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Teh One Who Knocks
01-24-2020, 12:24 PM
By Julia Alexander - The Verge


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NBCUniversal’s streaming service, Peacock, will cost subscribers anywhere from absolutely nothing to $10 a month, but Comcast is hoping a mix of exclusives and bonus content will convince people to pay.

Comcast and NBCUniversal announced today that Peacock will be available in three tiers: a free option (Peacock Free) that comes with limited programming; an ad-supported complete version that is free to existing Comcast customers and $5-a-month for everyone else; and a $10-a-month ad-free subscription option that is open to anyone. That one is known as Peacock Premium.

Peacock Free consists of 7,500 hours of programming, including next-day access to current seasons of first-year NBC shows, Universal movies, and curated content such as SNL, Vault, and Family Movie Night. The two premium tiers come in at $4.99 per month with ads and $9.99 per month with no ads. Both of these tiers will include live sports and early access to late-night shows. Peacock Premium will include non-televised Premier League soccer games beginning in August.

Comcast and Cox cable subscribers will get free access to Peacock Premium with ads, or they can pay just $5 per month for an ad-free version. Comcast’s Xfinity X1 and Flex customers will get access to Peacock Premium on April 15th. The streaming service will launch nationally on July 15th. This means that for some 20 million households that use Comcast’s paid TV services, Peacock will be a free service designed to give them a streaming option for some of NBCUniversal’s most iconic shows.

“This is a very exciting time for our company, as we chart the future of entertainment,” said Steve Burke, chairman of NBCUniversal. “We have one of the most enviable collections of media brands and the strongest ad sales track record in the business. Capitalizing on these key strengths, we are taking a unique approach to streaming that brings value to customers, advertisers and shareholders.”

Just because Comcast is getting into the streaming game doesn’t mean the company is pivoting away from cable, though. Comcast is still a cable provider that profits from people signing up for cable. Offering a streaming service is key to remaining relevant, but the company doesn’t have the same goal as WarnerMedia or Disney, which see direct-to-consumer, subscription streaming video-on-demand offerings as the future of their companies. It’s a key component, but it’s not the entire picture. Research firm LightShed Management estimates that 80 million households still subscribe to some form of cable or satellite offering. While that’s down from approximately 100 million houses close to a decade ago, it’s still a sizable amount of people. Comcast would like it if the cord-cutting phenomenon rolled out slowly, in order for the company to keep some of those 80 million customers — even if AT&T and WarnerMedia are banking on the opposite.

Peacock is a place for Comcast to remind customers how great NBC is as a network and drive interest back to linear TV. NBC’s linear lineup is reliant on event-type TV (The Masked Singer, The Last Voice, America’s Got Talent) that draws in sizable crowds and where it’s easy to sell ads. Netflix content chief Ted Sarandos once commented that because of NBC’s event lineup that’s available through linear TV, the network should lean into that as its strength instead of investing in streaming and OTT like competitors were starting to do in an effort to compete with Netflix. Nice try, Ted.

None of this matters for average consumers who are trying to figure out what to subscribe to and what to cancel. NBCUniversal has three key strengths up its sleeve that it hopes will bring people in: sports options that could end up on Peacock (beginning with the 2020 Summer Olympics, where features and documentaries related to the Olympics will stream), one of the biggest catalogs of TV shows and movies from any network or studio, and licensing deals that keep it interesting in the face of competition.

Ask anyone with a dedicated sports network who is trying to figure out streaming: it’s complicated. Regional sports network rights make streaming every game nearly impossible (Yankees fans know), and the leagues still cling to broadcast network television. That’s why cable-cutters cram themselves into bars every Saturday and Sunday during NFL playoff season in order to catch the games.

NBCUniversal looks like it might play around with the idea of bringing some sports to Peacock. This is different from telecom services that allow fans to watch games online by signing in with their cable subscriptions. Think of it like what Disney is trying to accomplish with ESPN+: it’s not a full sports network, but it’s getting closer to what dedicated over-the-top sports streaming services like John Skipper’s DAZN are trying to do.

On the entertainment front, NBCUniversal is hoping that it can replicate part of Netflix’s early success by relying on a plethora of old shows and movies. There’s The Office (but that won’t appear on Peacock until 2021 when it leaves Netflix), Battlestar Galactica, Saved by the Bell, Parks and Recreation, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Monk, and many more. Both The Office and Parks and Recreation will be Peacock exclusives, with many of the other series still available on streaming services like Hulu.

This is where “I don’t know how to watch TV anymore” comes in. Comcast and NBCUniversal used to be a part of Hulu, but Disney took over full control in 2019. As part of the deal, some NBCUniversal titles will remain on Hulu but slowly start to leave over the next few years. This includes day-after options, meaning that a new episode of a show is available to stream on Hulu after it airs on traditional cable or broadcast television.

People who use Hulu to watch Saturday Night Live on Sunday mornings may not be able to do so in three years when NBCUniversal’s deal with Hulu expires. For now, Saturday Night Live will stream on both Hulu and Peacock, with older seasons of the show only available on one. NBCUniversal chief Steve Burke told investors during today’s event that NBC will get part of its Hulu content back in a non-exclusive deal immediately (like Keeping Up with the Kardashians), and in approximately two years, the company can take all of its content off Hulu.

Streaming! It’s become increasingly difficult to find everything in one place (remember the good old days of Netflix?), and Comcast understands the frustration. The “free” price tag and keeping the paid version as low as possible ($10 a month is still less than Netflix’s most popular $12.99 plan) are key to keeping subscribers happy. People will likely pay $5 or $10 a month for NBC’s back catalog as long as there are new shows, too.

Both the network and film divisions are working on exclusive titles for Peacock, including reboots of popular shows like Battlestar Galactica (from Mr. Robot creator Sam Esmail), Saved by the Bell, and Punky Brewster. There may even be exclusives tied into current popular shows, like late-night episodes of The Tonight Show that move some of NBC’s digital content away from YouTube and over to Peacock where the company can control and profit even more from advertisements.

This brings us to Comcast and NBCUniversal’s final ace in the hole: licensing. NBCUniversal and Comcast own some of the most important licenses in Hollywood. The entire Harry Potter collection, for example, belongs to NBCUniversal right now. WarnerMedia licensed the rights to the franchise a while back, and it will have to wait until those expire (or a new deal is struck) before the movies can migrate over to HBO Max. Since NBCUniversal owns a few important licenses and can license its own series to other streaming services like Netflix and Hulu, which rely on third-party content, Peacock becomes less of a risky bet on streaming. There’s always something for the customer, with NBCUniversal being able to rotate new and older series in and out on a constant basis.

Comcast knows that Peacock isn’t going to replace Netflix for subscribers. But Comcast can use Peacock to offer something that services like Disney+ and Netflix can’t. The company is going to rely on live programming and advertisements to remind subscribers why linear television is still a good option. If all goes according to plan, Comcast will be able to boast a decently sized streaming platform and hopefully drive more interest and growth in cable TV.

And truly, nothing would be more impressive in 2020 than a streaming service that can keep cord cutters happy and maybe even convince people to head back to cable.

DemonGeminiX
01-24-2020, 12:25 PM
This is getting ridiculous.

Teh One Who Knocks
01-24-2020, 12:33 PM
They're all going where the money is, which now is streaming. But the HUGE problem now is that if you want to have access to everything you like to watch, and you "cut the cord" from cable/satellite, it will now end up costing you MORE than it did when you subscribed to cable/satellite because there's going to end up being approximately 438723967820394587620935476 streaming services that will all cost money.

Pony
01-24-2020, 02:39 PM
Yep, they are all locking down their content to force us to pay for more and more streaming services.

Muddy
01-24-2020, 02:52 PM
Or.. Just don't get any of the stuff, watch normal TV and cherry pick and pay for a few things that you really want to see.. Fuck these guys and their $150 a month stipend to watch a stupid box in your living room all day. Beleive me, you will adjust and you will live.. All this shit you guys watch.. I have missed nothing that has changed my life in any way.

Pony
01-24-2020, 04:49 PM
Or.. Just don't get any of the stuff, watch normal TV and cherry pick and pay for a few things that you really want to see.. Fuck these guys and their $150 a month stipend to watch a stupid box in your living room all day. Beleive me, you will adjust and you will live.. All this shit you guys watch.. I have missed nothing that has changed my life in any way.

I cut cable a couple years ago. Just dropped ATT TVNow a couple months ago because of price increases. Currently have Amazon, Disney+ and Slingtv that I pay for and have the account info on my families Netflix & Hulu.

So far the trend is no contracts so soon I'm gonna drop Slingtv for awhile and use that money toward HBO for a month or two. So basically instead of paying for all the apps that only have one or two decent shows each I plan on bouncing around a lot.

DemonGeminiX
01-24-2020, 05:32 PM
I cut cable a couple years ago. Just dropped ATT TVNow a couple months ago because of price increases. Currently have Amazon, Disney+ and Slingtv that I pay for and have the account info on my families Netflix & Hulu.

So far the trend is no contracts so soon I'm gonna drop Slingtv for awhile and use that money toward HBO for a month or two. So basically instead of paying for all the apps that only have one or two decent shows each I plan on bouncing around a lot.

:-k

Westworld?

Godfather
01-24-2020, 07:46 PM
At this point I'm ready for someone to come along and just offer subscription packages with the same model as cable. Give me one app/service I can log into, pick my subscriptions (netflix, crave/hbo, disney+, etc) and be done with all the separate bills and log-ins. Let me just see what shows/movies I have all in one spot, and add or drop subscriptions monthly as I see fit.

Everyone is all proud of cutting cable, and I do love being able to watch what I want when I want... but this is just becoming a huge pain in the ass.

Pony
01-24-2020, 09:18 PM
:-k

Westworld?

I started Watchmen and His Dark Materials back in the fall when I was working and never got to finish them.

Pony
01-24-2020, 09:19 PM
At this point I'm ready for someone to come along and just offer subscription packages with the same model as cable. Give me one app/service I can log into, pick my subscriptions (netflix, crave/hbo, disney+, etc) and be done with all the separate bills and log-ins. Let me just see what shows/movies I have all in one spot, and add or drop subscriptions monthly as I see fit.

Everyone is all proud of cutting cable, and I do love being able to watch what I want when I want... but this is just becoming a huge pain in the ass.

Amazon seems to be trending this way, I know you can add HBO,etc into your Prime subscription.

Godfather
01-24-2020, 09:29 PM
Amazon seems to be trending this way, I know you can add HBO,etc into your Prime subscription.

That's true eh. My wife's new phone came with a year of Apple Video or whatever it's called. I logged in and there's actually not much there unless you link it with your other subscriptions :lol:

Pony
01-24-2020, 11:20 PM
Here's a list of "channels" you can currently add to Prime. Hopefully they will continue this trend and get some more big name apps.

MLB.TV
HBO
Showtime
Cinemax
PGA Tour Live
Starz
Noggin
Nick Hits
Britbox
Sundance Now
CBS All Access
Hallmark Movies Now
Acorn TV
Boomerang
PBS Kids
PBS Masterpiece
Shudder
Smithsonian Plus
Up Faith & Family
LIfetime Movie Club
Comedy Central Now
Curiosity Stream

lost in melb.
01-26-2020, 02:40 AM
Or.. Just don't get any of the stuff, watch normal TV and cherry pick and pay for a few things that you really want to see.. Fuck these guys and their $150 a month stipend to watch a stupid box in your living room all day. Beleive me, you will adjust and you will live.. All this shit you guys watch.. I have missed nothing that has changed my life in any way.

Exactly. I confess I torrent for precisely this reason. Not just money, but moreso convenience. I took out a Netflix subscription, but of course the moment I leave the US I'm forbidden to watch it.

lost in melb.
01-26-2020, 02:42 AM
Here's a list of "channels" you can currently add to Prime. Hopefully they will continue this trend and get some more big name apps.

MLB.TV
HBO
Showtime
Cinemax
PGA Tour Live
Starz
Noggin
Nick Hits
Britbox
Sundance Now
CBS All Access
Hallmark Movies Now
Acorn TV
Boomerang
PBS Kids
PBS Masterpiece
Shudder
Smithsonian Plus
Up Faith & Family
LIfetime Movie Club
Comedy Central Now
Curiosity Stream

Are these all included within the one Prime membership? If so that's not a bad deal

Teh One Who Knocks
01-26-2020, 02:48 AM
Are these all included within the one Prime membership? If so that's not a bad dealNo, you have to pay extra for those.

lost in melb.
01-26-2020, 02:52 AM
No, you have to pay extra for those.

I just checked. It's basically the same cost. It's just the convenience of not having to fill out a new form :meh:

lost in melb.
01-26-2020, 02:54 AM
If they had an HBO/Netflix combination for $20 per month, free legacy downloads and reasonable fee for latest release series and movies ( not included in their charter) all within one convenient download package I'd bite

DemonGeminiX
01-26-2020, 12:51 PM
Are these all included within the one Prime membership? If so that's not a bad deal

No, like Lance said, they each cost extra. I have Netflix and Amazon Prime, but I also pay for an HBO subscription @ $14.99/month through Amazon Prime. Pony's just stating that you can get a majority of your pay subscriptions in one place instead of having to go to a bunch of different websites to get what you want.

And I'm like you, I don't subscribe to everything that has what I want to see because frankly, I might watch one show on a network, period, and it's not worth it to me to pay for a mess of shit I'm not gonna watch. So I download the odd show here and there if I really want to see it. Although lately, I've been leaning towards Muddy's point of view and seriously considering getting rid of all of it. I've always been happier with reading books in the first place.

However, I am a big Star Wars and comic book geek, so Disney+ is kind of a no brainer for me. I just haven't brought myself to subscribing to it yet.

DemonGeminiX
01-26-2020, 12:55 PM
If they had an HBO/Netflix combination for $20 per month, free legacy downloads and reasonable fee for latest release series and movies ( not included in their charter) all within one convenient download package I'd bite

That would be nice, but greed...

lost in melb.
01-26-2020, 01:13 PM
That would be nice, but greed...

Yeah, take your point. I usually Binge watch a series, then have breaks for fresh air. Too tempting to keep going...

lost in melb.
01-26-2020, 01:18 PM
No, like Lance said, they each cost extra. I have Netflix and Amazon Prime, but I also pay for an HBO subscription @ $14.99/month through Amazon Prime. Pony's just stating that you can get a majority of your pay subscriptions in one place instead of having to go to a bunch of different websites to get what you want.

And I'm like you, I don't subscribe to everything that has what I want to see because frankly, I might watch one show on a network, period, and it's not worth it to me to pay for a mess of shit I'm not gonna watch. So I download the odd show here and there if I really want to see it. Although lately, I've been leaning towards Muddy's point of view and seriously considering getting rid of all of it. I've always been happier with reading books in the first place.

However, I am a big Star Wars and comic book geek, so Disney+ is kind of a no brainer for me. I just haven't brought myself to subscribing to it yet.

I feel an ethical obligation to pay for a decent show. But they make it really hard sometimes. For example Game of Thrones was only available in Australia by one provider (Foxtel) with shitty resolution. Plus there was a time delay. We always get releases after the US and they expect people to wait... Then they bitch about pirating when people don't.

IMO the whole borders and timezone thing is totally 20th Century. It's got to go ( at least with digital media)

DemonGeminiX
01-26-2020, 01:20 PM
Yeah, take your point. I usually Binge watch a series, then have breaks for fresh air. Too tempting to keep going...

I'm not much for binging. I'll do it, but after I'm done binging a show, I don't want to watch anything for a while. If I stick to the episode per week format, then I'm all good. There's only so much junk I can take in one sitting.

DemonGeminiX
01-26-2020, 01:30 PM
I feel an ethical obligation to pay for a decent show. But they make it really hard sometimes. For example Game of Thrones was only available in Australia by one provider (Foxtel) with shitty resolution. Plus there was a time delay. We always get releases after the US and they expect people to wait... Then they bitch about pirating when people don't.

IMO the whole borders and timezone thing is totally 20th Century. It's got to go ( at least with digital media)

That's funny, because I hear the same thing here with respect to British shows. I know a bunch of people that want to watch things like A Discovery of Witches (BBC or Sky One, I can't remember which), but it's released in Britain on a certain date, but then we have to wait a few months to get it here, then there's no advertising for it and they air it at a ridiculous time slot that nobody can stay up for. So these people are waiting months for a British tv show, not sure if it's actually going to air here in the states, and when it does, they miss it. Then they're calling me to find a source online for it so they can download it.

I've thought about the time zone and release difference too, and every time I've come across it while reading release dates and times for things I want to see, I always think "if they're releasing a show/season/episode at a particular date and time on a streaming service here in the US, then why don't they just release it at the same time for the rest of the world?" It doesn't make any sense.

Teh One Who Knocks
01-26-2020, 04:42 PM
And the worst part of this whole waiting to release things in certain regions is staying away from spoilers that will ruin the show for you. It's not like the old days where you could avoid things in the media, between the 24 cable and online news cycles and social media, it's virtually impossible to avoid things anymore.

Muddy
01-26-2020, 06:33 PM
And the worst part of this whole waiting to release things in certain regions is staying away from spoilers that will ruin the show for you. It's not like the old days where you could avoid things in the media, between the 24 cable and online news cycles and social media, it's virtually impossible to avoid things anymore.

I like seeing movie plots unfold on the side of my drink cups from fast food joints..:razz: