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Teh One Who Knocks
02-07-2020, 01:03 PM
JACOB JAMES RICH - sp!ked


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Amid the political circus of Donald Trump’s impeachment, the US Congress passed a law raising the minimum age to purchase tobacco to 21, as part of its latest spending bill. Shortly before Christmas, Trump signed the bill into law, and the sale of all tobacco products to people under the age of 21 in the US became illegal.

Supporters of the bill argued that raising the age at which you can buy tobacco products will reduce their use by young Americans. And they are probably correct. But the criminal-justice implications may disproportionately outweigh any public-health gains.

The new tobacco age hike will likely mean that millions of young Americans will now receive criminal records unnecessarily. That is certainly what has happened in relation to alcohol criminalisation. According to the Department of Justice, the 18-to-20 age group endures eight times the amount of ‘liquor law’ arrests than the 21-to-24 age group do. This disparity has doubled since the alcohol age limit was raised to 21 nationwide in 1984. And this is not because underage Americans drink more than other adults. Federal data show that they actually tend to drink and binge much less than almost all other young adult age groups. Rather, they’re arrested simply because it’s illegal for them to possess alcohol. Now the US risks promoting the same overzealous police approach for tobacco users.

It is also highly likely that people of colour will be disproportionately affected by the raising of the smoking age. Indeed, racial minorities have suffered the most from the alcohol age hike, with black minors 21 per cent more likely to be charged with underage drinking than white minors, despite black minors drinking 36 per cent less than white minors. As is always the case, prohibition hurts the marginalised the most.

In any case, the tobacco bill was completely unnecessary. According to the Monitoring the Future Survey, conducted by the University of Michigan, just 5.8 per cent of high-schoolers are now smoking, this is the lowest level in American history.

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This can partly be explained by a corresponding rise in youth vaping, which, according to New York University, primarily consists of current or past cigarette smokers switching to e-cigarettes. But this is still a good thing: e-cigarettes are at least 95 per cent healthier than conventional cigarettes, according to Public Health England.

Almost all of the trends suggest that tobacco has never posed less of a threat to public health in the US. But then tobacco controllers’ actions are never motivated by mere health concerns. They are driven by a dream of prohibition. If they could, they would make tobacco products completely illegal. Alex Azar, the Department of Health and Human Services secretary, Scott Gottlieb, the former Food and Drug Administration (FDA) commissioner, and Stanton Glantz, an FDA-funded tobacco researcher, have all proposed reducing nicotine in cigarettes to ‘non-addictive’ levels – effectively making cigarettes illegal. The surgeon general’s report on smoking even endorses ‘endgame strategies’, including prohibitions on entire categories of tobacco products.

Such broad bans are hopefully political non-starters. But whenever there is an opportunity to move closer to complete prohibition, controllers seize the moment. As President William Howard Taft famously said, ‘No tendency is quite so strong in human nature as the desire to lay down rules of conduct for other people’.

This tendency is certainly strong in senators Mitch McConnell and Tim Kaine, who co-sponsored the tobacco bill, as well as the members of Congress and the Senate who voted for it. They are all now complicit in unnecessarily criminalising millions of Americans.

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Lawmakers still allow 18- to 20-year-olds to be sent to war, but now these same young people can’t buy tobacco products. That’s ridiculous. If any adult of whatever age wants to smoke tobacco without making trouble for anyone else, they should have the freedom to do so. It is not the federal government’s job to criminalise adults for making adult decisions.

Godfather
02-08-2020, 03:25 AM
I still think education has to be the best weapon we have. If teens want booze, drugs and alcohol... they'll find it. What worked for my generation (in my view) was the shit they taught us about the consequences of smoking, drinking and driving and unprotected sex. They once had a chick in who killed her cousin and best friends drinking and driving to speak to us about how brutally it ruined her life. Another year a dude who paralyzed himself from the neck down drinking and driving, and had to type with his tongue to speak (it was visibly frustrating for him to type, which was the hardest part to watch for some reason). Same thing for smoking, there were some very graphic films in health class. Scared me off it.

lost in melb.
02-08-2020, 04:47 AM
Agreed. And also, quite frankly a fat dirty tax helps as disincentive

DemonGeminiX
02-08-2020, 12:07 PM
And also, quite frankly a fat dirty tax helps as disincentive

Not really. Cost doesn't really curb the addiction and what addicts are willing to spend to get their fix.

Teh One Who Knocks
02-08-2020, 12:36 PM
Not really. Cost doesn't really curb the addiction and what addicts are willing to spend to get their fix.You could also posit that a heavy tax on things like tobacco and alcohol disproportionately affect poor people more because they are the ones that can least afford to sustain their habit. And like you said, it's an addiction and they will always have money for that, even if it means they don't have money for what they really need, like food and rent.

lost in melb.
02-08-2020, 08:40 PM
Not really. Cost doesn't really curb the addiction and what addicts are willing to spend to get their fix.

It can be quite a deterrent for starting. Perhaps not so good for those that are already addicted

DemonGeminiX
02-08-2020, 08:43 PM
It can be quite a deterrent for starting. Perhaps not so good for those that are already addicted

I'm not so sure that's entirely true either. I was poorer than dirt when I started smoking and in a much better financial situation when I quit 10 years later.

lost in melb.
02-08-2020, 08:43 PM
I was just going to add this...(what you can buy for the same amount of money)

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lost in melb.
02-08-2020, 08:45 PM
I'm not so sure that's entirely true either. I was poorer than dirt when I started smoking and in a much better financial situation when I quit 10 years later.

Fair enough. I think it just adds to the uncool factor with the packaging and the lack of advertising. Kids don't seem that interested anymore.

But I have no way of proving it...

DemonGeminiX
02-08-2020, 08:59 PM
Fair enough. I think it just adds to the uncool factor with the packaging and the lack of advertising. Kids don't seem that interested anymore.

But I have no way of proving it...

From what I've read and experienced, a lot of kids have turned their backs on the bad habits that we used to think were cool back when we were their age. Despite my brother still smoking, neither one of his boys have any desire to pick it up, they both can rattle off the negative effects of smoking, and they've been torturing my brother to quit for the past decade or more. And I'm talking about high school and college aged kids. My younger nephew just turned 18 about a week ago.