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Teh One Who Knocks
06-13-2019, 11:29 AM
Jennings Brown - Gizmodo


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A 20-year-old college student used the Snapchat gender-swap filter to catfish a cop on Tinder, in a creative act of vigilante justice.

NBC Bay Area reported on Tuesday that the student told police that he set out to find potential pedophiles after his friend told him she was sexually assaulted during her childhood.

Ethan (last name withheld by NBC, out of concern for his safety) used the Snapchat gender-swap filter to make a photo of himself appearing as a girl. Then he used the photo in a fake Tinder profile for “Esther.” Esther’s listed age on the dating app was 19, according to the San Jose Police Department.

Then a man messaged Esther. Ethan told NBC he thinks the message was “Are you down to have some fun tonight?”

“I decided to take advantage of it,” Ethan told the news station.

They moved the conversation to Kik—where “Esther” told the person that she was actually 16-years-old—then moved the conversation to Snapchat, according to San Jose police. On Snapchat the two allegedly spoke about having sexual relations.
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According to NBC, that person messaging Esther was San Mateo police officer Robert Davies who is 40-years-old.

San Jose police, who later reviewed screenshots of the conversation, reportedly told NBC that Davies was not concerned that he was speaking explicitly to someone he believed to be 16.

San Jose detectives began investigating Davies last month, soon after Ethan tipped off Silicon Valley Crime Stoppers, according to San Jose police. Police arrest Davies on June 6. He faces charges of contacting a minor to commit a felony.

In a statement released last week the San Mateo Police Department said it put Davies on paid administrative leave as soon as it found out about the investigation. “This alleged conduct, if true, is in no way a reflection of all that we stand for as a Department, and is an affront to the tenets of our department and our profession as a whole,” San Mateo Police Chief Susan Manheimer said in the statement.

Gizmodo asked San Mateo Police for comment on the news that Davies’ was arrested after he interacted with a fake Tinder account and the department sent the same statement issued last week.

This is not the first report of someone using the Snapchat filter to catfish others, but it perhaps it will usher in a new trend of people using filters to catfish for good instead of evil.

PorkChopSandwiches
06-13-2019, 03:19 PM
;)

Hal-9000
06-13-2019, 04:13 PM
Some of those ladyboys in Thailand scare the shit out of me. They look good without the filter :oops:

RBP
06-13-2019, 05:09 PM
"Out of concern for his safety" with his picture right below it.

:uhhuh:

Ya'll know this ain't right, but have your fake vigilante party.

Muddy
06-13-2019, 05:29 PM
"Out of concern for his safety" with his picture right below it.

:uhhuh:

Ya'll know this ain't right, but have your fake vigilante party.

:roll:

RBP
06-14-2019, 10:38 AM
:roll:


He faces charges of contacting a minor to commit a felony.

What minor did he contact to commit a felony? Where's the victim? Not to mention that this wasn't even a police sting, just some dude.

Muddy
06-14-2019, 12:58 PM
What minor did he contact to commit a felony? Where's the victim? Not to mention that this wasn't even a police sting, just some dude.

:hand: intent was there.. You and I will have to agree to disagree.

Pony
06-14-2019, 01:25 PM
I have known all of you for a long while now, it's time I told you all a secret. I'm really only 12 years old and you all have been showing me explicit pictures. I'm sorry but I am gonna turn the evidence over to the police.

While I see the police doing stings as a necessary evil which is carefully structured to stay within the law, I do not agree with a social justice warrior doing this. This "kid" clearly lied,baited and manipulated the situation just so he could "bust" someone. How do we know he didn't edit the conversations before turning them over? Change the sequence of events? Not defending the cop here but I really think this could set a bad precedent going forward.

Kinda like going to a bar, meeting a girl who has ID that shows she's 22, taking her home and the next day she says she's underage and it was her sisters ID, she goes to the cops and claims she told you her real age BEFORE you took her home. Cops investigate and find out she is really 22 but since she "told" you she was 16, you go to jail.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-14-2019, 01:37 PM
Besides, anyone who's been around knows, there are no 14, 15, or 16 year old girls on the internet, only cops :hand:

RBP
06-15-2019, 05:46 AM
I have known all of you for a long while now, it's time I told you all a secret. I'm really only 12 years old and you all have been showing me explicit pictures. I'm sorry but I am gonna turn the evidence over to the police.

While I see the police doing stings as a necessary evil which is carefully structured to stay within the law, I do not agree with a social justice warrior doing this. This "kid" clearly lied,baited and manipulated the situation just so he could "bust" someone. How do we know he didn't edit the conversations before turning them over? Change the sequence of events? Not defending the cop here but I really think this could set a bad precedent going forward.

Kinda like going to a bar, meeting a girl who has ID that shows she's 22, taking her home and the next day she says she's underage and it was her sisters ID, she goes to the cops and claims she told you her real age BEFORE you took her home. Cops investigate and find out she is really 22 but since she "told" you she was 16, you go to jail.

The odd part about that scenario is is doesn't matter. If she's 16, you're guilty. So the law that includes "someone you believed to be" underaged as a basis for guilt, does not make the same distinction for "someone you believed to be" of age.

RBP
06-15-2019, 05:48 AM
:hand: intent was there.. You and I will have to agree to disagree.

So thought crimes perpetrated by vigilante imposters is okay with you. Yeah, we can definitely agree to disagree.

lost in melb.
06-15-2019, 12:51 PM
I think the department has the right to sack him for his conduct, but not issue criminal charges.

Hal-9000
06-15-2019, 05:39 PM
I have known all of you for a long while now, it's time I told you all a secret. I'm really only 12 years old and you all have been showing me explicit pictures. I'm sorry but I am gonna turn the evidence over to the police.

While I see the police doing stings as a necessary evil which is carefully structured to stay within the law, I do not agree with a social justice warrior doing this. This "kid" clearly lied,baited and manipulated the situation just so he could "bust" someone. How do we know he didn't edit the conversations before turning them over? Change the sequence of events? Not defending the cop here but I really think this could set a bad precedent going forward.

Kinda like going to a bar, meeting a girl who has ID that shows she's 22, taking her home and the next day she says she's underage and it was her sisters ID, she goes to the cops and claims she told you her real age BEFORE you took her home. Cops investigate and find out she is really 22 but since she "told" you she was 16, you go to jail.

I'm actually a 79 yr old woman :)

Thelma-9000

Hikari Kisugi
06-16-2019, 08:05 AM
What is the age of consent in your nation?

- edit
I say this as in the UK 16 is the age of consent.
There are variations however, if someone is younger than 18/19 and still under instruction, such as teachers etc.
One can shag a 16 year old, but it would be an offense to make a picture of one, or indeed view a picture of one.

It is a component of law I frankly thinks needs major clarification and change.

DemonGeminiX
06-16-2019, 11:42 AM
What is the age of consent in your nation?

- edit
I say this as in the UK 16 is the age of consent.
There are variations however, if someone is younger than 18/19 and still under instruction, such as teachers etc.
One can shag a 16 year old, but it would be an offense to make a picture of one, or indeed view a picture of one.

It is a component of law I frankly thinks needs major clarification and change.

The age of consent is set by the individual states and territories (i.e. Washington D.C.), with all being either 16, 17, or 18. Most states have a close-in-age gap exception and other conditional laws, although they're kind of complicated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States