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Teh One Who Knocks
06-27-2019, 12:05 PM
By Drew Harwell and Craig Timberg - The Washington Post


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The biggest forum for supporters of President Trump on Reddit has been “quarantined” following months of incitements to violence and other offensive behavior, the tech giant said Wednesday, in a move that could further inflame conservatives’ claims of social-media bias.

The forum, called “r/The_Donald,” has long served as a highly trafficked and controversial gathering place for supporters of Trump and Republicans on Reddit, the United States’ fifth-most popular website.

The move comes amid persistent allegations from Republicans that leading technology platforms, most of which are headquartered in the liberal bastion of northern California, are unfairly squelching conservative voices online. This partisan battle also is playing out amid a broader debate over whether private technology companies should be mediating free speech and whether widely accepted standards — such as prohibitions against incitements to violence — are being consistently and transparently applied.

Created in 2015, “The_Donald” counts roughly 750,000 followers and advertises itself as “a never-ending rally dedicated to the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.”

Reddit officials said on Wednesday that the “r/The_Donald” board had allowed or encouraged months of “rule-breaking behavior,” including the “encouragement of violence towards police officers and public officials in Oregon.”

“We are clear in our sitewide policies that posting content that encourages or threatens violence is not allowed,” Reddit spokeswoman Anna Soellner said in a statement to The Washington Post.

“We are sensitive to what could be considered political speech,” Soellner added, but “recent behaviors including threats against the police and public figures is content that is prohibited by our violence policy.”

The quarantine action will effectively demote the forum on Reddit, removing key features and restricting how its content is shared across the site, including blocking it from appearing in searches or recommendations. It is not an outright ban, but will conceal the forum behind a warning and require viewers to verify they are sure they want to view its contents.

“It’s a really positive step,” said Becca Lewis, a researcher at Stanford University and the think tank Data & Society. The forum “r/The_Donald,” which Lewis has studied extensively, “has been a bastion of hate speech and harassment for years.” She said there are numerous other forums on Reddit where conservatives can share their views and express support for Trump and other political figures.

The White House did not respond to requests for comment. But Tim Murtaugh, a spokesman for Trump’s 2020 re-election campaign, said in a statement that campaign officials are “monitoring what’s going on” following Reddit’s decision.

“We remain concerned about practices of various social media platforms and their efforts to silence conservative voices and supporters of President Trump,” he added, calling it “an ongoing problem of fairness and infringement of freedom of speech.”

Quarantines are rare punishments imposed on only the forums Reddit has deemed most offensive or upsetting. Past quarantines have been imposed on forums devoted to white supremacy, Sept. 11 conspiracy theories and videos of fatal violence.

Wednesday’s move by Reddit came after Republican state senators in Oregon fled the state to block a Democrat-supported climate bill, sparking a bizarre partisan stalemate. Following calls for the state police to go retrieve the lawmakers, local far-right militia groups said they would use violence to protect the senators.

Posters on “r/The_Donald” have echoed the militias in saying they would protect the lawmakers by any means. “Rifles are the only way we’re going to get any peace in our lives ever again,” one “r/The_Donald” poster wrote, according to a compilation published Monday by the liberal watchdog site Media Matters for America. Another said it was good to “threaten violence . . . because nothing else is working.”

The posters on “r/The_Donald” long have trafficked in edgy “trolling” and offensive behavior, promoting anti-Semitic memes and baseless conspiracy theories, including that victims of the Parkland school shooting were “crisis actors.”

Some of the top threads on “r/The_Donald” Wednesday criticized E. Jean Carroll, the author who recently accused Trump of sexual assault. Posters also called U.S. soccer star Megan Rapinoe a “human leech” after Trump criticized her for supposedly acting disrespectfully.

Reddit is a link-sharing and discussion site where readers can submit and vote on posts; the most “upvoted” posts are promoted more widely across the site. The site’s forums, known as “subreddits,” operate independently from the company and are overseen by volunteer moderators, who are expected to follow sitewide rules banning violent threats, harassment and other prohibited content.

Reddit is less known than more mainstream social-media sites, but it has long been regarded as a feeder source for many of the viral memes and inside jokes that take off across the Web.

“It’s a meeting place for both normal and crazy people,” said Joel Finkelstein, director of the Network Contagion Research Institute, which tracks how racism, anti-Semitism and other hateful ideas spread online. “It’s like a canal meeting the ocean.”

“r/The_Donald” was particularly influential among Trump’s base: Brad Parscale, Trump’s campaign manager for 2016 and 2020, tweeted in the months before Trump’s election that he was a daily visitor. Trump himself participated in an “Ask Me Anything” question-and-answer session on the forum during the 2016 campaign.

The forum’s moderators tweeted on Wednesday that the company had moved to “totally suppress” the forum “on the eve of the Democrat Debates.” In a post on the forum, the moderators said the company has “set up an impossible standard as a reason to kill us before the 2020 election.”

Forum moderators had in weeks past changed elements of the “subreddit,” removing the down-vote button and changing the “Report” button, which allows people to flag potential rule-breaking content, to say “Deport.”

The “quarantine” move comes on the same day President Trump launched his latest attack against Silicon Valley. He threatened a potential lawsuit against Facebook and Google, without providing much detail, and accused Google of trying to rig the election. The company has repeatedly denied that claim.

Trump also accused Twitter of limiting the reach of his tweets and censoring other conservative users, a charge the tech giant has long denied. The White House on Wednesday also announced it would gather “digital leaders” next month to talk about social media but did not elaborate on who would be in attendance.

Rep. Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.), chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security, said in a statement Wednesday that Reddit’s response to violent threats was a “good first step.” “It’s clear that all social media companies are still not doing enough to counter extremism, misinformation, and calls for violence,” he said. “Perhaps it’s time Reddit faced some scrutiny as well.”

Muddy
06-27-2019, 01:33 PM
Thanks for the free publicity..

Muddy
06-27-2019, 01:34 PM
Wow.. doesnt show up in a search on there..

Teh One Who Knocks
06-27-2019, 01:35 PM
Wow.. doesnt show up in a search on there..

That's what the story said :slap:

Muddy
06-27-2019, 01:41 PM
That's what the story said :slap:

I cant read..!!! :x

DemonGeminiX
06-27-2019, 02:33 PM
I cant read..!!! :x

:-s

Then how do you know how to respond to what we post?

Muddy
06-27-2019, 02:37 PM
What are these symbols on my screen???


I just joined the_donald, but only out of protest.. I cant stand those fuckin' kids in there.. :lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
06-27-2019, 03:43 PM
The need to ban r/Politics then too

lost in melb.
06-27-2019, 03:54 PM
“recent behaviors including threats against the police and public figures is content that is prohibited by our violence policy.”

Teh One Who Knocks
06-27-2019, 03:58 PM
“recent behaviors including threats against the police and public figures is content that is prohibited by our violence policy.”

And what do you think they are saying on any subreddit that has ties to BLM (Black Lives Matter) and/or Antifa? ;)

Teh One Who Knocks
06-27-2019, 03:59 PM
Also:


This partisan battle also is playing out amid a broader debate over whether private technology companies should be mediating free speech and whether widely accepted standards — such as prohibitions against incitements to violence — are being consistently and transparently applied.

lost in melb.
06-27-2019, 04:01 PM
And what do you think they are saying on any subreddit that has ties to BLM (Black Lives Matter) and/or Antifa? ;)

But you don't wanna piss off these groups :hand:

lost in melb.
06-27-2019, 04:36 PM
Also:

I had a dig. At least as much as I have time for... They seem to ban most groups with controversial content ( eventually), regardless of poultice leaning.

Perhaps consider that Trump's twitter account still being active as evidence that free speech is tolerated from all angles?

PorkChopSandwiches
06-27-2019, 04:54 PM
But you don't wanna piss off these groups :hand:

:rofl:

DemonGeminiX
06-27-2019, 06:43 PM
But you don't wanna piss off these groups :hand:

I do. I have an AR-15. It'll be fun watching them piss themselves.

lost in melb.
06-27-2019, 07:29 PM
I do. I have an AR-15. It'll be fun watching them piss themselves.

I take it back. No weaponized wheel chair upgrade for you :nono:

Griffin
06-27-2019, 07:52 PM
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Godfather
06-28-2019, 03:32 AM
As a frequent reddit user, I watched the rise and fall of the_donald fairly closely. Before the election I was impressed by that community. They were all bought in, they were loud, vocal and convincing.

But there were some really rotten apples/trolls who seemed to get worse over the past year or two. That in and of itself is normal for any political subreddit, but the moderator team at T_D were assholes who laughed as they banned anyone who came for a debate, didn't enforce reddit's TOS even in the face of public warnings, and left up some pretty vile posts - hence the quarantine (not a full ban).

I wouldn't take it as a slight on the President or Trump supporters. There are huge assholes in every online community, but T_D was managed poorly by their mod team (and in their defense, it was a massive political subbredit for any team of unpaid volunteer mods to handle). They are not the first (left and right leaning) and won't be the last. There are plenty of other subs I could see getting axed soon too once the press gets a hold of them. I saw a post today on 'meta_canada' talking about "the browns" and how they're all rapists and murderers who need to be deported, which had been left up for hours and had plenty of upvotes.

Reddit has no spine for controversy anymore - They're a private, for-profit website who sell ads and sponsored posts for a living. They recently took down a bunch of other subs from ones that ripped on fat people, to ones that collected the Liveleaks death videos. It's clearly becoming a much more ad-friendly, monetized space... like everything on the internet that used to be good (*cough* Youtube) :lol: If subs don't fall in line, they're done. People should consider leaving reddit if they want true free online speech.



And what do you think they are saying on any subreddit that has ties to BLM (Black Lives Matter) and/or Antifa? ;)

If it makes you feel better, Antifa was outright banned, and BLM has no active users (I checked tonight and they had 2 online :lol: )

RBP
06-28-2019, 04:10 AM
The need to ban r/Politics then too

That's a complete cesspool.

Godfather
06-28-2019, 04:17 AM
/r/politics sucks. So do most of the news subs.

I use a firefox extension called Reddit Enhancement Suite. It allows you to block any subs you don't like from /r/all . My list is extensive, basically anything political or news related... as well as all these soccer subs that otherwise dominate the front page :lol: I still like reddit for stupid memes, cute doggos, food and sports subs, some subs with ridiculous stories like 'today I fucked up', and the /r/videos sub (probably my favorite because Youtube is so trash at showing you actual good videos these days)