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I see a lot of these online, this is the most difficult I've come across IMO. I think I know the answer.
We're a brighter than average bunch here, lets see if we can beat the 99.9% I believe got it wrong on Facebook.
https://i.imgur.com/uasaU68.jpg
lost in melb.
07-16-2021, 11:01 AM
If the straws are blocked 6, if not, 2
If the straws are blocked 6, if not, 2
6 is blocked at the bottom. Why 2? (2 was the most common answer)
DemonGeminiX
07-16-2021, 12:56 PM
Ok, so the lines crossing openings and joints are blocking the flow?
DemonGeminiX
07-16-2021, 01:05 PM
Ok, so the lines crossing openings and joints are blocking the flow?
Ok, assuming this above:
6, 5, 4, and 3 are all blocked... actually, all of the standard flow points are blocked. The first apparent breach occurs right above the main-3 joint, so the fluid traveling downward will back up to that first breach, and following along that outer line leads to the liquid dropping into the 2 cup. So 2 will be filled first.
Ok, assuming this above:
6, 5, 4, and 3 are all blocked... actually, all of the standard flow points are blocked. The first apparent breach occurs right above the main-3 joint, so the fluid traveling downward will back up to that first breach, and following along that outer line leads to the liquid dropping into the 2 cup. So 2 will be filled first.
Assuming a liquid will flow along the top of a straw?
Griffin
07-16-2021, 01:53 PM
6
6
6 is blocked at the bottom
DemonGeminiX
07-16-2021, 02:16 PM
Assuming a liquid will flow along the top of a straw?
Good point. Ok, then it drips from the breach and falls between 3 and 4 and no cup gets filled at all.
Good point. Ok, then it drips from the breach and falls between 3 and 4 and no cup gets filled at all.
Most posts I saw said #2. I think there would be enough surface tension for the liquid to run down the underside of straw 3 into cup 3. What do you think?
DemonGeminiX
07-16-2021, 02:33 PM
Most posts I saw said #2. I think there would be enough surface tension for the liquid to run down the underside of straw 3 into cup 3. What do you think?
I think, based on your surface tension argument, 2 gets some, 3 gets some more, and we can even assume that 4 gets some and 5 gets a drop or two by the Jeff Goldblum Jurassic Park Chaos Theory explanation, but if we're assuming typical fluid dynamics, then none gets filled completely and there's a clean up between cups 3 and 4. But if we're going by shitty android 2-dimensional game physics, then 2 gets filled.
I think, based on your surface tension argument, 2 gets some, 3 gets some more, and we can even assume that 4 gets some and 5 gets a drop or two by the Jeff Goldblum Jurassic Park Chaos Theory explanation, but if we're assuming typical fluid dynamics, then none gets filled completely and there's a clean up between cups 3 and 4. But if we're going by shitty android 2-dimensional game physics, then 2 gets filled.
If we calculate rate of pour vs the size of the openings into the mix, I think you may be right, the majority will likely end up everywhere but in the cups
Griffin
07-16-2021, 03:29 PM
6 is blocked at the bottom
:meh:
lost in melb.
07-16-2021, 04:21 PM
6 is blocked at the bottom. Why 2? (2 was the most common answer)
If all the blocks are real it must be 2 or 3. The liquid will flow out of the hole into either 2 or 3.
2 if the liquid flows quickly, like a waterfall.
3 if slowly and it hugs the outside of the straw :-k
Teh One Who Knocks
07-19-2021, 10:27 AM
Is that an upside down menorah? :-s
DemonGeminiX
07-19-2021, 11:22 AM
Is that an upside down menorah? :-s
:-s
Hannukah in July?
Teh One Who Knocks
07-19-2021, 11:28 AM
Heresy! :x
lost in melb.
07-19-2021, 12:41 PM
Is that an upside down menorah? :-s
:-s
Hannukah in July?
I can see my 13 years of University education has been for nothing :|
Teh One Who Knocks
07-19-2021, 01:56 PM
I can see my 13 years of University education has been for nothing :|
Not my fault you aren't observant :hand:
Godfather
07-22-2021, 07:11 AM
I'm not smart enough to follow the fluid dynamics line of thought, but does it not go:
- Path to 5 fills but is blocked.
- Path to 4 fills but is blocked.
- Path to 6 fills but is blocked.
- Path to 3 fills but is blocked.
- Water escapes and starts to fill 2.
- Water backs up to path to 7 but is blocked.
- Water fills to paths to 1 then 2 but is blocked.
- Water may back up to path that allows escape over to 1, but by then the path to 2 is still filling 2.
- Maybe there's a backup and water spills over the top to 7 and 1, but by then 2 has been filling the entire time
My vote is 2.
https://i.imgur.com/1lCyh09.png
lost in melb.
07-22-2021, 08:30 AM
If all the blocks are real it must be 2 or 3. The liquid will flow out of the hole into either 2 or 3.
2 if the liquid flows quickly, like a waterfall.
3 if slowly and it hugs the outside of the straw :-k
I'm not smart enough to follow the fluid dynamics line of thought, but does it not go:
- Path to 5 fills but is blocked.
- Path to 4 fills but is blocked.
- Path to 6 fills but is blocked.
- Path to 3 fills but is blocked.
- Water escapes and starts to fill 2.
- Water backs up to path to 7 but is blocked.
- Water fills to paths to 1 then 2 but is blocked.
- Water may back up to path that allows escape over to 1, but by then the path to 2 is still filling 2.
- Maybe there's a backup and water spills over the top to 7 and 1, but by then 2 has been filling the entire time
My vote is 2.
https://i.imgur.com/1lCyh09.png
Professional diagram.
Or if filled slowly 3??
Godfather
07-23-2021, 03:08 AM
There's a fairly large ledge to get over to drip back to #3.
Someone could build this thing in this free browser based fluid dynamics game, that would be funny but too time consuming for me :lol:
https://dan-ball.jp/en/javagame/dust2/
There's a fairly large ledge to get over to drip back to #3.
Someone could build this thing in this free browser based fluid dynamics game, that would be funny but too time consuming for me :lol:
You're assuming the liquid will run along the top of the straw? I think (if poured slowly) it would run down the underside of #2 straw and fill cup 3.
Godfather
07-24-2021, 05:35 AM
You're assuming the liquid will run along the top of the straw? I think (if poured slowly) it would run down the underside of #2 straw and fill cup 3.
Sorry when I said to get back to #3 I meant #2, I don't think it can run backward enough to #2 to fill it before #3 is full. I tried the fluid dynamics game and tried to match the angle, I don't think much liquid will run back along the edge of the straw towards #2 at all.
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