trump's lawyer" so here we are yet again with you being led around by the nose with conspiracy theories generated by the mega corporations :lol:







Someone's pocketing huge amounts of cash...
Of course someone's pocketing huge amounts of cash, people like Biden, Pelosi, Feinstein are pocketing the big bucks, but even little people like Kemp get payoffs too. Or do you still think Paul Ryan just up and decided he'd had enough of getting paid off :rofl:

[Muddy]

He couldn't do it without Congress.


Do you honestly think insurance companies are going to reduce rates after knowing what we will pay to keep coverage?

and before the socialists hop on board does it really matter if we pay a private insurer or send the same to the government in taxes?

My two biggest problems... Health insurance rates and college tuition rates. Both jumped the friggin shark about 10 years ago. Is it because they are unregulated?

[Griffin]

I'm blaming Obummer.

[DemonGeminiX]

My two biggest problems... Health insurance rates and college tuition rates. Both jumped the friggin shark about 10 years ago. Is it because they are unregulated?

10 years ago, Obama was President.

[FBD]

My two biggest problems... Health insurance rates and college tuition rates. Both jumped the friggin shark about 10 years ago. Is it because they are unregulated?

the cost curves for both of those have been rising insanely for a lot longer than 10 years. but that's what happens when the government backstops stuff, toilets go from $80 to $5000 seemingly overnight.

[lost in melb.]

No, not quite :rofl:


Why am I not shocked to come here and find you spouting the latest conspiracy theories put forth by the idiot box? Sidney Powell was never hired by Trump, he never gave her a retainer or anything. She's Michael Flynn's lawyer, maybe you remember who Michael Flynn is? The idiots on the idiot box are who made the assertion that "Powell was Trump's lawyer" so here we are yet again with you being led around by the nose with conspiracy theories generated by the mega corporations :lol:







Of course someone's pocketing huge amounts of cash, people like Biden, Pelosi, Feinstein are pocketing the big bucks, but even little people like Kemp get payoffs too. Or do you still think Paul Ryan just up and decided he'd had enough of getting paid off :rofl:

Hey dude,

I don't know what you're smoking. What part of this is factually incorrect? That's exactly what they did. They denied that she was part of their legal team, lol. And she said that stuff. Have a great day :)



Trump campaign DENIES attorney and QAnon supporter Sidney Powell is part of their legal team after she claimed Dems 'paid' to rig the election and said China and Hugo Chavez were behind a conspiracy at Rudy's press conference

[Muddy]

I'm blaming Obummer.


10 years ago, Obama was President.


the cost curves for both of those have been rising insanely for a lot longer than 10 years. but that's what happens when the government backstops stuff, toilets go from $80 to $5000 seemingly overnight.

They were seeing 30 and 50% increases before him... He just sealed it's fate...

[FBD]

Hey dude,

I don't know what you're smoking. What part of this is factually incorrect?

I'm shocked to see you put forth pieces and not the whole thing :lol: No I'm not, because the MSM is entirely relying on giving just pieces of information out and fucking them up in such a way that the poor uninformed who consume the garbage will have a difficult time telling what exactly the truth is when juxtaposed with the narrative put forth by the media.

Look at these fkn headlines, all talking about "Trump team cuts ties with Powell" "Trump lost patience with conspiracy theorist" "Trump disavows Powell" "Trump's legal team distances itself from Sidney Powell" "Trump parts ways with Powell after conspiracy theory" blah blah blah stfu you morons. Every single one of those statements is false.

And you're laughing at it like she's been fired, even quoted you're fired :lol: But let's not mention that when you're asking "what part of this is factually incorrect" :rofl:

[Griffin]

Michael Flynn Jr. Releases More Information on Trump Team’s Sidney Powell Statement — And It’s NOT What You Think

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/michael-flynn-jr-releases-information-trump-teams-sidney-powell-statement-not-think/

[FBD]

Michael Flynn Jr. Releases More Information on Trump Team’s Sidney Powell Statement — And It’s NOT What You Think

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/michael-flynn-jr-releases-information-trump-teams-sidney-powell-statement-not-think/


Just wait until Trump makes her the FBI director :lol:


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/BEE98684-A14B-41C4-835B-9BBC14EB64D5-484x600.jpeg

[lost in melb.]

I'm shocked to see you put forth pieces and not the whole thing :lol: No I'm not, because the MSM is entirely relying on giving just pieces of information out and fucking them up in such a way that the poor uninformed who consume the garbage will have a difficult time telling what exactly the truth is when juxtaposed with the narrative put forth by the media.

Look at these fkn headlines, all talking about "Trump team cuts ties with Powell" "Trump lost patience with conspiracy theorist" "Trump disavows Powell" "Trump's legal team distances itself from Sidney Powell" "Trump parts ways with Powell after conspiracy theory" blah blah blah stfu you morons. Every single one of those statements is false.

And you're laughing at it like she's been fired, even quoted you're fired :lol: But let's not mention that when you're asking "what part of this is factually incorrect" :rofl:

I know dude, obviously this lawyer was NEVER part of the team. They just wanted a crazy QAnon conspiracy theorist to start spouting insane waffle

https://twitter.com/BorisEP/status/1329537901110112257


Pssst, pssst. There's an opening in the team now. Your moment buddy!!! ;)

[Muddy]

:fbd:

[FBD]

Pssst, pssst.
>part of the legal team
>part of the legal team press conference

:lol: them pesky details

[lost in melb.]

>part of the legal team
>part of the legal team press conference

:lol: them pesky details

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327811527123103746


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYPqPJZQTlYclQZg6nbWTxKQ1s-x1Xra2cWA&usqp=CAU

https://www.wfla.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/71/2020/11/Rudy-Giuliani-And-Trump-Legal-Advisor-Hold-Press-Conference-At-RNC-HQ.jpg?w=1920&h=1080&crop=1




Got to give it to you dude. You've got a knack of turning nothing less than a systematic disaster and humiliation...utter relentless national and international humiliation and embarrassment all around the world on a scale your country has never seen and probably will never see again(!) into some kind of victory dance.

You are an unappreciated talent!! ( psst, is it something you put in your cookies?). :razz:

[FBD]

:lol: you've already lost, you just arent able to perceive it yet. the systemic disaster has been ongoing for 40-50+ years.

but this humiliation you're talking about :lol: nah, only the poor brainwashed who harp on every word of the traitor media believe anything Trump has done has been humiliating for America

[FBD]

Let's move on to the substance of why this hubbub with Sidney Powell happened at this time instead of the MSM idiocy that we know will be there until the last of the traitors are put in jail.



https://gnews.org/577635/


The link Between Dominion, Sequoia, Smartmatic, and the CCP


Powell shared this link and was immediately suspended by twitter


some excerpts

The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) opened an investigation into Sequoia only after Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), who chairs the subcommittee overseeing CFIUS and who co‐​authored the Foreign Investment and National Security Act 2007 (FINSA), wrote a letter to then‐​Treasury Secretary John Snow inquiring whether the Venezuelan government could use Sequoia to manipulate U.S. elections. Maloney cited the fact that the Venezuelan state had invested in Smartmatic’s affiliates, the company’s current ownership was buried in a labyrinth of offshore trusts, and revelations that Sequoia had flown 15 Venezuelan nationals to Chicago to tabulate votes in a local election. “There clearly remained doubt surrounding this company, and as long as those doubts lingered, many people would have legitimate questions about the integrity of these voting machines,” said Maloney. “When I first raised this case with Treasury, I thought that it was ripe for a CFIUS investigation, because the integrity of our voting machines is vital to national security. At that time, Smartmatic flatly refused to undergo a CFIUS review. But now it seems the company could not overcome the cloud of doubt surrounding this doubt – had they been able to, we would not be talking about a sale of Sequoia today. As I said in May, it seems that a CFIUS review was in fact the proper course.”


“The secrecy regarding CFIUS investigations is legendary: CFIUS was previously not allowed to tell Congress of the results–or even existence–of security reviews.” [1]


Key conclusion/question #4: why did Smartmatic retain this control over finances, intellectual property, and non-compete clauses, and why did CFIUS approve this arrangement?

At the end of April 2008, a shocking event occurred: one of Smartmatic’s founders, who was also the founder of the American company, died in a plane crash in Venezuela, along with Smartmatic’s finance department and the plane’s pilot. The Venezuelan Minister of the Interior (said to be a relative of the founder) was the first to arrive at the hospital, along with Jorge Rodriguez, former President of the Venezuelan Electoral Council and former Vice President of Venezuela.

Sequoia Holdings orchestrated a turnaround in 2010 with the acquisition by Dominion Voting System.


It is worth taking a closer look at the Sequoia group of companies, Sequoia Capital, Sequoia Capital China, and their particularly their founder Neil Shen. This is the key to the connection with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

definitely worth reading as 4 segues into 5


Key conclusion/question #5: Neil Shen is the key connection between the CCP, Sequoia, and Dominion Voting Systems and their work in the US elections.


Key individuals at Dominion are associated with the Carlyle Group, a U.S. multinational private equity, alternative asset management and financial services firm with more than $203 billion in assets under management.

Who is behind the Carlyle Group?

In April 2003, Carlyle Capital was managed by a team of former U.S. government personnel, including president Frank Carlucci (former Deputy Director of the CIA), former Secretary of Defense James Baker III (who served on George W. Bush’s Board of Governors), and James Baker III (who served on the Board of Directors of the National Security Agency).

The financial assets of the Saudi bin Laden Corporation (SBC) were also managed by the Carlyle Group before the 9/11 attack in New York. Many influential individuals have worked for or invested in the group, including John Major, former UK Prime Minister; Fidel Ramos, former Philippines President; Park Tae Joon, former South Korean Prime Minister; Saudi Prince Al-Walid; Colin Powell, former Secretary of State; James Baker III, former Secretary of State; Caspar Weinberger, former Defense Secretary; Richard Darman, former White House Budget Director; the billionaire George Soros; bin Laden family members; Alice Albright, daughter of Madeleine Albright, former Secretary of State; Arthur Lewitt, former SEC head; William Kennard, former head of the FCC; Karl Otto Pöhl, former Bundesbank president; Henri Martre, former president of Aerospatiale; and Bilderberg steering committee member Etienne Davignon.

Key conclusion/question #6: key individuals at Dominion are connected with Carlyle Group whose influential investors and employees are members of the swamp that Washington D.C. has been sinking into for over 30 years.

lotsa big money swashing around this, is anyone surprised (aside from the aussies who dont believe anything unless its curated by the mega corporations first :lol: )

[lost in melb.]

:lol: you've already lost, you just arent able to perceive it yet. the systemic disaster has been ongoing for 40-50+ years.

but this humiliation you're talking about :lol: nah, only the poor brainwashed who harp on every word of the traitor media believe anything Trump has done has been humiliating for America

Ok, back to your conspiracy stuff. When in doubt!

Why do you think Giuliani made the statement that she was not actually on their team? What prompted him to say that?

[lost in melb.]

Let's move on to the substance of why this hubbub with Sidney Powell happened at this time instead of the MSM idiocy that we know will be there until the last of the traitors are put in jail.



https://gnews.org/577635/


The link Between Dominion, Sequoia, Smartmatic, and the CCP


Powell shared this link and was immediately suspended by twitter

Ahh, so you actually share her beliefs? The accusations without any evidence that got her booted off the team?

[FBD]

Ahh, so you actually share her beliefs? The accusations without any evidence that got her booted off the team?

there's evidence, we have it, and she wasnt booted from anything :point:

[lost in melb.]

there's evidence, we have it, and she wasnt booted from anything :point:

Oh good! look forward to seeing that evidence and absolutely looking forward to seeing Powell standing alongside Guiliani at the next conference (with the team that she was never part of) :thumbsup:

[lost in melb.]

I'm an idiot. What am I even doing arguing with you :|

[FBD]

I'm an idiot. What am I even doing arguing with you :|

yes, maybe it'll be easier for you to just watch to boob tube until the record scratches :lol:

[Griffin]

Since when has it become common practice to show your evidence to the media before it is presented in court?

...What's that. It isn't. That's what I thought.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Biden has announced that John Kerry is going to be his "special presidential envoy for climate" :roll:

[DemonGeminiX]

Biden has announced that John Kerry is going to be his "special presidential envoy for climate" :roll:

John Kerry? What the hell has he done for the climate?

[Teh One Who Knocks]

John Kerry? What the hell has he done for the climate?

He's full of hot air, that's about it.

[FBD]

Biden has announced that John Kerry is going to be his "special presidential envoy for climate" :roll:

:point: about as real as the office of the president elect :lol:

[FBD]

its not like it hasnt been known for quite a while

https://youtu.be/-s9PkuiIw2Q

Diebold Election Systems, Inc
>acquired by Dominion Voting Systems in 2010
and Sequoia Voting Systems
>acquired by Dominion Voting Systems in 2010
both used to be controversial before media takeover


https://i.imgur.com/xAi5cVe.jpg

[FBD]

https://i.imgur.com/VwwQ6gg.jpg

>outright broke the law by mixing votes that were supposed to be segregated including late accepted votes(only thousands) and unsigned mail in ballots(could number in the hundreds of thousands)
>declare the votes that were to be segregated wont be counted
>order them to provide evidence of how many and what ballots were mixed in so they dont have to remove too many votes
>can only prove that they intentionally destroyed any and all evidence of which were not valid in an attempt to mix them in with valid votes
>vitiates.jpg


flashback!
https://buffalochronicle.com/2020/11/14/exclusive-how-a-philly-mob-boss-stole-the-election-and-why-he-may-flip-on-joe-biden/

[FBD]

https://mobile.twitter.com/hppyjesusfreak/status/1330786115830247425

[FBD]

michigan hearings.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDuQquoM4sQ&feature=emb_title

this lady just admitted that they did not follow the law regarding observers, lol...Poll worker admitting on stream that she counted "No party affiliation" as "Republican" to fill her quotas. :lol:
https://vimeo.com/482787447

IT guy confirms ethernet and connected to internet icons
Man comes on
>gives specific evidence of chain of custody breach
>asserts certification cannot be given because the purpose is to maintain integrity of custody
woman after woman
>lay foundation of 'hard work' done by volunteers
>lay foundation of social visibility of process
>assert emotional argument that certification must take place, or it will hurt people's feelings, and in turn have social consequences for the decision makers

man, this hearing is wack

[FBD]

apparently the MSM has decided that its a good tactic to try and confuse people by conflating the words recount and audit

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-campaign-asks-another-georgia-recount-n1248538

the big difference is that an audit is going to examine the validity of the ballots, whereas these idiots in GA rushed super quick to recount what they had and called it good.

[FBD]

Roger Stone makes an assertion

https://nationalfile.com/roger-stone-bill-gates-microsoft-designed-election-fraud-software-used-by-dominion/

Bill Gates, Microsoft Designed Election Fraud Software Used By Dominion

"100% of the voting machines and voting systems in this country are using the same software that Dominion has been using to switch votes," said Stone.

Roger Stone, the longtime political veteran who has been identified as one of the progenitors of the Stop the Steal movement for election integrity in the United States, released a video explaining that he has evidence Microsoft, at the direction of Bill Gates, designed the vote counting software used to commit election fraud by Dominion Voting Systems and competing companies.

Stone explained that Microsoft, at Gates’ instruction, “designed a software called Election Guard” that has “been used by Dominion, as well as Election Services, Hurt Intercivic, Clean Ballot, Election Systems and Hardware, BPro, and SmartMatic.”

“In other words, 100% of the voting machines and voting systems in this country are using the same software that Dominion has been using to switch votes,” said Stone.

https://twitter.com/EnriqueAleTV/status/1330255407630200835

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Sweet hair plugs

[FBD]

hah, Michigan "certified" 3-0


today's word of the day, kiddies, is


vi·ti·ate
/ˈviSHēˌāt/
Learn to pronounce
verbformal
verb: vitiate; 3rd person present: vitiates; past tense: vitiated; past participle: vitiated; gerund or present participle: vitiating

spoil or impair the quality or efficiency of.
"development programs have been vitiated by the rise in population"
destroy or impair the legal validity of.
"the insurance is vitiated because of foolish acts on the part of the tenant"

[The Monk]

Why am I not shocked to come here and find you spouting the latest conspiracy theories put forth by the idiot box? Sidney Powell was never hired by Trump, he never gave her a retainer or anything. She's Michael Flynn's lawyer, maybe you remember who Michael Flynn is? The idiots on the idiot box are who made the assertion that "Powell was Trump's lawyer" so here we are yet again with you being led around by the nose with conspiracy theories generated by the mega corporations :lol:


But he has acknowledged her as part of a team!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EndjYKfXcAEF9dQ?format=jpg&name=large

[The Monk]

:lol: you've already lost, you just arent able to perceive it yet. the systemic disaster has been ongoing for 40-50+ years.

but this humiliation you're talking about :lol: nah, only the poor brainwashed who harp on every word of the traitor media believe anything Trump has done has been humiliating for America

https://i.imgur.com/WZp9QV5.jpg

[Griffin]

The dems have been behind for several years, why would they recognize a flanking maneuver now.

[lost in melb.]

But he has acknowledged her as part of a team!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EndjYKfXcAEF9dQ?format=jpg&name=large

The Lord himself could not have provided better entertainment :razz:

[lost in melb.]

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1330301180111675399

[lost in melb.]

Good boy

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331013908971261953

[The Monk]

Transition being instigated from Trump.

I sincerely hope that FBD can survive now that it has all been shown that his hopes have been somewhat like catching a unicorn.....

[perrhaps]

He couldn't do it without Congress.

In 2016, he campaigned with the promise that he had a really, really great plan that was very, very cheap ready to go on day one if he was elected. Still waiting to see it 4+ years later.

Lest we forget, the GOP controlled both the House and the Senate until January 2019.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

By Ryan Saavedra - The Daily Wire


https://i.imgur.com/luofMzIl.jpg

Conservative radio icon Rush Limbaugh called out the unproven “bombshell” claims that were made by members of President Donald Trump’s legal team last week, saying that they did not back up their “blockbuster” claims.

Limbaugh started off by addressing the recent announcement by Trump’s legal team in which they distanced themselves from attorney Sidney Powell.

“It’s a tough thing to deny she was ever a part of it because they introduced her as part of it,” Limbaugh said. “She was at that press conference last week.”

Limbaugh then moved on to addressing the substance of the press conference, saying, “You call a gigantic press conference like that, one that lasts an hour and you announce massive bombshells, then you better have some bombshells, there better be something at that press conference other than what we got.”

“But you don’t — you can’t — I talked to so many people who were blown away by it, by the very nature of the press conference,” Limbaugh continued. “They promised blockbuster stuff, and then nothing happened. And that’s just, that’s not — well, it’s not good.”

“If you’re going to promise blockbuster stuff like that, then there has — now, I understand,” Limbaugh added. “Look, I’m the one that’s been telling everybody, this stuff doesn’t happen at warp speed, light speed, the way cases are made for presentation in court. But if you’re going to do a press conference like that, with the promise of blockbusters, then — then there has to be something more than what that press conference delivered.”

Fox News host Tucker Carlson also called out aspects of the press conference last week, saying that the only thing that matters is the truth because “it’s our best defense.”

Powell continued to made serious and unproven allegations following the press conference, including the following statements that she made during an interview on Newsmax TV over the weekend:


POWELL: Georgia’s probably gonna be the first state I’m gonna blow up. And Mr. Kemp and the secretary of state need to go with it because they’re in on the Dominion scam with their last-minute purchase, or award of a contract to Dominion of $100 million. The state bureau of investigation for Georgia ought to be looking into the financial benefits received by Mr. Kemp and the secretary of state’s family about that time …

NEWSMAX: Just to clarify, you’re saying that Governor Kemp, who’s been a longtime ally of the president, is directly involved because of financial benefit in a conspiracy to defeat the president in Georgia?

POWELL: We have certainly been told that there is evidence of that, and would warrant an investigation if anybody were actually going to do an honest investigation.

NEWSMAX: What more could you tell us about that alleged conspiracy — [as] the governor’s [involvement]?

POWELL: I can’t give you any more details than that now, but it would certainly warrant an investigation. If it had been reported to me as a law enforcement officer, I would be investigating it steadfastly.

Trump’s legal team released a statement on Sunday, writing: “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.”

[FBD]

Transition being instigated from Trump.

I sincerely hope that FBD can survive now that it has all been shown that his hopes have been somewhat like catching a unicorn.....

:rofl: we're seeing tactics employed here to catch criminals, my dear lad! Imagine not knowing that this here is more 64d chess :point:

more changes that were made months and months back coming to play themselves out and once again a trap is revealed.

https://i.imgur.com/KaWA8Eh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xpNcEK8.jpg

Go ahead corn pop, name everyone in your transition team - so far its shaping up to be a list for gitmo :lol:

Note everyone's words about following the letter of the law, you can see it in the letter that the GSA lady sent to Biden, you can see it in Trump's advice to her to do what the law prescribes. Now follow the letter of the law and name all of your foreign lobbying interests into your team, Biden :lol:

[FBD]

https://twitter.com/Rothbard1776/status/1331107771018842114


BREAKING: Patrick Byrne, PhD & Founder of http://Overstock.com, says that based on what he’s seen, forensically, he is “100% confident” that the election was rigged. States that he’s had the evidence for 15-16 days. “I could get in front a judge, and if I could bring a couple of hackers & explain things in my own language, there is no honest judge in America who wouldn’t get it. It’s open & shut. We have a bunch of retired law enforcement, military intelligence & other forms of intelligence ... we even have retired judges advising.”


Oh, and this "team" semantics....you're damned right Sidney Powell is "on our team" as in "on our side"

and just who do you think it is that's going to be prosecuting in Gitmo, anyway :lol: :lmao: :rofl: they're going to have to be well versed on this treason, wouldnt you think? :wave:

[Muddy]

By Ryan Saavedra - The Daily Wire

Conservative radio icon Rush Limbaugh called out the unproven “bombshell” claims that were made by members of President Donald Trump’s legal team last week, saying that they did not back up their “blockbuster” claims.



They should have presented some of FBD's riveting evidence..

[FBD]

https://conservativechoicecampaign.com/huge-dominion-voting-system-patents-given-to-china-bank-hsbc-as-collateral-in-2019-hsbc-received-ownership-of-patents-to-intellectual-property-of-elections-ballots-systems-cyber-internet-capa/

DOMINION VOTING SYSTEM PATENTS GIVEN TO CHINA BANK (HSBC) AS COLLATERAL IN 2019. HSBC received ownership of patents to intellectual property of elections, ballots, systems, cyber & internet capacities.

https://assignment.uspto.gov/patent/index.html#/patent/search/resultAssignor?assignorName=DOMINION%20VOTING%20SY STEMS%20CORPORATION

------------------

HSBC, eh? You mean the same HSBC that got a slap on the wrist with a wet noodle when they were caught laundering drug cartel money? The same HSBC where James Comey worked (worked, lol, as if being on the board of directors is work) up until Obama tapped him on the shoulder to head the FBI? Color me shocked!

[FBD]

They should have presented some of FBD's riveting evidence..

Its difficult to figure out what aspect of all of this they are even talking about, because there are so many. Is he referring only to Dominion and the vote switching? I mean if so we've got shots of CNN Live where 100k disappear from Trump and appear for Biden. But the stuff that's yet to go before a judge...lol....wtf is everyone thinking, that process is going to get tossed out the window here?

You've got to remember that this operation is part cleanup op - so the intent is to let bad actors do what they're gonna do and then fuggin arrest them for it. They've displayed this over and over again, and at this point, I wouldnt be surprised if they let this lag all the way out to January 20th so that we can see what pack of traitors Biden will have assembled to try to physically remove Trump from office and Trump will be doing an AF1 flyby with his middle finger out the window as mil spec ops takes over on the ground.

[Muddy]

You've got to remember that this operation is part cleanup op - so the intent is to let bad actors do what they're gonna do and then fuggin arrest them for it.

https://i.imgur.com/SN6Ze9a.jpg

[FBD]

let's color your hair and put you under some heat lamps and see how you do :lol:

[FBD]

https://i.imgur.com/NzcBQvt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/o5bABei.png
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/slow-leak-text-messages-cast-doubt-on-georgia-officials-burst-pipe-excuse-for-pause-in-counting/news-story/19176f5113512210517c82debe684392

No pictures, no video, no work order, no plumbers, no maintenance records, no phone calls. then on top of that it magically fixes itself at 3 a.m. when democrats are ready to put the fix in while no one is watching.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.283580/gov.uscourts.gand.283580.55.1.pdf
Subpoenas have been filed and served.
Filed yesterday

[Muddy]

:fbd:

[FBD]

:fbd:

just giving yall the news since everyone's sources cover about 40% at best :lol:

I remind you of these "little" things that will turn out to be absolutely fuggin huge things ;)

https://dcdirtylaundry.com/bombshell-the-2020-election-took-place-under-a-trump-declared-national-emergency-that-set-an-election-day-trap-for-the-unauthorized-accessing-of-election-and-campaign-infra/

The 2020 election took place under a Trump-declared “National Emergency” that set an Election Day trap for the “unauthorized accessing of election and campaign infrastructure”



https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/

[Muddy]

Like I said, Bud.. The world needs guys like you.. It helps keep people honest.

[lost in melb.]

Even if you slightly overshoot sometimes :rolleyes:

[Griffin]

just giving yall the news since everyone's sources cover about 40% at best :lol:

I remind you of these "little" things that will turn out to be absolutely fuggin huge things ;)

https://dcdirtylaundry.com/bombshell-the-2020-election-took-place-under-a-trump-declared-national-emergency-that-set-an-election-day-trap-for-the-unauthorized-accessing-of-election-and-campaign-infra/

The 2020 election took place under a Trump-declared “National Emergency” that set an Election Day trap for the “unauthorized accessing of election and campaign infrastructure”



https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/

Trump kept handing out rope and the idiots ran straight to the gallows.

[FBD]

https://i.imgur.com/ihe1K6d.png

[FBD]

https://i.imgur.com/k4gZ6xS.jpg

[FBD]

Some of you may be wondering why the contents on Hunter's laptop just got leaked. Well, Section 6 included on the GSA letter forces Biden to disclose conflicts of interest with himself and his team. So basically, Trump has just cornered Biden using the laptop from hell + Section 6. Checkmate bitch.

https://thedonald.win/p/11QRyKes4Z/some-of-you-may-be-wondering-why/c/



> Section 6's conflict of interest reporting enables Trump to do what the MSM won't. You gotta love the dates on the law. Presidential Transition Enhancement Act of 2019 Public Law 116-121 March 3, 2020 Right after impeachment, just at the beginning of Covid. Outstanding move!

> Combine this Transition Enhancement Act of 2019 with the National Emergency regarding foreign interference with our election infrastructure. Biden/Harris have to report their conflicts, per Section 6. Ratcliffe writes his report per the Executive Order.


Lmao and Biden literally had some spook admiral who was on the board of directors for smartmatic, a company created by the CIA to rig elections in venezuela....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_V._Neffenger
>Neffenger has become a distinguished fellow at both the Atlantic Council’s Adrienne Arsht Center for Resilience[8] and Northeastern University's Global Resilience Institute
>In November 2020, Neffenger was named a volunteer member of the Joe Biden presidential transition Agency Review Team to support transition efforts related to the Department of Homeland Security
>Neffenger is Chairman of the Board of Directors of Smartmatic, a multinational company that specializes in building and implementing electronic voting systems


That GSA transition just got issued. That was what was needed to force Biden/Harris to admit these conflicts of interest and it is now law that it stops this transition granted by the GSA.


The laptop has tons of PDFs and documents in it linking the Biden’s to China etc. He doesn’t have to decide whether or not he wants to admit it, it’s already out there.


Laptop data

https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fia601507.us.archive.org% 2Fview_archive.php%3Farchive%3D%2F8%2Fitems%2Fhb-docs%2FHB_DOCS.zip
https://i.imgur.com/31SuWDp.jpg

I should have made my bet with Lost have "Trump is a tactical genius" in his title for when he loses the bet :lol:

think of that in relation to this article from october:

https://pjmedia.com/election/bryan-preston/2020/10/22/bombshell-hunter-biden-email-names-sen-kamala-harris-others-as-key-contacts-for-joint-venture-with-china-belt-and-road-company-n1077890
Hunter Biden Email Names Kamala Harris, Others as Key Contacts for 'Joint Venture' With China Energy Co.

[FBD]

In 2016, he campaigned with the promise that he had a really, really great plan that was very, very cheap ready to go on day one if he was elected. Still waiting to see it 4+ years later.

Lest we forget, the GOP controlled both the House and the Senate until January 2019.

Paul Ryan is a paid off traitor

[FBD]

Judge Emmet Sullivan should be headed for federal prison for his role in the attacks against General Flynn

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/judge-emmet-sullivan-will-oversee-voting-rights-act-case-accusing-trump-of-anti-black-campaign-to-overturn-election/

Judge Emmet Sullivan Will Oversee Voting Rights Act Case Accusing Trump of Anti-Black Campaign to Overturn Election
Colin KalmbacherNov 24th, 2020, 12:53 pm


(I am forced to hear the quote about never going full retard echoing in my head :lol: peak clown world)


where else has the deep state leaned on sullivan....oh yeah, in alaska with the Stevens bullshit
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/27/AR2010092706613.html

[Muddy]

It's over, FBD... Time to take some reality pills and go nighty night. Dream of better days where you and Trump are riding a horse together, shirtless, across Russia, peeing on all the Globalists and Banksters..

[DemonGeminiX]

In 2016, he campaigned with the promise that he had a really, really great plan that was very, very cheap ready to go on day one if he was elected. Still waiting to see it 4+ years later.

Lest we forget, the GOP controlled both the House and the Senate until January 2019.

And that's why the GOP lost the House in 2018. Like I said, he couldn't do it without Congress. The Republican-controlled Congress wouldn't act, so it didn't get done. You know how it works: Congress writes the bills and the President either passes them or vetoes them. The President could be involved in the writing of a bill if his party controls Congress and they wish to write the bill. They didn't write the bill, and it didn't get done.

[perrhaps]

And that's why the GOP lost the House in 2018. Like I said, he couldn't do it without Congress. The Republican-controlled Congress wouldn't act, so it didn't get done. You know how it works: Congress writes the bills and the President either passes them or vetoes them. The President could be involved in the writing of a bill if his party controls Congress and they wish to write the bill. They didn't write the bill, and it didn't get done.

And he never publicly presented his proposed Bill, and he still hasn't, despite promises he made to do so in the 2020 campaign. Face it, he ain't shy about pressuring other GOPers to do his bidding (for example his Border Wall).

[DemonGeminiX]

And he never publicly presented his proposed Bill, and he still hasn't, despite promises he made to do so in the 2020 campaign. Face it, he ain't shy about pressuring other GOPers to do his bidding (for example his Border Wall).

Wow, you make him sound like a... a... a POLITICIAN!!!! :omfg:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

By Edmund DeMarche | Fox News


Attorney Sidney Powell took to Twitter Tuesday night to post an open letter to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to request the Zoom meeting where state officials decided not to “perform a real audit” during the election recount.

Powell, who said recently that she is not working directly with President Trump’s legal team in its effort to prove widespread voter fraud and instead representing “WeThePeople,” has been critical of Georgia’s Gov. Brian Kemp and Raffensperger, both Republicans.

She told Fox Business’ Lou Dobbs Tuesday that she expects to file a lawsuit Wednesday and described it as a “massive document.”
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“The defendants are going to be folks in Georgia who are responsible for, supposedly, making sure that the elections in Georgia are done properly,” she said. “And there are just countless incidents of voter fraud and election fraud writ large in Georgia.”

She said she expects to roll out additional suits.

Powell’s tweet to Raffensperger read, “Please consider this an open records act request for the #Zoom meeting of today’s date with electors & your refusal to perform a real audit to include envelopes & all documents required. #Trumplandslide.”

Neither Powell nor Raffensperger responded to an email from Fox News.

Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, both Georgia Republicans, backed the president's signature-matching demands on Sunday and earlier in the week called for the resignation of Raffensperger in a joint statement. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., supported more signature-matching on Monday.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that the Trump campaign and state Republicans called for an audit of the vote in addition to the recount to essentially “double-check the signature matching efforts of local election workers.”

The Trump team has questioned the validity of absentee ballots on the state that helped propel Joe Biden to a 12,670 vote victory in the Peach State, where 5 million ballots were cast.

Gabriel Sterling, the manager of the state’s voting system, told the paper that such an audit is possible, but “we can’t open investigations based on generalized, ‘we’re not happy with the outcome ‘” of the election.

The Ledger-Enquirer reported that under the state’s law, signatures on absentee ballots are checked twice, but once counted, they cannot be traced back to their envelopes.

The paper reported that the envelopes are held for two years and the state received an approximately 350% increase in 2020 compared to 2018.

Powell told Dobbs in an interview last month that she was getting ready to “release the kracken,” a reference to a Scandinavian sea monster that made it seem to some that a tidal wave of evidence was on the horizon. But even some supporters of Trump's legal challenge seem to be growing impatient while waiting for a smoking gun that proves widespread voter fraud.

Critics of the president say these lawsuits are just delaying the inevitable and his refusal to concede is hurting the transition.

Powell insisted that it is “clear that there was foreign intrusion into our voting systems and that will be where the rubber meets the road.”

Dobbs asked her about some important dates that are approaching, including Dec. 8, the deadline for resolving election disputes at the state level. (All state recounts and court contests over presidential election results are to be completed by this date.)

“Yes, the timing deadlines should be able to be met,” she said. “The evidence is so overwhelming it’s almost as though they were blatant about it. They expected us to catch it, maybe it’s a diversion from something else that is going on, I don’t know.”

Trump’s legal team has suffered a string of losses in lower courts and what some saw as a brief public relations hiccup on Sunday when it distanced itself from Powell, a former federal prosecutor, who represented Gen. Michael Flynn in his case.

Rudy Giuliani, one of Trump's lawyers, told Fox Business on Monday night that these legal setbacks will eventually turn around. He said the court in Pennsylvania didn't listen to a "single fact."

Fox News' Tyler Olsen and the Associated Press contributed to this report

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[Griffin]

By Edmund DeMarche | Fox News

She told Fox Business’ Lou Dobbs Tuesday that she expects to file a lawsuit Wednesday and described it as a “massive document.”
“The defendants are going to be folks in Georgia who are responsible for, supposedly, making sure that the elections in Georgia are done properly,” she said. “And there are just countless incidents of voter fraud and election fraud writ large in Georgia.”

She said she expects to roll out additional suits.



She also claimed to have poof that when the Arizona polls opened, everyone running as democrat started with 35,000 votes. "Like getting 500 dollars at the beginning of a Monopoly game."

[Muddy]

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What in gods name is the meaning of this? :lol:

[lost in melb.]

What in gods name is the meaning of this? :lol:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsbreak.com/amp/new-york/new-york/news/2102638520909/release-the-kraken-sidney-powell-vows-to-expose-who-is-behind-stealing-the-election

:)

[Griffin]

When she said "Release the Kraken!", she was letting the perpetrators know she had their plans.
That was the dominion code sent out to spike the Biden counts in the middle of the night.

[FBD]

It's over, FBD... Time to take some reality pills and go nighty night. Dream of better days where you and Trump are riding a horse together, shirtless, across Russia, peeing on all the Globalists and Banksters..

:lmao: It is most certainly not over, brotha. I only regret that you had too much vcash to make it properly humiliating :dance:

https://i.imgur.com/QZI8S9I.jpg

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Release the Kraken!!!!

























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[Griffin]

Yepp! That's what the dems did. Wiped their ass on America.

[FBD]

https://i.imgur.com/bbRf8qr.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3YDI9jH.jpg

[FBD]

https://i.imgur.com/JDsbuRN.png

now let's look at what absolute morons write:

https://i.imgur.com/XsNKHYD.jpg

and now let's reconcile that with actual verbiage quoted by another brainlet who cant figure out what words mean

https://i.imgur.com/sAf0XGO.jpg

this is absolutely surreal, these people :lol: compromised, or stupid? which is it?

[lost in melb.]

Yepp! That's what the dems did. Wiped their ass on America.

How so?

[FBD]

https://i.imgur.com/GLUvyo1.png


This case is about the expansion of mail-in voting with Act 77. The Pennsylvania State constitution imposes strict limits on absentee voting. To amend the state constitution, the measure has to be passed by two legislative sessions and then approved by the people in a referendum.

Act 77 was just a regular bill, not a constitutional amendment. Which makes it null and void as law. The mail-in voting from this election was totally illegal.

[FBD]

How so?

its called cheating, brah!

[FBD]

this will wind up playing into things

https://i.imgur.com/2fEdcAt.png

[Griffin]

its called cheating, brah!

He knows what I was talking about. He's just being obtuse. So I'll just stay out of these discussions until the evidence is allowed to be presented to a court not just media bias.

[FBD]

Lin Wood seems to think that the entire point of this blatant election fraud was to piss people off and cause a civil war

https://i.imgur.com/hrO6pnQ.png

I dont disagree that fracturing and balkanizing the USA could would likely be part of the globalist plan, its certainly an option in their playbook

[FBD]

He knows what I was talking about. He's just being obtuse. So I'll just stay out of these discussions until the evidence is allowed to be presented to a court not just media bias.

I think its disappointing that people get to this point, but I can understand the sentiment. However this goes down its going to be popcorn worthy, and we will win. They've had 4 years and a copy of the enemy's playbook, I'm really not worried about the minutiae.

[FBD]

:fbd:

https://i.imgur.com/k8bohhY.png

[lost in melb.]

He knows what I was talking about. He's just being obtuse. So I'll just stay out of these discussions until the evidence is allowed to be presented to a court not just media bias.

As said a million times a bunch of screenshots and people talking in videos isn't evidence. I don't believe you will ever change your mind even if and when the next round of 'court cases' fail. Almost December now and even Trump's moving on. Hope you find a new hero.

[FBD]

As said a million times a bunch of screenshots and people talking in videos isn't evidence. I don't believe you will ever change your mind even if and when the next round of 'court cases' fail. Almost December now and even Trump's moving on. Hope you find a new hero.

https://i.imgur.com/CT6myCN.mp4

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https://i.imgur.com/CT6myCN.mp4

QAnon sure gets you a lot of attention and it's fun too isn't it?

[FBD]

QAnon sure gets you a lot of attention and it's fun too isn't it?

you've been presented with things like screen shots of actual affidavits, which are real evidence. I dont know what you're on about, you either dont read or automatically disbelieve everything I post on this subject.

but that's why you'll get no return on your bet :razz:

[lost in melb.]

Back lash begins!

After losing 35 lawsuits, now the Trump campaign is getting a taste of being on the other end of this, as they're being sued for violating the Voting Rights Act of 1965, in their attempts to disenfranchise particularly black voters in Wayne county.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-campaign-sued-for-attempting-to-disenfranchise-black-voters-100000739.html

[lost in melb.]

you've been presented with things like screen shots of actual affidavits, which are real evidence. I dont know what you're on about, you either dont read or automatically disbelieve everything I post on this subject.

but that's why you'll get no return on your bet :razz:

I don't have time to read it all. It's your motivation that's the problem mate. It's not about truth it's about, quite frankly, escape from reality.

[Muddy]

I don't have time to read it all. It's your motivation that's the problem mate. It's not about truth it's about, quite frankly, escape from reality.

Well, in his defense, he is being fed a bunch of material..

[FBD]

I don't have time to read it all. It's your motivation that's the problem mate. It's not about truth it's about, quite frankly, escape from reality.

why is it that every time you're backed into a corner your defense is "I simply dont have time to read all of this" :lol: every time there is information that blows your contentions up, you resort to not having the time to consume the information, its really a pithy excuse. you dont believe it all the way up until the point where you're wrong again and then out come the excuses.

my motivation is the truth, and its coming for your worldview :razz:

[FBD]

Well, in his defense, he is being fed a bunch of material..

in my defense, I parse a lot of information, and that which I decide is noteworthy, I come mention to you guys so that you can actually have some real news instead of whatever the corporate overlords decide is appropriate for you to consume

[The Monk]

you've been presented with things like screen shots of actual affidavits, which are real evidence. I dont know what you're on about, you either dont read or automatically disbelieve everything I post on this subject.

but that's why you'll get no return on your bet :razz:


I saw an "opinion" piece video that showed a website where people were invited to lodge complaints about the election..... "captcha" etc .. to prove they were not bots. However when confronted with appearing in court to back their claims under threat of perjury, the allegations were withdrawn. How low can you go when this is the way to try and usurp democracy?

[The Monk]

List of conspiracy theories promoted by Donald Trump (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories_promoted_by_Donald_Tru mp)


Conspiracy theories
Alleged actions by Muslims as claimed by Britain First
Belief that vaccines cause autism
Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory
Barack Obama birther conspiracy theories
Central Park Five
Climate change denial
Clinton Body Count
Conspiracy theories related to the Trump–Ukraine scandal
COVID-19 conspiracy theories
Deep state in the United States
Epstein didn't kill himself
Suicide of Vince Foster
Global warming conspiracy theory
Hurricane Maria death toll controversy
Joe Scarborough murder conspiracy
QAnon
Murder of Seth Rich
Obamagate – term ascribed in May 2020 to nebulous claims concerning the case of Michael Flynn and alleged unauthorized surveillance of Flynn and others.
Osama bin Laden death conspiracy theories
Russia investigation origins counter-narrative
Spygate
Stop the Steal
Syrian refugee as ISIS members conspiracy
Trump Tower wiretapping allegations
Voter impersonation
White genocide and Great Replacement conspiracy theories
Wind turbines cause cancer



: Wikipedia




Also: FactCheck/ (https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trumps-long-history-with-conspiracy-theories/)

[Griffin]

The look on this punks face as Lou Dobbs spanks him at the end. :thumbsup:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9RxX2hrtfQ&feature=emb_logo

[The Monk]

.




“This isn’t about winning the presidency,” former Trump publicist Alan Marcus told me this week. “It’s his exit strategy.”


“It’s not about the vote-counting,” said Rory Cooper, a Republican strategist and a former adviser to Eric Cantor when he was the House Majority Leader. “His entire persona is built on the idea of winning despite his decades of not winning. He’s constantly creating a legend, frankly, about himself rather than a truthful narrative, so I’m not surprised that he’s going to use this to convince his supporters that the election was unfair and that he remains the leader of the Republican opposition.” (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/11/13/trumps-crazy-and-confoundingly-successful-conspiracy-theory-436404)

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DonaldJTrump2024.com

[lost in melb.]

The look on this punks face as Lou Dobbs spanks him at the end. :thumbsup:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9RxX2hrtfQ&feature=emb_logo

Not a court or legal proceeding. Lol. So not of consequence to anything...

[lost in melb.]

So afraid of a court of law, Trump and his cronies...I'm sure they'll be seeing plenty of them after Jan 20th!

[The Monk]

President pranked as comedians snap up Trump 2024 domain (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/25/trump-2024-president-reelection-bid-domain)


https://i.imgur.com/zoToYbt.jpg

[The Monk]

Try this...... -http://loser.com-

[lost in melb.]

Looky, looky, looky what I found The Monk


https://i.ibb.co/7SHVDJd/trump-2012-a.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/t4WknGz/trump-2012-b.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/CzpD9s5/trump-2012-c.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/jbrBx8L/trump-2016-iowa.png (https://ibb.co/xX7Pc2M)
https://i.ibb.co/MSSdxND/trump-2016-fraud.png (https://ibb.co/xLLZt5S)

[perrhaps]

Wow, you make him sound like a... a... a POLITICIAN!!!! :omfg:

Yup. Just another LIAR.

[FBD]

I saw an "opinion" piece video that showed a website where people were invited to lodge complaints about the election..... "captcha" etc .. to prove they were not bots. However when confronted with appearing in court to back their claims under threat of perjury, the allegations were withdrawn. How low can you go when this is the way to try and usurp democracy?

:lol: are you even for real? sure maybe this happened in an instance, but to put this forth as the only or even prime example when there's shit tons of others....just goes to show how absolutely intellectually dishonest leftists are. how do you even live going by just a preferred slice of reality and ignoring the rest?

I mean, really. I'm only forced to conclude that you are intellectually dishonest.

see this? say it with me. EV-I-DENCE

https://i.imgur.com/oKl6Cmj.jpg


>Dr. Keshavarz-Nia is a vice president and senior director in INFOSEC with 30 years of experience in national security spanning leadership and program execution supporting the civilian, Defense, US Intelligence Agency (USIA), and commercial banking organizations. His background extends in cyber security engineering, technical counterintelligence and incident response management. He is an innovator and has implemented next generation security solutions across the IC, defense, and civilian clients. He has engineered technical solutions and managed large development teams involving security risk assessment, insider threat, incident response, and threat hunting exercises to identify advanced persistent threats. He is an experienced ethical hacker, big data architect and cloud security expert in cloud computing, Blockchain technology, and big data analytic solutions. He has led or supported the CIA, NSA, DHS US-CERT, USCYBERCOM and the FBI.

not enough? here's more

https://i.imgur.com/vSXIWC5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dZJxo8f.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N0lNWcA.jpg

still not enough? there's a thousand other examples for you to deny to existence and or veracity of :rofl: its just sad that you're going this route and making an ass of yourself.


have you even heard the name eric coomer yet :lol: we've got evidence there, too!
https://i.imgur.com/0yQsg1e.jpg
https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf


>Sworn affidavits of people telling you fraud happened
>Physical servers with the election data on them seized from another country using software written also from another country
>Video evidence of multiple cases where fraud was taking place in plain sight
>Poll workers/People gloating about fraud on social media, all towards one candidate only
>Other "unapproved" poll workers not even being allowed to view, or only being allowed to view from so far away its useless
>Statistical analysis by multiple certified mathematicians, that have seen rigged elections before, saying our election was rigged and fraud occurred
b-b-b-but you have no evidence! :rofl:


and BTW, we do not have Democracy here, we have a Republic, which means the mob cant arbitrarily change the rules as it pleases. The only thing we have resembling a Democracy is the legislative democracy in Congress.

[lost in melb.]

:lol: are you even for real? sure maybe this happened in an instance, but to put this forth as the only or even prime example when there's shit tons of others....just goes to show how absolutely intellectually dishonest leftists are. how do you even live going by just a preferred slice of reality and ignoring the rest?

I mean, really. I'm only forced to conclude that you are intellectually dishonest.

see this? say it with me. EV-I-DENCE

https://i.imgur.com/oKl6Cmj.jpg



not enough? here's more

https://i.imgur.com/vSXIWC5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dZJxo8f.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N0lNWcA.jpg

still not enough? there's a thousand other examples for you to deny to existence and or veracity of :rofl: its just sad that you're going this route and making an ass of yourself.


have you even heard the name eric coomer yet :lol: we've got evidence there, too!
https://i.imgur.com/0yQsg1e.jpg
https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf


>Sworn affidavits of people telling you fraud happened
>Physical servers with the election data on them seized from another country using software written also from another country
>Video evidence of multiple cases where fraud was taking place in plain sight
>Poll workers/People gloating about fraud on social media, all towards one candidate only
>Other "unapproved" poll workers not even being allowed to view, or only being allowed to view from so far away its useless
>Statistical analysis by multiple certified mathematicians, that have seen rigged elections before, saying our election was rigged and fraud occurred
b-b-b-but you have no evidence! :rofl:


and BTW, we do not have Democracy here, we have a Republic, which means the mob cant arbitrarily change the rules as it pleases. The only thing we have resembling a Democracy is the legislative democracy in Congress.

Again, fantastic!! You really need to get this irrefutable evidence in to Washington somehow. Suggest to grab a couple of 4chaners and a professional looking briefcase, rock up and see how you go!!

[lost in melb.]

He has led or supported the CIA, NSA, DHS US-CERT, USCYBERCOM and the FBI.

:rofl:

[FBD]

Again, fantastic!! You really need to get this irrefutable evidence in to Washington somehow. Suggest to grab a couple of 4chaners and a professional looking briefcase, rock up and see how you go!!

I dont even have to, Rudy is on the ballot fraud and Sidney is on Dominion etc. But you'd know this if you paid attention to real sources of news instead of looking at the propaganda outlets for your opinion ;)

[lost in melb.]

I dont even have to, Rudy is on the ballot fraud and Sidney is on Dominion etc. But you'd know this if you paid attention to real sources of news instead of looking at the propaganda outlets for your opinion ;)

No no, I really think they need you onboard mate. They're really struggling and you seem to know your stuff!!

[FBD]

when you're busted on camera

https://i.imgur.com/nZMJMu5.jpg


no, really, Lost - if the good guys didnt have this covered, the information probably wouldnt even be out there and we'd be prepping for the russians having released covid19 & 20 & 21 on us for the 4th time, so these nukes that president hillary is going to hit russia with are justified - after all, we've always been at war with russia and it will be great for democracy now that the pipeline through syria has been completed after having nuked assad out of office a couple years prior. (arent we all glad we're not on that timeline :lol: )

[FBD]

what else is 45 days out from the election, arent states supposed to have certified by then


Accordingly, I hereby order:

Section 1. (a) Not later than 45 days after the conclusion of a United States election, the Director of National Intelligence, in consultation with the heads of any other appropriate executive departments and agencies (agencies), shall conduct an assessment of any information indicating that a foreign government, or any person acting as an agent of or on behalf of a foreign government, has acted with the intent or purpose of interfering in that election. The assessment shall identify, to the maximum extent ascertainable, the nature of any foreign interference and any methods employed to execute it, the persons involved, and the foreign government or governments that authorized, directed, sponsored, or supported it. The Director of National Intelligence shall deliver this assessment and appropriate supporting information to the President, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Defense, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security.

(b) Within 45 days of receiving the assessment and information described in section 1(a) of this order, the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the heads of any other appropriate agencies and, as appropriate, State and local officials, shall deliver to the President, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of the Treasury, and the Secretary of Defense a report evaluating, with respect to the United States election that is the subject of the assessment described in section 1(a):

(i) the extent to which any foreign interference that targeted election infrastructure materially affected the security or integrity of that infrastructure, the tabulation of votes, or the timely transmission of election results; and

(ii) if any foreign interference involved activities targeting the infrastructure of, or pertaining to, a political organization, campaign, or candidate, the extent to which such activities materially affected the security or integrity of that infrastructure, including by unauthorized access to, disclosure or threatened disclosure of, or alteration or falsification of, information or data.

The report shall identify any material issues of fact with respect to these matters that the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security are unable to evaluate or reach agreement on at the time the report is submitted. The report shall also include updates and recommendations, when appropriate, regarding remedial actions to be taken by the United States Government, other than the sanctions described in sections 2 and 3 of this order.
https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/DCPD-201800593

[FBD]

:lol:

https://twitter.com/BobPersis/status/1331778617400057857

[FBD]

https://i.imgur.com/Kiz8enG.jpg

remember
>Brennan speaks fluent Farsi and converted to islam
>Valerie Jarret's family is Iranian
>Lisa Page's family is Iranian
>Peter Strzok's family is Iranian
(not 100% of their families of course, but still...its like pointing out that Huma's immediate family is muslim brotherhood...)

[The Monk]

I dont even have to, Rudy is on the ballot fraud and Sidney is on Dominion etc. But you'd know this if you paid attention to real sources of news instead of looking at the propaganda outlets for your opinion ;)

Pray tell me..... what are your REAL sources of news -they don't seem to be anything believable judging by your conspiracy theories. Tell me, do you wear a tin foil hat? :lol:

[FBD]

Pray tell me..... what are your REAL sources of news -they don't seem to be anything believable:

this is hilarious, I'm posting screen shots from affidavits, I'm linking news articles and .gov sites, and you're telling me they're not real news and are conspiracy theories that arent believable :rofl:

pray tell, why is it that you have such a difficult time deciphering good information from utter shit? :lol:

[FBD]

https://twitter.com/wizard_predicts/status/1332371161683013632?s=21

[FBD]

here's a whole slew of posts quoting affidavits and yes, real evidence

https://twitter.com/PandaTribune/status/1332169019143704579

[lost in melb.]

Another big one bites the dust...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/27/politics/trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit-appeal/index.html

A panel of 3 judges said, the claims have no merit. They highlighted that when pressured, Trump's lawyers never actually claim fraud or say there are illegal voters. Of course, because lying to a judge in a court of law is a felony and leads to disbarment. So Trump and Giuliani lie at will on Tweeter and ridiculous press conferences but the lawyers never present any proof.

Now the only higher appeal court is the Supreme Court. We'll see if Giuliani takes it there. Even the 6-3 SC should not find for Trump.What the judges wrote:

"The Campaign never alleges that any ballot was fraudulent or cast by an illegal voter," the judges wrote. "It never alleges that any defendant treated the Trump campaign or its votes worse than it treated the Biden campaign or its votes. Calling something discrimination does not make it so. The Second Amended Complaint still suffers from these core defects, so granting leave to amend would have been futile."

"The Campaign's claims have no merit. The number of ballots it specifically challenges is far smaller than the roughly 81,000-vote margin of victory. And it never claims fraud or that any votes were cast by illegal voters. Plus, tossing out millions of mail-in ballots would be drastic and unprecedented, disenfranchising a huge swath of the electorate and upsetting all down-ballot races too. That remedy would be grossly disproportionate to the procedural challenges raised."

[lost in melb.]

Breaking news: Trump's recount in Wisconsin, which he (actually his supporters) paid $3M for, found MORE votes for Biden, increasing Biden's lead! One of the counties, at least. The other one will finish Sunday.

:lol:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/recount-wisconsin-county-demanded-trump-021011966.html

[The Monk]

A difficult time deciphering good information from utter shit? :lol:


The "utter shit" to use your own words, seems to be the stuff you are posting.. :lol:

[The Monk]

Breaking news: Trump's recount in Wisconsin, which he (actually his supporters) paid $3M for, found MORE votes for Biden, increasing Biden's lead! One of the counties, at least. The other one will finish Sunday.

:lol:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/recount-wisconsin-county-demanded-trump-021011966.html



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[The Monk]

:lol: are you even for real? sure maybe this happened in an instance, but to put this forth as the only or even prime example when there's shit tons of others....just goes to show how absolutely intellectually dishonest leftists are. how do you even live going by just a preferred slice of reality and ignoring the rest?

I mean, really. I'm only forced to conclude that you are intellectually dishonest.

see this? say it with me. EV-I-DENCE

https://i.imgur.com/oKl6Cmj.jpg



not enough? here's more

https://i.imgur.com/vSXIWC5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dZJxo8f.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N0lNWcA.jpg

still not enough? there's a thousand other examples for you to deny to existence and or veracity of :rofl: its just sad that you're going this route and making an ass of yourself.


have you even heard the name eric coomer yet :lol: we've got evidence there, too!
https://i.imgur.com/0yQsg1e.jpg
https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf


>Sworn affidavits of people telling you fraud happened
>Physical servers with the election data on them seized from another country using software written also from another country
>Video evidence of multiple cases where fraud was taking place in plain sight
>Poll workers/People gloating about fraud on social media, all towards one candidate only
>Other "unapproved" poll workers not even being allowed to view, or only being allowed to view from so far away its useless
>Statistical analysis by multiple certified mathematicians, that have seen rigged elections before, saying our election was rigged and fraud occurred
b-b-b-but you have no evidence! :rofl:


and BTW, we do not have Democracy here, we have a Republic, which means the mob cant arbitrarily change the rules as it pleases. The only thing we have resembling a Democracy is the legislative democracy in Congress.

"Defending the Republic" - sure. That's totally believable.....



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....another scam to raise money?

[perrhaps]

This has become soooo confusing that I'm starting to think only a Trump University grad can make heads or tails of it.

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Isn't it hilarious how all of these Republican Judges installed by Trump are throwing out his corrupt and baseless court cases. Trump must have thought that he had some kind of "smooth-palm" arrangement :lol:

[FBD]

you guys are hilarious

>read a tiny bit of information, come running here to post the moment some other moron leftie yells "OMGZ DRUMPF BTFO!!!" thinking they've got something that might actually be real
:lol: yes....Yes....YES, get them hopes up, boys!!! :point:

now for more shocking news,
-PA & GA legislature, after being reminded by Rudy that the Legislature is where the electoral power lies - move to reclaim their power from corrupt judges/AG
(another one bites the dust, sorry lost)
https://i.imgur.com/gfCp4BZ.jpg

-if you recount a bunch of fake ballots, you will confirm a fake result
(another one bites the dust, sorry lost)

and now here's the big kicker for you poor uninformed/misinformed
-Regardless of what these States decide, you are forgetting about Dominion and what the result will be from this. Every single place that used Dominion can consider the vote to be null and void. (Yes, that's a large number.) And what will we have after all those votes are tossed aside? We are going to have a 1 state 1 vote election and Biden loses because Trump is way ahead in terms of States that are not absolutely batshit corrupted.
because we literally have Dominion live on Tee Vee committing fraud in PA :haha:
https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1332505963375554560

even cnn has telegraphed this to you because they cant deny the very real possibility
https://i.imgur.com/Uvw0Cs2.jpg


coming in the future, Ezra Cohen Watnick announces the completion of the most sophisticated and extensive USA military operation ever, and begins to explain...


so carp all you want about what the smartesty smartest faggots on the entire leftywebz tell you, as I've already pointed out, the mega corporations are evil and their campaign to confuse and scare people is coming to an end, yall are just too propagandized and brainwashed to believe anything but what the fkn tv tells you :point:

https://i.imgur.com/Gl0Ct5z.gif
there's so much evidence telling you this its not even funny. but dat 'news tho.

(and in case you forgot about how this went last time,)
https://i.imgur.com/GWlw0G1.png

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Republican representative who lost his bid for reelection, says it like it is.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-congressman-calls-partys-refusal-232840903.html

The others are terrified of Trump. They likely know that all that this guy is saying is true, but they don't have the balls to say. Shame.

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Pennsylvania supreme court throws out Republican bid to reject 2.5m mail-in votes


Judge says plaintiff ‘failed to allege that even a single mail-in ballot was fraudulently cast or counted’

:lol:

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/29/pennsylvania-supreme-court-throws-out-republican-bid-to-reject-25m-mail-in-votes

[FBD]

Republican representative who lost his bid for reelection, says it like it is.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-congressman-calls-partys-refusal-232840903.html

The others are terrified of Trump. They likely know that all that this guy is saying is true, but they don't have the balls to say. Shame.
oooo, there's RINOs out there! we've never seen those before! :lol:



Pennsylvania supreme court throws out Republican bid to reject 2.5m mail-in votes


Judge says plaintiff ‘failed to allege that even a single mail-in ballot was fraudulently cast or counted’

:lol:

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/29/pennsylvania-supreme-court-throws-out-republican-bid-to-reject-25m-mail-in-votes

I challenge you to go find all of the false and or misleading statements in this article :lol:

[FBD]

https://www.worldviewweekend.com/tv/video/wvw-tv-exclusive-lt-general-michael-flynns-first-interview-president-trumps-pardon

First half hour is Flynn, second half hour is General Mcinerny

Its good to hear from Flynn, but the things Mcinerny says are far more eye popping, go to about 40 minutes in. 43:15 specifically mentions his intel regarding the US Special forces vs. CIA operation to grab the servers.

5 army dead 1 cia dead - shortly after this raid took place, it was reported that a cia died by IED in Somalia and 5 army died in a heli crash in Egypt, but no mention of why there would have been a pair of miltary warrant officers roaming around bum fuck egypt, there was a serbian mentioned also. Cant really say for 100% sure that this was it, but within realm of possibility. Scorecard developed in Serbia.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/11/14/army-identifies-5-soldiers-killed-in-sinai-uh-60-black-hawk-helicopter-crash/


>Didn’t Wikileaks talk about something like this in Vault 7?
>Yes. 3 Years ago.
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/
https://www.dw.com/en/frankfurt-used-as-remote-hacking-base-for-the-cia-wikileaks/a-37841830

Frankfurt used as remote hacking base for the CIA: WikiLeaks

WikiLeaks documents reveal CIA agents were given cover identities and diplomatic passports to enter the country. The base was used to develop hacking tools as part of the CIA's massive digital arsenal.


WikiLeaks released a trove of CIA documents on Tuesday that it claimed revealed details of its secret hacking arsenal.

The release included 8,761 documents that it claimed revealed details of "malware, viruses, trojans, weaponized 'zero day' exploits, malware remote control systems and associated documentation."

The leaks purportedly revealed that a top secret CIA unit used the German city of Frankfurt am Main as the starting point for numerous hacking attacks on Europe, China and the Middle East.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/839140451856838657




https://i.imgur.com/YLIi2Qf.jpg

The site implied that the Frankfurt data center raid was connected to the closure of an S-Bahn tunnel in Frankfurt:
https://www.hessenschau.de/wirtschaft/wartungsarbeiten-an-frankfurter-s-bahn-tunnel-abgeschlossen,s-bahn-tunnel-frankfurt-gesperrt-100.html

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oooo, there's RINOs out there! we've never seen those before! :lol:




I challenge you to go find all of the false and or misleading statements in this article :lol:
https://i.ibb.co/7vHbKWs/FakeNews.png (https://ibb.co/sjhtqw8)

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ronna-mcdaniel-urges-georgia-republicans-to-vote-in-senate-runoffs-not-lose-your-faith



You sow what you reap republicans!

Constantly spreading conspiracy theories and trying to delegitimize Biden's election has consequences. And the biggest consequence is that Republican voters now believe that their vote is useless.

McDaniel admits that it will be very difficult to mobilize Republicans to elect Perdue and Loeffler.This is called collateral damage.

Trump will really have done a lot of damage before getting the hell out of there. It can only get worse from here...

[FBD]

https://i.ibb.co/7vHbKWs/FakeNews.png (https://ibb.co/sjhtqw8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO5JHUj4aiI

Backward Bill, Backward Bill,
He lives way up on Backward Hill,
Which is really a hole in the sandy ground
(But that's a hill turned upside down).

Backward Bill's got a backward shack
With a big front porch that's built out back.
You walk through the window and look out the door
And the cellar is up on the very top floor.

Backward Bill he rides like the wind
Don't know where he's going but sees where he's been.
His spurs they go "neigh" and his horse it goes "clang,"
And his six-gun goes "gnab," it never goes "bang."

Backward Bill's got a backward pup,
They eat their supper when the sun comes up,
And he's got a wife named Backward Lil,
"She's my own true hate," says Backward Bill.

Backward Bill wears his hat on his toes
And puts on his underwear over his clothes.
And come every payday he pays his boss,
And rides off a-smilin' a-carryin' his hoss.

[FBD]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ronna-mcdaniel-urges-georgia-republicans-to-vote-in-senate-runoffs-not-lose-your-faith



You sow what you reap republicans!

Constantly spreading conspiracy theories and trying to delegitimize Biden's election has consequences. And the biggest consequence is that Republican voters now believe that their vote is useless.

McDaniel admits that it will be very difficult to mobilize Republicans to elect Perdue and Loeffler.This is called collateral damage.

Trump will really have done a lot of damage before getting the hell out of there. It can only get worse from here...

so now that Fox news is telling you what you want to hear, you believe them :lol: :potkettle:

[lost in melb.]

Story of how good republicans have resisted corruption and lies




https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/28/us/politics/trump-republicans-election-results.html

[The Monk]

The latest on US election recounts and court challenges: Wisconsin recount confirms Joe Biden beat Donald Trump (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-30/latest-on-us-election-recounts-and-court-challenges/12933644?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf240535798&utm_campaign=fb_abc_news&utm_source=m.facebook.com&sf240535798=1&fbclid=IwAR07Aev8GrJqYauayCp5y_hGm1LWcaX9pTGfVNepU 1-erbo3PBbJGQYAIcc)

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so now that Fox news is telling you what you want to hear, you believe them :lol: :potkettle:

No, I just thought Fox was lowbrow enough to appeal to you :empathy:

[FBD]

No, I just thought Fox was lowbrow enough to appeal to you :empathy:

:lol: Fox is showing their true bankster colored undies, I followed the money and knew a long time ago (like a great many other things that seem to slip notice around here)

Meanwhile, Joe "slips" and twists his ankle, I mean he sprained his ankle, wait I mean its broken...

and he's just got a wear this boot for a couple weeks...


What's the over/under on the boot changing legs like Mccain's :rofl:

Sorry Joe you aint goin NOWHERE but gitmo, pal

https://i.imgur.com/pCsG4y6.jpg

https://mobile.twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333414511588630536

[FBD]

AZ hearing live now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlYFPcm8wfg

"certifying a fraudulent election is lying to the federal government, it is defrauding the us government - back in my day as a prosecutor, we went after people all the time for lying to the government"
:lol: based Rudy

[Muddy]

:lol: Fox is showing their true bankster colored undies, I followed the money and knew a long time ago (like a great many other things that seem to slip notice around here)

Meanwhile, Joe "slips" and twists his ankle, I mean he sprained his ankle, wait I mean its broken...

and he's just got a wear this boot for a couple weeks...


What's the over/under on the boot changing legs like Mccain's :rofl:

Sorry Joe you aint goin NOWHERE but gitmo, pal

https://i.imgur.com/pCsG4y6.jpg

https://mobile.twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333414511588630536

Yer' fuckin' insane... :lol:

[FBD]

Yer' fuckin' insane... :lol:

Nah, you're just too used to cia news :lol: The dog mention is glowspook whistle code. ("Joe broke his ankle playing with his dog." Go look at which bone he broke, and come back going how tf did he break just that one bone in the total middle of his foot, it was the top of the second tarsal. just that one spot.) As I said, there is no way the US Military is going to allow a known traitor to assume office, you're just being shown unequivocally how bad the fraud is. Yes they let this happen. On purpose. To show you great propagandized that yes indeedy, "the rumors are true"

Watch and learn, there's still plenty enough movie left to enjoy.

0% chance for Biden. 0. :razz:

I dont know precisely how this charade plays out, but I know that Biden aint coming out on top :lol:

Time and time again this past 4 years, Trump has given people the opportunity to declare their allegiances...this is more of the same ;)



>I was asked today on a scale of 1 to 10 who will be the next president, and I said 10, it'll be Donald Trump.
>There is no doubt in my mind that he won this election hands down, in a landslide. Probably somewhere between 350 to 400 electoral college votes.
-General Flynn

[FBD]

from the AZ Hearing

https://i.imgur.com/Lu6RlpQ.png

>we were watching
>we know exactly what traffic

:pewpew:

[FBD]

https://i.imgur.com/4qMa40a.png

Mark Elias, anyone remember him? (Perkis Coie)

[Muddy]

:tapfoot:

[FBD]

:tapfoot:

patience, grasshoppa. winning is just a matter of time.

https://twitter.com/SongBird4Trump/status/1333458355487125506

[FBD]

https://i.imgur.com/7eEl6lD.png

[lost in melb.]

Another one down...



Arizona certifies presidential election results despite Giuliani telling lawmakers that votes were manipulated in a conspiracy involving Cuba, Venezuela, and 'crooked' Democrats

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9002479/amp/Arizona-certifies-presidential-election-results-despite-Giuliani-touting-conspiracy.html

[lost in melb.]

patience, grasshoppa. winning is just a matter of time.

https://twitter.com/SongBird4Trump/status/1333458355487125506

Burn in hell, you old Nazi Cunt

[FBD]

Another one down...



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9002479/amp/Arizona-certifies-presidential-election-results-despite-Giuliani-touting-conspiracy.html

I think you need to brush up on what certification is and what it implies, then as a follow up figure out who and how many certify, before passing things on to the legislature ;)

[FBD]

Burn in hell, you old Nazi Cunt

cant even use words properly, nobody's a socialist around here



so which is it, did he break his foot, did he sprain his ankle, or did he have a stroke?
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1333226959250350080

[FBD]

https://twitter.com/adamseconomics/status/1332896227445207042


https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/politics/joe-biden/2019/03/18/joe-biden-2020-how-then-senator-overcame-life-threatening-brain-aneurysms/3002961002/
What Joe Biden learned from his life-threatening brain aneurysms

[Muddy]

Burn in hell, you old Nazi Cunt

Did you just call FBD an "old nazi cunt"?

[Griffin]

I assumed he was referring to the President.

[FBD]

yeah ya gotta love just ignorantly spitting out grab bag memes that arent accurate whatsoever

but we've kinda heard enough of "joe biden won" anyway :lol:

distractions are needed :lol:


Military Cyber security expert testified they tracked Dominion traffic to Frankfurt during 2020 election

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Did you just call FBD an "old nazi cunt"?

The woman in the Avatar. If FBD has been getting stuck into 'Old Spice' I may reconsider :)

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Wisconsin certified! That's all the battle ground states. Worth noting that the Trump hearings above were technically press conferences, nothing official...

In other news:


Joe Biden unveiled his senior economic team, including the nomination of Janet Yellen as Treasury Secretary.

Biden and Kamala Harris received their first Presidential Daily Briefing

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Interesting parallels

Opinion:1918 Germany Has a Warning for America

Donald Trump’s “Stop the Steal” campaign recalls one of the most disastrous political lies of the 20th century.

Jochen Bittner
By Jochen Bittner
Contributing Opinion Writer

Nov. 30, 2020, 1:00 a.m. ET


Credit...Getty Images
HAMBURG, Germany — It may well be that Germans have a special inclination to panic at specters from the past, and I admit that this alarmism annoys me at times. Yet watching President Trump’s “Stop the Steal” campaign since Election Day, I can’t help but see a parallel to one of the most dreadful episodes from Germany’s history.

One hundred years ago, amid the implosions of Imperial Germany, powerful conservatives who led the country into war refused to accept that they had lost. Their denial gave birth to arguably the most potent and disastrous political lie of the 20th century — the Dolchstosslegende, or stab-in-the-back myth.

Its core claim was that Imperial Germany never lost World War I. Defeat, its proponents said, was declared but not warranted. It was a conspiracy, a con, a capitulation — a grave betrayal that forever stained the nation. That the claim was palpably false didn’t matter. Among a sizable number of Germans, it stirred resentment, humiliation and anger. And the one figure who knew best how to exploit their frustration was Adolf Hitler.

Don’t get me wrong: This is not about comparing Mr. Trump to Hitler, which would be absurd. But the Dolchstosslegende provides a warning. It’s tempting to dismiss Mr. Trump’s irrational claim that the election was “rigged” as a laughable last convulsion of his reign or a cynical bid to heighten the market value for the TV personality he might once again intend to become, especially as he appears to be giving up on his effort to overturn the election result.

But that would be a grave error. Instead, the campaign should be seen as what it is: an attempt to elevate “They stole it” to the level of legend, perhaps seeding for the future social polarization and division on a scale America has never seen.

In 1918, Germany was staring at defeat. The entry of the United States into the war the year before, and a sequence of successful counterattacks by British and French forces, left German forces demoralized. Navy sailors went on strike. They had no appetite to be butchered in the hopeless yet supposedly holy mission of Kaiser Wilhelm II and the loyal aristocrats who made up the Supreme Army Command.


A starving population joined the strikes and demands for a republic grew. On Nov. 9, 1918, Wilhelm abdicated, and two days later the army leaders signed the armistice. It was too much to bear for many: Military officers, monarchists and right-wingers spread the myth that if it had not been for political sabotage by Social Democrats and Jews back home, the army would never have had to give in.

The deceit found willing supporters. “Im Felde unbesiegt” — “undefeated on the battlefield” — was the slogan with which returning soldiers were greeted. Newspapers and postcards depicted German soldiers being stabbed in the back by either evil figures carrying the red flag of socialism or grossly caricatured Jews.

By the time of the Treaty of Versailles the following year, the myth was already well established. The harsh conditions imposed by the Allies, including painful reparation payments, burnished the sense of betrayal. It was especially incomprehensible that Germany, in just a couple of years, had gone from one of the world’s most respected nations to its biggest loser.

The startling aspect about the Dolchstosslegende is this: It did not grow weaker after 1918 but stronger. In the face of humiliation and unable or unwilling to cope with the truth, many Germans embarked on a disastrous self-delusion: The nation had been betrayed, but its honor and greatness could never be lost. And those without a sense of national duty and righteousness — the left and even the elected government of the new republic — could never be legitimate custodians of the country.

In this way, the myth was not just the sharp wedge that drove the Weimar Republic apart. It was also at the heart of Nazi propaganda, and instrumental in justifying violence against opponents. The key to Hitler’s success was that, by 1933, a considerable part of the German electorate had put the ideas embodied in the myth — honor, greatness, national pride — above democracy.


The Germans were so worn down by the lost war, unemployment and international humiliation that they fell prey to the promises of a “Führer” who cracked down hard on anyone perceived as “traitors,” leftists and Jews above all. The stab-in-the-back myth was central to it all. When Hitler became chancellor on Jan. 30, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Völkischer Beobachter wrote that “irrepressible pride goes through the millions” who fought so long to “undo the shame of 9 November 1918.”

Germany’s first democracy fell. Without a basic consensus built on a shared reality, society split into groups of ardent, uncompromising partisans. And in an atmosphere of mistrust and paranoia, the notion that dissenters were threats to the nation steadily took hold.

Alarmingly, that seems to be exactly what is happening in the United States today. According to the Pew Research Center, 89 percent of Trump supporters believe that a Joe Biden presidency would do “lasting harm to the U.S.,” while 90 percent of Biden supporters think the reverse. And while the question of which news media to trust has long split America, now even the largely unmoderated Twitter is regarded as partisan. Since the election, millions of Trump supporters have installed the alternative social media app Parler. Filter bubbles are turning into filter networks.

In such a landscape of social fragmentation, Mr. Trump’s baseless accusations about electoral fraud could do serious harm. A staggering 88 percent of Trump voters believe that the election result is illegitimate, according to a YouGov poll. A myth of betrayal and injustice is well underway.

It took another war and decades of reappraisal for the Dolchstosslegende to be exposed as a disastrous, fatal fallacy. If it has any worth today, it is in the lessons it can teach other nations. First among them: Beware the beginnings.

Jochen Bittner (@JochenBittner) is a co-head of the debate section for the weekly newspaper Die Zeit and a contributing opinion writer.

[Griffin]

The biggest difference is that in 1918 they didn't have real-time video showing 19,963 votes deducted from one person and the exact same amount added to the losing party.
They didn't have hundreds of thousands of unknown ballots appear in the middle of the night for the losing party.
They didn't have a computer system in a foreign country adding millions of votes to the losing party.

...but then the blind only know what they are told they see.

[lost in melb.]

The biggest difference is that in 1918 they didn't have real-time video showing 19,963 votes deducted from one person and the exact same amount added to the losing party.
They didn't have hundreds of thousands of unknown ballots appear in the middle of the night for the losing party.
They didn't have a computer system in a foreign country adding millions of votes to the losing party.

...but then the blind only know what they are told they see.

Internet rumours are not proof of "irregularities". Sorry dude

[The Monk]

The biggest difference is that in 1918 they didn't have real-time video showing 19,963 votes deducted from one person and the exact same amount added to the losing party.
They didn't have hundreds of thousands of unknown ballots appear in the middle of the night for the losing party.
They didn't have a computer system in a foreign country adding millions of votes to the losing party.

...but then the blind only know what they are told they see.

If you have the proof, give it to Donald as he hasn't been able to produce any.

[The Monk]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/11/30/trump-renews-ballot-dump-conspiracy-theory-claim-heres-why-its-bogus/?sh=d26ff031dca4

[Griffin]

Internet rumours are not proof of "irregularities". Sorry dude


If you have the proof, give it to Donald as he hasn't been able to produce any.

There you two go with the same rhetoric.
I didn't say I had proof.

I mentioned what I witnessed.

[lost in melb.]

There you two go with the same rhetoric.
I didn't say I had proof.

I mentioned what I witnessed.

I don't mean to be dismissive. I know what you've been reading and what President Trump has been saying.

[lost in melb.]

From one of the most famous conservative mags out there


https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/trump-election-fraud-disgraceful-endgame/


Almost nothing that the Trump team has alleged has withstood the slightest scrutiny. In particular, it’s hard to find much that is remotely true in the president’s Twitter feed these days. It is full of already-debunked claims and crackpot conspiracy theories about Dominion voting systems. Over the weekend, he repeated the charge that 1.8 million mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania were mailed out, yet 2.6 million were ultimately tallied. In a rather elementary error, this compares the number of mail-ballots requested in the primary to the number of ballots counted in the general. A straight apples-to-apples comparison finds that 1.8 million mail-in ballots were requested in the primary and 1.5 million returned, while 3.1 million ballots were requested in the general and 2.6 million returned.

Flawed and dishonest assertions like this pollute the public discourse and mislead good people who make the mistake of believing things said by the president of the United States.Elected Republicans have generally taken the attitude that the president should be able to have his day in court. It’s his legal right to file suits, of course, but he shouldn’t pursue meritless litigation in Hail Mary attempts to get millions of votes tossed out. This is exactly what he’s been doing, it’s why reputable GOP lawyers have increasingly steered clear, and it’s why Trump has suffered defeat after defeat in court.

The idea, as the Trump team stalwartly maintains, that the Supreme Court is going to take up this case and issue a game-changing ruling is fantastical. Conservative judges have consistently rejected Trump’s flailing legal appeals, and the justices are unlikely to have a different reaction.

[FBD]

Internet rumours are not proof of "irregularities". Sorry dude
No, the fact that hundreds of witnesses are giving testimony and sworn affidavits are proof or irregularities. Cripes, any remotely honest look at the numbers and fraud is so easy to detect its not even funny. More votes than registered voters? No problem! Perfect bell curves in certain demographic data? Internet connected voting devices? Just a cohencidence, nothing to see here! Fake ballots? Why let's just count them a second time and make sure they count!

Its almost like you havent actually read a single fact about what's going on aside from "some state cases were tossed" - but then again, given where you get your information, its not like you're going to see what it really is until the fake bubble you're existing in has been popped.

Reminder that Joe Biden is not president elect and he never will be :razz:


From one of the most famous conservative mags out there

-The Editors

wow, that one was such a gem, nobody was even willing to put their name on it :lol:


They're so fkn scared Schumer's trying to get confirmations going before electors have even cast their votes, how ridiculous
https://www.rt.com/usa/508286-schumer-biden-confirmation-inauguration/

[FBD]

PA legislators taking back what's theirs

https://archive.vn/xEDCd

Members of the Pennsylvania General Assembly said in a statement, “A number of compromises of Pennsylvania’s election laws took place during the 2020 General Election. The documented irregularities and improprieties associated with mail-in balloting, pre-canvassing, and canvassing have undermined our elector process and as a result we cannot accept certification of the results in statewide races.”
They added, “We believe this moment is pivotal and important enough that the General Assembly needs to take extraordinary measures to answer these extraordinary questions. We also believe our representative oversight duty as Pennsylvania’s legislative branch of government demands us to re-assume our constitutional authority and take immediate action.”

The proposed text lists three steps taken by the judicial and executive branches to change the rules of the election.

First, on Sept. 17, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court “unlawfully and unilaterally” extended the deadline by which mail ballots could be received, mandated that ballots without a postmark would be treated as timely, and allowed for ballots without a verified voter signature to be accepted, the resolution says.

Second, on Oct. 23, upon a petition from the secretary of the commonwealth, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that signatures on mail-in ballots need not be authenticated.

And third, on Nov. 2, the secretary of the commonwealth “encouraged certain counties to notify party and candidate representatives of mail-in voters whose ballots contained defects,” the resolution says.
All of the changes are contrary to the Pennsylvania Election Code, which requires mail-in ballots to be received at 8 p.m. on Election Day, mandates that signatures on the mail-in ballots be authenticated, and forbids the counting of defective mail-in ballots.

[FBD]

https://i.imgur.com/lqyaPmJ.png

[Muddy]

Where and when was he asked that? Where's the official transcript? Where's the video?

[FBD]

Where and when was he asked that? Where's the official transcript? Where's the video?

he was nabbed on video saying that, there's no "official transcript"

[Griffin]

I don't mean to be dismissive. I know what you've been reading and what President Trump has been saying.

No. It was right there for all to see. Anyone who says they didn't see it are in denial.

[Muddy]

he was nabbed on video saying that, there's no "official transcript"

Where is the video?

[lost in melb.]

No, the fact that hundreds of witnesses are giving testimony and sworn affidavits are proof or irregularities. Cripes, any remotely honest look at the numbers and fraud is so easy to detect its not even funny. More votes than registered voters? No problem! Perfect bell curves in certain demographic data? Internet connected voting devices? Just a cohencidence, nothing to see here! Fake ballots? Why let's just count them a second time and make sure they count!

Its almost like you havent actually read a single fact about what's going on aside from "some state cases were tossed" - but then again, given where you get your information, its not like you're going to see what it really is until the fake bubble you're existing in has been popped.

Reminder that Joe Biden is not president elect and he never will be :razz:



-The Editors

wow, that one was such a gem, nobody was even willing to put their name on it :lol:


They're so fkn scared Schumer's trying to get confirmations going before electors have even cast their votes, how ridiculous
https://www.rt.com/usa/508286-schumer-biden-confirmation-inauguration/

Photos of pieces of paper, dude.

Suggest Trump team get these star witnesses into court for cross-examination. The other side gets to bring in witnesses as well.

Why hasn't this been organised? Didn't Trump's legal fund rake in millions and millions of dollars. Take it to court.

[lost in melb.]

No. It was right there for all to see. Anyone who says they didn't see it are in denial.

Numbers changing on TV screen aren't evidence dude. I've done a quick survey of most of the main conspiracy theories about the election and this one was explained, by the way. Ill let you find the links yourself...

[FBD]

Photos of pieces of paper, dude.:lol: yeah and the docket numbers mean nothing....cmon dude you're getting to be a caricature at this point...we've got all that up and past catching dominion employees doing things they shouldnt be doing, on camera.



Numbers changing on TV screen aren't evidence dude. I've done a quick survey of most of the main conspiracy theories about the election and this one was explained, by the way. Ill let you find the links yourself...
"explained" :rofl:

keep focusing on those state cases where we have a corrupt official trying to roadblock the legal process and calling it Trump btfo :lol: seriously, the left is nothing but a joke where politics are concerned.

:hand: its just money in a bank :lol:
https://i.imgur.com/46DO4QQ.jpg


:hand: I dont care if you captured all the packets going from the voting machines to dominion, they're just electrons :rofl:

we literally have the traffic captured. its all fucking over, the fraudsters are caught, the state levels dont mean shit, it doesnt matter how many corrupt officials or judges try to certify fraud, its not going to work.

sooner or later you're going to have to face this reality that the idiot group you consider cognoscenti are a bunch of groupthink fools who dutifully believe as dictat from above spells out. its not a winning strategy when groupthink so severely deviates from actual reality.

[Griffin]

So during the short window of time yesterday that the restraining order to leave the dominion servers alone was lifted then reinstated, someone walked out with a server. :-k

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-yIg_uyG_UpE%2FT25D_jJy_aI%2FAAAAAAAABNk%2FIZdI9ZA1 gCc%2Fs400%2Fmovealong1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

[FBD]

Dr Pie confirmed Biden's boot :haha:

[Muddy]

:lol: yeah and the docket numbers mean nothing....cmon dude you're getting to be a caricature at this point...we've got all that up and past catching dominion employees doing things they shouldnt be doing, on camera.



"explained" :rofl:

keep focusing on those state cases where we have a corrupt official trying to roadblock the legal process and calling it Trump btfo :lol: seriously, the left is nothing but a joke where politics are concerned.

:hand: its just money in a bank :lol:
https://i.imgur.com/46DO4QQ.jpg


:hand: I dont care if you captured all the packets going from the voting machines to dominion, they're just electrons :rofl:

we literally have the traffic captured. its all fucking over, the fraudsters are caught, the state levels dont mean shit, it doesnt matter how many corrupt officials or judges try to certify fraud, its not going to work.

sooner or later you're going to have to face this reality that the idiot group you consider cognoscenti are a bunch of groupthink fools who dutifully believe as dictat from above spells out. its not a winning strategy when groupthink so severely deviates from actual reality.

Do you have a copy of the SEC filings or just that graphic..?

[FBD]

Do you have a copy of the SEC filings or just that graphic..?

I didnt download a full copy of them, but saw enough excerpts....this is where Iran is going to come into play also, one of the playas in all this is Iranian

[Muddy]

How about the Russians? Not them this year? Or is that only BS if the Democrats cry foul..?

[FBD]

How about the Russians? Not them this year? Or is that only BS if the Democrats cry foul..?

I havent seen much of anything....putin does not appear to be a friend of the globalists...thats not to say he doesnt have relative oligarch pals, but the factions of them who want to establish a global kakocracy have been pissed at him ever since he stopped and reversed much of the oligarch looting that took place in between when gorby left and when he took office. Putin also kept a steady hand and was perhaps the #1 man responsible for having kept outright war out of Syria. To the extent there was any "Russian" involvement concerning matters of the USA's 2020 electoral fraud, I'm sure there's perhaps Russians in there somewhere, just not Russian State actors.

I'll have to check in on Ukraine's court proceedings and see where they are, they are probably waiting to see the outcome before doing anything, because from their standpoint Biden has already raped them severely, and should he get back in office then he would go on an absolute rape spree in Ukraine and make them pay for their defiance.

[lost in melb.]

:lol: yeah and the docket numbers mean nothing....cmon dude you're getting to be a caricature at this point...we've got all that up and past catching dominion employees doing things they shouldnt be doing, on camera.



"explained" :rofl:

keep focusing on those state cases where we have a corrupt official trying to roadblock the legal process and calling it Trump btfo :lol: seriously, the left is nothing but a joke where politics are concerned.

:hand: its just money in a bank :lol:
https://i.imgur.com/46DO4QQ.jpg


:hand: I dont care if you captured all the packets going from the voting machines to dominion, they're just electrons :rofl:

we literally have the traffic captured. its all fucking over, the fraudsters are caught, the state levels dont mean shit, it doesnt matter how many corrupt officials or judges try to certify fraud, its not going to work.

sooner or later you're going to have to face this reality that the idiot group you consider cognoscenti are a bunch of groupthink fools who dutifully believe as dictat from above spells out. its not a winning strategy when groupthink so severely deviates from actual reality.

Great. Look forward to the court case where these internet rumours become concretized. Should be an easy win with all this 'evidence', no?

[lost in melb.]

US politics live updates: Donald Trump's Attorney-General William Barr says no evidence of widespread voter fraud.


WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

His comments in an interview with The Associated Press come despite President Donald Trump’s repeated baseless claims that the election was stolen, Trump’s effort to subvert the results of the 2020 presidential election and his refusal to concede his loss to President-Elect Joe Biden.

Barr said U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but they’ve uncovered no evidence that would change the outcome of the election. Barr was headed to the White House later for a previously scheduled meeting.

“To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election,” Barr told the AP.

The comments are especially direct coming from Barr, who has been one of the president’s most ardent allies. Before the election, he had repeatedly raised the notion that mail-in voter fraud could be especially vulnerable to fraud during the coronavirus pandemic as Americans feared going to polls and instead chose to vote by mail.

[Muddy]

I mean.. I have a lot of respect for Bill Barr...? I feel like he's a 'call it like it is' dude.

[Muddy]

I don't think the right understands how many people absolutely loathe Trump because of his mouth.. I mean, we had righties saying outright, 'I'm a rightie but I refuse to vote for that guy'..

[The Monk]

https://i.imgur.com/OjnoUvy.mp4

[perrhaps]

I mean.. I have a lot of respect for Bill Barr...? I feel like he's a 'call it like it is' dude.

I don't share your respect, but it is telling that Trump's own lapdog bit him.

[FBD]

Great. Look forward to the court case where these internet rumours become concretized. Should be an easy win with all this 'evidence', no?Do you think I am so superlatively confident for no reason? ;) A military Colonel testifying is not internet rumor :razz:
https://i.imgur.com/iTpu0eg.jpg


I don't think the right understands how many people absolutely loathe Trump because of his mouth.. I mean, we had righties saying outright, 'I'm a rightie but I refuse to vote for that guy'..I have not heard a single person irl say this unless they were a leftie. Even people who I know dont really pay attention to politics and would only have gotten some info from the tv havent said shit like that, so long as their head was screwed on remotely straight and they werent actually a leftist or acting leftist in order to fit in with a crowd or perceived crowd. Sole exception was my dad getting incredulous about Trump going after Biden in that first debate, the rino side of my dad expected him to lay down and take it or something.


I don't share your respect, but it is telling that AP reported lies.
:ftfy: as usual, it something akin to "quite the opposite" - special counsel? but the news would have told us if trump appointed a special counsel!
https://i.imgur.com/3TQGelt.jpg

[Muddy]

I have not heard a single person irl say this unless they were a leftie. Even people who I know dont really pay attention to politics and would only have gotten some info from the tv havent said shit like that, so long as their head was screwed on remotely straight and they werent actually a leftist or acting leftist in order to fit in with a crowd or perceived crowd. Sole exception was my dad getting incredulous about Trump going after Biden in that first debate, the rino side of my dad expected him to lay down and take it or something.



Apparently we live in different areas.

He's a thin-skinned petulant child, man. Everyone got a name from him.. Crooked Hillary, Lyin' Ted, Mini-Mike etc.

Did you know, there is a way to stick up for yourself and at the same time not act like a 15 year old little girl texting on the internet.? Just state the facts for god sake. Spare us the childish diatribe.

[Griffin]

Everyone got a name from him.. Crooked Hillary, Lyin' Ted, Mini-Mike etc.

.

welll...:rolleyes:

[FBD]

Spare us the childish diatribe.

:lol: well, that's what I considered all the whining about Trump standing up for himself and taking the mega corporations and their mouthpieces head on, to be - after all, the mega corporations have invested quite a lot of resources into putting that meme into people's heads that any time Trump fires back or otherwise stands up for himself or other patriotic americans, it is petulant childish diatribe.

waggety waggety :wave:

[Muddy]

:lol: well, that's what I considered all the whining about Trump standing up for himself and taking the mega corporations and their mouthpieces head on, to be - after all, the mega corporations have invested quite a lot of resources into putting that meme into people's heads that any time Trump fires back or otherwise stands up for himself or other patriotic americans, it is petulant childish diatribe.

waggety waggety :wave:

:facepalm:

[FBD]

its this level of serious

like I said, there's no way in hell the us military allows a known traitor to assume office

https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1333916403389370369

[FBD]

live in Atlanta @ 11am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs1r_eXuspM

[lost in melb.]

Lots of juicy wanna-be Nazi psychopaths trying to take control of the US at the moment :tup:

[Griffin]

Lots of juicy wanna-be Nazi psychopaths trying to take control of the US at the moment :tup:

Yepp. But we'll stop the dems from doing it.:tup:

[FBD]

https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/02/lawsuit-by-trump-allies-challenging-pennsylvania-election-results-reaches-supreme-court/

Lawsuit by Trump allies challenging Pennsylvania election results reaches Supreme Court

WASHINGTON – An effort to overturn the presidential election results in Pennsylvania made its way to the Supreme Court Tuesday.

Republican Rep. Mike Kelly, R-Pa., and others, including Sean Parnell, contend state officials had no right under the Pennsylvania Constitution to expand mail-in voting in 2019, and the state Supreme Court was wrong to uphold that statute. The group called it “an unconstitutional, no-excuse absentee voting scheme.”

“Pennsylvania’s General Assembly exceeded its powers by unconstitutionally allowing no-excuse absentee voting, including for federal offices, in the election,” the challengers argued in court papers. As a result, the election was “conducted illegally.”

The group seeks an emergency injunction from the nation’s highest court to block the completion of any remaining steps in the state’s certification of Pennsylvania’s 2020 election results, which took place last week. The petition was submitted to Associate Justice Samuel Alito. The court will now decide whether to take the case.

[FBD]

Lots of juicy wanna-be Nazi psychopaths trying to take control of the US at the moment :tup:

https://i.imgur.com/BPDjFtF.mp4

If you dont understand that Nazis were socialists, then I question your education on the matter.

We dont have socialists trying to take over the country. We have kleptocrats trying to take over the country, and they used socialism as a facemask, with pretty much the entire left falling for it. There's a very big reason that academics were always taught (brainwashed) to use Nationalism as the first word of the definition of Fascism, because then by definition, International Fascism is already precluded as a concept.

Here we are with mega corporations literally taking over governments, and you're misusing so badly they might as well just be memes. Lefty memes that make no sense, are overly complicated, and dont contain any appreciable humor or wit.

[lost in melb.]

https://i.imgur.com/BPDjFtF.mp4

If you dont understand that Nazis were socialists, then I question your education on the matter.

We dont have socialists trying to take over the country. We have kleptocrats trying to take over the country, and they used socialism as a facemask, with pretty much the entire left falling for it. There's a very big reason that academics were always taught (brainwashed) to use Nationalism as the first word of the definition of Fascism, because then by definition, International Fascism is already precluded as a concept.

Here we are with mega corporations literally taking over governments, and you're misusing so badly they might as well just be memes. Lefty memes that make no sense, are overly complicated, and dont contain any appreciable humor or wit.

No, they were not socialists. They targeted socialists, they targeted left wing. It's a little story you tell yourself

[FBD]

No, they were not socialists. They targeted socialists, they targeted left wing. It's a little story you tell yourself

:hand: Just because they burned pedo materials doesnt make them anti socialist. socialist is right there in the name ffs :lol:

to the extent they were anti left wing is the same extent the left wing was infused with jews, nobody wants an extreme left wing any more than anyone wants an extreme right wing

(no, I dont expect to reverse decades of your programming on this, nor would I ever expect you to follow the money on the perversions that engendered that programming)

but it is getting more and more amusing the further we delve into these delusions you've been infused with, I mean not knowing the Nazis were at minimum center left, and actually trying to call them far right like the italian fascists or something....what a hoot :lol: b-b-b-but they were allies, they couldnt possibly be left/right like that!?!?! :rofl:

and you wonder why we laugh at schools being indoctrination centers

I hope you dont take these things personally when I point out the ways you've been brainwashed with globalist propaganda, it is what it is, the robber barons expended a lot of effort over many many decades to produce this result. I'm just tellin ya like it is, and I know its caustic to a bunch of your worldview, that's why I said dont be too attached to what the tv has told you all these years.

[The Monk]

Yepp. But we'll stop the dems from doing it.:tup:

you can't do that - they won the election.... :tup::tup:

[The Monk]

If you're asking for a pardon before there are any charges or convictions then you must be admitting that you are guilty of a crime.


See Article (https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/trump-associates-have-reportedly-started-asking-for-pardons/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR07W6w-cVTHoPvA8umICbgCjoKiA_kqAU5x5fTAMqj7wjiwmzN6xJyIkJ 8)


As for the rumours of Trump pardoning himself, I believe the US Supreme court has previously decreed that you cannot be your own judge and jury.