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PorkChopSandwiches
07-22-2011, 03:11 PM
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As Washington worries about the United States' growing deficit problem, there's mounting evidence the government is failing to collect taxes from wealthy individuals and corporations. A piece in today's New York Times by David Kocieniewski outlines how G.E. skirted paying any taxes on $5.1 billion in profits in 2010--in addition to claiming a $3.2 billion tax credit.
The main reason G.E. is so adept at avoiding paying taxes, Kocieniewski writes, is because it's compiled an all-star team of in-house tax professionals plucked from the Internal Revenue Service, the Treasury Department, and "virtually all the tax-writing committees in Congress."
G.E.-- whose slogan is "Imagination at Work"-- has in-house, Kocieniewski writes, what is considered by many to be the best tax law firm in the world. Their secret to success is a familiar one, though G.E. appears to have perfected it: "fierce lobbying for tax breaks and innovative accounting that enables it to concentrate its profits offshore."
Writes Kocieniewski:
In a regulatory filing just a week before the Japanese disaster put a spotlight on the company's nuclear reactor business, G.E. reported that its tax burden was 7.4 percent of its American profits, about a third of the average reported by other American multinationals. Even those figures are overstated, because they include taxes that will be paid only if the company brings its overseas profits back to the United States. With those profits still offshore, G.E. is effectively getting money back.
Such strategies, as well as changes in tax laws that encouraged some businesses and professionals to file as individuals, have pushed down the corporate share of the nation's tax receipts — from 30 percent of all federal revenue in the mid-1950s to 6.6 percent in 2009.
In an interesting twist, President Obama recently asked G.E. CEO Jeffrey Immelt to be his chief outside economic adviser, and the company recently came under fire for being the manufacturer of the faulty reactors that sparked Japan's nuclear crisis in the wake of the devastating earthquake and tsunami.

Softdreamer
07-22-2011, 03:22 PM
No surprises there..

You should see the number of UK companies and even politicians that manage to avoid tax paying.
But what do you expect when the major shareholders also finance the political system.


Cut in corporation tax anyone?

Acid Trip
07-22-2011, 03:37 PM
This story is very, very old. Immelt has been one of Obama's advisers for some time now.

PorkChopSandwiches
07-22-2011, 03:46 PM
Only a couple months old
http://beta.news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/g-e-paid-no-taxes-5-1-billion-20110325-082417-878.html

Teh One Who Knocks
07-22-2011, 03:47 PM
This story is very, very old. Immelt has been one of Obama's advisers for some time now.

Yup, I forget exactly how many times he's been to the White House, but it's a lot.



And as for cutting corporate taxes, they should be. The US has some of the highest corporate taxes in the entire world.

PorkChopSandwiches
07-22-2011, 03:54 PM
0 isnt very high

Teh One Who Knocks
07-22-2011, 04:04 PM
It's all in who ya know it seems ;)

FBD
07-22-2011, 04:20 PM
0 isnt very high

0 for some and a whole bunch for others - its all in how big you are and who you know - which is another reason why small businesses are hammered most of all from all this crap.

PorkChopSandwiches
07-22-2011, 04:24 PM
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Godfather
07-22-2011, 04:30 PM
And as for cutting corporate taxes, they should be. The US has some of the highest corporate taxes in the entire world.

Thank God we got the Conservatives in. They seem to recognize that historically, lower tax rates means more money in company's pockets and thus more jobs.

The liberals and NDP would just raise the fug out of them and call it a day :roll:

FBD
07-22-2011, 05:19 PM
Thank God we got the Conservatives in. They seem to recognize that historically, lower tax rates means more money in company's pockets and thus more jobs.

The liberals and NDP would just raise the fug out of them and call it a day :roll:

and not think twice of the impacts on business or economy,
then when its trashed and shitty, blame the other side for obstructing their grand plans to make the country into Utopia!

Softdreamer
07-22-2011, 08:13 PM
0 for some and a whole bunch for others - its all in how big you are and who you know - which is another reason why small businesses are hammered most of all from all this crap.

agreed, small business success (the American dream)
goes against corporate productivity (the American reality)


and yet so many Americans still live in dreamland :rolleyes:

FBD
07-22-2011, 08:37 PM
you speak of those as if they are mutually exclusive.

Softdreamer
07-22-2011, 08:44 PM
They pretty much are, as one successful corporation takes the place of thousands of small businesses.
Left un-interrupted pretty much everyone would end up working for wall-mart eventually.

The nature of the beast.

deebakes
07-23-2011, 01:48 AM
:puke:

FBD
07-23-2011, 02:37 PM
They pretty much are, as one successful corporation takes the place of thousands of small businesses.
Left un-interrupted pretty much everyone would end up working for wall-mart eventually.

The nature of the beast.
The amusing part is, overregulation assists a big business in that goal.

Of course it almost never happens to that extent of monopoly.

Anyway, its the nature of competition - certain things will scale to a certain size. Look at the size of sharks before the great extinctions that grew 3, 4 times the size they are today, simply because the conditions were different.

That doesnt mean there wont always be some new up and coming venture that can knock you off of the sand pile, man. That's what a free market is all about, go out and stake your piece, make a profit on it. People arent going to NOT make a business in a certain niche because somebody's already doing it.

Leefro
07-23-2011, 11:38 PM
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CUNTS ;)

Softdreamer
07-24-2011, 10:33 AM
That doesnt mean there wont always be some new up and coming venture that can knock you off of the sand pile, man. That's what a free market is all about, go out and stake your piece, make a profit on it. People arent going to NOT make a business in a certain niche because somebody's already doing it.

This is becoming harder and harder to do though... rents for shop space are so high that it is virtually impossible to open a competitive store, unless of course you have the negotiating power of a large company.
and to knock a market leader off the top spot, you have to yourself become a large company.

Small town businesses are extinct not because of their sustainability, but because they have been targeted by the big guns and deliberately wiped out. How else do you explain the pricing tiers of large companies? they undercut competition until they have gone under, then hike up the prices to maximise profits.

Take the UK pub trade. A look at the pricelist at a company owned pub vs a tenancy in the same town. They will even put themselves out of business if they know they can sell the leasehold on every 2-3 years. they dont mind a drop in sales from the tenancy, as they profit from the leasehold sale and monthly rent.
It happens with fast food places in the US too.