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Teh One Who Knocks
04-18-2019, 10:48 AM
By Gregg Re | Fox News


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Nearly two years of fevered speculation surrounding Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe will come to a head in a dramatic television finale-like moment on Thursday morning at 9:30 a.m. ET, when Attorney General William Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein are set to hold a press conference to discuss the Mueller report's public release.

It was not immediately clear exactly when on Thursday the DOJ would release the redacted version of the nearly 400-page investigation into Russian election meddling, but the document was expected to be delivered to lawmakers and posted online by noon. With just hours to go until that moment, hopes for finality amid a deep national divide -- and persistent accusations of far-flung conspiracies -- are all but certain to remain unrealized.

Although Barr has already revealed that Mueller's report absolved the Trump team of illegally colluding with Russia, Democrats have signaled that the release will be just the beginning of a no-holds-barred showdown with the Trump administration over the extent of report redactions, as well as whether the president obstructed justice during the Russia investigation.

Trump’s legal team is preparing to issue a comprehensive rebuttal report on Thursday, to challenge any allegations of obstruction against the president, Fox News has learned.

The lawyers originally laid out their rebuttal in response to written questions asked by Mueller’s team of the president last year, according to a source close to Trump's legal team.

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Barr has said redactions in the report's release are legally mandated.to protect four broad areas of concern: sensitive grand jury-related matters, classified information, ongoing investigations and the privacy or reputation of uncharged "peripheral" people.

Those individuals, Barr said, did not include Trump. "No, I'm talking about people in private life, not public officeholders," the attorney general said at a hearing last week.

In a filing in the ongoing Roger Stone prosecution on Wednesday, the DOJ revealed that certain members of Congress will be able to see the Mueller report "without certain redactions" in a secure setting. Stone, a longtime confidant of the president, is awaiting trial on charges including giving false statements and obstructing justice.

Barr and Rosenstein are expected to take questions at the Thursday press conference, which was first announced in a radio interview by Trump and confirmed by the DOJ, and they'll likely be pressed on the precise nature of the final redactions.

The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Democrat New York Rep. Jerrold Nadler, has said he is prepared to issue subpoenas "very quickly" for the full report if it is released with blacked-out sections, likely setting in motion a major legal battle.

Grand jury information, including witness interviews, is normally off limits but can be obtained in court. Some records were eventually released in the Whitewater investigation into former President Bill Clinton and an investigation into President Richard Nixon before he resigned.

Both of those cases were under somewhat different circumstances, including that the House Judiciary Committee had initiated impeachment proceedings. Federal court rules state that a court may order disclosure "preliminary to or in connection with a judicial proceeding," but prominent Democrats -- including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi -- have dismissed suggestions that Trump should face impeachment.

Another major area of scrutiny will be Barr's decision, along with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, that Mueller had not uncovered sufficient evidence to prosecute Trump for obstruction of justice.

In his four-page summary of Mueller's findings released late last month, Barr stated definitively that Mueller did not establish evidence that Trump's team or any associates of the Trump campaign had conspired with Russia to sway the 2016 election -- "despite multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign."

But on obstruction, Barr wrote that Mueller had laid out evidence on "both sides" of the issue, even as he acknowledged that it would be more difficult to prosecute an obstruction case without evidence of any underlying crime. That evidence, on Thursday, will go under the microscope.

The report may also contain unflattering details about the president's efforts to exert control over the Russia investigation. And it may paint the Trump campaign as eager to exploit Russian aid and emails stolen from Democrats and Hillary Clinton's campaign.

The report's release will also be a test of Barr's credibility, as the public and Congress judge the veracity of a letter he released relaying what were purported to be Mueller's principal conclusions.

Barr, who was unanimously confirmed by the Senate to the role of attorney general in 1991 before reclaiming the role in February, has endured withering criticism from Democrats who say he is covering for the president.

After Barr announced plans for the Thursday press conference, Nadler quickly charged that Barr "appears to be waging a media campaign" on behalf of Trump.

In a statement joined by several other Democrat committee chairs late Wednesday, Nadler called for Barr to cancel the press conference.

"This press conference, which apparently will not include Special Counsel Mueller, is unnecessary and inappropriate, and appears designed to shape public perceptions of the report before anyone can read it," the Democrats wrote. "[Barr] should let the full report speak for itself. The Attorney General should cancel the press conference and provide the full report to Congress, as we have requested. With the Special Counsel’s fact-gathering work concluded, it is now Congress’ responsibility to assess the findings and evidence and proceed accordingly.”

Mueller is known to have investigated multiple efforts by the president over the last two years to influence the Russia probe or shape public perception of it.

In addition to examining former FBI Director James Comey's firing, Mueller scrutinized the president's reported request that Comey end an investigation into Trump's first national security adviser; his relentless attacks on former Attorney General Jeff Sessions over his recusal from the Russia investigation; and his role in drafting an incomplete explanation about a meeting his oldest son took at Trump Tower with a Kremlin-connected lawyer.

But this week, Trump, who has long said that voicing his opinions about the "witch hunt" against him wasn't a crime -- showed no signs of backing down.

"Wow! FBI made 11 payments to Fake Dossier’s discredited author, Trump hater Christopher Steele," Trump wrote on Wednesday. "The Witch Hunt has been a total fraud on your President and the American people! It was brought to you by Dirty Cops, Crooked Hillary and the DNC.

On Monday, he wrote: "Mueller, and the A.G. based on Mueller findings (and great intelligence), have already ruled No Collusion, No Obstruction. These were crimes committed by Crooked Hillary, the DNC, Dirty Cops and others! INVESTIGATE THE INVESTIGATORS!"
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Republicans, including House Intelligence Committee ranking member Devin Nunes, have pushed aggressively for answers into the origins of the Mueller probe, which began shortly after Trump fired Comey in May 2017.

Trump cited several justifications for terminating Comey, including what the president called his mismanagement of the Hillary Clinton email probe, and Comey's refusal to publicly announce that the president was not under investigation.

The former FBI head acknowledged in testimony in December that when the bureau initiated its counterintelligence probe into possible collusion between Trump campaign officials and the Russian government in July 2016, investigators "didn't know whether we had anything."

An op-ed in The Washington Post earlier in the week, entitled "Admit it: Fox News has been right all along," pointed to the role in the media in spreading the Russia collusion narrative.

Justice Department legal opinions say that a sitting president cannot be indicted, but Barr said he did not take that into account when he decided the evidence was insufficient to establish obstruction.

That conclusion was perhaps not surprising given Barr's own unsolicited memo to the Justice Department from last June in which he said a president could not obstruct justice by taking actions — like the firing of an FBI director — that he is legally empowered to take.

Overall, Mueller brought charges against 34 people — including six Trump aides and advisers — and revealed a Russian effort to influence the 2016 presidential election.

Twenty-five of those charged were Russians accused either in the hacking of Democratic email accounts or of a hidden but powerful social media effort to spread disinformation online.

Five former Trump aides or advisers pleaded guilty to charges unrelated to collusion and agreed to cooperate in Mueller's investigation, including former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, former national security adviser Michael Flynn and his former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen.

Fox News' Brooke Singman, Jake Gibson and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

RBP
04-18-2019, 11:28 AM
:popcorn:

The (D) and the MSM are going to dig a hole too large to crawl out of in 2020 if they keep this up. Continuing this obsession is going to make everything Trump said about them look absolutely true.

It will also create the environment that pushes a far left counter-balance to the top of the ticket, another death blow for 2020. I am amazed they are this politically inept.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-18-2019, 11:35 AM
:popcorn:

The (D) and the MSM are going to dig a hole too large to crawl out of in 2020 if they keep this up. Continuing this obsession is going to make everything Trump said about them look absolutely true.

It will also create the environment that pushes a far left counter-balance to the top of the ticket, another death blow for 2020. I am amazed they are this politically inept.

They're going to find some "i" that isn't dotted or a "t" that isn't crossed and say that's the evidence of collusion right there. They (D) are in a giant pool of quicksand and instead of grabbing a vine, they just wave their arms and yell and sink farther into the abyss. In some ways it's actually sad because the party of the democrats actually used to stand for something.

Muddy
04-18-2019, 12:38 PM
This is getting so old.. Jesus people.. Run the god damn government and do your fucking jobs...

Teh One Who Knocks
04-18-2019, 12:49 PM
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DemonGeminiX
04-18-2019, 01:02 PM
Well, fuck you. You're not getting the full Mueller report.

RBP
04-18-2019, 01:15 PM
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He legally can't do that. People are morons.

RBP
04-18-2019, 02:49 PM
Saw Barr's presser. Laid it out clearly. Report will be publicly available by noon.

Last question was: "Do you think it's an impropriety for you to come out spinning the report before the public has has a chance to read it?" Barr: "No" [leaves podium] :lol:

My other favorite: "You called this unprecedented, but {blah blah}" Barr: "Do you know of a precedent?" Reporter: "Well, no, but..." Barr: "Well then unprecedented is an accurate term" :lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
04-18-2019, 03:49 PM
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf?_ga=2.234694103.810791065.1555602534-210628236.1555602534


The (D) has ruined themselves IMO. Trump will absolutely win again.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-18-2019, 06:25 PM
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They just can't let it go :facepalm:

Teh One Who Knocks
04-18-2019, 06:27 PM
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Teh One Who Knocks
04-18-2019, 06:28 PM
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RBP
04-18-2019, 08:52 PM
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf?_ga=2.234694103.810791065.1555602534-210628236.1555602534


The (D) has ruined themselves IMO. Trump will absolutely win again.Jesus Christ, Porky. Don't post link to a 448 page PDF without saying what the link is. Your comment doesn't match the link. Now I have to review cell data usage.

Dick move! :lol:

DemonGeminiX
04-19-2019, 03:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGvi29_SCmY