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Teh One Who Knocks
08-12-2021, 05:34 PM
By Nick Cater - sp!ked


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Inserting a word like ‘only’ before the number of coronavirus deaths has become a mark of callousness in this sentimental age. Yet the coronavirus death toll in Australia demands to be put into perspective given the draconian restrictions to economic and social life now in force.

There have been around 30 deaths in Australia since cases began to rise at the start of July. In Britain, around 2,000 people died of Covid-19 in that same period, but Britons have not been incarcerated in their own homes and the army is not manning border checkpoints between Surrey and Kent.

The meek acceptance of some of the harshest lockdowns in the world in the land of Crocodile Dundee cries out for an explanation. Why do the Brits have the courage to wander around freely after recording 188,000 positive tests in a week? Why aren’t they being kept at home for their own safety? Why aren’t their movements controlled by a list of regulations 27 pages long, as they are in Melbourne after a mere 50 locally acquired cases were discovered in the same period? Why is it okay for Brits to stand maskless to order two pints of lager and a packet of crisps when the picnic police are fining people in Sydney a thousand bucks for the crime of eating a sandwich in the park?

Since the odds of having caught the virus in Australia so far is tiny, as are the chances of it killing healthy people under the age of 70, one would have thought Australians would have collectively told the public-health nags to pull their bloody heads in. Not so. Many people want them to go harder. The premier of New South Wales, Gladys Berejiklian, for instance, is constantly badgered at her press conferences for being too soft, for not locking down harder and sooner, and for not extending the indoor mask rule to everywhere outside the home.

The simple explanation is that Australians are behaving this way because most are scared witless. The July edition of Ipsos’s regular report, What Worries the World, found that Australians fret about Covid more than people in 25 of the 28 countries surveyed.

Australia’s good fortune in controlling the spread of earlier Covid-19 variants is rapidly becoming a curse with the arrival of the far more infectious Delta variant. One reason for its early success was the prompt closure of external borders and a dogged commitment to keep them that way. The number of passengers on inbound international flights has been restricted for 16 months, making it devilishly difficult for Australian citizens to come home, let alone for others to visit. The compulsory-detention rule used to apply only to those arriving without a visa. In a grim irony, today everyone is arrested the moment they step off the plane, frog-marched on to a bus by armed police, driven to a quarantine hotel with a police motorcycle escort and forbidden from stepping out of their room for a fortnight. In the spirit of the Magna Carta, no one is exempt. As I write, our 28th prime minister is incarcerated in a 4.5 star tourist hotel that has seen better days following his return from official duties in London and India.

In addition to lockable borders and first-class universal healthcare, Australia possesses a greater strength that has, regretfully, been largely untapped: a tolerant, liberal democracy where the rules are willingly obeyed by consent, not coercion. Australia’s strong social fabric and spirit of volunteerism – usually manifested in networks of community institutions like surf life-saving clubs, ‘flying doctors’ and rural fire brigades – has not been called on to help.

Instead, the instruments of public-health compliance are the police, supplemented by the army, and so-called ‘authorised officers’ – petty officials with extraordinary powers who can order you to stand in line, or board a bus, and can even compel you to enter a hotel room where your alcohol consumption will be monitored and restricted for the next 14 days.

There must have been a saner, more reasonable approach we could have adopted – one that wasn’t built on the nutty idea that Australia and New Zealand could eliminate the coronavirus altogether, and then use magical powers to keep it out. Reason, however, has been an ineffective weapon in responding to the many public-policy absurdities that have perplexed us since coronavirus entered our lives. Policy is largely being driven by the heart, not the head. Our response to the pandemic is sentimental, and the predominant emotion is fear. Combine that with the modern culture of safetyism and you end up with a real conundrum. How can we come out from under the blanket knowing there is a risk that someone might get sick and die? How can we ensure we’re safe against every known danger, let alone those we might not even know about? Every granny’s life is sacred after all.

The deification of chief government health officers, who have risen from obscurity to become minor celebrities, has been one of the biggest mistakes so far. It has allowed politicians to outsource responsibility and avoid doing a key part of their job, which is to decide the proper balance between competing policy imperatives and to test their judgement in parliament. Instead, the authority of parliament and a thousand years of history that lies behind it has been usurped by ‘The Science’. It is an odd kind of ‘science’ that denies us the right to dispute its findings, that ignores discordant evidence, that remains rigid in the face of new facts, that keeps its data close to its chest and that cancels dissenting voices. In other words, it is not science at all. It is a form of superstition.

It is as if the world has been gripped by a kind of trembling disease, an epidemic of twitching like the one that swept through European schools in the late 19th century. We are fighting not one, but two pandemics, as Niall Ferguson observes in Doom: The Politics of Catastrophe. There is a contagion of the body and a contagion of the mind, spreading with equal rapidity on two social networks, one physical and one virtual. Coronavirus is an unwelcome visitor to be sure, but the severity of the measures and the costs incurred – both financial and human – can hardly be said to be proportionate to the risk anymore.

With hindsight, the die was cast early last year by the extravagant modelling that wildly overstated the deadliness of what we then called the novel coronavirus. The fear that escaped from the Imperial College laboratory back then has proved resistant to new evidence. The political class was infected all at once by the early, extravagant assumptions, and the media were using their licence to exaggerate still further – because that’s what the media do.

Fear has been amplified in a feedback loop, circling back to the public where it has become entrenched, altering judgements of reality. In early June, when this year’s death toll in Australia was precisely one, a survey asked people to mark on a sliding scale the number of people who they thought had died. The average response was 256.

We’ve got to get out of this place, but agreeing on a plan is hard. Australia’s peculiar constitutional arrangement requires consensus on public-health matters between six state and two territory governments, which are responsible for health, and the Commonwealth government, which controls the external borders and writes the cheques. It’s complicated.

The plan currently relies on jabs as the threshold for safety, but even at the current rate of 250,000 a day, we’ll be well into the Australian summer before the 80 per cent target is met. The truth, hardly spoken, is that even before the arrival of vaccines, many fewer Australians were likely to end up in hospital or to die from coronavirus than at the start of the pandemic. Improved medical knowledge, safety procedures at nursing homes and the decency of the Australian population, most of whom can be trusted most of the time to do the right thing, has achieved far more than the Wuhan-style command and control measures we have come to think of as normal.

The vaccines will further mitigate the risk, but as the British data demonstrate, they will not eliminate risk completely. So what next? Let us pray for the speedy development of a vaccine against fear and a booster shot of courage.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-12-2021, 05:34 PM
FYI: this is a British source, NOT an American one.

Muddy
08-12-2021, 05:51 PM
:lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
08-12-2021, 10:05 PM
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:facepalm:

DemonGeminiX
08-12-2021, 10:08 PM
Fear is the mind killer.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-12-2021, 10:13 PM
Fear is the mind killer.I can't even begin to imagine living life with that kind of fear that you can't even talk to someone or else you may die. Just, wow.

And what's worse is that it's the government telling them that.

Muddy
08-12-2021, 10:57 PM
What keeps me going is my interactions with strangers.. 99% of the time I feel like a make a friend..I'll speak first, I don't care..

Pony
08-12-2021, 11:00 PM
Fear is the mind killer.

Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration

Pony
08-12-2021, 11:03 PM
What keeps me going is my interactions with strangers.. 99% of the time I feel like a make a friend..I'll speak first, I don't care..

I had a very busy but fulfilling week at work. All day today guests were calling me by name just to ask how my day was, to offer me a beer, etc.

lost in melb.
08-13-2021, 12:12 AM
There have been around 30 deaths in Australia since cases began to rise at the start of July. In Britain, around 2,000 people died of Covid-19 in that same period

700 deaths vs 130,000

lost in melb.
08-13-2021, 12:13 AM
Our way worked. But delta needs a rethink.

lost in melb.
08-13-2021, 12:17 AM
The premier of New South Wales, Gladys Berejiklian, for instance, is constantly badgered at her press conferences for being too soft, for not locking down harder and sooner, and for not extending the indoor mask rule to everywhere outside the home.

Truth. You either do it properly or you don't. She just limps along

Pony
08-13-2021, 12:21 AM
Our way worked. But delta needs a rethink.

You'll be telling your grandkids "Back in the year 2019 we didn't have to stay inside and hide every time someone got sick".

lost in melb.
08-13-2021, 12:27 AM
You'll be telling your grandkids "Back in the year 2019 we didn't have to stay inside and hide every time someone got sick".

You guys should send your vaccines over, since you don't want them....

Pony
08-13-2021, 12:31 AM
You guys should send your vaccines over, since you don't want them....

What do you have to trade? 8-)

Muddy
08-13-2021, 01:50 AM
You guys should send your vaccines over, since you don't want them....

:lol: you don't really need them do you?

lost in melb.
08-13-2021, 02:20 AM
:lol: you don't really need them do you?

We need them! :yup:

The Monk
08-13-2021, 03:16 AM
I have no fear! We are probably one of the safest countries in the world (at least from CV19:lol:) with one of the strongest economies and in the main most of us are supportive of the measures that have kept us that way.

I feel quite safe in the community in Western Australia because of our enforcement of lockdowns and added to that I have had both vaccinations to enable me to feel even more confident.

The Monk
08-13-2021, 03:17 AM
:lol: you don't really need them do you?

It is a fact that because the country has weathered the pandemic very well, there are people now beginning to feel that they don't need to be vaccinated! Not a helpful attitude once there is an outbreak of a new variant.

Griffin
08-13-2021, 03:23 AM
Sterilize the weak, they aren't needed in the gene pool anyway.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-13-2021, 01:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEqAEUXwfTM

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3fnLGs3hgdHFz6luNCBTtP?si=nRl4-4-qSdaxY5ijncwBMw&dl_branch=1

Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-brendan-oneill-show/episode/59-australias-zero-covid-dystopia-with-nick-cater-86056438

iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/australias-zero-covid-dystopia-with-nick-cater/id1436524071?i=1000531809758

Teh One Who Knocks
08-13-2021, 05:36 PM
Podcast episode is definitely a good listen.

Pony
08-14-2021, 12:00 PM
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

lost in melb.
08-14-2021, 12:11 PM
I don't have time to watch it.

Things have gotten worse and now the entire New South Wales is on lockdown.

What you don't understand is that we have no choice. The NSW branch of the Australian medical association (AMA) have said the medical system is going to be overwhelmed soon. It's that simple. We need to just feather it out a few more months until we get sufficient jabs in the arm. Unlike you, we have a largely unvaccinated population and the Delta variant sweeping through.

I hope you can pause to understand what I'm trying to say.

AMA: "The piecemeal approach to lockdown isn’t working. It creates an ‘us versus them’ mentality between LGAs, when really, we need to treat this virus like it’s everywhere, all the time. Every person in NSW must play their part or more people are going to get sick and sadly, more people are going to die.

Doctors from across NSW are exhausted and concerned for their community. Our already fragile rural and regional health system will be unable to cope with increases in cases.

Rural and regional doctors have supported their communities through bushfires, floods and Covid. Many have been unable to get locums or take leave.

Healthcare professionals are stepping up for their communities to vaccinate NSW residents, but vaccinations take time to work. Until we can get more jabs in arms, we need all residents to obey the restrictions.

Doctors across NSW are concerned that we are not going to be able to provide care for patients with other illnesses. If you are not worried about getting Covid, you should be worried about whether you will be able to get the care you need for other health conditions or unforeseen health emergencies."

Pony
08-14-2021, 10:48 PM
700 deaths vs 130,000

How many people died of cancer, lung disease the "Flu", old age, car accident, suicide or any other terminal illness during that time period? You're supposed to count those, we did.

Griffin
08-14-2021, 11:13 PM
That's been stated by pretty much everyone but keeps getting ignored.

lost in melb.
08-15-2021, 02:22 AM
How many people died of cancer, lung disease the "Flu", old age, car accident, suicide or any other terminal illness during that time period? You're supposed to count those, we did.

See my post just above yours.

The Monk
08-15-2021, 03:41 AM
How many people died of cancer, lung disease the "Flu", old age, car accident, suicide or any other terminal illness during that time period? You're supposed to count those, we did.

Too many! However, you can't catch cancer from someone else and die!

There's a sense of entitlement I perceive and a real sense of ignorance around CV-19. When everyonbe has their own medical degree and qualifications in immunology, then I will listen to them.

Pony
08-15-2021, 10:13 AM
See my post just above yours.

Your military could set up mobile hospitals to care for overflow like ours did under Trump.


Too many! However, you can't catch cancer from someone else and die!

There's a sense of entitlement I perceive and a real sense of ignorance around CV-19. When everyonbe has their own medical degree and qualifications in immunology, then I will listen to them.

I stayed in a Holiday Inn last night. I think my qualifications speak for themselves. And that wasn't the point I was trying to make.

DemonGeminiX
08-15-2021, 11:03 AM
When everyonbe has their own medical degree and qualifications in immunology, then I will listen to them.

You know, doctors can get shit wrong too. They are only human. This is a brand new thing. It usually takes, at the very least, decades of intense study to nail something down.

Griffin
08-15-2021, 11:39 AM
Actually there have been just as many qualified people speak out against how all of this farce has been handled but they have been shut down and kicked off social media platforms for having the audacity to question the tyrants perpetuating this shitstorm. You can no longer find any of the clips showing the lies of overflowing hospitals or any of the data showing grossly exaggerated case and death counts.
But hey, if some want to believe that their leaders would never lie and blindly follow every command without question then so be it.

Muddy
08-15-2021, 01:36 PM
Actually there have been just as many qualified people speak out against how all of this farce has been handled but they have been shut down and kicked off social media platforms for having the audacity to question the tyrants perpetuating this shitstorm. You can no longer find any of the clips showing the lies of overflowing hospitals or any of the data showing grossly exaggerated case and death counts.
But hey, if some want to believe that their leaders would never lie and blindly follow every command without question then so be it.

Happy delusional Sunday..! :lol:

The Monk
08-16-2021, 02:38 AM
You know, doctors can get shit wrong too. They are only human. This is a brand new thing. It usually takes, at the very least, decades of intense study to nail something down.

True - some times things are misjudged..... still I'd prefer my information from qualified medicos that internet users.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-16-2021, 09:41 AM
True - some times things are misjudged..... still I'd prefer my information from qualified medicos that internet users.

You mean doctors that you choose to believe at the time because what they are telling you fits your narrative as to what you want to believe.

The Monk
08-17-2021, 04:18 AM
You mean doctors that you choose to believe at the time because what they are telling you fits your narrative as to what you want to believe.

No - I'm not an American.... :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
08-17-2021, 10:37 AM
No - I'm not an American.... :lol:

Which means you can't think for yourself and you do what your government overlords tells you without question. :dunno:
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Better make sure you don't talk to or interact with anyone or you will die, your government says it, so it must be true.

lost in melb.
08-17-2021, 01:22 PM
Which means you can't think for yourself and you do what your government overlords tells you without question. :dunno:
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Better make sure you don't talk to or interact with anyone or you will die, your government says it, so it must be true.

She's weak as piss. Too little, too late :hand: