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Teh One Who Knocks
08-19-2019, 11:05 AM
Sergei Kelley, Campus Correspondent - Campus Reform


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Michigan State University informed student employees to refrain from using terms like "I apologize" and "no problem" and addressing customers with gender-specific “sir or ma’am,” in a mandatory August training.

MSU Service Center employees witnessed an hour-long “Inclusive & Culturally Sensitive Service to Residents & Guests” presentation during their mandatory fall training, covering everything from identity wheels and utilizing pronouns to misgendering.

MSU Facilities Manager Sheena Ballbach claimed during her presentation that saying “no problem” could be a trigger.

“Raise your hand if you’ve ever said ‘no problem,’” Ballbach told the employees. “Did you ever think that was a trigger? I say this all the time and never thought that this could be a trigger word. But if I’m saying ‘no problem,’ that’s leading a customer to believe that they could be a problem or they could be an inconvenience to you and we’re just assuring them that they’re not.”

“I don’t know” and “you should have done this” were also examples of triggers. Ballbach displayed a list of triggers, paired with “calmers,” or statements MSU employees should say instead.

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Another trigger in the workplace is misgendering customers, according to Ballbach. She then asked students, “‘how many of you were ever raised to say ‘yes sir’ or ‘yes ma’am?’” A fair number of hands went up and she admitted she was also raised that way.

“Not everybody identifies like ‘sir’ or ‘ma’am,’” the facilities manager informed employees.

“I would like to start seeing a culture around MSU where we say… “they”, not “his” or “hers.”’ In addition, asking for a customer’s name is appropriate according to a presentation slide.

Eduardo Olivo, assistant director of diversity, equity, and inclusion at MSU, also stressed not misgendering people.

“We live in a [sex and gender] binary world...we all know that’s just a social construction,” he stated. Olivo had begun the diversity discussion with an identity wheel. The circle diagram is divided into parts of one’s identity such as “age," "first language," and "sexual orientation.”

This wheel signifies how people identify and their memberships to social groups.

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According to Olivo, bias incidents have spiked in the past two years based on data from the MSU Residence Housing Association (RHA).

RHA is the student government of students who are housed within campus dormitories. Its microaggression campaign states “college campuses serve many purposes, including the creation and maintenance of multicultural and brave spaces for action and dialogue around social justice.” In addition, RHA spent $6,000 on a “Love and Unity Banquet” months ago.

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Olivo tied this data to the notion that “students on our campus from minoritized communities are feeling...powerless, not heard, not included, and victims of oppression systems.”

The MSU presentation also included slides depicting a black student holding a sign reading “why is my skin color considered a threat?” a Muslim student grasping a sign claiming “I can cover my body & still be a feminist,” and a female student bearing a sign saying “select your gender,” followed by “male” and “female” options and, further down, “why is my gender not an option?”

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MSU political science senior James Stosio, who has previously attended the diversity segment, told Campus Reform that he “usually feel[s] a little uncomfortable with all of it honestly, but… I do think it is valuable.”

Campus Reform reached out to both administrators and other students but did not receive any more comments in time for publication.

fricnjay
08-19-2019, 02:26 PM
:facepalm:

DemonGeminiX
08-19-2019, 03:18 PM
The upside is we can still tell people to go fuck themselves. :yup:

Teh One Who Knocks
08-19-2019, 03:21 PM
The upside is we can still tell people to go fuck themselves. :yup:

Did you just assume that the preferred pronouns were they/them? :-s

DemonGeminiX
08-19-2019, 03:24 PM
Did you just assume that the preferred pronouns were they/them? :-s

They/them is genderless. Gender is implied by the group that the words refer to.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-19-2019, 03:26 PM
They/them is genderless. Gender is implied by the group that the words refer to.

:wrong:

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Everything has gender you cishet scum! :x

DemonGeminiX
08-19-2019, 03:29 PM
:wrong:

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Everything has gender you cishet scum! :x

Yeah, I don't care. :lol:

Hal-9000
08-19-2019, 04:03 PM
“I would like to start seeing a culture around MSU where we say… “they”, not “his” or “hers.”’ In addition, asking for a customer’s name is appropriate according to a presentation slide.


What is they's order please?

What is they's preferred pronouns?

What is they's name??


Sorry, that's more backwards than Ebonics.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-19-2019, 04:05 PM
“I would like to start seeing a culture around MSU where we say… “they”, not “his” or “hers.”’ In addition, asking for a customer’s name is appropriate according to a presentation slide.


What is they's order please?

What is they's preferred pronouns?

What is they's name??


Sorry, that's more backwards than Ebonics.

:racist:

:triggered:

Hal-9000
08-19-2019, 04:05 PM
I predicted the racist gif would follow, but not the triggered hippo.

Must be slipping :-k

Teh One Who Knocks
08-19-2019, 04:09 PM
Point of personal privilege, Lance from Denver, he/him....check your privilege cishet scum! :x

Hal-9000
08-19-2019, 04:13 PM
Aren't cishets little eyeholes when you're sewing a garment to fasten fancy button-like things to?

Hal-9000
08-19-2019, 04:14 PM
oh and your pronoun is definitely eat me mofo :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
08-19-2019, 04:21 PM
:triggered:

Hal-9000
08-19-2019, 04:37 PM
I associate that cartoon meme with you more than your actual picture :rofl:

DemonGeminiX
08-19-2019, 05:35 PM
That cartoon was an actual woman mouthing off at some kind of conservative talk at a university.

DemonGeminiX
08-19-2019, 05:39 PM
Trigglypuff


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY1H1rZL53I