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Teh One Who Knocks
10-30-2019, 11:40 AM
By Paul Bois - The Daily Wire


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Well, the much-hated “War on Christmas” arrived early this year with music icons John Legend and Kelly Clarkson changing the lyrics to the classic song “Baby It’s Cold Outside” to be a bit more #MeToo friendly.

Speaking with Vanity Fair, Legend revealed that he and songwriter Natasha Rothwell rewrote the song to reflect a more woke mindset, which will include such feminist lyrics like “it’s your body, and your choice.” He will be performing it with Kelly Clarkson.

“The new lyrics hear Clarkson sing ‘What will my friends think?’, with Legend replying: ‘I think they should rejoice.’ Kelly, 37, then sings: ‘… if I have one more drink?’, with John singing: ‘It’s your body, and your choice,” Metro reported of the song changes.

Vanity Fair added that the song will be “every bit as fun and swinging as the original, and its newfound sensitivity feels genuine, not performative.”

Though Legend and Clarkson are certainly the first two mainstream artists to make such a drastic change to the song, they are not the first; Idina Menzel and Michael Buble’s version made slight alterations to the lyrics so as to make them a bit more kid-friendly, with “what’s in this drink?” being replaced by “was that a wink?” and “maybe just a half a drink more” being replaced by “maybe just a soda pop more.”

During Christmas last year, “Baby It’s Cold Outside” became the center of national controversy when feminists, unable to see the nuance in the song’s flirtatious nature, deemed it a date rape anthem, which prompted a Cleveland radio station to ban the song entirely after some listeners complained it sent the wrong message in the #MeToo era. However, the song’s creator, Frank Loesser, intended it as a flirtatious song between a man and a woman on a cold winter’s night, with critics typically overlooking the part where the woman sings, “Baby it’s cold outside” in unison with her male partner, signifying that the two were always in sync. Frank Loesser’s daughter also asserted that was the case.

Surprisingly, the song has its share of defenders in feminist circles who say the song explores the conflicts sexually-free women faced in an era that frowned upon them. Persephone Magazine made this argument:


The structure of “Baby” is a back and forth conversation between the male and female singers. Every line the woman utters is answered by him, until they come together at the end of the song. When we just look at “Say, what’s in this drink,” we ignore the lines that proceed and follow this, which are what indicates to the listener how we’re supposed to read the context.

The song sets up a story where the woman has dropped by her beau’s house on a cold winter night. They talk in the first verse about how long she’s going to stay. She has “another drink” and stays longer, and then later in the evening it’s implied that she’s going to sleep over.

If we look at the text of the song, the woman gives plenty of indication that she wants to stay the night. At the time period the song was written (1936), “good girls,” especially young, unmarried girls, did not spend the night at a man’s house unsupervised. The tension in the song comes from her own desire to stay and society’s expectations that she’ll go. We see this in the organization of the song — from stopping by for a visit, to deciding to push the line by staying longer, to wanting to spend the entire night, which is really pushing the bounds of acceptability. Her beau in his repeated refrain “Baby, it’s cold outside” is offering her the excuses she needs to stay without guilt.

Muddy
10-30-2019, 01:43 PM
Well in the original song he really is trying hard to get her drunk and fuck her...

RBP
11-01-2019, 12:52 PM
Well in the original song he really is trying hard to get her drunk and fuck her...

Read the end of the article. Besides, how did we get to the point that all historic seduction rituals should be relabeled as predatory? It's complete hogwash.

PorkChopSandwiches
11-04-2019, 04:53 PM
Well in the original song he really is trying hard to get her drunk and fuck her...

Dont we all

Muddy
11-04-2019, 05:52 PM
Read the end of the article.

No way.



how did we get to the point that all historic seduction rituals should be relabeled as predatory? It's complete hogwash.

I'll disagree with that. Women have been second class citizens for a long ass time... Just like the black Tuskegee air men do you think they enjoyed their place in society?

RBP
11-08-2019, 10:47 AM
I'll disagree with that. Women have been second class citizens for a long ass time... Just like the black Tuskegee air men do you think they enjoyed their place in society?

WERE second class citizens a LONG TIME AGO.

There is no point in trying to rewrite history using a "current view" brush. There have been social hierarchies and mating rituals longer than there have been humans. Viewing all prior human or other evolutionary events in the context of 2020 "progressive" norms is mental masturbation to justify a political view. Whether you agree or disagree that males have been historically the sexual aggressor and females the sexual arbiter or not is really not important. Still works that way in most animal kingdoms and has for 100's of millions of years. So taking a well liked and innocent Christmas song from 1944 and turning it into a battle cry is laughable. I am sure the woke crew turns off that horribly offensive white male patriarchal misogynist crap from 1944 to listen to actual misogyny in popular rap.

"Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks / Lick on these nuts and suck this dick." - Snoop Dogg

Ahhhhh... that's better. *hits vape*

Teh One Who Knocks
11-08-2019, 11:39 AM
By Natalie O'Neill - Page Six


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Baby it’s woke outside.

Singers John Legend and Kelly Clarkson will release a remake of the classic Christmas tune “Baby, It’s Cold Outside” with new “consent-friendly” lyrics Friday — and the remake is already receiving a chilly reception.

The new #MeToo-fueled version of the holiday ditty scrubs the song of lines in which a male suitor insists that a woman stay because the weather is bad, for ones where he calls her a cab and asks her to text him when she gets home.

In another eye-rolling instance, Clarkson’s character asks, “What will my friends think? If I have one more drink?” to which the Legend ‘s suitor replies: “It’s your body and your choice.”

In a lighter moment, Clarkson offers up the excuse, “My father will be pacing the floor,” to which Legend replies, “Wait, what do you still live at home for?”

The song will be released on a deluxe edition of Legend’s Christmas album, “A Legendary Christmas,” also out Friday.

But news of the duet — released in 1949, and famously crooned by the likes of Bing Crosby and Doris Day — has already been met with a flurry of criticism.

Nay-sayers include Deana Martin, the daughter of Dean Martin, who sang one of the most popular version of the hit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmG-Oyi7WRg

“You do not change the lyrics to the song,” she fumed on “Good Morning Britain” earlier this week, adding that the new song is oddly more sex-focused.

“He made it more sexual with those words … and I think what he’s done is, he’s stealing the thunder from [composer] Frank Loesser’s song and from my dad,” she said.

She called the tune’s new iteration, which was penned by Legend, “absolutely absurd.”

“He should write his own song if he doesn’t like this one, but don’t change the lyrics. It’s a classic, perfect song.”

In recent years, critics have called the original song a “date-rape anthem,” and demanded it be yanked from the radio because it features a male suitor insisting that a woman stay with him, and have a drink, even as she repeatedly says no.

“It really pushed the line of consent,” Cleveland Rape Crisis Center president and CEO Sondra Miller told a local Fox affiliate last Christmas during the now-annual hand-wringing over the ditty.

“The character in the song is saying ‘no,’ and they’re saying well, ‘Does no really mean yes?’ And I think in 2018 what we know is consent is ‘yes’ and if you get a ‘no’, it means ‘no’ and you should stop right there.”
But defenders say Legend’s P.C. reboot is absurd.

“What would John Legend do, if in 40 years, if somebody wanted to … re-record one of his songs, and there was some group that found it offensive, and somebody just went, ‘Oh, I can change the lyrics on that,’ “The Talk” co-host Sharon Osbourne said on a recent show.

“It’s, to me, like a master painting,” Osbourne argued. “It’s a piece of art.”

She pointed specifically to the new “It’s your body, and your choice” lyric.

“What the hell are you on? That’s ridiculous,” Osbourne said.

Muddy
11-08-2019, 02:04 PM
WERE second class citizens a LONG TIME AGO.

There is no point in trying to rewrite history using a "current view" brush. There have been social hierarchies and mating rituals longer than there have been humans. Viewing all prior human or other evolutionary events in the context of 2020 "progressive" norms is mental masturbation to justify a political view. Whether you agree or disagree that males have been historically the sexual aggressor and females the sexual arbiter or not is really not important. Still works that way in most animal kingdoms and has for 100's of millions of years. So taking a well liked and innocent Christmas song from 1944 and turning it into a battle cry is laughable. I am sure the woke crew turns off that horribly offensive white male patriarchal misogynist crap from 1944 to listen to actual misogyny in popular rap.

"Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks / Lick on these nuts and suck this dick." - Snoop Dogg

Ahhhhh... that's better. *hits vape*

I get it.. The new song is stupid too.. This is just a product of the times..

RBP
11-08-2019, 04:33 PM
I get it.. The new song is stupid too.. This is just a product of the times..

You've been giving some of this SJW bullshit some support of late. Which is fine if you buy it, but I am curious... has someone got your ear or did you suffer a TBI? :lol:

Muddy
11-08-2019, 07:18 PM
You've been giving some of this SJW bullshit some support of late. Which is fine if you buy it, but I am curious... has someone got your ear or did you suffer a TBI? :lol:

Not necessarily support. I just look at things more open minded as of late, IMO. We all have a boogeyman.

RBP
11-08-2019, 07:34 PM
Not necessarily support. I just look at things more open minded as of late, IMO. We all have a boogeyman.

Fair enough. Watch the Blair video I just posted in the :rbp: thread. :lol: