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Teh One Who Knocks
06-20-2019, 11:21 AM
Celine Ryan, New Hampshire Senior Campus Correspondent - Campus Reform


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A year after students began a petition to remove the traditional California “mission bell” from campus, the University of California Santa Cruz has capitulated to demands, announcing Friday that the bell will be removed.

California mission bells mark the path of the historic El Camino Real, the 700-mile trail that connected the 21 California Spanish missions. The bells are a common way of recognizing state history and have marked the route of the El Camino Real since 1906. Hundreds of them line the trail to this day.

However, in UCSC's announcement of its decision, the university emphasized that the bells are “viewed by many populations as a symbol of racism and dehumanization of their ancestors.”

The university administration has communicated with Valentin Lopez, Amah Mutsun Tribal Band chairman, who called the bells “deeply painful symbols that celebrate the destruction, domination and erasure of our people.”

“They are constant reminders of the disrespect our tribe faces to this day,” he added.

UCSC Vice Chancellor for Business and Administrative Services Sarah Latham said that Lopez’s comments were “such a compelling statement of impact,” adding that she is “pleased” at the university’s ability to “work in partnership” with the band toward the removal of the bell.

“They’re wasting the UCSC student body’s and administration’s time over a non-issue that misrepresents an important part of California’s history for the sole purpose of feeling morally superior, 'cause who wants to be the person on the side of ‘genocide and slavery?’” College Republicans President Brandon Lang told Campus Reform when the petition to remove the bell first circulated. “The bells were intended to act as road markers for the historic El Camino Real, the fi[r]st road to span California, not as ‘symbols of genocide.’”

“The people who want this and others like them know they can’t get anything of substance done, so they focus on ‘symbolic’ things such as the removal of statues from the public space or changing of names, actions that are quick and easy but don’t cause any real positive change in society for the people they want to help,” the College Republicans president continued.

Campus Reform reached out to the university for comment but did not receive a response in time for publication.

Hal-9000
06-20-2019, 05:20 PM
IT'S PART OF YOUR HISTORY.


:facepalm:


Pretty soon this world is going to be ull of nothing but pictures and memes from 1998 onward. No statues, artwork, or physical historical items will be left.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-20-2019, 05:23 PM
IT'S PART OF YOUR HISTORY.


:facepalm:


Pretty soon this world is going to be ull of nothing but pictures and memes from 1998 onward. No statues, artwork, or physical historical items will be left.

But not Pepe the Frog, that's racist :hand:

Hal-9000
06-20-2019, 05:26 PM
What's next...they gonna knock down the pyramids because they were built by slaves?


Oh, maybe not. They weren't the right colored slaves to take offense over :rolleyes:

RBP
06-21-2019, 02:14 AM
What's next...they gonna knock down the pyramids because they were built by slaves?

Oh, maybe not. They weren't the right colored slaves to take offense over :rolleyes:

:-k

There is some historical debate whether the "pyramids built by slaves" narrative is true. But even if it is, they were pretty certainly not white.

There is an entire religious sect (largely promulgated in prisons) that believe the real source of the destruction of black culture and racism stemmed from the white man's destruction of Egyptian culture. I'll have to find the reference, it escapes me right now.

Hal-9000
06-21-2019, 03:10 PM
:-k

There is some historical debate whether the "pyramids built by slaves" narrative is true. But even if it is, they were pretty certainly not white.

There is an entire religious sect (largely promulgated in prisons) that believe the real source of the destruction of black culture and racism stemmed from the white man's destruction of Egyptian culture. I'll have to find the reference, it escapes me right now.

Yeah...I'm aware they weren't white :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
06-21-2019, 03:11 PM
The bells give me anxiety :|

Hal-9000
06-21-2019, 03:15 PM
Women with large blue veins on their titties give me anxiety.

RBP
06-21-2019, 03:26 PM
:-k

There is some historical debate whether the "pyramids built by slaves" narrative is true. But even if it is, they were pretty certainly not white.

There is an entire religious sect (largely promulgated in prisons) that believe the real source of the destruction of black culture and racism stemmed from the white man's destruction of Egyptian culture. I'll have to find the reference, it escapes me right now.

maat kemetic soulism is the religion I was trying to remember. Its followers are generally no fan of white westerners.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-21-2019, 03:29 PM
maat kemetic soulism is the religion I was trying to remember. Its followers are generally no fan of white westerners.

What about western whiteners? :-k

Hal-9000
06-21-2019, 03:30 PM
:-k

There is some historical debate whether the "pyramids built by slaves" narrative is true. But even if it is, they were pretty certainly not white.

There is an entire religious sect (largely promulgated in prisons) that believe the real source of the destruction of black culture and racism stemmed from the white man's destruction of Egyptian culture. I'll have to find the reference, it escapes me right now.

One of the theories I've read was that the pyramids didn't take generations to finish, because often they were dedicated as a resting place for one person. Person of honor didn't wait around 150 years to die. Also, building structures was considered a privilege and most construction instances created jobs for thousands. Jobs = status, food and places to live.

RBP
06-21-2019, 03:32 PM
What about western whiteners? :-k

:-k

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Teh One Who Knocks
06-21-2019, 03:35 PM
:-k

https://i.imgur.com/v5aNitn.jpg

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