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RBP
04-14-2019, 01:00 PM
This is marked SD to not go off the rails. The Iowa primary is still 10 months off, so a lot can change. I'm going to use this thread to post information on the race including polling data. This can also be the place to discuss candidates and the over re-election chances for Trump, and the potential impact of a Howard Schultz independent run. Should be a wild ride.

RCP polling data - Dem nomination

http://i68.tinypic.com/a131ie.png

Notes: Biden has not declared. Buttigieg is announcing today.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-16-2019, 11:32 AM
Mike Brest - The Daily Caller


Independent Vermont Sen. and presidential candidate Bernie Sanders had a multitude of combative moments during his Monday night town hall on Fox News.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc0OR9OTFWo

Sanders got snippy during a back-and-forth when the topic of his taxes came up, which coincidently occurred only a short time after he released 10 years of tax returns and it confirmed his status as a millionaire.
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MacCallum asked Sanders, “So would you be willing to pay 52% on the money that you made? You can volunteer, you can send it back.”

“You can volunteer too…why don’t you give? You make more money than I do,” Sanders retorted.

“I didn’t suggest a wealth tax,” MacCallum fired back, and Baier chimed in, “And she’s not running for POTUS.”

The moderators then went to the audience for a question.

A woman brought up socialism, read the definition of it, and asked Sanders, “How can you challenge the idea that socialism is bad in the minds of the public?”

Sanders pointed to Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum, the two Fox News anchors moderating the event, and said, “Ask them, not me.”

Baier then asked if this is “going to be a constant thing.”

“You ask me fair questions, I will give you fair answers,” the Democratic presidential candidate answered, before going into a diatribe about how Fox News “does not necessarily have a great deal of respect in my world.”

Minutes later, Sanders became critical of the media as whole, suggesting that the issues individuals bring up to him are not the ones that the media covers.

Following that criticism, Baier shot back, “We’re very grateful that you’re here,” Baier said. “We are giving you an hour of substance and talk on our airwaves. So we can get over the Fox thing. If you’re alright with that?”

Sanders was the first declared presidential candidate to have a town hall on the network. Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz had a town hall on the network earlier this month, but he has not yet declared a formal run.

The Vermont senator’s decision to have this event on Fox News bucks the Democratic National Committee’s decision not to allow the network to host a presidential debate. DNC Chairman Tom Perez released a statement about the DNC’s decision last month, saying that Fox News is “not in a position to host a fair and neutral debate,” citing a New Yorker report, which alleged that Fox News has become a propaganda outlet for the Trump administration.

perrhaps
04-20-2019, 09:34 AM
Biden-Gabbard would be a very formidable ticket.

RBP
04-20-2019, 12:36 PM
Biden-Gabbard would be a very formidable ticket.

Gabbard gets negative or no press, her consultants quit a week in, she's 38, she doesn't even show up in the polling data, and has no policy positions on her presidential website, and is under fire in her home state. Why is she "formidable"? It's confusing.

Politico Article:
Where in the world is Tulsi Gabbard? (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/19/tulsi-gabbard-2020-campaign-1225758)

Teh One Who Knocks
04-20-2019, 02:25 PM
Gabbard gets negative or no press, her consultants quit a week in, she's 38, she doesn't even show up in the polling data, and has no policy positions on her presidential website, and is under fire in her home state. Why is she "formidable"? It's confusing.

Politico Article:
Where in the world is Tulsi Gabbard? (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/19/tulsi-gabbard-2020-campaign-1225758)Yeah, Creepy Uncle Joe and the Invisible Gabbard doesn't exactly strike fear into the heart. Or evoke feelings of greatness either.

perrhaps
04-23-2019, 10:18 AM
Neither are fiscally radical; both speak in coherent sentences; she served her country without reservation (as opposed to getting deferments for cold/flat feet). As the old saw goes, they'd play well in Peoria, not to mention the Philly 'burbs, which will be the key to winning PA. I believe they will do much better than Clinton in swaying the moderate/independent vote.

RBP
04-23-2019, 10:46 AM
Neither are fiscally radical; both speak in coherent sentences; she served her country without reservation (as opposed to getting deferments for cold/flat feet). As the old saw goes, they'd play well in Peoria, not to mention the Philly 'burbs, which will be the key to winning PA. I believe they will do much better than Clinton in swaying the moderate/independent vote.

I agree that a moderate ticket is the only way to win. Look smart, civil, and presidential. But I am not sure the minority of angry screeching radical leftists will allow it.

RBP
04-23-2019, 10:53 AM
Mayor Pete! :shock: Even with no policy statements. Huh.

Iowa Caucus numbers
http://i67.tinypic.com/2lig4xs.jpg

Teh One Who Knocks
04-23-2019, 11:12 AM
Mayor Pete! :shock: Even with no policy statements. Huh.

Iowa Caucus numbers
http://i67.tinypic.com/2lig4xs.jpg

It's because right now he is the 'flavor du jour' on the democrat side. Poll numbers fluctuate wildly at this time. What sucks is we're fully more than 18 months away from the 2020 elections and it's already dominating the news cycles. I'm already tired of it. :|

RBP
04-23-2019, 05:49 PM
It's because right now he is the 'flavor du jour' on the democrat side. Poll numbers fluctuate wildly at this time. What sucks is we're fully more than 18 months away from the 2020 elections and it's already dominating the news cycles. I'm really excited and want more polling data!! :|

Well then, here you go!

Biden, Beto falter in new progressive straw poll

Bernie Sanders has solidified his front-runner standing among members of the progressive political action committee Democracy for America, while Joe Biden and Beto O’Rourke have both fallen back sharply, according to the group’s latest straw poll.

Elizabeth Warren is now running second to Sanders in the DFA poll — though she trails the independent senator from Vermont by more than 30 percentage points, according to the survey released Tuesday and obtained first by POLITICO.

The straw poll, which is significant more as an indicator of activist support than a measure of public opinion, reflects the durability of support for Sanders and a shift in some left-flank enthusiasm for two rivals: O’Rourke, the former Texas congressman, and Biden, the former vice president who is expected to announce his 2020 presidential campaign soon.

In DFA’s first 2020 straw poll, in December, Biden was running second to Sanders at 15 percent, followed by O’Rourke at 12 percent. By this month, Biden’s support had fallen to about 8 percent, while O’Rourke slid to about 3 percent.

Meanwhile, Sanders drew 42 percent support, up about 6 percentage points from December. Warren saw support for her candidacy tick up to about 11 percent, according to the poll, followed by South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg at about 10 percent.

DFA said Buttigieg likely benefitted most from waning support for O’Rourke. Among members who participated in both the DFA’s December and April polls, about 23 percent of O’Rourke’s supporters shifted their support to Buttigieg, with another 16 percent moving to Sanders and about 12 percent shifting to Warren.

“While these new poll results show Bernie Sanders retaining and even strengthening his support among progressives, the big shifts in support for the broad field of candidate we’ve seen over the last three months make it clear that Democracy for America members are very open to changing their minds, discovering new candidates, and reevaluating potential nominees based on the campaign they run in the months ahead,” Democracy for America Chairman Charles Chamberlain said in a prepared statement.

DFA boasts more than 1 million members, and the group was instrumental in Sanders’ unsuccessful run for president in 2016. But its membership also has strong ties to Warren, the senator from Massachusetts. Founded by Howard Dean following his run for president in 2004, DFA helped organize an aggressive, ultimately unsuccessful effort to draft Warren into the 2016 presidential campaign.

Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg and Biden were followed in the latest straw poll by Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), at about 7 percent support. Former Sen. Mike Gravel of Alaska was just behind Harris, at about 6 percent.

DFA said members cast 94,641 votes in the poll, which ran April 1 through April 19. DFA is expected to run additional straw polls before any endorsement. The next poll will likely come after the first presidential debate this summer.

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Interesting consolidation where Beto is losing interest, and Mayor Pete is the benefactor. That's what gets interesting, whose base is solid or fluid and where does the consolidation happen.

RBP
04-24-2019, 03:09 AM
Any non-PC-ridden, non-Communist Democrat prospects??

Andrew Yang, John Delany

Edit: and Joe Biden, but I have no idea if he'll stay true to history or not.

DemonGeminiX
04-24-2019, 04:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spx6kjN0gyY

DemonGeminiX
04-24-2019, 04:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quzJaHU4zt4

Teh One Who Knocks
04-24-2019, 10:45 AM
Andrew Yang, John Delany

Edit: and Joe Biden, but I have no idea if he'll stay true to history or not.

:facepalm:

You're fully aboard that Yang train, aren't you? He's a progressive.

RBP
04-24-2019, 10:51 AM
:facepalm:

You're fully aboard that Yang train, aren't you? He's a progressive.

That wasn't the question.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-24-2019, 10:56 AM
That wasn't the question.

He asked about non-Communist prospects. Progressive is just the PC way of calling yourself a socialist/communist without coming right out and saying it. Any candidate that pledges to give everyone free money at taxpayer expense just for being the "best you that you can be" is a socialist. You can put lipstick on a pig and all....

RBP
04-24-2019, 12:17 PM
He asked about non-Communist prospects. Progressive is just the PC way of calling yourself a socialist/communist without coming right out and saying it. Any candidate that pledges to give everyone free money at taxpayer expense just for being the "best you that you can be" is a socialist. You can put lipstick on a pig and all....

The current welfare system is an administrative nightmare and an expense we cannot continue. Plus disability is the new unemployment compensation, adding to the problems with social security. By your "free money" definition, every president is a socialist. We've been overpaying on social welfare programs for decades.

Yang is left of center, yes, but still a capitalist.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-24-2019, 01:22 PM
Kamala Harris initially agreed with Bernie about letting felons in prison vote, but then flip-flopped on that position later in the day when asked about it again. :roll:

RBP
04-24-2019, 07:47 PM
Kamala Harris initially agreed with Bernie about letting felons in prison vote, but then flip-flopped on that position later in the day when asked about it again. :roll:

Well she should have. I believe she said in the town hall that it's worth a discussion. Maybe she had that discussion and then said no. :lol:

I am not opposed to allowing those who have fully paid their debt to society to get the right to vote back. Not the incarcerated or paroled. They are still wards of the state.

RBP
04-24-2019, 07:51 PM
National Review https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/andrew-yang-technocrat-not-politician (rally video in link)

The appeal of his technocratic ideas — some feasible, some not — shows that there are voters interested in non-ideological solutions.

f you’re paying attention to presidential politics, you should be paying attention to Andrew Yang, a tech entrepreneur running for president as a Democrat.

Yang is worth taking seriously not because he has a real shot at the nomination (he comes in at about 1 percent in most polls), but because, unlike most of the politicians in the field with him, he has a policy agenda that features genuinely new ideas that, even if unworkable, augur interesting times for the future of American politics.

Despite the assumptions of its advocates, the Democratic party’s primary campaign has thus far shown few signs that it is the party of the 21st century. Its freshest candidate, South Bend mayor Pete Buttigieg, is notable mainly for his rhetorical resemblance to Barack Obama. Joe Biden — who’s expected to announce his own presidential campaign on Thursday and who already leads in many polls — is in his mid 70s and appeals to voters for few reasons other than being a familiar establishment face and a callback to the Obama era. At the same time, a handful of Democratic senators are elbowing each other out of the way as they struggle to race as far left as Bernie Sanders, who has been standing there patiently for decades.

But the decidedly nonpartisan Yang hasn’t been hanging around on the outskirts of Congress or in a governor’s mansion waiting for his shot. He’s not in the field because he wants to make a name for himself and become a Democratic-party fixture going forward. He’s there because he thinks he actually has the substance to speak to our current moment. Plenty of people agree that we’re facing cultural disintegration, he says, but too few are proposing an actual plan for recovery.

“Right now, you have a whole confluence of negative forces coming together that are driving economic distress and political and social dysfunction,” he tells me on the phone. “Most of the solutions that people are offering will not move the needle.” Talking to Yang is like talking to your undergraduate economics professor in office hours as he tries to find a way to communicate with students who were too bored to pay attention the first time he explained something in class. He thinks he gets it, and he wants you to get it, too.

Yang has thought through pretty much every issue — even those that have little to no bearing on the average voter — and takes a clear-cut stance on all of them. His website details positions on everything from Medicare for All to paying NCAA athletes, from crypto-asset regulation to “modernizing the grid.” He has a stance on packaging waste (anti), revitalizing American malls (pro), ranked-choice voting in federal elections (pro), algorithmic financial trading (anti), and the penny (very, very anti).

Yang has the least name recognition of any Democratic-primary candidate, with 54 percent of voters saying they’ve never heard of him. He sees that as an upside.

“I’ve raised between $2 and $3 million, and my name recognition is still very low. Most Americans have never heard of Andrew Yang,” he tells me when I ask how he plans to stand out in the field. But his very next sentence is optimistic, paraphrasing elections blogger Nate Silver’s analysis of his campaign: “Based on the fact that he is outpolling and out-fundraising what you would expect given his low name recognition, there’s a chance that Andrew Yang just grows and grows and takes the whole thing.”

Is Yang-mentum a myth? He won’t win the nomination, but he’ll have plenty of chances to evangelize during the primary: In March, his campaign exceeded the 65,000-donor threshold to merit a place in the first Democratic-primary debate, and he’s garnered media coverage from some surprising places.

“Most Americans are still going to be finding out about me when they watch these debates,” he goes on. “They’re going to see me. They’re going to Google me. They’ll be like, ‘Who’s that guy?’” He pauses to chuckle at his own comment. “Then the more people dig into my vision for the country, the better I’m going to do.”

Much of the buzz around Yang is generated by his “freedom dividend,” a universal-basic-income (UBI) proposal to give every American the option of receiving $1,000 per month from the federal government. Unlike the policy proposals of the other Democratic candidates, most of whom seem to be basing their positions more or less on where their next-closest competitor was standing yesterday, Yang’s UBI — though rightly unpersuasive to conservatives on principle — is based on his careful thought about the state of the American economy and the social complications that have arisen as a result.

He describes the status quo in somewhat grave terms, noting that rates of business formation and interstate migration are at multi-decade lows, which he calls “very dispiriting.” He also doubts that things will improve on their own. “It’s likely to get much worse,” he says, “as the stores close and the self-driving cars take over and the robots start displacing warehouse shelvers and all the rest.”

It’s a bit grim, and yet he’s still optimistic. He thinks policy can actually have an effect. The question for policymakers, to his mind, is how to increase economic mobility and dynamism in spite of these factors — and he calls his UBI proposal “easily the most direct and impactful and immediate” way to “put resources in the hands of American families and workers.”

The crude materialism of his “freedom dividend” sidesteps the cultural factors that also may underpin our woes. Yang concedes as much, but argues that his proposal at least makes use of the levers available to government. “What does the cultural restoration look like?” he asks me rhetorically.

For him, the freedom dividend is the chief answer. He sees it as the best available method to “redirect economic resources in a way that does not magically rejuvenate various institutions or restore various cultural values, but at least it provides an environment where that rejuvenation and restoration becomes more possible and more realistic.”

Some conservatives, including Charles Murray, have suggested a UBI as a replacement for the current congeries of social-welfare programs. Yang’s plan doesn’t quite go that far, but he thinks it would effectively consolidate the safety net over time. “My plan is in some ways a hybrid where we offer the freedom dividend universally to every American adult, but if you opt in, then you are forgoing the benefits from the vast majority of our existing programs,” he explains, arguing that this would quickly decrease enrollment in welfare programs.

He acknowledges that his idea will require more government spending up front, but he thinks it would pay off: “We get a lot of that money back in various ways through economic growth and direct costs and the value gains from having a stronger, healthier, better educated, mentally healthier, more productive population.”

Is Andrew Yang going to be the next Democratic nominee? He isn’t saying that, exactly. “I’m going to suggest that going from an anonymous non–public official to 3 percent [in polls] and making the debates is a harder leap than going from 3 percent to contention,” is how he puts it to me. Maybe so.

Unlike the rest of the Democrats, Yang is not fighting for the honor of being the most left-wing candidate on stage. He’s not even especially progressive. He is, ultimately, a technocrat, with a complex explanation for every problem and a corresponding, carefully developed policy solution, which is more feasible in some cases than in others.

Yang is worth paying attention to not because those solutions are the right ones, but because he’s identifying many of the right problems and because his approach deviates from the typical political fare. He matters for what he reveals about our political moment and what is likely to come next. That future will have more politicians, on both sides of the aisle, who sound a lot more like Andrew Yang.

RBP
04-24-2019, 07:53 PM
I would love for this election to be about ideas, not personalities and social justice.

lost in melb.
04-24-2019, 08:37 PM
I would love for this election to be about ideas, not personalities and social justice.

The world's greatest Stage Show.

Sowing hate and false hope are stronger forces than fostering nuances of rationality.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-25-2019, 03:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbOU2fTg6cI

Wow

RBP
04-25-2019, 03:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbOU2fTg6cI

Wow

I am completely stunned by that. Holy shit. :shock:

Teh One Who Knocks
04-25-2019, 03:53 PM
I am completely stunned by that. Holy shit. :shock:

He's all in on the Trump and his supporters are Nazi's wagon.

RBP
04-25-2019, 04:05 PM
He's all in on the Trump and his supporters are Nazi's wagon.

I am going to have to see how this plays, but I can't imagine that's a good strategy. Plus he just voluntarily threw open the door to a complete review of his record on civil rights. It's not that great.

Big thumbs down here for that strategy. The middle lane is WIDE OPEN, and he drives straight into the leftist lane at 100 MPH. I don't understand.

Edit: He really compared the US today as on the same path as 1930's Nazi Germany. I ummmm... wow.

DemonGeminiX
04-25-2019, 06:19 PM
Fuck you, creepy Uncle Joe.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-25-2019, 06:20 PM
Fuck you, creepy Uncle Joe.

You sound like one o' them there Nazi's :suspect:

DemonGeminiX
04-25-2019, 06:29 PM
Man, in 2016, I was deplorable. Now, I'm a Nazi. I wonder what they're gonna call me in 2024 when the Republicans win the presidency a third time in a row?

Muddy
04-25-2019, 07:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbOU2fTg6cI

Wow

What a piece of shit. His whole campaign is one big race card?

PorkChopSandwiches
04-25-2019, 07:11 PM
https://i.redd.it/o2z0ih8aleu21.jpg

Muddy
04-25-2019, 07:20 PM
Joe Biden, picking up where his little brother left off..

RBP
04-25-2019, 07:27 PM
Just a caution before we get to far off. The thread is marked SD.

PorkChopSandwiches
04-25-2019, 07:27 PM
Sorry about that

RBP
04-25-2019, 07:31 PM
Sorry about that

Wasn't personal. We all can sense when a thread is about to go the rails. :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
04-25-2019, 07:32 PM
What a piece of shit. His whole campaign is one big race card?

Now you're on board the Biden train.

lost in melb.
04-25-2019, 08:03 PM
I am going to have to see how this plays, but I can't imagine that's a good strategy. Plus he just voluntarily threw open the door to a complete review of his record on civil rights. It's not that great.

Big thumbs down here for that strategy. The middle lane is WIDE OPEN, and he drives straight into the leftist lane at 100 MPH. I don't understand.

Edit: He really compared the US today as on the same path as 1930's Nazi Germany. I ummmm... wow.

I'll be honest. I was concerned that the US would start going down that path when Trump came to power. But it didn't happen.

I still worry about it though.

PorkChopSandwiches
04-25-2019, 08:32 PM
I'll be honest. I was concerned that the US would start going down that path when Trump came to power. But it didn't happen.

I still worry about it though.

Which is why MSM in the US is going to the shitter. Its all lies

Muddy
04-25-2019, 08:36 PM
I'll be honest. I was concerned that the US would start going down that path when Trump came to power. But it didn't happen.

I still worry about it though.

Homie... Mainstream American Honkies are no more racist than any other group, we are just targeted and portrayed as such by the media.

lost in melb.
04-25-2019, 08:54 PM
What a piece of shit. His whole campaign is one big race card?

He was probably advised to take this path.

lost in melb.
04-25-2019, 08:57 PM
Which is why MSM in the US is going to the shitter. Its all lies


Homie... Mainstream American Honkies are no more racist than any other group, we are just targeted and portrayed as such by the media.

Having lived/worked in a 78% pro-Trump county, I am beginning to suspect this.

Mind you, haven't been down South.

DemonGeminiX
04-25-2019, 10:22 PM
Having lived/worked in a 78% pro-Trump county, I am beginning to suspect this.

Mind you, haven't been down South.

I have. I've been down here in the South since '91. Keep in mind I was born in Philadelphia and raised in a Philadelphia suburb of New Jersey before then. I've seen more racism in my first 16 years of life up north than I have in the 28 years I've been down here.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-26-2019, 01:26 PM
I am going to have to see how this plays, but I can't imagine that's a good strategy. Plus he just voluntarily threw open the door to a complete review of his record on civil rights. It's not that great.

Big thumbs down here for that strategy. The middle lane is WIDE OPEN, and he drives straight into the leftist lane at 100 MPH. I don't understand.

Edit: He really compared the US today as on the same path as 1930's Nazi Germany. I ummmm... wow.

https://i.imgur.com/T8XncVTl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sUNVnX0l.jpg

RBP
04-26-2019, 01:29 PM
Called it.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-26-2019, 01:32 PM
Called it.

And I'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg too.

Muddy
04-26-2019, 01:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/sUNVnX0l.jpg


OUCH..!!!

Teh One Who Knocks
04-26-2019, 01:50 PM
You know what's really scary about this group of democrat candidates? They're making Hillary look like a moderate.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-29-2019, 11:52 AM
By Sam Dorman | Fox News


https://i.imgur.com/DwUibvt.jpg

Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., indicated on Saturday that she would use the "bully pulpit" to fight "right-to-work" laws, describing them as an attack on workers' rights.

"The barriers to organized labor being able to organize and strike are something that have grown over a period of time," the 2020 presidential hopeful said while speaking at the National Forum on Wages and Working People.

At the event, Harris emphasized the bully pulpit and executive authority to fight for workers' rights and specifically mentioned right-to-work laws.

"It has to be about, for example, banning right-to-work laws," she said.
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The event, organized by the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) and the Center for American Progress, sought to "provide an opportunity for thought leaders to go beyond talking points and share concrete plans to rebalance our economy and democracy," according to its website.

Harris' comments came after years of states like Michigan and Virginia debating controversial right-to-work laws — which would allow workers to exempt themselves from joining a union or paying its fees — as well as last year's Supreme Court decision, in Janus v. AFSCME, which said mandatory public union fees violated the First Amendment.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., a fellow 2020 contender, also said in April that he would work to ban right-to-work laws, which exist in 26 states.

Either could face off against President Trump, whom many saw as a more appealing candidate for workers and labor unions given his stances on immigration and trade.

Trump has praised the Janus decision, describing it as a "Big loss for the coffers of the Democrats!"
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And during his 2016 campaign, Trump supported right-to-work legislation

"We've had great support from [union] workers, the people that work, the real workers, but I love the right to work," he said. "I like it better because it is lower. It is better for the people," he added.

Teh One Who Knocks
05-01-2019, 02:19 PM
Molly Prince | Politics Reporter - The Daily Caller


https://i.imgur.com/Ic2oUXBl.jpg

Democratic presidential candidate Kirsten Gillibrand revealed a plan Wednesday that would give every voter in the U.S. up to $600 to donate to political candidates running for federal office.

“If you want to accomplish anything that the American people want us to accomplish — whether it’s health care as a right, better public schools, better economy — you have to take on the greed and corruption that determine everything in Washington,” Gillibrand told NBC News.

The proposal, which the New York senator referred to as her “Clean Elections Plan,” is her first major policy initiative since announcing her bid for the presidency in January. The idea is purportedly to reduce the influence of big money in politics by giving voters “Democracy Dollars.”

The “Clean Elections Plan” would provide every eligible voter the ability to register for vouchers to donate a total maximum of $600 per election cycle; participants would be able to donate up to $100 in a primary election and $100 in a general election for House, Senate and presidential races, according to NBC News. The “Democracy Dollars” could only go toward elections in a voter’s state, however, they could donate to congressional races outside their own district.

Politicians would be required to forgo any donations larger than $200 per donor in order to participate in the “Clean Elections Plan.”

“[Candidates] would campaign in all communities,” Gillibrand said. “They would be going to low-income communities, they would be going to rural communities, they would be asking people to support them not only with a vote, but with (financial) support for their campaign.”

Gillibrand announced in February that her presidential campaign wanted to “reduce the influence of money in politics,” so she would not be accepting PAC money. Interestingly, she excluded political action committee money from labor unions in her pledge.

Teh One Who Knocks
05-01-2019, 05:23 PM
So how does this proposal work? Is she taking money from taxpayers to give out to everyone, regardless if they paid taxes or not, so they can give taxpayer money to a political candidate of their choice?

What an asinine thing to come out with as your first official policy.

perrhaps
05-02-2019, 08:41 AM
So how does this proposal work? Is she taking money from taxpayers to give out to everyone, regardless if they paid taxes or not, so they can give taxpayer money to a political candidate of their choice?

What an asinine thing to come out with as your first official policy.

Stay tuned. She'll propose worse than this.

Teh One Who Knocks
05-13-2019, 10:30 AM
By Ryan Gaydos | Fox News


Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., said Saturday she feels like she’s being underestimated in the race for the Democratic nomination for president, who will likely go up against President Trump in 2020.

Gillibrand is one of nearly two dozen major candidates who have declared their intention to run for president. She spoke about her campaign during her trip to New Hampshire.

“I think it's just gender bias. I think people are generally biased against women. I think also biased against young women,” she said in an interview, according to CNN. “There's just bias and it's real and it exists, but you have to overcome it.”

Gillibrand added that one of the ways for her, or any woman, to get a shot at the nomination is if the voters “get to know her.” There are six major female candidates in the Democratic field, including Gillibrand.

“Voters will give a woman a shot. They just have to get to know her,” she said, according to CNN. “They might make a judgment without knowing her, but once they meet her and know who she is and why she's running, it will give her that opportunity.”

Gillibrand added: “If I'm going to be the candidate of the women's vote, which I fully intend to be, those voters might not come home until October or November or December.”

The senator also took a jab at the Democratic National Committee’s rules that a candidate must 65,000 donors in order to get into the first and second debates.

“That's an odd measurable,” she said. “Like, why do you make that your measurable as opposed to have you won elections before and have you ever run statewide before and how many votes have you gotten before and have you passed legislation and are you effective in your job?”

She went onto the call the rule “random and inaccurate” though admitted that she has to follow and play by the committee’s rules.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-10-2019, 11:29 AM
By Ryan Saavedra - the Daily Wire


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Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) had an awkward moment in Cedar Rapids on Sunday at the Iowa Democratic Party's Hall of Fame event when he appeared to expect applause from the audience and didn't get one.

"We need a president who lives like you live, we need a president that has the grit that you have, and we have a president right now that doesn't understand the dreams that you have," Swalwell said. "I will be that president because I have lived that struggle and I know how hard you work and what you expect it to add up to."

"But I will always be real with you," Swalwell continued. "I will be bold without the bull."

Swalwell paused, appearing to expect a round of applause from the audience.

The crowd was totally silent.

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Swalwell, who is polling at 0% in the polls, has made his campaign's primary message that, if elected, he will confiscate semi-automatic firearms from law-abiding Americans.

Senior White House Adviser Kellyanne Conway responded by writing on Twitter: "He literally doesn't register in these latest #polls, either. A few candidates are at less than 1%. Swalwell is at less than less than 1%"

Many on social media were quick to point out that Swalwell's awkward moment was similar to Jeb Bush's "please clap" moment during the 2016 presidential race.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-17-2019, 11:18 AM
By Haris Alic - Breitbart


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Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) is surging ahead of the Democrat’s first presidential primary debate.
Two polls released on Sunday confirm Warren has momentum going into the first 2020 Democrat debate, scheduled for June 26 and June 27. The news comes after a week of polls showing Warren jumping over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) into second place behind the current frontrunner, former Vice President Joe Biden.

A CBS News survey of the 18 states that make up the primary calendar through Super Tuesday, including the early contests of Iowa and New Hampshire, shows Warren in second place behind the Democrat frontrunner, Joe Biden.

When respondents were asked which candidates they were considering supporting — and given the option of choosing more than one — Biden took a majority with 55 percent. Warren was not far behind with 49 percent, followed by Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) with 45 percent, and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) with 43 percent.

The second place showing seems to indicate Warren is viewed as an overall more acceptable nominee if Biden falters.

When respondents were asked which candidate they would vote for if their state’s primary or caucus was held today, Biden led by 31 percent. Warren at 17 percent narrowly edged out Sanders, who was at 16 percent. Harris trailed in fourth place with ten percent.

CBS also translated each candidate’s preference with voters into convention delegates. Unsurprisingly, Biden led with 733 delegates to Warren’s 355 and Sanders’ 317. Although Biden led in the hypothetical delegate count, no candidate comes close to the 1,885 threshold that would be required for the nomination.

The results were obtained by YouGov after surveying 16,624 registered voters between May 31 through June 12. YouGov included respondents from the 18 states currently scheduled to hold primaries and caucuses in 2020. The sample size took account for “gender, age, race, and education” based on data from the U.S. Census Bureau and the 2016 presidential election.

The CBS survey mirrors a poll released this week by The Economist and YouGov showing that Warren has overtaken Sanders nationally for second place behind Biden.

Warren’s momentum is only underscored by new numbers out of South Carolina. A poll released by Change Research and The Post and Courier on Sunday indicates Warren has slid firmly into second place in the Palmetto State. Change Research found Biden leading the field with 37 percent, Warren in second place with 17 percent, and Pete Buttigieg in third at 11 percent. Harris and Sanders tied for fourth place with nine percent each.

The poll, conducted between June 11 through June 14 by surveying 2,312 registered voters, has a margin or error of +/- 2 percent.

The results bode well for Warren but less so for Biden and Sanders. Both men dropped significantly — Biden by nine points and Sanders by six — among South Carolina voters since Change Research’s similar poll conducted in May. Warren, meanwhile, rose nine points from fourth place since last month.

South Carolina, which has its primary directly before Super Tuesday, is considered a bellwether in the race for the Democrat nomination. Carrying the state and its large black American population signals that a candidate has strength among a core constituency of the Democrat Party — a lesson Sanders learned all too well in 2016 when he lost the state’s primary by more than 47 percentage points and faced calls to exit the race.

The Change Research poll shows Biden leading among South Carolina’s black voters by a hefty margin of 52 percent. Surprisingly, though, Warren was ranked second place, followed by Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) and Buttigieg, among the important demographic. Sanders, who has sunk time and resources into courting South Carolina’s black community to avenge his 2016 performance, was in fifth place narrowly ahead of Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ).

Among white voters, Biden’s lead in South Carolina is much narrower. The former vice president (28 percent) leads Warren (20 percent) by single digits, with Buttigieg (17 percent) and Sanders (11 percent) following behind.

Other polls released in the last week also show Warren surging into second place behind Biden in early caucus states like Nevada and delegate-rich Super Tuesday battlegrounds like California.

On the campaign trail, Warren has attempted to downplay her campaign’s surging momentum.

“It’s way too early to talk about polls,” Warren told reporters after an event on Saturday in Charleston, South Carolina. “What are we, eight months away from the first caucuses and primary elections?”

“I’m out there doing what I believe in,” she added. “I get a chance to talk about what’s broken in America, how we can fix it, and build a grassroots movement to get that done. And I get to do it every day.”

Not only is Warren rising in the polls, but her campaign is also garnering increased media attention. An analysis by FiveThirtyEight shows the number of times Warren has been mentioned on CNN, FOX News, and MSNBC has grown exponentially. Starting in the last week of May, Warren has overtaken Sanders as the second most mentioned candidate. Warren held the title, despite a small decrease, during the first week of June.

Throughout the same time period, Biden continued to dominate the cable networks. Since jumping into the race in April, the former vice president has received more mentions than all of the other 2020 Democrats combined. The extensive coverage, however, has not always been positive.

Although Biden garnered the most media mentions in the first week of June, the coverage was heavily colored by his flip-flop on the Hyde Amendment and revelations that his campaign reportedly plagiarized portions of its plan to tackle climate change.

In comparison, most of Warren’s coverage has centered around her ever-expanding list of detailed policy proposals. One such proposal, which was noted for its similarity to President Donald Trump’s economic nationalism, seems to have coincided directly with Warren’s rise.

It is unclear if Warren will continue surging after the first primary debate.

Unlike other candidates polling near the frontrunner, Warren will not be on the same debate stage as Biden. Instead, due to a random drawing, Warren will be debating candidates averaging less than four percent in the polls — former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-TX) and Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) — and those registering around or below one percent — Rep. Tim Ryan (D-OH) and Gov. Jay Inslee (D-WA).

Teh One Who Knocks
06-18-2019, 02:28 PM
So is this going to be a trend like it was back during the republican primaries back in 2016? Every other week a new candidate will surge in the polls and then ultimately fade back down?

RBP
06-18-2019, 02:53 PM
So is this going to be a trend like it was back during the republican primaries back in 2016? Every other week a new candidate will surge in the polls and then ultimately fade back down?

It will interesting. The loud mouths are driving hard left, the wannabes are following. The moderate Biden is AWOL and leading. It's hard to follow.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-18-2019, 02:56 PM
It will interesting. The loud mouths are driving hard left, the wannabes are following. The moderate Biden is AWOL and leading. It's hard to follow.

I can't believe we haven't really seen anyone drop out yet, just more and more climbing on the wagon to get a shot at Trump.

RBP
06-18-2019, 03:00 PM
I can't believe we haven't really seen anyone drop out yet, just more and more climbing on the wagon to get a shot at Trump.

Debates June 26/27. You might see some purge begin after that.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-18-2019, 03:02 PM
Debates June 26/27. You might see some purge begin after that.

I don't even know how they're going to run that debate, something like 20 candidates have qualified to be on stage for it. :shakehead:

RBP
06-18-2019, 03:03 PM
I don't even know how they're going to run that debate, something like 20 candidates have qualified to be on stage for it. :shakehead:

Two days, 10 each day.

http://i68.tinypic.com/fyon0n.jpg

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/us/politics/democratic-debates-2020.html

Teh One Who Knocks
06-18-2019, 03:17 PM
I can already hear the whining now that Candidate A wanted to be on the same stage as Candidate B but they were instead put on the wrong day of the debate.

RBP
06-18-2019, 03:18 PM
I can already hear the whining now that Candidate A wanted to be on the same stage as Candidate B but they were instead put on the wrong day of the debate.

Of course.. from the moment it was released. :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
06-18-2019, 03:23 PM
Of course.. from the moment it was released. :lol:

The whining will mostly come from the ones on the 1st night, other than 1 or 2 of them, they are mostly the nobodies. The bigger names are all on the 2nd night.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-24-2019, 01:47 PM
Reuters News Service


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Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke on Monday proposed taxing affluent American families who do not have members in the U.S. military as a way to fund healthcare for veterans.

The former congressman from Texas unveiled a plan for military veterans that includes a “war tax,” in which taxpayers who earn over $200,000 a year would pay $1,000 in a new tax for each war embarked on by the United States.

O’Rourke, who did not serve in the military but sat on the House of Representatives Armed Services and Veterans’ Affairs committees, said the tax would be levied on households without current members of the U.S. military or military veterans. He did not specify what types of war, or the scale and origins of the wars, on which the tax would be levied.

The money raised from the war tax would be deposited into a newly created Veterans Health Care Trust Fund, which would be created at the start of each new war and be used to support veterans’ healthcare, disability and other medical needs when they return from conflict, O’Rourke said.

The proposal was part of a broader plan by O’Rourke, who has struggled to gain traction in opinion polls among Democratic contenders, to improve services for military veterans. He also urged an end to “wars in Iraq and Afghanistan,” and reinvestment of the savings in veterans programs.

The military has about 1.36 million active-duty members out of a total U.S. population of some 327 million people. The country’s armed forces have been all-volunteer since the military draft ended in 1973 as the United States wound down its involvement in the Vietnam War.

In language borrowed from former Democratic President John F. Kennedy, O’Rourke said Americans must be “willing to pay any price, and bear any burden” to provide care, support and resources to all veterans. He called for ending the “blank check for endless war” waged by the United States and to invest spending on the care of those who had served in armed conflicts.

O’Rourke, 46, launched his presidential bid in March after rising to national prominence last year when he narrowly lost his bid to defeat Republican U.S. Senator Ted Cruz in Texas. His national support among likely Democratic primary voters is currently around 4 percent.

(Reporting by Tim Reid in South Bend, Indiana; Editing by Peter Cooney)

Griffin
06-24-2019, 02:01 PM
I propose a "Stupid idea tax" to be placed on politicians.

RBP
06-24-2019, 02:30 PM
National
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Iowa
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New Hampshire
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RBP
06-24-2019, 02:32 PM
http://i68.tinypic.com/rruqgl.jpg

Teh One Who Knocks
06-24-2019, 02:45 PM
Rachel Maddow as a moderator :facepalm:

Teh One Who Knocks
06-26-2019, 11:53 AM
By Nate Church - Brietbart


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On Tuesday, Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren reportedly joined Democratic rival Julian Castro in advocating for the decriminalization of illegal border crossing.
“We should not be criminalizing mamas and babies trying to flee violence at home or trying to build a better future,” Warren told the Huffington Post. “We must pass comprehensive immigration reform that is in line with our values, creates a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants including our DREAMers, and protects our borders.”

Fellow presidential hopeful Julian Castro drew attention in April when he began advocating for the repeal of Section 1325. “This was an idea championed by immigration activists and experts for some time,” Castro spokesperson Sawyer Hackett tweeted, “but not adopted by mainstream political leaders until Julian Castro‘s People First Immigration platform.”
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The former San Antonio mayor added his own voice, thanking Warren for “joining him” on the matter. “We shouldn’t criminalize depseration,” he added. “It’s time to repeal this terrible law.”
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“Every candidate will call for ending family separation,” Hackett said. “This is the only way to guarantee it.”

Muddy
06-26-2019, 12:30 PM
Two days, 10 each day.

http://i68.tinypic.com/fyon0n.jpg

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/us/politics/democratic-debates-2020.html

Now thats a crowded field..! It's like 'American Idol'.. Or maybe 'American Stupid'.. :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
06-26-2019, 12:37 PM
I expect that crowd will REALLY start to thin out after the debates.

Muddy
06-26-2019, 12:43 PM
I'm not watching any of them, but I love that they are going to consume each other shortly..

Teh One Who Knocks
06-26-2019, 12:54 PM
Yeah, I doubt I will watch any of them either. I have better things to do than hear about how horrible our country is and how Trump is literally Hitler. They will all be spouting the same talking points and be seeing who can say the most outrageous plan that they have to "fix" the country.

Besides, with 10 people on the stage, is anyone actually going to be able to say anything that isn't more than just a sound bite?

PorkChopSandwiches
06-26-2019, 04:09 PM
Plus the first one only has one hopeful...and I dont think she really has a chance. So who gives a shit, the next one I may watch

PorkChopSandwiches
06-26-2019, 04:11 PM
National
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Iowa
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New Hampshire
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Looks like a made a solid bet in the vbookie

RBP
07-02-2019, 01:02 AM
https://i.imgur.com/57kcDn2.jpg

Teh One Who Knocks
07-02-2019, 10:11 AM
I highly doubt that anyone polling at or around 1% out of the democrat contenders will win the nomination.

DemonGeminiX
07-02-2019, 10:36 AM
As of yesterday, according to RealClearPolitics.com, the CNN Democratic primary poll is as follows:

Biden: 22
Sanders: 14
Warren: 15
Harris: 17
Buttigieg: 4
O'Rourke: 3
Booker: 3
Yang: 1
Gabbard: 1
Klobuchar: 2
Castro: 1
de Blasio: 1
Bullock: 1

The Hill/Harris X poll is as follows:

Biden: 33
Sanders: 15
Warren: 9
Harris: 11
Buttigieg: 6
O'Rourke: 4
Booker: 2
Yang: 1
Gabbard: 1
Klobuchar: 0
Castro: 1
de Blasio: 0
Bullock: 1

The current RCP poll average is as follows:

Biden: 29.9
Sanders: 17.0
Warren: 13.4
Harris: 10.0
Buttigieg: 6.0
O'Rourke: 2.6
Booker: 2.3
Yang: 1.3
Gabbard: 1.0
Klobuchar: 0.7
Castro: 0.7
de Blasio: 0.6
Bullock: 0.6
Gillibrand: 0.6
Gravel: 0.4
Ryan: 0.3
Moulton: 0.3
Bennet: 0.3
Inslee: 0.3
Delaney: 0.1

Hickenlooper, Sestak, Swalwell, Messam, and Williamson aren't listed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#Decla red_candidates

Teh One Who Knocks
07-02-2019, 10:47 AM
ABC News is reporting that a bunch of Hickenlooper's staff is quitting. Not surprising, I really doubt that anyone outside of Colorado really even knows who he is.

DemonGeminiX
07-02-2019, 11:04 AM
ABC News is reporting that a bunch of Hickenlooper's staff is quitting. Not surprising, I really doubt that anyone outside of Colorado really even knows who he is.

We know who he is. I do recall you bitching about him on occasion. And I saw that one or two of his campaign people are joining Beto's campaign?

Teh One Who Knocks
07-02-2019, 11:05 AM
We know who he is. I do recall you bitching about him on occasion. And I saw that one or two of his campaign people are joining Beto's campaign?

No, I don't mean people here at the forum :lol: I mean the general populace as a whole. And yep, that's what ABC news is reporting.

RBP
07-02-2019, 11:09 AM
I highly doubt that anyone polling at or around 1% out of the democrat contenders will win the nomination.#YangGang

Low odds, but I am not counting Yang out yet because his message is completely different.

DemonGeminiX
07-02-2019, 11:10 AM
#YangGang

What is your fascination with this asshole?

RBP
07-02-2019, 11:20 AM
What is your fascination with this asshole?He's not an asshole at all, counter to the vast majority of the field. His approach is the opposite, isn't going to play the gender/racial politics game most of the rest are. His message and priorities are completely different than the rest and his base is a broad cross section of the political spectrum. If anyone can break out from the bottom, it's Yang. He's one of the few capitalists and interesting to watch.

DemonGeminiX
07-02-2019, 11:39 AM
He's not an asshole at all, counter to the vast majority of the field. His approach is the opposite, isn't going to play the gender/racial politics game most of the rest are. His message and priorities are completely different than the rest and his base is a broad cross section of the political spectrum. If anyone can break out from the bottom, it's Yang. He's one of the few capitalists and interesting to watch.

I'm at his website and I'm looking through some of his platforms. Of course, the first one I notice is gun control. He says "subject to licensing and education" to continue to enjoy our constitutionally protected natural right to keep and bear arms? No.

I could go down the list and list out every problem I have with his positions, but I'd be turning this into a "why RBP is wrong and Yang is indeed an asshole" thread. I'd rather not.

Teh One Who Knocks
07-02-2019, 11:43 AM
I'm at his website and I'm looking through some of his platforms. Of course, the first one I notice is gun control. He says "subject to licensing and education" to continue to enjoy our constitutionally protected natural right to keep and bear arms? No.

I could go down the list and list out every problem I have with his positions, but I'd be turning this into a "why RBP is wrong and Yang is indeed an asshole" thread. I'd rather not.

I've been to his website before too, because of RBP. I do concede that he does have some decent ideas for some issues. But then he goes and ruins that with some way out there whackadoodle ideas that completely undermines his credibility (IMHO).

DemonGeminiX
07-02-2019, 12:34 PM
I've been to his website before too, because of RBP. I do concede that he does have some decent ideas for some issues. But then he goes and ruins that with some way out there whackadoodle ideas that completely undermines his credibility (IMHO).

There are a few things that seem like good ideas on their face, but they also seem like for those things to work, liberties must be surrendered. Other things aren't within the scope of Presidential power. But that's common with all Presidential candidates, now isn't it? Promise things they have no ability nor legal or constitutional authority to accomplish.

Teh One Who Knocks
07-02-2019, 09:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI3e7GUWPIA

DemonGeminiX
07-02-2019, 10:13 PM
It's your party, Tulsi. You had to know that there would be shenanigans considering what went down in 2016.

RBP
07-02-2019, 11:39 PM
I've been to his website before too, because of RBP. I do concede that he does have some decent ideas for some issues. But then he goes and ruins that with some way out there whackadoodle ideas that completely undermines his credibility (IMHO).


There are a few things that seem like good ideas on their face, but they also seem like for those things to work, liberties must be surrendered. Other things aren't within the scope of Presidential power. But that's common with all Presidential candidates, now isn't it? Promise things they have no ability nor legal or constitutional authority to accomplish.

The interviews are far better explanations then the position statements. Shapiro, Rogan.. but there are a bunch.

I don't agree with him on a lot of things also. All I am saying is he is off the path and on a better path than the rest of the field. He is also addressing something huge (AI/Automation and massive job eliminations) that no other candidate is touching.

Teh One Who Knocks
07-08-2019, 11:01 AM
By Ashe Schow - The Daily Wire


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Democrats are falling over themselves trying to show who is the most authoritative by announcing what they would issue an executive order on as soon as they take office, if they’re elected.

For Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), she has vowed to tackle the mythical gender wage gap and a lack of diversity in the workplace. Despite the fact the country has focused relentlessly on diversity for the past few decades, non-white’s still aren’t adequately represented in many industries and in leadership positions. People like Warren see systemic racism as the reason. Others may think there are not enough qualified applicants to fill those positions, possibly due to socioeconomic issues, rather than overt or covert racism.

Nevertheless, Warren is going to tackle this issue and the gender wage gap, which doesn’t actually exist. There is no “wage” gap. It’s an earnings gap between men and women and due to a variety of factors relating to different career choices between the sexes. When those factors are taken into account, the gap nearly vanishes and there is no evidence what remains is due to discrimination.

That is not to say that discrimination never happens. It surely does, yet the solutions proposed would do more to hurt women and businesses than help.

In a Medium post published Friday, Warren vowed to issue two executive orders upon taking office, one aimed at private sector companies seeking federal contracts and the other at diversifying the federal workforce. The first executive order she mentions would impose “new rules on companies that hope to receive federal contracts.” She would expand existing disclosure requirements to weed out companies “with poor track records on diversity and equal pay,” meaning companies that don’t hire enough people of color may not receive contracts. This may lead to “token” positions in order to receive contracts. Warren would also “ban companies that want federal contracts from using forced arbitration and non-compete clauses that restrict workers’ rights” and from asking salary history. This executive order would also require federal contractors pay a $15 minimum wage and benefits such as paid family leave, flexible hours, and collective bargaining rights.

The second executive order would require that employers “direct real resources towards attracting entry-level applicants from HBCUs, Tribal Colleges and Universities, and other minority-serving institutions,” even though Warren herself admitted that “black women are disproportionately represented in the federal workforce.” She would still impose recruitment policies because there are not enough Black women in leadership roles. This executive order would also divert funding toward paid fellowships for minorities who are underrepresented at specific government agencies. In addition, the executive order would require each federal agency to further diversify their workforce and provide mentorship programs to minorities, as if this doesn’t currently exist.

Finally, Warren said she would direct her Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to “closely monitor” sectors where minority women are overrepresented to enforce claims of discrimination.

“It will also issue first-of-its-kind guidance on enforcing claims involving the intersectional discrimination that women of color face from the interlocking biases of racism and sexism,” Warren said.

As a kicker, Warren included an asterisk about how currently available data “assumes a gender binary - but we know that peoples’ experiences aren’t.”

PorkChopSandwiches
07-08-2019, 04:46 PM
So many fucktards

DemonGeminiX
07-08-2019, 11:25 PM
Eric "Nuke-all-gun-owners" Swalwell has dropped out of the race.

DemonGeminiX
07-09-2019, 03:49 PM
Billionaire Tom Steyer, who has called for President Trump's impeachment, has officially entered the race for the 2020 Presidential Democratic candidacy, after saying earlier that he would not run.

Teh One Who Knocks
07-15-2019, 10:17 AM
By Virginia Kruta - The Daily Caller


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Democratic Washington Governor and 2020 presidential hopeful Jay Inslee announced Saturday that, if elected, he would choose Megan Rapinoe to be his secretary of state.

“My first act would be to ask Megan Rapinoe to be my secretary of state,” Inslee said at the progressive Netroots Nation conference in Philadelphia, according to The Hill. “I haven’t asked her yet, so it could be a surprise to her.”

Inslee went on to say that he believed Rapinoe’s message was so inspiring to people because it was the “antithesis” of President Donald Trump’s foreign policies.

Rapinoe, the soccer star who co-captained the U.S. National Women’s Team to a repeat World Cup victory, has been making headlines of her own lately as she continues to protest the national anthem and attack Trump.

She and teammate Allie Long caught backlash immediately following their World Cup win when video showed them dropping an American flag on the ground while they posed for postage photos. Fellow USWNT member Kelley O’Hara quickly rushed in to grab the flag off the ground.

RBP
07-15-2019, 11:08 AM
:facepalm:

RBP
07-15-2019, 11:10 AM
https://i.imgur.com/dPsWZmh.jpg

RBP
07-19-2019, 10:49 AM
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Teh One Who Knocks
07-26-2019, 11:10 AM
By ALLUM BOKHARI - Breitbart


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Presidential candidate and military veteran Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) is suing Google after the tech giant blocked her ads account shortly after the first Democrat presidential debate, when Gabbard became the most-searched-for candidate in the Democrat field.

Gabbard’s complaint accuses Google of censoring the candidate at the very moment when millions of Americans wanted to learn more about her. It also accuses Google of sending Gabbard’s campaign emails to people’s Gmail spam folders at a “disproportionately high rate.”

The campaign seeks a legal injunction against Google to prevent further election meddling, as well as $50 million in damages.

Via Gabbard’s legal complaint against Google:


At the height of Gabbard’s popularity among Internet searchers in the immediate hours after the debate ended, and in the thick of the critical post-debate period (when television viewers, radio listeners, newspaper read-ers, and millions of other Americans are discussing and searching for presidential candidates), Google suspended Tulsi’s Google Ads account without warning.

For hours, as millions of Americans searched Google for information about Tulsi, and as Tulsi was trying, through Google, to speak to them, her Google Ads account was arbitrarily and forcibly taken offline. Throughout this period, the Campaign worked frantically to gather more information about the suspension; to get through to someone at Google who could get the Account back online; and to understand and remedy the restraint that had been placed on Tulsi’s speech—at precisely the moment when everyone wanted to hear from her.

The Gabbard campaign’s legal complaint cites Breitbart News reporting to highlight Google’s interference in the democratic process. The complaint cites the Google Tape, an hour-long recording of Google executives’ reactions to the 2016 general election obtained by this reporter and published by Breitbart News last September, and Google employees’ campaign to ban Breitbart from Google Ads, an effort that was revealed by Breitbart News last year.

The legal complaint argues that Google could have a nefarious impact on American democracy if its behavior is allowed to continue unchecked. This is the viewpoint of Dr. Robert Epstein, who says the Silicon Valley Masters of the Universe will “go all out” to influence the 2020 election.

In a series of Tweets, the Hawaii Democrat said Google’s actions “reveals the danger of their dominance & how the dominance of big tech over public discourse threatens core American values.”
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According to the complaint, “Google could unilaterally and decisively end a presidential candidate’s bid for office if it chose to, for example by tweaking its search algorithm to disfavor the candidate; or blocking the candidate from its ad platforms; or keeping the candidate’s communications from getting to interested voters who use Gmail for email communications.”

DemonGeminiX
07-26-2019, 12:48 PM
I don't disagree with her here. It's been leaked that they attempted to do the same thing in 2016.

Teh One Who Knocks
07-26-2019, 02:22 PM
I don't disagree with her here. It's been leaked that they attempted to do the same thing in 2016.

What I don't like is the hypocrisy. Not necessarily on her part, but on the democrats as a whole. When Google purposely uses its algorithms to filter negative results for Trump to the top, it's all good and Trump is just a paranoid. But when it happens to a democrat, then it becomes major news. Like you though, I don't disagree with her and she's probably the only (IMHO) more level headed candidates on the democrat side.

Teh One Who Knocks
07-31-2019, 10:27 AM
By Dan Gainor | Fox News Opinion


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It wasn’t the debate result many in the media wanted. Author Marianne Williamson was the surprise star of a debate where she had very little time compared to her opponents – less than half that of the big-name candidates.

Williamson’s debate strategy was to push for “radical truth-telling.” This included a call for up to $500 billion in reparations for African-Americans and some tough talk about the Flint, Michigan, water crisis that won her loud support in the Detroit audience.

New York Times reporter Katie Benner pointed out how Williamson used Flint “to tackle the issue of racism head on.”

Los Angeles Times National Correspondent Matt Pearce described Williamson as “often a much more skilled communicator than most of the other politicians on the stage.”

It showed.

Williamson scored big online as a result. She was only the top-searched candidate in two states before the debate, according to Google Trends. Afterward, she was the top Googled candidate in all but Montana. That’s about a 2,450 percent increase.

Williamson’s most memorable line of the night talked about the failure of “this wonkiness” to combat “this dark psychic force of the collectivized hatred that this president is bringing up in this country.” While the comment was mocked by some on Twitter, it also resonated.

Vanity Fair reporter Tina Nguyen joked: “Next debate: ‘Show of hands, who pledges on this stage to be against dark psychic forces.’”

New York Times columnist Ross Douthat criticized CNN’s handling of Williamson. “CNN obviously spooked by the ‘oops, we made Trump president’ experience into not giving Williamson the space and air she deserves,” he commented.

Comedian Sarah Silverman summed up a lot of the positive and negative comments at once, noting of Williamson: “She may be granola whacky but she’s right.”

Not everyone was happy about Williamson’s success. Vox Senior Correspondent Zack Beauchamp said she “is funny in isolation but when you think about it for more than two seconds her presence on this stage is genuinely disturbing.”

New York Times White House Correspondent Annie Karni retweeted Breitbart Senior Editor-at-Large Joel Pollak’s comment about Williamson having a “strong night.” She added: “Trump supporters eager to keep Marianne-mentum going.”

And New York Daily News Opinion Editor Josh Greenman added: “Williamson should have revealed her heat vision and mind control superpowers.”

The Drudge Report ran it as “CLASH OF THE LIBS!” But unlike its major media competitors, Drudge also highlighted the rise of Williamson.

“WILLIAMSON WARNS OF 'DARK DAYS' FOR DEMS,” ran a Drudge headline. The site linked to two separate Williamson stories. And though it was a simple push poll, she also won the Drudge poll with 47 percent of online voters.

Major media focused on the divide between the left and the far left in the debate, especially when it came to “Medicare-for-all” and so-called free college. The Washington Post led its site with a piece headlined “Liberal-moderate divide emerges on core issues.”

The New York Times chose a similar headline: “Debate Highlights Rift Between Moderates and Progressives.”

Afterward, many showed their support for Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

MSNBC “AM Joy” host Joy Reid declared “nobody really laid a glove on her” in discussing Warren.

MSNBC host Chris Matthews depicted it as the Sanders and Warren vs. everyone else. “The people on the left were like Butch Cassidy in ‘The Sundance Kid.’ I mean, Warren and Bernie were basically covering each other as they fought off everyone else. It was interesting to watch,” Matthews said.

CNN Criticized over Debate

Liberals were particularly unhappy with how CNN handled the debate. And there was a lot of reason. The distribution of time was so biased as to be ridiculous.

The New York Times tallied Warren having 18 minutes 33 seconds and Sanders close behind with 17:45. Compare that to Williamson, whose 8:52 edged out former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper’s 8:49 at the bottom.

It was reminiscent of concerns about the first two debates, where NBC broke its own rules to let Sen. Kamala Harris of California attack former Vice President Joe Biden over busing. Add to that controversy that at least 12 executives at either NBCUniversal or its parent company Comcast donated to the Harris campaign prior to the debate.

There was a great deal of online criticism about how much focus former Rep. John Delaney of Maryland received. Vox Senior Correspondent Matthew Yglesias argued that “these random nobodies” like Delaney were serving as proxies for Biden.

Jon Ralston, the editor of The Nevada Independent, said: “Who had ‘John Delaney speaks more than most of the candidates’ in the pool?”

And MSNBC contributor Sam Seder asked: “Why is John Delaney getting any questions? This is absurd.”

But the result was also what many considered the line of the night from Warren responding to Delaney: “You know, I don't understand why anybody goes to all the trouble of running for president of the United States just to talk about what we really can't do and shouldn't fight for.”

Hackers even broke into Delaney’s Wikipedia profile afterward and declared him dead as of that moment, at Warren’s hands.

Time was part of another criticism. The evening began as the cross-talk debate. Moderator Jake Tapper fought repeatedly with desperate candidates who were trying to get their two cents in.

Washington Post humor columnist Gene Weingarten commented: “It's nuts giving the benchwarmers equal time.”

And Washington Post opinion writer Alyssa Rosenberg said: “The moderators are the big losers here, so far.”

Sanders even called out Tapper at one point after a question about “whether the middle class should pay higher taxes in exchange for universal coverage and the elimination of insurance premiums.”

“Your question is a Republican talking point,” Sanders said to Tapper.

CNN Set the Agenda

It was a foregone conclusion that CNN would help the debates take a left turn. This was evident when moderator Don Lemon asked Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota: “… what do you say to those Trump voters who prioritize the economy over the president's bigotry?”

The network included Lemon, who is both openly liberal and anti-Trump, as one of its debate moderators. Lemon has shown his biases so many times it’s almost hilarious. He has bashed Trump and his supporters, defended Antifa, and compared Trump to Adolf Hitler.

Lemon even admitted he doesn’t want “to be ‘fair and balanced.’”

“My thing is about accuracy and the truth,” Lemon told the Dallas Voice. “Just because someone has another point of view or opinion, I don’t believe in false fairness. I just believe in the truth.”

McClatchy said that CNN President Jeff Zucker “has a longstanding personal rule against supporting politicians” and “He’s broken it once – for Kamala Harris.” That was when Harris “ran to become the first woman of color to hold the office of California attorney general a decade ago.”

But there was more to it than that. The Associated Press reported that “CNN pledges not to ask questions that require a show of hands by the politicians or that confine all the contenders to a one-word ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answer.”

That strategy could have easily been used to get some of the candidates on the record on issues they dodged. But that would have hurt them, so it wasn’t done.

DemonGeminiX
07-31-2019, 11:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGKNaIXtBZQ

Teh One Who Knocks
08-01-2019, 10:35 AM
By Douglas E. Schoen | Fox News Opinion


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Former Vice President Joe Biden dominated the debate stage and weathered the attacks of nine opponents for the Democratic presidential nomination Wednesday night, emerging the clear winner and standing by his promise not be “overly polite.”

In possibly the most contentious Democratic primary debate thus far, frontrunners Biden and Sen. Kamala Harris of California sparred with each other and the other candidates over the issues of health care, immigration, race relations and climate change.

Following Harris’ and Biden’s heated exchange over busing to achieve school integration in the first debate, Biden was far more aggressive than in his previous debate performance in responding to attacks from every candidate on stage.

The former vice president delivered his message compellingly and convincingly. Even during his less strong moments, Biden remained the focal point of the conversation, speaking for over 21 minutes – more than any other candidate on stage.

On health care, in particular, Biden displaying his in-depth policy knowledge while also rebutting repeated attacks from Harris. Biden gave a strong defense of his pragmatic plan to strengthen ObamaCare, while the confusion and lack of clarity around Harris’ plan hindered her position.

Biden also successfully took aim at what he has called Harris’ “have it every which way approach.”

Health care “is the single most important issue facing the public,” Biden said to Harris. “To be very blunt ... you can't beat President Trump with doubletalk on this plan.”

Darkhorse candidate New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio focused his efforts on attacking Biden directly, particularly during the discussions over immigration and race relations. But the attacks failed to create the searing moment that de Blasio had hoped for and did not seem to damage Biden in any meaningful way.

On another front, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii scored points against Harris while addressing criminal justice reform and race. Gabbard took aim at the racial implications of Harris’ tough-on-crime record as a California attorney general, leaving Harris without a rebuttal on an issue that the senator commanded during the last debate.

Gabbard told Harris: “When you were in a position to make a difference and an impact in these people's lives, you did not and worse yet in the case of those who are on death row, you blocked evidence from being revealed that would have freed them until you were forced to do so.”

“There's no excuse for that and the people who suffered under your reign as prosecutor, you owe them an apology,” Gabbard added.

At best, Harris met expectations but fell short of being the focal point of the night as she was at the debate last month.

The only substantive losers were minor candidates such as Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York and Washington Gov. Jay Inslee. Both have consistently polled at or below the 2 percent threshold and did not get the debate moment that they likely needed to enhance their candidacies in order to qualify for the next round of debates.

Although businessman Andrew Yang did not have a resounding debate moment, the universal-basic-income advocate will likely still secure a spot in the fall debates due to the strength of his grassroots support.

Moreover, despite Biden’s strong performance and solid frontrunner status, it is clear that the party has seismically shifted away from the centrist Democratic Party of the 1990’s, making his path to the nomination far from certain.

Though Biden controlled this debate in many ways, his two leading opponents were absent from the stage of the CNN debate in Detroit. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, both competing for the support of the far left, debated Tuesday night.

Under attack for being too moderate, Biden delivered a powerful response when asked how he can appeal to progressives in the Democratic Party. He drew on his past success in winning elections and scoring major achievements in governing during his long career and emphasized his clear appeal to Midwest and working-class voters.

“I was asked to manage an $87 billion plan that would be spent in a total of 18 months that revived this state and many others … and it kept us out of a depression,” Biden said, referring to his work as vice president to help the auto industry and the country as a whole climb out of the Great Recession shortly after he took office with former President Barack Obama.

Biden said he led the economic recovery effort with just a fraction of 1 percent waste or fraud, “and our administration pushed bailing General Motors out saving tens of thousands of jobs here in this state.”

Ultimately, the strength of Biden’s performance made it clear that he is prepared to combine the policy knowledge and experience necessary to take on President Trump and potentially win in November 2020. He clearly remains the candidate who will be tough to beat for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-01-2019, 10:38 AM
By Lukas Mikelionis | Fox News


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Sen. Kamala Harris mocked 2020 opponent Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, after the lawmaker from Hawaii slammed the Californian's record as a prosecutor on the presidential debate stage Wednesday.

Harris claimed it was a case of a “top-tier candidate” being attacked by someone at “zero or 1 percent.”

During Wednesday's second Democratic debate in Detroit, Gabbard slammed Harris' controversial record as California’s attorney general, which included extensive prosecution of marijuana users -- even though Harris laughed about having consumed the drug herself in a recent radio interview.

“Sen. Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president, but I'm deeply concerned about this record,” Gabbard said. “There are too many examples to cite but she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.”

She also blasted Harris for maintaining the cash bail system which, she argued, disproportionately hurt poor people. Gabbard accused Harris of keeping prisoners beyond their sentence in order to use them as "cheap labor" as well as blocking evidence that would have "freed an innocent man from death row."

Harris later dismissed the attack after the debate during an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper.

“I'm obviously a top-tier candidate, and so I did expect that I would be on the stage and take hits tonight, because there are a lot of people who trying to make the stage for the next debate,” Harris said.


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“For a lot of them, it's do or die,” Cooper added.

“Well, yeah, and especially when people are at zero or 1 percent, or whatever she might be at, and so I did expect I might take hits tonight,” Harris said.

Harris went on offense against Gabbard, who also recently said Harris is unqualified to be commander-in-chief, saying Gabbard was an “apologist” for Syria's Bashar al-Assad, referring to her meeting with the dictator and previous claims that he’s not an enemy of the U.S.

“I can only take what she says and her opinion so seriously,” Harris said.

Gabbard, meanwhile, said “that’s not what this is about” after being asked to respond to Harris’ attacks on Wednesday and whether she thinks Assad is a “murderer.”

DemonGeminiX
08-01-2019, 10:54 AM
Gabbard served our country in the military, and Harris sucked Willie Brown's cock.

With those kind of records, I think I'd vote for Gabbard over Harris.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-01-2019, 11:54 AM
By RYAN SAAVEDRA - The Daily Wire


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Democrat presidential candidate Andrew Yang claimed without evidence on Wednesday night that "we're too late" in addressing climate change and that people need to be evacuated to higher ground immediately.

Yang began by highlighting a statistic that Joe Biden cited that the U.S. is responsible for only 15% of total global emissions and that even if the U.S. makes drastic changes in climate policy it is not going to do much in the grand scheme of things.

"This is going to be a tough truth but we are too late," Yang said. "We are 10 years too late. We need to do everything we can to start moving the climate in the right direction but also need to start moving our people to higher ground and the best way to do that is to put economic resources in your hands so you can protect yourself and your families."

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DemonGeminiX
08-01-2019, 11:56 AM
If we're too late, then there's no sense in talking about it, and much less sense in doing something about it.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-01-2019, 11:57 AM
I'm already safe, I'm a mile high and I'll watch the rest of you all drown :dance:

DemonGeminiX
08-01-2019, 11:59 AM
:hand:

You'll just starve to death slowly when all the food runs out.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-01-2019, 12:03 PM
How long can you tread water? :-s



:nana:

DemonGeminiX
08-01-2019, 12:05 PM
Everybody's got boats down here. I'll just hop a ride with a neighbor and bring a fishing pole.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-01-2019, 12:23 PM
Sorry...getting off track, this is an SD thread. :oops:

RBP
08-02-2019, 09:00 AM
I watched as much of that debate as I could take. It was (as expected) a shit show. Yang was the only one didn't argue like it was an anonymous internet flame thread, but the "higher ground" comment was his wtf moment.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-02-2019, 09:57 AM
I watched as much of that debate as I could take. It was (as expected) a shit show. Yang was the only one didn't argue like it was an anonymous internet flame thread, but the "higher ground" comment was his wtf moment.

Yeah, what on earth was he thinking? :shakehead:

Teh One Who Knocks
08-02-2019, 09:58 AM
By Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News


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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, slammed MSNBC during a contentious interview on the network, accusing an anchor of being fed "talking points" from her 2020 competitor, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif.

MSNBC anchor Yasmin Vossoughian pressed the congresswoman Thursday on her views on U.S. relations with Saudi Arabia as well as her January 2017 meeting with Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, which she defended by saying she would meet with any leader in pursuit of peace and the safety of Americans.

“When sitting down with someone like Bashar al-Assad in Syria, do you confront him directly and say why do you order chemical attacks on your own people?" Vossoughian asked.

"Why do you cause the killings of over half a million people in your country?"

"Look, I want to break this down to what we're talking about," Gabbard responded.

“It’s really a yes or no answer -- do you confront him or not?” Vossoughian continued.

The line of questioning didn't sit well with Gabbard, so much so that she suggested that MSNBC was teaming up a rival campaign.

“You’re talking about a meeting that took place, what, three years ago?” Gabbard shot back. “And every time I come back here on MSNBC, you guys talk to me about these issues, it sounds like these are talking points that Kamala Harris and her campaign are feeding you because she’s refusing to address the questions that were posed to her.”
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"It's not a talking point, Congresswoman, it's important," Vossoughian responded.

"It's important, I think, for the American people to have context about your foreign policy issues and where you stand. If you’re leading with foreign policy, a meeting with Bashar al-Assad which I’m sure you understand is a very controversial meeting to take, hence the reason why when you come on MSNBC, it is important to talk to you about it."

“Every single time for three years? This is where the propaganda comes in because I’ve talked about this a lot for the last three years,” Gabbard said. "I will not apologize to you or to anyone, anyone, for doing what I can, all that I can, to prevent our country from continuing the perpetual wrong decisions that have taken a toll on the lives of my brothers and sisters in uniform."

She added: “I will continue to do all that I can to make sure that we end these wasteful regime change wars that have taken such a toll on all of us and that have made our country less safe. And if that means having a meeting with a dictator, if that means trying to meet with Kim Jong-Un in North Korea to de-escalate tensions and remove this nuclear threat from our country and our people, whatever the crisis is.”

Teh One Who Knocks
08-05-2019, 12:06 PM
JOSH SANCHEZ - Coed.com


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One of the biggest shots landed during the CNN Democratic Debates came when Hawaii Representative Tulsi Gabbard went after California Congresswoman Kamala Harris over her record as a prosecutor. Gabbard hit Harris with some damning facts about incarceration for minor offenses while also bringing up concerns over blocking evidence for prisoners who were on death row.

As a result, #KamalaHarrisDestroyed became a trending topic on Twitter early Thursday morning.

The trend taking aim at Harris comes at a time when Gabbard was the most searched candidate from Wednesday night’s debate. Gabbard’s shining moment came during the exchange with Harris where she came prepared with the numbers.

“She put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana,” Gabbard said of Harris “She blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so. She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California.

“The bottom line is, Senator Harris, when you were in a position to make a difference and an impact in these people’s lives, you did not. And worse yet, in the case of those who were on death row, innocent people, you actually blocked evidence from being revealed that would have freed them until you were forced to do so.”

It was a strong moment for Gabbard, who is looking to break through and qualify for the September debates, but some pundits and social media commentators are questioning the authenticity of the #KamalaHarrisDestroyed hashtag.

As you might expect, some are claiming that the Russians are interfering and pushing propaganda to bring down Harris, who was one of the top candidates in the polls.

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Whether Gabbard is able to achieve the necessary requirements for the September debates remains to be seen, but she certainly has momentum in her corner. The next Democratic debates which require at least 2 percent in four national polls and 130,000 unique donors will be held on September 12 and September 13.

DemonGeminiX
08-14-2019, 04:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM-NC7UuNLo

Teh One Who Knocks
08-15-2019, 10:12 AM
By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News


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Facing the likelihood that he won’t make the stage at next month’s Democratic presidential debates, former two-term Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper will end his 2020 run for the White House on Thursday, a source close to him told the Associated Press.

Advisers close to Hickenlooper’s inner circle previously told Fox News that Hickenlooper was facing mounting national pressure to end his longshot bid for the White House and jump into Colorado's crowded Democratic U.S. Senate primary for the chance to face off next year against first-term GOP Sen. Cory Gardner.

Hickenlooper, 67, struggled to raise funding and his poll numbers as he pursued the Democratic Party's presidential nomination. Advisers reportedly say he'd be better off running against Gardner, a former two-term congressman who narrowly defeated incumbent Democratic Sen. Mark Udall in 2014. The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee views Gardner as vulnerable in 2020.

A Democratic source familiar with Hickenlooper’s recent conversations with Senate Democratic leadership regarding a potential Senate run told Fox News “the DSCC wants him to drop (his White House bid) and they want this recruit really badly.”

Hickenlooper, a geologist by training who started a successful brewery in downtown Denver and then served two terms as the city’s mayor before winning the governorship, left office in January with an approval rating nearly 20 percentage points above water.

A new poll in Colorado released this week suggested Hickenlooper would be far ahead of the rest of the already-crowded field of candidates for the Democratic Senate nomination if he were to join that race.

The source, who asked to remain anonymous in order to speak more freely, said that at a meeting in New York City earlier this month between Hickenlooper and Sen. Chuck Schumer, the top Democrat in the chamber, “Schumer made the point that if the governor were to run for the Senate, he would be a total hero. ... The governor could be the firewall between Mitch McConnell remaining as Senate majority leader and the Democrats taking back the Senate.”

A separate source, close to Hickenlooper’s inner circle, told Fox News that “everyone has come to him and said, ‘We need you, we need you, we need you,’ and I think the message of ‘You need to do this for the sake of the country’ resonates with him.”

Hickenlooper faced a large uphill climb to meet the two Democratic National Committee thresholds – campaign contributions from 130,000 individual donors and at least 2 percent in four qualifying polls – to make the stage at the next two debates, which will be held next month and in October.

And the clock’s ticking: He has just two weeks left to qualify for the September showdown.

Fox News also confirmed a New York Times report on Tuesday evening that Hickenlooper met privately with Sen. Michael Bennet of Colorado – a rival for the Democratic presidential nomination – when the two crossed paths while campaigning in Iowa over the past week. Aides to both campaigns have been tight-lipped about what the two discussed.

Bennet – he was superintendent of Denver’s schools under then-Mayor Hickenlooper – also refused during an MSNBC interview on Wednesday to divulge the topic of their conversation.

But Bennet described his former boss as a phenomenal governor and mayor and added, “I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t be a phenomenal senator, but he’s got to make his own decision.”

Bennet, who also faces a steep climb to make the upcoming debates, said he’d stay in the race even if he doesn’t qualify for the showdowns.

Hickenlooper had a lackluster second quarter of fundraising, bringing in just $1 million during the April-June period. And six weeks ago, much of his senior staff left the campaign over differences with the candidate over the future of the effort.

The Associated Press contributed to this story.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-27-2019, 11:51 AM
By HANNAH BLEAU - Breitbart


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Presidential hopeful Beto O’Rourke (D), still struggling to crack three percent in most polls, took a break from the campaign trail to grill some burgers, according to a video posted Friday.
The video surfaced last week, showing the former Texas lawmaker grilling a burger on a stovetop and placing a slice of cheese on the patty, slightly off-center. He appears to serve the dish with a side of broccoli– an unusual companion for the American classic. At a glance, it looks like he places the patty on an English muffin– another unconventional choice for such a meal:
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It remains unclear how O’Rourke – a fierce climate change activist who once called the phenomenon the “greatest existential threat” we face – reconciles serving red meat, as many climate change alarmists attribute the festering climate “crisis,” in part, to beef consumption:
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This is far from the first time O’Rourke has attempted to remind the American people that he is “just like them.”

There is also a video of O’Rourke changing a tire:


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Flying on a commercial flight:


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Getting a haircut:


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Going to the dentist:
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And going for a casual jog:


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O’Rourke is currently averaging 2.8 percent in the polls, according to Real Clear Politics.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-28-2019, 10:41 AM
Tess Bond - The Hill


Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) says there’s “no question” that automation and artificial intelligence will have a fundamental impact on working families but he doesn't think fellow candidate Andrew Yang's proposal of a universal basic income is necessarily the solution.

"This is an issue that is of enormous consequences for working people," Sanders told Hill.TV in response to the future impact of automation. "It is an issue that gotten nowhere near the kind of discussion that it needs."

But in response to Yang's proposed universal basic income Sanders emphasized that "people want to work" and the desire to "be a productive member of society" is a "very deeply ingrained feeling that people have."

"The challenge that we face is how do we use technology to improve the lives of working people," Sanders said. "So if you have a really terrible job, a boring job and we make your job better and we enable you to work 20 hours a week rather than 40 hours a week, it's not a bad thing...but it means to say you still need an income to live by, we can't cut your salaries in half."

Sanders went on to tout his federal jobs guarantee as a more viable alternative.

"We take a very different approach from Mr. Yang and that is I believe in a jobs guarantee," he said. "There are an enormous amount of work that has to be done all the way from child care to health care to education to rebuilding our infrastructure to combating climate change to dealing with our growing elderly population."

Sanders said, under his administration, he would create more jobs, which would help combat job loss and other effects of automation.

"Bottom line is we cannot allow robotics technology, artificial intelligence to simply throw people out on the street," he told Hill.TV.

Yang later responded to Sanders' comments on Twitter, saying the Vermont senator is ignoring several potential benefits of universal basic income.

"Bernie ignores the facts that money in our hands would 1) create hundreds of thousands of local jobs and 2) recognize and reward the nurturing work being done in our homes and communities every day. He also assumes that everyone wants to work for the government which isn’t true," he tweeted.
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Yang, a former tech entrepreneur, has made a universal basic income the centerpiece of his campaign platform. The proposal seeks to counteract automation by providing a monthly $1,000 to every American.

The long-shot candidate told CBS’ “Face the Nation” over the weekend that such a plan would result in an economic stimulus.

“The money will go right into local main street businesses,” Yang said over a question over whether such a plan would disincentivize work. “It will help rejuvenate American main street businesses and give us all a path forward.”

Muddy
08-28-2019, 01:05 PM
I know I dont read, but do they say who pays for a UBI..?

Teh One Who Knocks
08-28-2019, 01:06 PM
I know I dont read, but do they say who pays for a UBI..?

People that work, it will come from federal taxes the government has collected.

Muddy
08-28-2019, 01:07 PM
People that work, it will come from federal taxes the government has collected.

But we are in a huge deficit..?

Teh One Who Knocks
08-28-2019, 01:23 PM
But we are in a huge deficit..?

https://i.imgur.com/cpXXwYs.png

https://www.yang2020.com/what-is-freedom-dividend-faq/

Muddy
08-28-2019, 02:16 PM
VAT.. there it is. Even though there is no value for me in it.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-28-2019, 02:21 PM
VAT.. there it is. Even though there is no value for me in it.

Like you pay enough in taxes :hand:

Teh One Who Knocks
08-28-2019, 09:56 PM
Kirsten Gillibrand is out.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-29-2019, 02:33 PM
By Victor Garcia | Fox News


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Democratic presidential hopeful Tulsi Gabbard appeared on "Tucker Carlson Tonight" on Wednesday and took on the Democratic National Committee for a "lack of transparency" on qualifying for the next round of debates.

"I think the bigger problem is that the whole process really lacks transparency," Gabbard told Carlson. "People deserve having that transparency because ultimately it's the people who will decide who our Democratic nominee will be.

"When you see that lack of transparency," she said, it creates "a lack of faith and trust in the process."

Representative Gabbard, D-Hawaii, has hit the donor threshold but in terms of poll thresholds, she fell two short of making the cut for next month's nationally televised primary debates and likely won't make the stage.

The congresswoman said that voters are seeing the "political elites" front and center, while candidates like her are left on the "outside."

"Really what they see is a small group of of really powerful political elites, the establishment making decisions that serve their interests and maintaining that power while the rest of us are left outside. The American people are left behind," Gabbard said.

Gabbard pledged to continue campaigning and reaching out to voters.

"I'm going to continue focusing on speaking directly to voters across this country," she said.

Gabbard returned to the campaign trail this week after two weeks of active duty service overseas with the Army National Guard. "This training exercise further reinforced the problem-solving mindset that has been drilled into me for the past 16 years as a soldier," she said in a statement.

Muddy
08-29-2019, 02:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM-NC7UuNLo

Bills still out there?

DemonGeminiX
08-29-2019, 02:57 PM
Bills still out there?

He's got his own podcast, and I think he's got a show on Newsmax TV. He had a channel on Youtube, but I haven't seen anything posted on it as of late.

Check out his website:

https://www.billoreilly.com/

Teh One Who Knocks
09-03-2019, 11:29 AM
By RYAN SAAVEDRA - The Daily Wire


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Far-left Democratic presidential candidate Robert Francis O'Rourke announced over the weekend that if he is elected president, he intends to confiscate tens of millions of semi-automatic firearms from law-abiding Americans.

O'Rourke made the remarks while campaigning in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday when he was asked by a reporter how he plans to address peoples' fears that the government is going to come and take many of their semi-automatic firearms.

O'Rourke responded: "I want to be really clear, that’s exactly what we are going to do. Americans who own [the technically undefinable sub-class of semi-automatic firearms referred to as "assault weapons"] will have to sell them to the government."
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O'Rourke, who is barely polling above 2% in the polls, has struggled to gain any traction with his campaign after his failed Senate bid in Texas.

In May, The Daily Beast reported that opposition research requests from a top opposition research firm on O'Rourke "have completely died off."

O'Rourke has tried to use recent tragedies to relaunch his campaign and has tried using as much profanity as possible, including on national television, as a way of getting attention.

O'Rourke immediately seized on the opportunity to exploit Saturday's tragedy for political gain, taking to Twitter to promote his campaign.

"Our hearts are with Midland, Odessa, and everyone in West Texas who has to endure this again," O'Rourke tweeted. "More information is forthcoming, but here's what we know: We need to end this epidemic."
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O'Rourke later tweeted: "We don't know how many have been killed. We don't know the motivation. But here's what we do know: This is fucked up."

Earlier this year, a Reuters report revealed that O'Rourke used to write fantasies about how he wanted to murder children.

"It’s unclear whether the United States is ready for a presidential contender who, as a teenager, stole long-distance phone service for his dial-up modem, wrote a murder fantasy in which the narrator drives over children on the street, and mused about a society without money," Reuters reported.

"One day, as I was driving home from work, I noticed two children crossing the street," O'Rourke wrote. "They were happy, happy to be free from their troubles ...This happiness was mine by right. I had earned it in my dreams."

"As I neared the young ones, I put all my weight on my right foot, keeping the accelerator pedal on the floor until I heard the crashing of the two children on the hood, and then the sharp cry of pain from one of the two," O'Rourke continued. "I was so fascinated for a moment, that when after I had stopped my vehicle, I just sat in a daze, sweet visions filling my head."

Muddy
09-03-2019, 01:24 PM
Oooo.. you got my vote..! /s

Teh One Who Knocks
09-03-2019, 01:31 PM
I think he's giving the Nazi salute in that photo :-k

Muddy
09-03-2019, 01:34 PM
God damn Cracker...

lost in melb.
09-04-2019, 02:40 AM
hand 'em over~! :haha:








































:machinegun: :haha:

Teh One Who Knocks
09-06-2019, 10:07 AM
By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News


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MANCHESTER, N.H. – One week ahead of the Democrats' next presidential nomination debate in Houston, three of the lower-tier candidates who failed to make the stage are vowing to march on and taking aim at the Democratic National Committee over the qualifying criteria.

“Look. I don’t think it matters,” billionaire environmental and progressive advocate Tom Steyer told Fox News when asked if not making the stage would set back his White House bid.

Steyer, who was interviewed as he arrived in the first-in-the-nation presidential primary state of New Hampshire, vowed that “we’ll keep going, doing exactly what I’m doing here in New Hampshire. I will keep talking to people and getting my message out.”

The philanthropist, who made his fortune as a hedge fund manager, declared his candidacy just two months ago. He jumped into the race too late to qualify for the second-round debates, which were held at the end of July.

He reached one of the two DNC thresholds to make the cut for the third and fourth round debates – campaign contributions from 130,000 unique donors. But he ended up one poll shy of reaching the other criteria – hitting at least 2 percent in four qualifying national or early voting state surveys.

Steyer, who used millions of his own money to blanket the cable news networks and the airwaves in the early voting states with TV commercials this summer, highlighted that “people are hearing my message and responding to it.”

And he blamed a dearth of qualifying polls for his failure to make next week’s debate stage, emphasizing that “they just haven’t run any polls in the early voting states.”

In his interview, Steyer also jabbed at some of the other Democratic nomination contenders over one of his key issues – climate change.

“I will declare a climate emergency on day one of my presidency,” he said.

And pointing to his rivals who “have plans that sound great,” he said it’s not enough unless they “are willing to say that.”
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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii ended up two polls short of qualifying for next week’s debate. Unlike Steyer, the Hawaii national guard officer and Iraq War veteran was less diplomatic in her critique of the DNC.

“It’s unfortunate that we’ve seen really a lack of transparency in how the DNC is choosing which polls they would recognize as qualifiers,” she told reporters after headlining the "Politics and Eggs" speaking series in New Hampshire Thursday morning.

Looking to next week’s showdown, she acknowledged “it would have been good to be there. It’s a great platform to speak to millions of people in the country.”

She called failing to make the cut “a minor setback but it’s not one that can’t be overcome.”
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Gabbard was optimistic she’d make the October primetime showdown, but added “the debate is not the only way to reach voters so really what I’m focusing on is continuing to move forward, spending time with voters here in New Hampshire. We just left Iowa and continue to bring our message to people.”

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Former three-term Rep. John Delaney of Maryland, a long-shot who came nowhere close to qualifying for the debate, also blamed a lack of polling for failing to make the stage.

“There weren’t a lot of polls in August. That was part of the problem,” he told Fox News on Wednesday.

But Delaney, a multi-millionaire who’s mostly self-financing his campaign, also fell short of reaching the fundraising criteria. He called the donor threshold “a ridiculous requirement.

Delaney noted that the DNC’s “never done anything like this before. I think in many ways the Republicans did it better last time, because they let everyone debate and they had two different stages. So if you were polling better, you were on the first stage and if you weren’t polling as well you were on the second stage. At least that allowed everyone to be debating and I think that was a better approach than what the DNC is doing.”

He admitted that “it’s always better to be in the debates.”

But he downplayed the significance of the debates, saying “I was in the first two debates. It’s not clear that the debates changed anything for anyone.”

With five months to go until Iowa and New Hampshire kick off the presidential nominating calendar, Delaney said, “I do think it’s early. When I travel around here in New Hampshire, my sense is that people are just starting to dial in.”
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And he emphasized “I’m planning on staying in. Period.”

Delaney did set a deadline, stressing that, “I have to do well in Iowa and I have to do well in New Hampshire. So that to me is the big deciding point in the campaign.”

DemonGeminiX
09-09-2019, 11:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gy797D3cAY

Teh One Who Knocks
09-13-2019, 10:02 AM
By Douglas E. Schoen | Fox News


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In the most contentious Democratic debate thus far, a winnowed field of 10 Democratic candidates took the stage in Houston Thursday night and sparred over hot-button issues such as health care and immigration.

Notably, this was the first time that frontrunners Sen. Elizabeth Warren and former Vice President Joe Biden shared the debate stage.

Warren and Biden exhibited stark differences on style, policy and vision for the Democratic Party, embodying two opposing theories of what the party should be.

This divide was apparent during an explosive debate over health care, during which Biden went on the attack against Warren, D-Mass., and Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., for the hidden costs associated with their “Medicare-for-all plans.”

Warren deflected when asked if middle-class taxes will go up to pay for “Medicare for all,” saying total costs would go down – but not explicitly stating whether taxes for middle-class families would increase.

“What we're talking about here is what's going to happen in families' pockets,” Warren said.

“This is about candor, honesty,” Biden retorted. “There will be a deductible – in your paycheck ... someone making 60 grand with three kids, they're going to end up paying $5,000 more.”

Though many were watching Warren expecting her to deliver a knockout performance, the senator fell somewhat short of that expectation. While this will likely not impact Warren’s standing in the presidential race at this early stage – which according to most polls is a close second behind Biden – she did not have the debate moment that many were anticipating.

On the other hand, the first 30 minutes of the debate during the health care discussion were arguably Biden’s best moments on the campaign trail to date. Though the former vice president’s performance was not perfect, he exhibited a much-needed display of strength and preparedness.

Aside from Biden’s generally strong performance, he compellingly and convincingly delivered his core message of restoring, protecting and rebuilding the Obama-Biden record.

“The senator says she's for Bernie. Well, I'm for Barack,” Biden said about Warren's support for “Medicare-for-all,” referencing last month’s debate, when Warren said she completely agreed with Sanders on “Medicare-for-all.”

At the previous debate, several progressive candidates took aim at former President Obama’s legacy on health care as a way to attack Biden on his record.

However, in a marked reversal, both Warren and Sen. Kamala Harris of California – who sharply criticized Obama in the last debate – praised the former president for the positive systematic changes to health care that came as a result of ObamaCare.

Indeed, if there was an absentee winner of the debate, it was Obama. Aside from Biden, one of the clearest, and most concise health care arguments came from Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, who has polled consistently in the low single-digits and had yet to have a strong debate moment before Thursday night.

Klobuchar said that although Sanders may have written the “Medicare-for-all” bill, she “actually read the bill,” noting that under Sanders’ plan “we will no longer have private insurance as we know it” – resulting in millions of Americans losing their private insurance.

Similar to previous debates, the discussion of immigration had Biden on the defensive over the 3 million undocumented immigrants that were deported under the Obama administration.

Former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro, in particular, took aim at Biden, using the moment to attack Biden for “taking credit” for positive elements of the Obama legacy and distancing himself from criticism.

“He wants to take credit for Obama's work but not have to answer any questions,” Castro said of Biden.

These attacks largely fell flat, as did Castro’s attempted jab at Biden’s age, and will surely not result in a post-debate polling spike for Castro that other candidates have experienced after attacking Biden during a debate.

“I stand with Barack Obama all eight years – good, bad, and indifferent,” Biden said in response to the immigration attacks, once again reverting to his campaign message of restoring, protecting and rebuilding the Obama-Biden record.

Aside from Castro’s attacks, throughout the entire night Sanders was the candidate who attacked Biden the most. He went after the former vice president not just on health care, but also on corporations, Biden’s vote in favor of the Iraq war as a senator, and trade.

But while Sanders was one of the more vocal candidates, he did not deliver the performance he needed to in order to pull ahead of Biden or Warren in the polls.

Ultimately, Biden’s impressive – though not perfect – performance was a much-needed display of strength and preparedness and will likely solidify his frontrunner status.

Teh One Who Knocks
09-13-2019, 10:52 AM
By David Rutz - Washington Free Beacon



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TceWG5a0UNs

Former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D., Texas) said at Thursday's debate that "hell yes" he was going to seize AR-15s and AK-47s, the most popular rifles in America, from their owners if he became president.

O'Rourke has embraced a more radical gun control proposal than some of his fellow 2020 presidential candidates, supporting a mandatory buyback program for "assault weapons," the definition of which varies from state to state but is often used by politicians to refer to semi-automatic rifles like the AR-15 and AK-47.

ABC News moderator David Muir noted critics of O'Rourke's policy called it "confiscation" and asked him how it would work. O'Rourke said he was serious about seizing any weapon designed to kill people on a battlefield.

"Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15, your AK-47," he said. "We're not going to allow it to be used against our fellow Americans anymore."

He recently met with gun owners at a gun show, who he said were willing to part with such weapons because they weren't necessary to hunt.

"Let's do the right thing, but let's bring everyone in America into the conversation," O'Rourke said. "Republicans, Democrats, gun-owners, and non-gun owners alike."

It's a dramatic reversal from last year when he challenged Sen. Ted Cruz (R., Texas). O'Rourke said anyone who had purchased an AR-15 and was using it legally should keep it.
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There are an estimated 16 million AR-15s and AK-47s in the United States. The FBI found rifles, of which those guns are a small subset, were responsible for 403 murders in 2017.

DemonGeminiX
09-13-2019, 11:34 AM
These idiots are gonna get people killed.

Muddy
09-13-2019, 12:52 PM
I watched 3 minutes of this shit last night and heard Yangs statement on how much he loves immigrants because he is an immigrant and his stance would be "Come to America"..! I turned the channel before it ruined my evening and made me even grumpier.

Teh One Who Knocks
09-17-2019, 10:50 AM
By Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News


Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., expressed her support for a mandatory buyback program for "assault weapons" on Monday during her appearance on "The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon."

Towards the end of her interview, she took questions from the audience, made up of mostly college students. One of them had pressed Harris about her stance on guns.

"Do you believe in the mandatory buyback of quote-unquote assault weapons and whether or not you do, how does that idea not go against fundamentally the Second Amendment?" Andrew from Fordham University asked.

"Great question. I do believe that we need to do buybacks and I'll tell you why," Harris responded. "First of all, let's be clear about what assault weapons are. They have been designed to kill a lot of human beings quickly. They are weapons of war with no place on the streets of a civil society. I've seen assault weapons kill babies and police officers."

The 2020 hopeful then reiterated her threat of executive order as president if Congress doesn't act on gun reform, but stressed that the "over 2 million" assault weapons currently in the streets need to be addressed.

"A buyback program is a good idea. Now we need to do it the right way," Harris continued. "And part of that has to be, you know, buy back and give people their value, the financial value of what they have and not just take things from people that have value without compensating them. We need to do it the right way."

This comes just days after former congressman Beto O'Rourke proudly declared for a gun seizure at last week's Democratic debate.

"Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15, your AK-47. We're not going to allow it to be used against our fellow Americans anymore," O'Roukre vowed.

Muddy
09-17-2019, 04:29 PM
I am not your prostitute..!! :x

PorkChopSandwiches
09-17-2019, 05:07 PM
Beto is at skid row today, maybe one of the homeless takes care of him

Muddy
09-17-2019, 05:09 PM
Beto is at skid row today, maybe one of the homeless takes care of him

Stop.. He's just like us... :hand:

PorkChopSandwiches
09-17-2019, 08:34 PM
https://i.redd.it/tuncsu4vt5n31.jpg

lost in melb.
09-17-2019, 09:47 PM
Here is my current take. As long as it's not a ploy to get special treatment you can label yourself as you please. If someone doesn't want to call you that it's not a crime. They might just be an asshole. Individual institutions - not law courts - should mostly decide how they handle employees who are discriminatory against 'minorities'.

Muddy
09-18-2019, 09:39 AM
Here is my current take. As long as it's not a ploy to get special treatment you can label yourself as you please. If someone doesn't want to call you that it's not a crime. They might just be an asshole. Individual institutions - not law courts - should mostly decide how they handle employees who are discriminatory against 'minorities'.

You may have posted this in the wrong thread..

Teh One Who Knocks
09-18-2019, 10:16 AM
By Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News


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Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., faced an unexpected grilling from "Late Show" host Stephen Colbert on whether or not the middle class will face a tax hike to fund Medicare-for-all.

During the interview on Tuesday night, Colbert began the exchange by referring to Medicare-for-all as her "most radical" policy position.

"You keep being asked in the debates how are you going to pay for it, are you going to be raising the middle-class taxes... How are you going to pay for it? Are you going to be raising the middle-class taxes?" Colbert asked.

"So, here's how we're going to do this," Warren responded. "Costs are going to go up for the wealthiest Americans, for big corporations... and hard-working middle-class families are going to see their costs going down."

"But will their taxes go up?" Colbert pressed.

"But, here's the thing," Warren said.

"But, here's the thing," Colbert grinningly interrupted. "I've listened to these answers a few times before and I just want to make a parallel suggestion to you that you might defend the taxes perhaps that you’re not mentioning in your sentence."

He continued by sharing his "parallel suggestion": "Isn’t Medicare-for-all like public school? There might be taxes for it, but you certainly save a lot of money sending your kids to school and do you want to live in a world where your kids aren’t educated? Do you want to live in a world where your fellow citizens are dying, even if it costs a little bit of money?”

"So, I accept your point and I believe in your point," Warren responded. "Health care is a basic human right. We fight for basic human rights, and that’s Medicare-for-all. Everyone gets covered."

Muddy
09-18-2019, 12:24 PM
By Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News


https://i.imgur.com/OrhjTLQ.jpg

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., faced an unexpected grilling from "Late Show" host Stephen Colbert on whether or not the middle class will face a tax hike to fund Medicare-for-all.

During the interview on Tuesday night, Colbert began the exchange by referring to Medicare-for-all as her "most radical" policy position.

"You keep being asked in the debates how are you going to pay for it, are you going to be raising the middle-class taxes... How are you going to pay for it? Are you going to be raising the middle-class taxes?" Colbert asked.

"So, here's how we're going to do this," Warren responded. "Costs are going to go up for the wealthiest Americans, for big corporations... and hard-working middle-class families are going to see their costs going down."

"But will their taxes go up?" Colbert pressed.

"But, here's the thing," Warren said.

"But, here's the thing," Colbert grinningly interrupted. "I've listened to these answers a few times before and I just want to make a parallel suggestion to you that you might defend the taxes perhaps that you’re not mentioning in your sentence."

He continued by sharing his "parallel suggestion": "Isn’t Medicare-for-all like public school? There might be taxes for it, but you certainly save a lot of money sending your kids to school and do you want to live in a world where your kids aren’t educated? Do you want to live in a world where your fellow citizens are dying, even if it costs a little bit of money?”

"So, I accept your point and I believe in your point," Warren responded. "Health care is a basic human right. We fight for basic human rights, and that’s Medicare-for-all. Everyone gets covered."

It is not a basic human right..(It would be nice if it were free) But alas, it is a service paid for and provided by someone.

Now.. That being said.. I bet "Medicaid for all" would cost far less that the 24k I pay a year for health insurance. I would probably sign up if at the end of the day my rates were halved, and the bloodthirsty middle man known as 'insurance company's' were removed from the equation. They have totally fucked our health care system being in between you and your doctor.

PorkChopSandwiches
09-18-2019, 05:31 PM
It is not a basic human right..(It would be nice if it were free) But alas, it is a service paid for and provided by someone.

Now.. That being said.. I bet "Medicaid for all" would cost far less that the 24k I pay a year for health insurance. I would probably sign up if at the end of the day my rates were halved, and the bloodthirsty middle man known as 'insurance company's' were removed from the equation. They have totally fucked our health care system being in between you and your doctor.

My problem is, when has the government ever ran something successfully. The mutha fuckin DMV is a gawddamn nightmare, now imagine thats your Dr. office.

Muddy
09-18-2019, 05:34 PM
My problem is, when has the government ever ran something successfully. The mutha fuckin DMV is a gawddamn nightmare, now imagine thats your Dr. office.

Medicaid worked pretty well for my great uncle of which I had to manage his care. And our Virginia DMV has come a long long way since the 80's. So there is that?

PorkChopSandwiches
09-18-2019, 05:45 PM
Medicaid worked pretty well for my great uncle of which I had to manage his care. And our Virginia DMV has come a long long way since the 80's. So there is that?

Fair, I guess I assumed all DMV's ran the same. CA DMV is a nightmare, you cant even get an appointment to renew your license in the time frame from when they tell you you need to renew and the expiration of your license. I had to drive for over a month with an expired license. If I were to just show up at the DMV for a renewal its at least a 6 hour wait.

Muddy
09-18-2019, 05:49 PM
Fair, I guess I assumed all DMV's ran the same. CA DMV is a nightmare, you cant even get an appointment to renew your license in the time frame from when they tell you you need to renew and the expiration of your license. I had to drive for over a month with an expired license. If I were to just show up at the DMV for a renewal its at least a 6 hour wait.

Ours you go in to a central desk where you tell them why you're there, They give you a number that is called electronically to a specific window that is qualified to handle your specific request. They also give you the forms you need to fill out while you are waiting for your number to be called, so when you get up there you are ready to transact. On the busiest days 1 hour is tops..

lost in melb.
09-18-2019, 11:40 PM
You may have posted this in the wrong thread..

Yeah.

Teh One Who Knocks
09-19-2019, 11:39 AM
By Houston Keene - Independent Journal Review


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Senator Joe Manchin (D-W.V.) called out 2020 Democratic presidential primary candidate Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas) for his mandatory assault weapon buyback proposal.

On Wednesday, it was reported that Manchin — whose state was won by President Donald Trump with nearly 68 percent of the vote — blasted the former Texas congressman for his gun control plan, saying that he was “one human being” with one opinion.

He went on to proclaim that O’Rourke would not be “taking” his firearms.

“Beto’s one human being. He gave his own opinion, OK? I think it was very harmful to make it look like all the Democrats,” Manchin told Lindsay Wise of the Wall Street Journal. “I can tell you one thing: [O’Rourke’s] not taking my guns away from me.”

“You tell Beto that OK?” the West Virginia senator added.
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The news elicited a response from Manchin’s fellow Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) — who defeated O’Rourke during the 2018 midterm elections. Cruz offered nothing more than a side-eye emoji.
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Manchin’s response to O’Rourke’s plan came the same day that the president dubbed the former Texas congressman “Dummy Beto.”

“Dummy Beto made it much harder to make a deal,” wrote Trump, referencing potential gun control legislation. “Convinced many that Dems just want to take your guns away. Will continue forward!”
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Manchin has called out his Democratic colleagues in Congress before.

As IJR previously reported, the West Virginia Democrat torched his fellow Democrats in June for supporting Senator Bernie Sanders‘ (I-Vt.) “Medicare for All” proposal.

He told The Hill that the U.S. cannot afford to pay for some people’s Medicare needs, let alone the entire country’s.

“We can’t even pay for Medicare for some and to go Medicare for All, we can’t take care of those who are depending on it right now,” said Manchin.

Teh One Who Knocks
09-20-2019, 11:56 AM
Bill De Blasio is out.

Teh One Who Knocks
09-23-2019, 11:05 AM
The Associated Press


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AURORA, Colo. (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke says he's open to broadening his proposal to require owners of AK-47s and AR-15s to sell them to the government.

During an emotional town hall Thursday near the site of the Colorado theater shooting, a man who identified himself as a survivor of the 1999 Columbine massacre noted that the shooters there didn't use the military-style weapons O'Rourke wants to take. They instead used regular semi-automatic weapons. He challenged O'Rourke to confiscate those arms as well.

O'Rourke told reporters afterward: "If there's a way to improve what we proposed, I want to make sure we're reflecting that."

Most pistols and many rifles in the U.S. are semi-automatic. In contrast, there are about 10 million AK-47s and AR-15s out of more than 300 million firearms in private hands in the country.

Teh One Who Knocks
09-23-2019, 11:22 AM
Bill De Blasio is out.

https://i.imgur.com/jsRu11Jh.jpg

:lol:

Muddy
09-23-2019, 12:35 PM
https://i.redd.it/tuncsu4vt5n31.jpg

Yeah but the dem money is being spread across multiple candidates.

DemonGeminiX
09-23-2019, 12:59 PM
The Associated Press


https://i.imgur.com/3N8hRRSl.jpg

AURORA, Colo. (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke says he's open to broadening his proposal to require owners of AK-47s and AR-15s to sell them to the government.

During an emotional town hall Thursday near the site of the Colorado theater shooting, a man who identified himself as a survivor of the 1999 Columbine massacre noted that the shooters there didn't use the military-style weapons O'Rourke wants to take. They instead used regular semi-automatic weapons. He challenged O'Rourke to confiscate those arms as well.

O'Rourke told reporters afterward: "If there's a way to improve what we proposed, I want to make sure we're reflecting that."

Most pistols and many rifles in the U.S. are semi-automatic. In contrast, there are about 10 million AK-47s and AR-15s out of more than 300 million firearms in private hands in the country.

I'm seriously considering purchasing an AR-10 because of this shit.

PorkChopSandwiches
09-23-2019, 04:31 PM
Well he has no chance so I wouldn't be too concerned

DemonGeminiX
09-23-2019, 07:51 PM
But he's not the only one up there saying that. And the kids are applauding him. Our future is bleak.

Muddy
09-23-2019, 08:01 PM
But he's not the only one up there saying that. And the kids are applauding him. Our future is bleak.

It's just a matter of time until they control the majority.

Hikari Kisugi
09-28-2019, 03:00 PM
I still don't get the democrat method at the moment.
If you want to win, you have to appeal to the middle.
Thus far they all seems to be rabidly jumping over each other to head as far extreme as they can.

Pony
09-28-2019, 05:06 PM
I still don't get the democrat method at the moment.
If you want to win, you have to appeal to the middle.
Thus far they all seems to be rabidly jumping over each other to head as far extreme as they can.

Yep, they are soo far left now that those on the moderate left are thinking "Maybe Trump isn't that bad..."

Teh One Who Knocks
10-03-2019, 10:00 AM
By Brie Stimson | Fox News


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Sen. Elizabeth Warren was met by a small but persistent group of Trump supporters who followed the Massachusetts Democrat through Reno-Tahoe International Airport on Wednesday, with shouts of “Don’t impeach!” and "Go home!"

A Twitter video shared by the Nevada Republican Party shows the group following Warren through the terminal where she was hurried into a waiting van.
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Warren ignored the protesters as they held up signs and continued to shout at her.

“Welcome to Reno ⁦@ewarren! This is @teamtrump country!!” Nevada Republican Party state Chairman Michael J. McDonald wrote in a separate tweet.
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Warren spoke to a much larger and friendlier crowd in Carson City on Wednesday evening – but a Trump supporter holding a “Keep America Great” sign interrupted her speech, prompting the crowd of Warren backers to chant "Lock him up!”

"There's a lot we need to do,” Warren said to the crowd, according to New York Times reporter Thomas Kaplan, who tweeted the video. “And I understand, I understand that Donald Trump and his supporters are getting really nervous, and they have a good reason to be."
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Support for Warren has surged among Democrats in recent weeks, with the candidate passing former Vice President Joe Biden by four points in a new national poll released this week.

Warren spoke earlier Wednesday at a gun safety forum in Las Vegas.

Biden was also in Nevada on Wednesday, making a campaign stop in Reno, where he attacked Trump for his alleged “abuse of power.”

“He did it because -- like every bully in history — he’s afraid. He’s afraid of just how badly I would beat him next November,” Biden said of Trump asking Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate him.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-04-2019, 10:32 AM
By Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News


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Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., may have had what some are calling her "please clap" moment on Thursday when she got a not so favorable response to the question if America was "ready" for her to be president.

Speaking at a town hall event in Reno, Nev., Harris told attendees she wanted to "engage in real talk" about the state of the 2020 race.

"In this election, in the last couple- I mean, maybe couple of months, certainly a few weeks, there's this whole conversation that has been coming up about electability focused on our campaign," Harris said. "Is America ready for that?"
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Several audience members were then heard responding "No" throughout the room, with Harris visibly shocked by what she heard.

"Well, yes they are," Harris told the crowd, sparking some laughter.

The exchange received mockery on social media, many comparing it to the memorable moment from the 2016 election when former Gov. Jeb Bush, R-Flor., urged a crowd at a campaign stop to "please clap."

Harris has seen a dramatic drop in the polls in recent weeks. In the latest Fox News poll, she received seven percent of support among likely Democratic voters while former Vice President Joe Biden maintains a double-digit lead with 29 percent while Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., has 18 percent support and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., has 16 percent.

DemonGeminiX
10-04-2019, 11:59 AM
Nobody's wants Willy's side piece as President.

Muddy
10-04-2019, 02:55 PM
She really need to get that wig smoked.

RBP
10-04-2019, 03:29 PM
Nobody's wants Willy's side piece as President.

:lol:

lost in melb.
10-04-2019, 06:52 PM
:haha:

Teh One Who Knocks
10-09-2019, 09:35 PM
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lost in melb.
10-10-2019, 01:43 AM
Well, by today's level of scandal this is true :dunno:













:fu:

DemonGeminiX
10-10-2019, 10:20 AM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... *deep breath*... HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH AHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

Teh One Who Knocks
10-10-2019, 11:52 AM
By John Binder - Breitbart


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Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), a leading 2020 Democrat presidential primary candidate, is vowing to “fight” for back pay for illegal aliens.
As part of Warren’s “Empowering American Workers and Raising Wages” plan, illegal aliens who have worked illegally in the United States — sometimes by stealing Americans’ identities and Social Security numbers — would become eligible to receive back pay for their previous work by amending the National Labor Relations Act.

Warren writes:


Ensuring employers can’t exploit undocumented workers and drive down standards for all workers: The 2002 Supreme Court case Hoffman Plastic Compounds v. NLRB held that an undocumented worker could not receive the backpay he was owed from an employer who had violated the NLRA. That 5–4 ruling is wrong and denies millions of undocumented workers redress for illegal firings or other retaliatory conduct by an employer. The case encourages employers to hire undocumented immigrants and exploit them in numerous fields, including construction and manufacturing, which could lower wages for all workers. I will fight to amend the NLRA to end this form of exploitation and ensure that all workers are protected. [Emphasis added]

Despite her platform of populist economic patriotism, Warren has committed to driving up foreign competition against America’s working and middle class in the U.S. labor market by providing amnesty for 11 to 22 million illegal aliens, increasing current legal immigration levels, and decriminalizing illegal immigration.
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Absent from Warren’s workers plan is a mandate and punishment for employers and businesses who hire illegal aliens over American citizens, as well as a reform to the H-1B visa program whereby Americans are readily replaced by foreign visa workers to increase profit margins for multinational corporations.

Warren has not endorsed mandatory E-Verify — a system that prevents businesses from hiring illegal aliens over Americans — though it would decrease foreign competition against Americans, especially those most vulnerable to competing against illegal aliens in the labor market.

In contrast to Warren is President Trump’s populist-nationalist “Buy American, Hire American” agenda, which has sought to increase interior immigration enforcement to tighten the labor market and delivered wage hikes for America’s blue-collar and working class. Unlike Warren, Trump’s latest national immigration plan includes a nationwide mandate of E-Verify to prevent Americans from being forced to compete for jobs against illegal aliens.

Today, there are at least eight million illegal aliens holding American jobs in the U.S. economy that would have otherwise gone to American workers and legal immigrants. In most cases, these illegal workers obtain fraudulent work authorization documents or steal American citizens’ identities in order to take jobs.

Muddy
10-10-2019, 01:30 PM
What is the fucking problem with these dems being more concerned for illegal immigrants than they are for American citizens? :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
10-10-2019, 01:33 PM
What is the fucking problem with these dems being more concerned for illegal immigrants than they are for American citizens? :lol:

I like the very first sentence in her statement:


Ensuring employers can’t exploit undocumented workers and drive down standards for all workers...

It's already against the law for employers to hire illegals FFS. They don't have any rights as workers because (A) they are here in this country illegally to begin with and (B) they aren't legally allowed to be employed in this country. How fucking more simple does it need to be?

Muddy
10-10-2019, 01:58 PM
You would think one of these fools would take a more moderate stance and differentiate themselves from this current gaggle of idiots.. With all this Turkey shit surrounding Trump they would grab the moderates / swing voters over night.

PorkChopSandwiches
10-10-2019, 04:29 PM
There is no way she can win with all this crazy talk

Teh One Who Knocks
10-11-2019, 10:39 AM
By Amanda Prestigiacomo - The Daily Wire


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On Thursday morning, Democratic presidential hopeful Tulsi Gabbard posted a video to social media calling foul on the corporate media and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) attempting to “rig” the 2020 primary, as she says they did against Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) during the 2016 Democratic presidential primary election.

“I am seriously considering boycotting October 15 debate to bring attention to DNC/corporate media’s effort to rig 2020 primary,” Gabbard captioned her video post to Twitter.

On her campaign website, Gabbard similarly warns: “The DNC and corporate media are trying to hijack the entire election process.”

“I want to thank you all very much for your support. I need to share something with you. It is very important,” the Democrat started in the video post. “There are so many of you who I’ve met in Iowa and New Hampshire who have expressed to me how frustrated you are that the DNC and corporate media are essentially trying to usurp your role as voters in choosing who our Democratic nominee will be.”

“I share your concerns, and I’m sure that all our supporters throughout the country do as well,” she said.

The Democrat then charged that the “2016 Democratic Primary election was rigged by the DNC and their partners in the corporate media against Bernie Sanders.”

Folks on the Left have engaged in some serious infighting over the last presidential primary. As noted by The Daily Wire, “Everything from the primary and debate schedule to the excessive power of super-delegates helped Clinton secure the nomination, even though Sanders was drawing far larger crowds and had massive support from all wings of the party.”

Donna Brazile, former CNN contributor and DNC interim chairwoman, infamously delivered “the network’s prepared questions to Clinton’s campaign just before a crucial debate.”

“If the fight had been fair, one campaign would not have control of the party before the voters had decided which one they wanted to lead,” Brazile admitted in the days following the 2016 presidential election.

“This was not a criminal act, but as I saw it, it compromised the party’s integrity,” she said, noting that “it sure looked unethical.”

According to Gabbard, the DNC and their media allies are “rigging the election again.”

“In this 2020 election, the DNC and corporate media are rigging the election again, but this time against the American people in the early voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada,” she said.

“They are attempting to replace the roles of voters in the early states, using polling and other arbitrary methods which are not transparent or democratic, and holding so-called debates which are not debates at all but rather commercialized reality television meant to entertain, rather than to inform or enlighten,” Gabbard noted.

“In short, the DNC and corporate media are trying to hijack the entire election process,” she closed the video. “So, in order to bring attention to this serious threat to our democracy, and to ensure that your voice is heard, I’m seriously considering to boycotting the next debate on October 15th. I’m gonna announce my decision within the next few days.”
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Teh One Who Knocks
10-11-2019, 01:12 PM
Zachary Evans - National Review


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Senator Elizabeth Warren called for placing transgender prisoners in detention facilities designed for the opposite biological sex in a new LGBTQ rights plan released Thursday.

“I will direct the Bureau of Prisons to end the Trump Administration’s dangerous policy of imprisoning transgender people in facilities based on their sex assigned at birth,” Warren wrote in the plan.

Under the plan, transgender inmates would be placed in detention facilities that correspond to their gender identity rather than their biological sex, and would be entitled to tax-payer funded gender transition surgeries.

Both Warren and fellow candidate Joe Biden have expressed support for tax-payer funded transition surgeries before. At a September 20 Iowa LGBTQ conference, Biden said that the surgery should be covered by Obamacare.

In January of this year, Warren changed her stance on government-funded transition surgeries after it emerged that she had dismissed the notion that taxpayers should fund the cosmetic procedure in a 2012 interview.

“I have to say, I don’t think it’s a good use of taxpayer dollars,” she said at the time.

Bill de Blasio also declared his support for tax-payer funded gender transition surgery in July during his own presidential bid. De Blasio has since dropped out of the Democratic primary field following lackluster poll results.

Warren has consistently run to the left of the Democratic field on social issues since beginning her candidacy. On Wednesday she released a plan designed to combat climate change and “climate injustice,” pledging to invest $1.5 trillion over a decade to stop global warming and to help minority communities allegedly disproportionately affected by the warming.

“Our crisis of environmental injustice is the result of decades of discrimination and environmental racism compounding in communities that have been overlooked for too long,” the plan states.

Muddy
10-11-2019, 02:01 PM
Zachary Evans - National Review


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Senator Elizabeth Warren called for placing transgender prisoners in detention facilities designed for the opposite biological sex in a new LGBTQ rights plan released Thursday.

“I will direct the Bureau of Prisons to end the Trump Administration’s dangerous policy of imprisoning transgender people in facilities based on their sex assigned at birth,” Warren wrote in the plan.

Under the plan, transgender inmates would be placed in detention facilities that correspond to their gender identity rather than their biological sex, and would be entitled to tax-payer funded gender transition surgeries.

Both Warren and fellow candidate Joe Biden have expressed support for tax-payer funded transition surgeries before. At a September 20 Iowa LGBTQ conference, Biden said that the surgery should be covered by Obamacare.

In January of this year, Warren changed her stance on government-funded transition surgeries after it emerged that she had dismissed the notion that taxpayers should fund the cosmetic procedure in a 2012 interview.

“I have to say, I don’t think it’s a good use of taxpayer dollars,” she said at the time.

Bill de Blasio also declared his support for tax-payer funded gender transition surgery in July during his own presidential bid. De Blasio has since dropped out of the Democratic primary field following lackluster poll results.

Warren has consistently run to the left of the Democratic field on social issues since beginning her candidacy. On Wednesday she released a plan designed to combat climate change and “climate injustice,” pledging to invest $1.5 trillion over a decade to stop global warming and to help minority communities allegedly disproportionately affected by the warming.

“Our crisis of environmental injustice is the result of decades of discrimination and environmental racism compounding in communities that have been overlooked for too long,” the plan states.

Have you ever seen 'Orange is the new black'..?

Teh One Who Knocks
10-16-2019, 10:29 AM
By Douglas E. Schoen | Fox News


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Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts was the big winner Tuesday night in Westerville, Ohio in the most crowded presidential debate ever held. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., also delivered strong performances.

Former Vice President Joe Biden and the other eight candidates on stage came out the losers in the three-hour Democratic presidential primary debate.

BIGGEST WINNER: Elizabeth Warren

Warren’s strong performance will likely solidify her frontrunner status ahead of Biden and Sanders. She emerged the clear winner of the night by showing she was sharp and prepared as she fended off attacks from candidates who were looking to cut into her polling lead.

Even during the heated exchanges over health care and a wealth tax, Warren was able to turn attacks leveled against her around, and still deliver the best answers of the evening.

Warren questioned why the other candidates “think it is more important to protect billionaires than to invest in Americans” when responding to an attack on her plan for a wealth tax.

And importantly, Warren remained the focal point of the debate, speaking for the most amount of time of all of the candidates.

The senator from Massachusetts now has unmatched fundraising and polling momentum, along with a series of strong debate performances. This, coupled with the fact that Biden and Sanders have been weakened in dissimilar but debilitating ways recently, almost guarantees that Warren will take over as the front-runner.

SURPRISE WINNER: Bernie Sanders

Sanders has faced a precipitous decline in the most recent polls given the significant questions about his health and stamina following his recent heart attack.

However, Sanders delivered a strong, forceful performance in the debate, succeeding in showing voters that he has not lost a step, making him the second-place finisher of the night.

But it is clear that Warren has supplanted Sanders as the leader of the progressive movement in the Democratic field. As a result, it will be difficult – if not impossible – for Sanders to reestablish himself ahead of Warren.

SURPRISE WINNER: Pete Buttigieg

Buttigieg has been called the breakout star of the Democratic field – though he has recently struggled to distinguish himself. He had several strong moments in the Tuesday night debate. He was able to make a compelling case as a young, center-left candidate from a swing state with a military background.

Buttigieg was particularly strong during a tense exchange with Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii over President Trump’s decision to withdraw troops from northern Syria, delivering a response that elicited cheers from the audience.

“Respectfully congresswoman, I think that is dead wrong,” the mayor said. “The slaughter going on in Syria is not a consequence of American presence, it's a consequence of a withdrawal and betrayal by this president of American allies and American values.”

Ultimately, Buttigieg’s performance will likely result in a post-debate polling bump with moderate voters, especially given Biden’s relatively weak debate performance.

LOSERS

BIGGEST LOSER: Joe Biden

All eyes, particularly those of Democratic leaders, strategists, and donors were on Biden, who needed deliver a strong performance to reassure voters that he is ready for a general election fight against Trump.

However, Biden was unable to break through and deliver the forceful showing that he needed, dodging a question regarding his son’s work with Ukraine and delivering several other uneven answers throughout the night.

With each passing day, Biden seems to move further from securing the Democratic presidential nomination, and his unimpressive performance Tuesday night will likely result in a post-debate polling decline.

LOSER: Amy Klobuchar

Additionally, although Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota had a number of well-executed lines taking aim at Warren, many felt similar to the inconsequential attacks leveled against Warren by former Rep. John Delaney of Maryland during the first debate. Thus, Klobuchar’s performance is unlikely to result in the post-debate polling spike her campaign needed.

LOSER: Kamala Harris

Sen. Kamala Harris of California similarly fell short, as she failed to distinguish herself in any meaningful way at a time when her campaign desperately needs a boost. Given that recent polls have her hoovering at around 5 percent, she will likely not be able to regain the momentum she had just over two months ago.

LOSERS: Gabbard, Castro, Steyer, Booker, O’Rourke and Yang

The remaining candidates – all barely registering in polls – were the biggest losers of the night. Rep. Gabbard, former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro, philanthropist Tom Steyer, Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey, former Rep. Beto O’Rourke of Texas and entrepreneur Andrew Yang failed to have the breakout moment they all desperately needed to show voters they could defeat Trump in November 2020.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-16-2019, 10:54 AM
By Nikki Schwab and Tamar Lapin - The New York Post


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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard went after the hosts of Tuesday’s Democratic primary debate — CNN and The New York Times — calling their coverage of her “completely despicable.”

Speaking from the debate stage in Ohio, the 38-year-old Iraq War veteran accused the news media and politicians of pushing the conflict in Syria, which she called a “regime change war.”

“Not only that, New York Times and CNN have also smeared veterans like myself for calling for an end to this regime change war,” Gabbard said.

“Just two days ago The New York Times put out an article saying that I’m a Russian asset and an [Syrian President Bashar] al-Assad apologist and all these different smears. This morning a CNN commentator said on national television that I’m an asset of Russia.”

The congresswoman appeared to be referring to an Oct. 12 Times article entitled “What, Exactly, is Tulsi Gabbard Up To?”

Hours before the debate, CNN analyst Bakari Sellers called her a “puppet for the Russian government.”

Gabbard — who has been criticized for meeting with Assad during a 2017 trip to war-torn Syria — called on Sen. Elizabeth Warren to join her in demanding an end to the conflict in the country.

Later, Gabbard and South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg sparred over President Trump’s decision to pull back US troops stationed along the northeast Syria border — which was seen as green-lighting Turkey to invade and slaughter Kurdish fighters and civilians there.

“Donald Trump has the blood of the Kurds on his hand, but so do many of the politicians in our country from both parties who have supported this ongoing regime change war in Syria that started in 2011, along with many in the mainstream media, who have been championing and cheerleading this regime change war,” Gabbard said.

“We need to get out, but we need to do this through a negotiated solution,” she added.

In response, Buttigieg, 37, an Afghanistan War veteran, said he thought Gabbard was “dead wrong.”

“The slaughter going on in Syria is not a consequence of American presence, it is a consequence of a withdrawal and a betrayal by this president of American allies and American values,” he said.

“A small number of specialized, special operations forces and intelligence capabilities were the only thing that stood between that part of Syria and what we’re seeing now, which is the beginning of a genocide and the resurgence of ISIS,” he added.

Muddy
10-16-2019, 12:26 PM
By Amanda Prestigiacomo - The Daily Wire


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On Thursday morning, Democratic presidential hopeful Tulsi Gabbard posted a video to social media calling foul on the corporate media and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) attempting to “rig” the 2020 primary, as she says they did against Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) during the 2016 Democratic presidential primary election.



C'mom sweety, the DNC would never do that...

PorkChopSandwiches
10-16-2019, 04:06 PM
Zachary Evans - National Review


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Senator Elizabeth Warren called for placing transgender prisoners in detention facilities designed for the opposite biological sex in a new LGBTQ rights plan released Thursday.

“I will direct the Bureau of Prisons to end the Trump Administration’s dangerous policy of imprisoning transgender people in facilities based on their sex assigned at birth,” Warren wrote in the plan.

Under the plan, transgender inmates would be placed in detention facilities that correspond to their gender identity rather than their biological sex, and would be entitled to tax-payer funded gender transition surgeries.

Both Warren and fellow candidate Joe Biden have expressed support for tax-payer funded transition surgeries before. At a September 20 Iowa LGBTQ conference, Biden said that the surgery should be covered by Obamacare.

In January of this year, Warren changed her stance on government-funded transition surgeries after it emerged that she had dismissed the notion that taxpayers should fund the cosmetic procedure in a 2012 interview.

“I have to say, I don’t think it’s a good use of taxpayer dollars,” she said at the time.

Bill de Blasio also declared his support for tax-payer funded gender transition surgery in July during his own presidential bid. De Blasio has since dropped out of the Democratic primary field following lackluster poll results.

Warren has consistently run to the left of the Democratic field on social issues since beginning her candidacy. On Wednesday she released a plan designed to combat climate change and “climate injustice,” pledging to invest $1.5 trillion over a decade to stop global warming and to help minority communities allegedly disproportionately affected by the warming.

“Our crisis of environmental injustice is the result of decades of discrimination and environmental racism compounding in communities that have been overlooked for too long,” the plan states.

In CA they are already kept separate from Gen Pop. But if you have a dick, you go to dick prison.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-17-2019, 11:25 AM
Virginia Kruta, Associate Editor - The Daily Caller


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Democratic Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard laid into CNN and the New York Times, saying Wednesday that when outlets accused her of treason they were making the same accusations against other veterans.

Gabbard joined Fox News host Tucker Carlson to discuss media attacks against her, particularly with regard to her support for the withdrawal of troops in Syria.


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Carlson asked Gabbard to respond to an undercover video, released by Project Veritas, that showed a CNN employee claiming that the network did not like her.

“Here is a CNN employee saying that for taking an unconventional foreign policy position, you are the one Democratic candidate that CNN doesn’t like. Does that surprise you?” Carlson asked.

“It doesn’t. You know, I think it’s kind of absurd actually that as we saw in the days leading up to the debate last night, both the New York Times and CNN both ran hit pieces. Today, the day after the debate, we see more of these hit pieces coming out,” Gabbard replied. “For them to sit there and try to portray themselves as neutral arbiters, as objective and independent entities working with the DNC to carry out a legitimate debate is frankly just a joke.”

Gabbard explained that she had been calling for nonprofit organizations to step up and host the debates, arguing that they might be more interested in serving the people than a profit margin.

Carlson went on to clarify what he meant when he said that Gabbard had been under attack by certain media outlets. “So just for our viewers who maybe haven’t followed this, when we say you’ve been attacked by the New York Times and CNN, it’s not attacks like they are saying your health care plan is too expensive,” he said. “They are saying that you are working for a foreign power against America’s interests, that you are a traitor to the country. The New York Times piece essentially said that. What is this about?”

Gabbard said that the attacks stemmed from her position on military intervention. “This is exactly what happens to those like myself who are trying to end this regime change war in Syria, who are calling for an end to our country’s policy of being the world police, bring about an end to these regime change wars,” she said.

But then Gabbard took it a step farther, saying that when outlets called her a traitor they were really saying the same things about other veterans who felt the same way that she did. “This is something that’s not just happening to me. You know, when they are issuing these smear attacks, really what they are doing is smearing anyone who is calling for an end to these regime change wars, including veterans who I meet almost every day all across this country who are not pacifists. They understand and know firsthand the cost of war and who are strongly, strongly calling for our country to put an end to these counterproductive regime change wars.”

“So when they are issuing these smears and calling me a traitor to my country, they are essentially issuing these smears and attacks to every veteran who has been willing to lay their lives down in service to our country,” Gabbard concluded.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-18-2019, 09:43 AM
By Nick Givas | Fox News


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Now is the time for Hillary Clinton to jump into the 2020 race for the White House and take advantage of the weak and fractured field, said Ben Shapiro on Thursday.

Shapiro claimed cracks are beginning to show with the current front-runners for the Democratic nomination and said voters aren't responding to their initial policy proposals.

"It appears there is some roiling tension inside that Democratic field. People are not satisfied with the field they have," he said on "The Ben Shapiro Show."

"Honestly, if Hillary Clinton were to make her grand reentrance, now would be about the time she should do it. Because the fact is, a lot of people are dissatisfied with [Joe] Biden. A lot of people are dissatisfied with [Elizabeth] Warren and Hillary is an enormous name."

Shapiro predicted that if Clinton got into the race she would easily clinch the nomination, but said she is unlikely to do so, paving the way for a Trump victory next November.


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"If she were to jump in right now, I think there's a pretty good shot she wins the nomination," he said. "Now, is she actually going to do that? Probably not. And that means the Democratic field is pretty, extraordinarily weak."

The Daily Wire editor-in-chief also targeted Warren directly and mocked her front-runner status, by calling her a dishonest liar.

"The budding impression of Elizabeth Warren is that she's dishonest," he said. "She lies about everything... she lies about her 'Medicare-for-all' plan... and she has now gone back and deleted her tweet about Native American DNA... she's a damn liar."

Last Wednesday Clinton mentioned a hypothetical 2020 run during a PBS News Hour interview and said she could defeat Trump "again" if she decided to jump back in.

"So maybe there does need to be a rematch," Clinton said. "Obviously, I can beat him again. But, just seriously, I don't understand, I don't think anybody understands what motivates him, other than personal grievance, other than seeking adulation."

Teh One Who Knocks
10-21-2019, 10:16 AM
By Nick Givas | Fox News


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President Trump's dishonest political rhetoric may have been inspired by Adolf Hitler's notorious propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels, 2020 presidential hopeful Beto O'Rourke said in a bold claim during a Sunday TV interview.

O'Rourke made the remarks on MSNBC's "PoliticsNation."

"President Trump, perhaps inspired by Goebbels and the propagandists of the Third Reich, seems to employ this tactic that the bigger the lie, the more obscene the injustice, the more dizzying the pace of this bizarre behavior, the less likely we are to be able to do something about it," he said.
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"I'm so grateful that not only is the House moving forward with impeachment, but... It's a good sign that he was caught, that he was stopped -- that he can no longer normalize the behavior that we've seen so far."

"Did I hear you correctly say that perhaps [Trump] was influenced by Goebbels and the Third Reich in terms of telling a big lie? I just want to make sure that's what I heard you say," Sharpton asked.

"That's right," O'Rourke replied. "There is so much that is resonant of the Third Reich in this administration, whether it is attempting to ban all people of one religion and saying that Muslims are somehow inherently dangerous or defective or disqualified -- outside of Nazi Germany, it's hard for me to find another modern democracy that had the audacity to say something like this.

"And then, this idea from Goebbels and Hitler that the bigger the lie and the more often you repeat it, the more likely people are to believe it. That is Donald Trump to a T," he added.

O'Rourke continued to bash Trump, saying the president has been sending out dog whistles of racism and hate.

"The signal that he is sending is being picked up by Americans who are willing to work on that hatred and racism," he said.

"We saw it brought home to us in El Paso... when someone repeating the president's own words in his manifesto, opened fire on people in El Paso, Texas, killing 22 of them in a Walmart... So this is the cost and consequence of Donald Trump."

lost in melb.
10-21-2019, 03:33 PM
:lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
10-21-2019, 05:00 PM
By Emily Zanotti - The Daily Wire


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President Donald Trump is presiding over a “money machine” and now has the most well-funded re-election campaign in history, according to fundraising numbers released last week.

Politico reports that Trump and the Republican National Coalition have raised more than $300 million, and the President alone has $158 million cash on hand to kick off his re-election bid, more than any other sitting president at this point in his campaign.

The numbers have Democrats worried, and at least one strategist told the Washington, D.C., based news outlet that, “[t]he resources he has will be put to work anywhere and everywhere that he feels like he can scare up electoral votes, and Democrats will never catch up. It’s just too much money.”

The Democratic presidential contenders, collectively, have outraised Trump, but as Democratic strategists point out, that money is going to cross-purposes. Each individual candidate is using their war chest to attack others, and there’s no guarantee that any candidate alone will be able to spark the same excitement alone as the field has, collectively.

The three candidates at the top have had difficulty raising from across the Democratic spectrum, for example. Former Vice President Joe Biden is reportedly “burning through funds” at too fast a rate to sustain his campaign into the general election, according to the Washington Examiner, spending 12% more than its taking in and 30% more than the campaign of Biden’s closest rival, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA).

But Warren has problems of her own. She’s cutting off high-dollar donors and refusing to appear at big money fundraisers, according to Variety Magazine — an approach that may win her fans among blue collar Democrats, but won’t help her fully fund a general election campaign.

“You can’t unilaterally disarm, especially considering the war chest that Donald Trump is going to have. You can’t go in as Grenada against the United States,” one Democratic strategist told the entertainment newsmagazine. “Elizabeth Warren has to figure out what is the best way to defeat Donald Trump, if she’s the nominee. If the best way is to get on the phone with somebody because you need that commercial time in Ohio, then that’s what you do.”

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is a proven fundraiser, but his appeal to mainstream Democrats is limited. And to make matters worse, one of the Democrats’ biggest donors, environmentalist and venture capitalist Tom Steyer, is running as a candidate for President and spending his cash on his own campaign (though he has pledged to give around $50 million to a Democratic war chest eventually).

Any Democrat that wants to compete with Trump will also have to raise the same amount of money — or more — in a much shorter period of time. If the nomination process goes down to the wire, the chosen Democratic nominee may have no more than a few months to knock out the sitting President, who is already running re-election ads in key states, a year ahead of the vote.

Trump is also, Politico reports, ahead of the game on donor identification. Since the re-election campaign began amassing in early 2019, it’s been running “an expensive, far-reaching effort to find new small-dollar donors,” and its working. In just the last fundraising quarter, Trump 2020 has identified more than 300,000 new donors for the cost of just $4.2 million.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-23-2019, 10:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1voYY6MqDM

PorkChopSandwiches
10-24-2019, 03:58 PM
:dance:

Muddy
10-24-2019, 05:20 PM
Careful... That hag may win this time around....

PorkChopSandwiches
10-24-2019, 05:24 PM
:rofl:

Muddy
10-24-2019, 06:32 PM
Go easy there, Dippy.. If you cant see how much of his base has been rattled by his antics you are really being naive.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-25-2019, 10:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv8suse8dWM

RBP
10-26-2019, 12:01 PM
Go easy there, Dippy.. If you cant see how much of his base has been rattled by his antics you are really being naive.

Not THAT rattled. :lol: Top two ranked Dems for undecided voters (swing Trump voters) are Yang and Biden.

Although she seems to have added a policy section to her website. :shock:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

Muddy
10-26-2019, 02:41 PM
Not THAT rattled. :lol: Top two ranked Dems for undecided voters (swing Trump voters) are Yang and Biden.

Although she seems to have added a policy section to her website. :shock:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

If Hillary jumped in she would destroy the competition..

RBP
10-26-2019, 02:46 PM
If Hillary jumped in she would destroy the competition..

Do you think she could beat Trump? I have said since 2008 that she was incapable of winning a national election.

Muddy
10-26-2019, 03:41 PM
Do you think she could beat Trump? I have said since 2008 that she was incapable of winning a national election.

I think she has a very good chance.. The continual barrage from the media takes its toll on people.. Say it enough and people start to believe it.

DemonGeminiX
10-27-2019, 03:38 AM
I don't think you're giving people enough credit.

lost in melb.
10-27-2019, 04:21 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/07/upshot/trump-approval-rating-rise.html

RBP
10-27-2019, 04:31 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/07/upshot/trump-approval-rating-rise.html

https://i.imgur.com/VSntGyq.gif

RBP
10-27-2019, 04:35 AM
I don't think you're giving people enough credit.

C'mon, man, Admit it. There's a part of you that wants to see Hillary lose again.

DemonGeminiX
10-27-2019, 08:13 AM
C'mon, man, Admit it. There's a part of you that wants to see Hillary lose again.

If she runs she will lose again, but the biggest part that annoys me about all of this speculation is more evidence that we have changed as a society for the worse. Before HRC in 2016, it used to be that the loser of the general election would accept defeat with quiet grace then bow out of the spotlight. Not anymore. And it seriously bothers me. We have fallen.

I don't want her to run again, I want her to finally be brought up on the charges that Comey listed out but didn't charge her with for the crimes she committed while she was Secretary of State. I want her to be tried and found guilty and sent to prison. I want the undeserved Teflon-Don nature of the Clinton's to fail and be over.

Pony
10-27-2019, 09:40 AM
I don't want her to run again, I want her to finally be brought up on the charges that Comey listed out but didn't charge her with for the crimes she committed while she was Secretary of State. I want her to be tried and found guilty and sent to prison. I want the undeserved Teflon-Don nature of the Clinton's to fail and be over.

Maybe she just will run so she can convince the public that Trump is only investigating her to sway the election.

DemonGeminiX
10-27-2019, 10:53 AM
Maybe she just will run so she can convince the public that Trump is only investigating her to sway the election.

It's like rain.... on your wedding day
It's a free ride.... when you've already paid
It's the good advice... that you just can't take
And who would've thought, it figures

lost in melb.
10-27-2019, 03:23 PM
C'mon, man, Admit it. There's a part of you that wants to see Hillary lose again.

Well I think she might win - but fear that she might lose has kept her at bay.

RBP
10-27-2019, 03:28 PM
If she runs she will lose again, but the biggest part that annoys me about all of this speculation is more evidence that we have changed as a society for the worse. Before HRC in 2016, it used to be that the loser of the general election would accept defeat with quiet grace then bow out of the spotlight. Not anymore. And it seriously bothers me. We have fallen.

I don't want her to run again, I want her to finally be brought up on the charges that Comey listed out but didn't charge her with for the crimes she committed while she was Secretary of State. I want her to be tried and found guilty and sent to prison. I want the undeserved Teflon-Don nature of the Clinton's to fail and be over.

That investigation has now been changed to a criminal probe.

RBP
10-27-2019, 03:29 PM
Well I think she might win - but fear that she might lose has kept her at bay.

Although the sadist in me wants to see the gnashing of teeth, wailing, and utter despair reaction to a second loss, I still doubt she'll get in.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-27-2019, 04:30 PM
https://i.imgur.com/zCRHgjLl.png

DemonGeminiX
10-27-2019, 08:25 PM
https://i.imgur.com/zCRHgjLl.png

You can still be with her when she's rotting away in jail. :tup:

lost in melb.
10-27-2019, 09:00 PM
That investigation has now been changed to a criminal probe.

That will go absolutely nowhere...

RBP
10-27-2019, 11:15 PM
That will go absolutely nowhere...

Maybe, I don't know. The whole initiation of the Russian probe was pretty dubious and the abuse of the FISA warrants looks pretty bad.

DemonGeminiX
10-27-2019, 11:54 PM
Someone's going to fall, maybe not the king of the castle. but someone will end up paying for it.

DemonGeminiX
10-31-2019, 05:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjvmkwIWF5w

Teh One Who Knocks
10-31-2019, 10:22 AM
By Louis Casiano | Fox News


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Presidential hopeful Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., said Wednesday that she agrees with a University of Massachusetts-Amherst economist who concluded a Medicare-for-All health care plan could result in substantial job losses, calling it "part of the cost issue."

Robert Pollin of UMass' Political Economy Research Institute told Kaiser Health News earlier this year that most of the job losses would hit administrative positions -- about half among insurers and half in hospitals and doctors' offices.

Warren was made aware of Pollin's conclusions during an interview with New Hampshire Public Radio.

“So, I agree," replied Warren. "I think this is part of the cost issue and should be part of a cost plan.

"Although do recognize on this what we're talking about, and that is in effect, how much of our health care dollars have not gone to health care?" she added.

Pollin said supporters of the ambitious health care overhaul would have to think about a "just transition" and what "it would look like" when implemented.

Medicare-for-All has become a point of contention among Democrats vying for the White House. Warren has come pressure from her presidential rivals to explain how she would raise the necessary $30 trillion over 10 years to fund the plan.

She failed to answer whether middle-class taxes would increase under her plan during this month's Democratic debate in Ohio and has side-stepped similar questions on the campaign trail.

Warren told McDermott she plans to release a detailed plan soon.

"We will see, most likely, rich people's costs go up, corporations costs go up, but the cost to middle-class families will go down," she said. "I will not sign any legislation into law for which costs for middle-class families do not go down."

A bipartisan study indicates it will be impossible to finance Warren's plan using only taxes on the wealthiest Americans.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., has said taxes will increase “for virtually everybody" but will ultimately cost less than what workers are currently paying "for premiums and out-of-pocket expenses."

Muddy
10-31-2019, 10:24 AM
Fuck insurance, shut them down..

perrhaps
11-01-2019, 09:46 AM
Fuck insurance, shut them down..

Agreed! Their profits are obscene, even after their bloated advertising expenditures.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-01-2019, 09:52 AM
Fuck insurance, shut them down..


Agreed! Their profits are obscene, even after their bloated advertising expenditures.

Yes, insurance companies are awful, but handing it over to the government would be worse.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-01-2019, 10:32 AM
By Emily Zanotti - The Daily Wire


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Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) thought The View was going to be friendly territory, but it turned out to be the only place he’s visited on the campaign trail where he was challenged about his gun control plan, including his bizarre proposed “gun buyback” scheme.

During Booker’s appearance on the daytime talk show Wednesday, The View’s Meghan McCain asked Booker pointed questions about his plan to pay for Americans to return their “assault weapons” to the government, and called the idea a “left-wing fever dream.”

Specifically, McCain wanted to know how Booker planned to get guns back from “red state” gun owners like her brother who refuse to turn them over to authorities.

“With all due respect,” McCain prodded, “I speak for a lot of red-state Americans…there’s a lot of Republicans you need to win over.”

“The gun buybacks,” she continued, “just tell me semantically how you’re going to get my brother’s gun back. He’s not giving it back.”

Backed into a corner, Booker couldn’t figure out what to say and resorted to comparing himself to former Texas Senate candidate Beto O’Rourke who recently said he’d send law enforcement to confiscate weapons from gun owners.

“Well, my point is this,” Booker stammered. “I’m not where Beto is, in the way he’s been talking about this.”

“Good, because he’s crazy,” McCain responded.

At one point, the exchange got heated.

“Look, machine guns we don’t have on the streets anymore, right? Because in the 1980s l, we banned them,” Booker offered.

“So you’re going to my brother’s house?” McCain shot back.

“No,” Booker answered, looking lost. “We can find an evidence based way to accomplish this as a country. Other countries have done it. We did with machine guns. Why are we playing into fear mongers that want to make you see this vision — that there’s people going to show up to your house and take your guns away.”

“From Australia to New Zealand, they banned them and they got them off the streets,” Booker finished.

“How Australia did it,” McCain replied. “This is America.”

WATCH:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oslktxvBrcg

McCain’s View co-host Sunny Hostin tried to throw Booker a lifeline with an assertion about how fewer guns mean less crime, but she was largely ignored.

The exchange clearly hit a sour note with the Booker campaign. Hours later, on Wednesday night, Booker’s campaign manager tweeted insults at Meghan McCain.

“Not sure what @MeghanMcCain was trying to accomplish with this question but @CoryBooker as usual handled it with grace, class and substance,” she wrote over a link to video of the exchange.

McCain fired back again.

“You’re Cory Booker’s campaign manager,” she tweeted back. “I asked a specific policy question – he says he’s the most direct candidate and all I got was a dodge.”
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“At least Beto is honest about the fact that he wants to take our guns away,” McCain continued.
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Indeed, there is a question as to what, precisely, Booker wants to do about guns. He supports a gun buyback program, but when asked, he doesn’t explain what happens if, as in New Zealand, only a handful of gun owners decide to part with their weapons.

On one occasion, back in May, Booker told CNN that he would back legislation that could get Americans “thrown in jail” if they refused to turn over assault weapons, according to the Washington Examiner, after a “reasonable period” following the institution of a buyback.

Since then, though — and especially since Beto O’Rourke grappled with the consequences of his own “buyback” program in public — Booker’s been less forthcoming about his own plan. Until now.

DemonGeminiX
11-01-2019, 02:08 PM
War's coming.

RBP
11-01-2019, 09:08 PM
I have said for years, even before the current bullshit about medicare for all, that medicare only exists because private insurance subsidizes it. There is research data to support this. The general guideline is that private insurance pays double what medicare does (medicare 50% lower). I have also seen 40% and an estimate that 80% of hospitals would be insolvent by accepting medicare only patients. The medicare for all idea is deeply flawed because the numbers do not work. The $52T price tag assumes reimbursements at medicare rates. It does not address the elephant in the room about private insurance subsidizing its existence.

If you want to go deeper...

How Much Would Medicare for All Cut Doctor and Hospital Reimbursements? (https://economics21.org/m4a-reimbursements-blahous)

Private Health Plans Pay Hospitals 241% of What Medicare Would Pay (https://www.rand.org/news/press/2019/05/09.html)

Teh One Who Knocks
11-01-2019, 11:13 PM
Beto bites the dust

lost in melb.
11-02-2019, 01:32 AM
War's coming.

A mini-one when they come for your bazookas :mrgreen:

lost in melb.
11-02-2019, 01:33 AM
Beto bites the dust

Oh, was he running for president? :-k

DemonGeminiX
11-02-2019, 01:40 AM
A mini-one when they come for your bazookas :mrgreen:

It won't be a mini-one.


Oh, was he running for president? :-k

Yes, the village idiot with a criminal record thought he could be a leader.

perrhaps
11-02-2019, 09:30 AM
War's coming.

With respect, you sound like my father did when The Beatles flew into America.

Muddy
11-02-2019, 10:03 AM
With respect, you sound like my father did when The Beatles flew into America.

:lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
11-04-2019, 11:27 AM
By Frank Camp - The Daily Wire


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A new Harvard-Harris national poll has former Vice President Joe Biden running a substantial lead ahead of his closest rivals, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA).

Democratic voters were asked: “Which of the following candidates are you most likely to vote for in a Democratic primary?”

33% selected Biden, 18% selected Sanders, and 15% selected Warren. No other candidate came close to double digits. 8% were “not sure.”

When independents were added to the Democratic group, the numbers shifted, but the positions remained the same. 25% for Biden, 15% for Sanders, and 12% for Warren. 14% were “not sure.”

When asked about their level of commitment to the candidates they selected, 60% said they “might change” their minds, while 40% said they were “committed” to their choice.

Here’s where things get interesting – the survey asked respondents to choose a candidate if the pool were expanded to include Hillary Clinton, Michael Bloomberg, and John Kerry.

Once these candidates are added to the mix, the race changes dramatically. Biden still leads with 19% of the Democratic vote, but Clinton comes in second with 18%. Warren falls to 13%, and Sanders to 12%.

When independents are added to the pool, the race gets even tighter, with Biden and Clinton tied at 13% each. Warren and Sanders also tie at 10% each.

The idea of Hillary Clinton entering the race at this late stage has been floated by several people. Even Clinton herself has been making the rounds on talk shows and podcasts, calling President Trump “an illegitimate president” on multiple occasions.

After Trump tweeted about Clinton in early-October, the former secretary of state said the following to Judy Woodruff on “PBS NewsHour”:


You know, it truly is remarkable how obsessed he remains with me … maybe there does need to be a rematch. Obviously, I can beat him again. But, just seriously, I don’t understand, I don’t think anybody understands what motivates him.

Speaking recently with Fox News’ Tucker Carlson, former Clinton advisor Philippe Reines said: “You know, she ran for president because she thought she would be the best president. If she still thought that now, if she thought she had the best odds of beating Donald Trump – I think she would think about it long and hard.”

When Carlson suggested that Clinton “hasn’t foreclosed the possibility,” Reines replied: “No, she has not.”

On October 22, The New York Times published a piece about Democratic donors wondering about the state of the race:


When a half-dozen Democratic donors gathered at the Whitby Hotel in Manhattan last week, the dinner began with a discussion of which presidential candidates the contributors liked. But as conversations among influential Democrats often go these days, the meeting quickly evolved into a discussion of who was not in the race — but could be lured in.

Would Hillary Clinton get in, the contributors wondered, and how about Michael R. Bloomberg, the former New York mayor? One person even mused whether Michelle Obama would consider a late entry, according to two people who attended the event, which was hosted by the progressive group American Bridge.

At a Georgetown University Law School event on Wednesday, former President Bill Clinton told the crowd: “She may or may not ever run for anything, but I can’t legally run for president again.”

Hillary Clinton may be battered and bruised, having lost to Donald Trump in 2016 and Barack Obama in 2008, but there remains a certain segment of the Democratic electorate that would vote for her regardless. The question remains – will she throw her tattered hat into the ring?

DemonGeminiX
11-04-2019, 01:48 PM
With respect, you sound like my father did when The Beatles flew into America.

:-s

What did your dad have against the Beatles?

perrhaps
11-05-2019, 10:02 AM
:-s

What did your dad have against the Beatles?

Other than their hair, beats me. Of course, I was only 10 or 11 at the time.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-08-2019, 12:12 PM
Isaac Saul - Independent Journal Review


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Mayor Pete Buttigieg has surged to the front of the pack in Iowa, according to a new Quinnipiac poll.

In the latest polls released, Buttigieg received 19 percent of support from likely Iowa caucus-goers, second only to Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Ma.). That leaves the small-town Mayor ahead of both Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and former Vice President Joe Biden, two frontrunners in the race.

The Quinnipiac poll comes just days after a New York Times/Siena College poll showed Buttigieg leading Biden in Iowa, the presumptive frontrunner in the race.

Historically, candidates who win in Iowa — the first state to vote in the primary — are able to build momentum behind their campaigns. That’s why the coveted battleground state is one of the most popular campaign stops, and that’s why the news of Buttigieg’s surge to the front could usher in a new chapter of the race.
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Throughout his campaign, Buttigieg has been selling himself as someone who understands the Rust Belt midwest and can connect with liberal, cosmopolitan voters too. As the positive poll numbers came in, he embraced the new momentum from a campaign stop in Iowa.

“Well, friends, this is what it feels like when you realize you are definitely going to be the next president of the United States!” he told an excited crowd in Des Moines, according to The Chicago Tribune. “This is what it feels like to build a movement. This is what it feels like to insist on change.”

Some onlookers weren’t as thrilled about the news. Walker Bragman, a far-left reporter and pundit, said if Buttigieg does well in Iowa it will only prove that “corporate money can buy limited success for even unknown candidates.”

There’s still plenty of time for things to change. The same Quinnipiac poll found that just around half of all likely caucus-goers were open to changing their mind before the election, and national polls still show Buttigieg trailing other top-tier candidates like Warren, Biden and Sanders. For now, the campaign is embracing what might be an early election victory.

RBP
11-08-2019, 12:15 PM
Other than their hair, beats me. Of course, I was only 10 or 11 at the time.

I'm sorry your dad beat you. :sad2:

perrhaps
11-09-2019, 10:29 AM
Just read that Bloomberg is trying to get on the ballot in Alabama.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-13-2019, 11:05 AM
By Andrew O'Reilly | Fox News


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Hillary Clinton continued to stir speculation on Tuesday that she could make a late entry into the 2020 Democratic presidential primary, saying “many, many, many people” are pressuring her to consider a third run for the White House.

The former secretary of state said during an interview with BBC Radio 5 Live that she hasn't ruled out joining the already-crowded Democratic fray looking to be the nominee to challenge President Trump in next year’s general election.

“I, as I say, never, never, never say never,” Clinton said. “I will certainly tell you, I’m under enormous pressure from many, many, many people to think about it.”

Clinton added: “But as of this moment, sitting here in this studio talking to you, that is absolutely not in my plans."

While previous election cycles have seen the list of potential nominees winnow down as the first primaries approach, the 2020 Democratic primary looks different. With no clear front-runner and shifting polls, a number of potential candidates have indicated an interest in launching a late bid for the presidency.

Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire former mayor of New York City, filed paperwork last week to qualify for the primary in Alabama and has spent the past few weeks talking with prominent Democrats about the state of the 2020 field, expressing concerns about the steadiness of former Vice President Joe Biden's campaign and the rise of liberal Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.

Former Attorney General Eric Holder has also reportedly been considering entering the primary. Newsweek reported last Friday that Holder had spoken with strategists about a potential run. And on Monday, sources close to former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick told The Associated Press that he's mulling a White House run, as well.

If Clinton were to join the race, she would quickly become the biggest figure in the Democratic field. She has twice run for president in the past, losing the Democratic nomination to then-Sen. Barack Obama in 2008 and losing the general election in a close race to Trump in 2016.

Rumors about Clinton entering the 2020 race, however, have been circulating for a while, with Mark Penn, an adviser and pollster to Bill and Hillary Clinton from 1995 to 2008, making waves last year by predicting in The Wall Street Journal that Clinton would return in 2020 as a “liberal firebrand."

Despite the rumors, Clinton’s supporters in early voting states don’t think she’ll be entering the race in 2020.

“I don’t think she’s running again,” incoming New Hampshire Senate President Donna Soucy, a four-term Democratic state senator who backed Clinton’s 2008 and 2016 presidential campaigns, told Fox News.

“I know the rumors floating out there that that’s a possibility,” Soucy added. “I don’t believe for a second that it is.”

Teh One Who Knocks
11-13-2019, 12:04 PM
By Emily Zanotti - The Daily Wire


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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) told ABC News Monday night that his new campaign trail-mate, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) would play a significant role in his White House if he is elected president.

ABC News wanted to know whether Sanders was considering Ocasio-Cortez as a potential running mate in the unlikely event he snags the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination and goes on to face President Donald Trump in a general election.

Sanders was non-committal on the answer but did say that Ocasio-Cortez would have a significant role in shaping both domestic and foreign policy in a Sanders administration.

“Look, I’ve said this before, let me say it again and I don’t want you to hear this because your head will explode,” Sanders said in the joint interview with the freshman New York legislator. “I don’t know of any person who, in the course of less than one year, has had more of an impact on American politics as a freshman member of Congress than she has.”

“It’s not only that she has focus on the real issues impacting the American people, like climate change, the usury rates that Wall Street are charging working people in this country, but she has been an inspiration to working people all across this country and to young people in particular,” Sanders gushed.

“I happen to believe that the future of this country depends on young people becoming increasingly involved in the political process and there’s nobody I know that can do a better job inspiring young people than Alexandria,” he continued.

“If I’m in the White House, she will play a very, very important role. No question. One way or another, absolutely,” Sanders concluded, acknowledging that her role could be a “Cabinet-level” position.

Ocasio-Cortez was among the first of the Congressional progressives to endorse Sanders, and has since brought fellow “squad” members, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) and Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), along for the ride. Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-MA), the fourth member of the “squad” bucked the trend with a more logical endorsement, throwing her support behind Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA).

Sanders has definitely reaped benefits from Ocasio-Cortez’s support, commanding more headlines and drawing more supporters to his events. His campaign re-launch, which came just a little over a week before the aging Senator suffered a mild heart attack, was one of his largest rallies to date. The Brooklyn gathering, which featured Ocasio-Cortez announcing her support for Sanders, drew thousands.

Sanders had hoped that Ocasio-Cortez, who grew up in a tony suburb of New York City and attended a pricey university before moving back to the Bronx to work as a waitress and bartender, would connect with the blue collar and working class Democrats he’ll need to secure both the nomination and win the election, according to TIME magazine.

Although Ocasio-Cortez has brought a measure of excitment to the geriatric politico’s campaign, she hasn’t really brought the target demographic. In a New York Times poll released last week, Trump bested Sanders in all of the key “battleground” states in the working class Rust Belt. The only candidate challenging Trump for the presidency was former Vice President Joe Biden, widely criticized by progressives like Ocasio-Cortez who believe — without much evidence — that the electorate has taken a significant shift leftward since 2006.

DemonGeminiX
11-13-2019, 12:56 PM
He's definitely not getting elected now.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-13-2019, 12:58 PM
Secretary of State Ocasio-Cortez? :-k

DemonGeminiX
11-13-2019, 04:11 PM
There'd be no way that the FBI would be able to defend her when she fucks up.

Muddy
11-13-2019, 04:14 PM
Make AOC a bartender again.

DemonGeminiX
11-14-2019, 01:19 PM
Deval Patrick has declared he's in for the Dem nomination.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-15-2019, 01:22 PM
By Amie Parnes - The Hill


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Pete Buttigieg is surging in the 2020 primary, capitalizing on a Democratic Party wrestling with its political identity.

In a year when Democrats are struggling to choose between a string of septuagenarian candidates, strategists say the 37-year-old South Bend, Ind., mayor has become an alternative choice, tapping into a desire for a fresh face in Washington.

Democrats are also battling over how far left to go in the primary, but Buttigieg may be a candidate who appeals to centrists without turning off liberals.

Political observers and strategists say this appeal is one of the main reasons Buttigieg, who is a veteran and also gay, has surging toward the top of polls.

“He’s trying to be the Goldilocks ‘just right’ candidate in between everyone,” said Democratic strategist Eddie Vale.

When Buttigieg announced his candidacy, the chance of him winning the nomination seemed like a long shot.

Voters didn’t know much about him and couldn’t pronounce his name. He had a staff of four, including an intern. Some news organizations wouldn’t add him to their primary graphics.

Less than a year later, Buttigieg has a staff of 469 people, what pundits call a commanding presence at town halls and a rash of good headlines.

“I think one of the biggest factors not getting enough attention is they're doing a really good job campaigning,” said Vale. “They’re doing lots of events [and] interviews.”

It’s “definitely possible” Buttigieg could win the nomination, Vale said, because “his rise is coming from a good foundation, not just a viral moment.”

Buttigieg has emerged as an alternative to Joe Biden and most political observers see the Indianan as pulling votes from the former vice president. But he also appears to be winning support from other candidates, including some to his left.

“As far as I can tell, he's taken a little away from everyone,” said Democratic strategist Michael Trujillo.

A Monmouth University poll in Iowa released this week found Buttigieg winning 22 percent of likely caucus-goers compared to 19 percent for Biden, 18 percent for Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and 13 percent for Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

Buttigieg gained 14 points since August, the last time Monmouth surveyed caucus-goers. Biden lost 7 points while Warren lost two points in the survey while Sanders gained five points.

“There’s no doubt about it — as the primary cycle continues, Mayor Pete’s appeal is only growing,” said Democratic strategist Lynda Tran. “The latest poll certainly puts the wind at his back heading into Iowa.”

Buttigieg’s fundraising has propelled his campaign. He raised more than $19 million in the third quarter, beating some of his competitors and becoming the candidate Hollywood A-listers have most supported with their checkbooks.

Buttigieg does face some hurdles — particularly his low support with black supporters. It is difficult to imagine he will win the nomination unless he can improve his standing with African Americans.

In South Carolina, where Biden performs particularly well because of his strong support among black voters, Buttigieg ranks sixth, according to an average of polls in South Carolina conducted by Real Clear Politics.

Aware of his weakness with black voters, the Buttigieg campaign made a $2 million ad buy in the state on Thursday, hoping to build support. In the first radio ad, Buttigieg highlights his time as a naval intelligence officer in Afghanistan contrasting it with President Trump's reality television career.

In the spot he also pledges "to do something about gun violence, to tackle systemic racism wherever we find it until your race in this country has no bearing on your health, or your wealth, your life expectancy or your relationship with law enforcement."

Buttigieg's age and lack of experience could also weigh him down, Democrats say, particularly in a campaign season where the party’s voters are locked-in on finding the candidate who can defeat President Trump.

“If Donald Trump wasn’t a factor, he would easily be the frontrunner. He’s young, very smart and dynamic,” the Democratic strategist said.

Some voters might not feel comfortable nominating a candidate who is only 37 years old.

The youngest president ever elected to the office was John F. Kennedy, who was 43 when he took the oath of office.

President Obama was one of the younger presidents ever elected in the United States. But he was about a decade older when he took office than Buttigieg is now.

“I don’t know if I feel comfortable voting for someone younger than me. I think that's a confusing dilemma for me,” Trujillo acknowledged, adding that other voters may feel the same way.

Trujillo said Buttigieg hasn’t also been scrutinized the way other candidates have so far.

“He has the appeal because he really hasn’t been under the microscope,” Trujillo added. “Once the bright lights are on you, things get a little bumpier.

But more than anything, Buttigieg will have to prove his electability against Trump.

“I like what he stands for a lot but I have my doubts about whether he can beat him,” one major Democratic donor said. “I don’t see how the mayor of South Bend Indiana ends up winning.”

Teh One Who Knocks
11-21-2019, 11:37 AM
By Gregg Re | FOX News


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Pete Buttigieg, whose popularity has surged in recent days, found himself the sudden target of attacks at Wednesday night's fifth Democratic primary debate but sought to stay on the offensive and make an appeal to the country's political middle with a blunt rebuke of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders' "Medicare-for-all" plan.

He was joined by several other candidates on stage in going after the health care overhaul, putting the party's far-left candidates on their heels over what Buttigieg called their "divisive" and unrealistic approach.

Reflecting the ever-shifting dynamic in the race, meanwhile, Joe Biden had a mixed performance -- projecting foreign policy strength and siding with Buttigieg against the liberal wing on health care, while also suffering some stumbles on the debate stage. Until recently the unrivaled front-runner in the race, Biden competed for attention Wednesday with three other top-tier candidates -- Warren, Sanders and Buttigieg -- but flubbed when he erroneously stated in front of Sen. Kamala Harris that he had the support of the "only" black woman elected to the Senate.

In an odd moment, he also said it's important to "keep punching at" the problem of domestic violence, noting that it's "rarely" needed for men to hit women in self-defense.

The debate was the candidates' first meeting since Warren said she would gradually guide the nation toward Medicare-for-all, supposedly paid for with a host of tax hikes on the rich and other measures. One by one, several of the candidates -- including Biden, Sen. Cory Booker and Sen. Amy Klobuchar -- raised objections to that plan.

"I’m not going to go for things just because they sound good on a bumper sticker and then throw in a free car," Klobuchar said at one point.

Buttigieg called for health care reform "without the divisive step of ordering people onto it," saying that "commanding people to accept that option" is not the right approach.
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"We have a majority to do the right thing if we can galvanize, not polarize, that majority," the South Bend mayor said.

And, in a particularly spirited moment, New Jersey Sen. Booker directly took on Warren's proposed wealth tax, saying it would be ineffective as a means of funding her Medicare-for-all plan, along with her proposals to provide free college tuition and erasing student loan debt.

Democrats need to be focused on growing wealth, Booker said, not simply taxing it. Republicans have asserted that, even if all billionaires were somehow taxed out of existence without causing any capital markets distortion, the resulting revenues in the best case scenario would barely pay for three years of Medicare-for-all. (The world's 2,150 billionaires have an approximate combined net worth of $8.7 trillion, and the progressive Urban Institute has said that Medicare-for-all would cost on average $10.2 trillion for three years.)

Vermont Sen. Sanders, who is arguing for a more immediate shift to a single-payer system, separately sparred with Biden on the issue. Biden argued that Medicare-for-all could not pass Congress, in part because it would force people to lose their private insurance.

"I trust the American people to make a judgment about what is in their interest, and not demand of them what the insurance companies want," Biden said. He continued to push for modifications to Obama-era health care reforms instead.
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On foreign policy, Biden sounded an authoritative note, declaring that he would restrict arms sales to Saudi Arabia following the murder of dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi. “We have to speak loudly on violations of human rights," he said, unequivocally holding Crown Prince Mohammad Bin Salman responsible for Khashoggi's death.

Later, in a somewhat awkward moment, Biden prompted some laughter in the audience when he declared that "we gotta keep punching at" the problem of domestic violence, and that it is only acceptable to hit a woman in "self-defense," which he said would "rarely" occur.

And, Biden asserted that he had the support of "the only African-American woman who’s ever been elected to the United States Senate" -- prompting Booker and Harris to dryly remark, "That's not true."

Harris noted, “The other one is here.” Biden later corrected himself to say he had the support of the first African-American woman elected to the Senate, referring to former Illinois Democratic Sen. Carol Moseley Braun.
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In another notable one-on-one moment, Sanders, touting the benefits of socialism in a discussion with billionaire Tom Steyer, argued that America only has "eight or nine" years left to reverse catastrophic effects of climate change, including cities going "underwater." United Nations experts made similar claims all the way back in 1989.

As the heated discussion unfolded at the MSNBC debate in Atlanta, Hawaii Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard -- who was recently accused by Hillary Clinton of being a "Russian asset" -- offered a blunt assessment: "Our Democratic Party, unfortunately, is not the party that is of, by and for the people," she said.

Gabbard also doubled down on earlier comments that Clinton represents the “personification of the rot in the Democratic Party.” She said the party is influenced by a “foreign policy establishment” that supports regime-change wars. She called it the “Bush, Clinton, Trump foreign policy doctrine.” (Harris then attacked Gabbard for appearing on Fox News.)
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Separately, Gabbard unloaded on Buttigieg after he attacked her for a widely-panned meeting with Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, who is accused of war crimes.

"You would lack the courage to meet with both adversaries and friends," Gabbard shot back, noting that former President John F. Kennedy met with his counterpart in the Soviet Union.

Klobuchar also pointedly criticized Buttigieg, arguing that he "said the right words" as a "local official" but lacks needed experience.

"I actually have the experience," Klobuchar remarked.

"Washington experience is not the only experience that matters," Buttigieg retorted. "There's more than 100 years of Washington experience on this stage, and where are we right now as a country?"

Meanwhile, Warren unloaded on U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland just hours after his explosive impeachment hearing testimony, saying at Wednesday night's primary debate that he bought his position "by writing a check for $1 million" to Trump's inaugural committee.

Warren vowed that if she were elected, "We are not going to give the ambassador posts to the highest bidder" -- signaling that the Massachusetts Democratic senator would use the proceedings to advance her outsider message.

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However, The Washington Free Beacon noted that Warren repeatedly voted to confirm several of former President Barack Obama's donors to ambassadorships, even when they lacked relevant experience.

"Read the Mueller report, all 442 pages of it, that show how the president tried to obstruct justice," Warren said. "We have to establish the principle that no one is above the law. We have a constitutional responsibility, and we need to meet it."

Others on stage also slammed President Trump over the impeachment proceedings.

“We have a criminal living in the White House,” Harris, D-Calif., declared. Citing Sondland's claim that everyone was "in the loop" on Ukraine talks at the heart of the probe, she said "that means it is a criminal enterprise engaged in by the president" and other top officials.

Not everyone on stage committed to voting to convict the president if he were impeached, however. Klobuchar suggested she wanted Trump removed, but emphasized the importance of seeing all the evidence.

"I have made it very clear that this is impeachable conduct. ... I just believe our jurors is to look at each count and make a decision," Klobuchar said, before saying that Trump repeatedly "puts his own private interests ... in front of our country's interest."

The debate's initial attention on Trump and Medicare-for-all took some heat off Buttigieg, at least for the debate's beginning moments. His dramatic rise from little-known Indiana mayor to a leading Democratic presidential candidate faced its toughest test on Wednesday, with rivals eager to stall his momentum.

Harris and Buttigieg engaged in a tense but respectful conversation later on in the evening, as Harris discussed the importance of not taking "women of color" for granted.

"I do sometimes feel like a stranger in my own country," Buttigieg, who is openly gay, remarked.

The debate in Atlanta marked the first time Buttigieg faced other White House hopefuls as an undisputed member of the top tier.

The 37-year old mayor of South Bend, Indiana, gained significant ground in recent months in Iowa, which holds the nation’s first caucuses in February. He is bunched at the top of most polls in Iowa with candidates who have much longer political resumes.

Veteran Democratic consultant and communications strategist Lynda Tran said Buttigieg “is on the rise, and that means he should anticipate the other candidates on stage this week to set their sights on his campaign.”

Some surveys are beginning to show him taking a more convincing lead in the race, at least in early-voting states.
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Buttigieg still faces plenty of hurdles to clinching the Democratic nomination, particularly winning over black and other minority voters. But his Iowa rise means he could come under fire from his rivals like never before.

Biden, Warren and Sanders have all faced similar scrutiny in previous debates, and those attacks did little to change the trajectory of the race.

The debate unfolded at a moment of uncertainty about the Democratic field, with some in the party, particularly donors, worried there’s no one positioned to defeat President Trump. Former President Barack Obama took the unusual step last week of warning the party against moving too far to the left.

Speaking to that anxiety, former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick entered the Democratic race last week. Billionaire Michael Bloomberg, the former New York City mayor, is openly flirting with a bid.

Neither Patrick nor Bloomberg were onstage Wednesday.

With less than three months before voting, much of the nation’s political attention would typically be focused on the primary. Instead, the focus is on the impeachment inquiry against Trump.

Booker faces especially intense pressure. He’s yet to meet the Democratic National Committee’s polling requirements for the December debate, and his campaign acknowledges that he needs to capitalize on the national spotlight.

The New Jersey senator took an apparent shot at Buttigieg at one point, following the news that his campaign had used a stock photo of a woman in Kenya who apparently had nothing to do with the campaign.

“I want to turn back to the issue of black voters," Booker said. "I have a lifetime of experience with black voters. I’ve been one since I was 18. Nobody on this stage should need a focus group to hear from African-American voters."

In his rousing closing statement Wednesday night, Booker claimed to throw out his prepared remarks to discuss the "debt" that all Americans owed because of the country's racist history.

"It is time to fight, and fight together," Booker said, as the audience applauded.

Gabbard, for her closing remarks, urged Democrats to defeat the "divisiveness of Donald Trump" and "make Dr. King's dream a reality."

In his closing statement, Buttigieg offered an olive branch to "progressives," as well as "moderates" and "a lot of future former Republicans," emphasizing his efforts to win over moderates throughout the contentious evening.

"I want you to know that everybody is welcome in this movement that we're building," Buttigieg remarked.

After the candidates left the stage, progressive author and Democratic presidential candidate Marianne Williamson -- who didn't qualify for Wednesday's debate -- tweeted simply, "Miss me?
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Teh One Who Knocks
11-21-2019, 11:48 AM
By Brie Stimson | Fox News


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A campaign event for former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, who launched a late Democratic presidential bid last week, reportedly was canceled Wednesday evening when only two people showed up.

Patrick was scheduled to speak at Morehouse College in Atlanta, a historically black men's college located not far from the site of Wednesday night's Democratic presidential debate. The event was organized by students from the New Deal Democrats.
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The student organization told ABC News it was given only given 24 hours’ notice about the event and the campaign said Patrick canceled because he was late from another event and had to catch a flight.

The campaign added that Patrick would reschedule his Morehouse visit, Haslett reported.

Patrick filed Nov. 14 to be on the New Hampshire primary ballot in February.

It's not the first time Patrick has had trouble filling a room. New York Times reporter Jennifer Medina tweeted a photo of a nearly empty room at another event on Monday.
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Both Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg have spoken at the historically black college. Bernie Sanders is scheduled there Thursday.

DemonGeminiX
11-25-2019, 07:01 PM
Anti-gun billionaire douche-nozzle extraordinaire Michael Bloomberg has officially launched his bid for the Democratic nomination.

Muddy
11-25-2019, 07:58 PM
Anti-gun billionaire douche-nozzle extraordinaire Michael Bloomberg has officially launched his bid for the Democratic nomination.

I think anti-gun is a prerequisite for being a Democrat.