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Teh One Who Knocks
12-23-2019, 10:36 AM
By Bryan Llenas | Fox News


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The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) announced Friday that further laboratory tests confirm that THC-containing e-cigarette or vaping products are in fact “linked to most of the cases and play a major role in the outbreak” of recent vaping lung injuries and deaths.

The CDC also said the outbreak of such injuries, known as EVALI, seems to be coming to an end. Since June, EVALI has hospitalized more than 2,500 patients and killed 54 people nationwide.

Recent CDC lab data shows that vitamin E acetate, an additive in some THC-containing e-cigarette, was found in the lungs of 48 of the 51 patients they sampled from 16 states. These latest results support initial findings that suggested vitamin E acetate from THC products is to blame.

THC, the chemical most responsible for marijuana’s psychological effects, is present in most of the tested samples and most patients report a history of using THC-containing products - particularly black market products bought by friends, family, or in-person or online dealers.

The EVALI outbreak coincides with a fast-growing THC-vaping black market supplied by domestic and international criminal organizations.

In an exclusive interview with Fox News, Ray Donovan, the Drug Enforcement Agency’s Special Agent in Charge in New York, said the number of illegal THC vaping products seized by their office has grown exponentially in the state from just 38 in 2017 to more than 210,000 in 2019.

“They’re being manufactured on the West Coast, Asia or in Mexico and smuggled by international organizations into the United States,” Donovan said. “It’s very easy. You can go online and get this product. You can have it delivered to your doorstep.”

Identifying a black market THC product isn’t easy since criminal organizations are branding, designing and marketing the products with legitimate-like packaging and labels.

“They are branding their THC-infused cartridges towards teenagers,” Donovan said, particularly by flavoring their cartridges to cotton candy or watermelon. Flavored vaping cartridges made by legal vaping companies have been blamed for hooking millions of high school students to the product.

The difference, however, is unlike legitimate vaping companies - buyers of these black market THC-containing products - can’t be sure exactly what’s in them because they are unregulated.

“There’s no quality control here. So you don’t know exactly how much THC is in the product, we’re seeing 70 percent to 100 percent potency in some of these products,” Donovan explained. “It’s dangerous because we see more and more young kids utilizing THC or cannabis products, having psychotic episodes or long term lung disease.”

Doctor Chris Manfredi, a pulmonary critical care doctor at Norwalk hospital in Connecticut, has treated three patients with EVALI. Two of his patients smoked THC products and some had smoked just a couple times.

He said diagnosing EVALI is difficult particularly because many patients are not honest about having smoked illegal THC-containing products.

“No one wants to admit it,” Dr. Manfredi said. “The majority of the patients are young people under age 35.”

Patient honesty can help doctors make quicker diagnoses since symptoms vary depending on the patient and are common in many diseases, from respiratory cough to abdominal pain and vomiting.

“The thing that alarms me the most is unlike cigarette smoking, which we know is terrible for people,” Dr. Manfredi said. “This seems to be a one-off, your first time could be the time you get sick.”

Godfather
12-24-2019, 01:47 AM
Shocker... I'm still convinced big tobacco money fueled the panic. I saw people who said they worked in the industry online from day one saying it has to be vitamin e acetate in black market THC because they knew it was tempting to use in THC pods due to being cheap and the same viscosity, but the news stirred a TON of fear that it was nicotine e-cigarettes/juuls.

Not saying Juul and e-cigs are safe or that there isn't an issue with youth getting hooked on them who wouldn't be smokers... but bullshit news driving people using them to quit smoking back to cigs isn't great either.

RBP
12-24-2019, 04:39 AM
Shocker... I'm still convinced big tobacco money fueled the panic. I saw people who said they worked in the industry online from day one saying it has to be vitamin e acetate in black market THC because they knew it was tempting to use in THC pods due to being cheap and the same viscosity, but the news stirred a TON of fear that it was nicotine e-cigarettes/juuls.

Not saying Juul and e-cigs are safe or that there isn't an issue with youth getting hooked on them who wouldn't be smokers... but bullshit news driving people using them to quit smoking back to cigs isn't great either.

Maybe... the stories have been obviously fake from the start. But big tobacco also paid a price by it creating the environment to raise the smoking age to 21 nationally. The anti-smoking zealots are also very well funded through government lawsuits.

Godfather
12-24-2019, 05:23 AM
Maybe... the stories have been obviously fake from the start. But big tobacco also paid a price by it creating the environment to raise the smoking age to 21 nationally. The anti-smoking zealots are also very well funded through government lawsuits.

You're right, I shouldn't say convinced, it's just a conspiracy theory. I guess the counter-argument is that big tobacco has a fuck-load of marketing money they can't spend so overtly anymore, and money from the third-world that's taking up smoking... and I think it would be zero surprise if they played games of subterfuge. Anti-smoking could equally be playing a part ironically eh :lol:

RBP
12-24-2019, 05:39 AM
You're right, I shouldn't say convinced, it's just a conspiracy theory. I guess the counter-argument is that big tobacco has a fuck-load of marketing money they can't spend so overtly anymore, and money from the third-world that's taking up smoking... and I think it would be zero surprise if they played games of subterfuge. Anti-smoking could equally be playing a part ironically eh :lol:

Most social causes are born of urban legends. This is no different.

fricnjay
01-02-2020, 05:05 PM
My best friends brother in law was doing this to calm his anxiety. He had been doing it few months and collapsed. They rush him to the hospital to find out he was in a coma and had collapsed lungs. They diagnosed him with "popcorn lung" and directly attributed it to the synthetic vitamin E in his THC vape. He now holds the record for being on a ventilator the longest and surviving, 15 days. He just got out of the hospital last week and is having to relearn a lot. He is talking now and can walk with assistance but spends a lot of time in a wheelchair. Bad news its not legal here so he has no case to sue, good news they expect him to make a complete recovery.

RBP
01-03-2020, 05:15 AM
My best friends brother in law was doing this to calm his anxiety. He had been doing it few months and collapsed. They rush him to the hospital to find out he was in a coma and had collapsed lungs. They diagnosed him with "popcorn lung" and directly attributed it to the synthetic vitamin E in his THC vape. He now holds the record for being on a ventilator the longest and surviving, 15 days. He just got out of the hospital last week and is having to relearn a lot. He is talking now and can walk with assistance but spends a lot of time in a wheelchair. Bad news its not legal here so he has no case to sue, good news they expect him to make a complete recovery.

What, what? Jesus...

Godfather
01-03-2020, 06:26 AM
My best friends brother in law was doing this to calm his anxiety. He had been doing it few months and collapsed. They rush him to the hospital to find out he was in a coma and had collapsed lungs. They diagnosed him with "popcorn lung" and directly attributed it to the synthetic vitamin E in his THC vape. He now holds the record for being on a ventilator the longest and surviving, 15 days. He just got out of the hospital last week and is having to relearn a lot. He is talking now and can walk with assistance but spends a lot of time in a wheelchair. Bad news its not legal here so he has no case to sue, good news they expect him to make a complete recovery.

Holy shit...