Taliban execute folk singer days after saying music is ‘forbidden,’ family says

[Teh One Who Knocks]

By Lee Brown | New York Post


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An Afghan folk singer has been executed by the Taliban just days after the Islamic fundamentalist group declared that "music is forbidden in Islam," according to his family.

Fawad Andarabi’s family told the Associated Press that he was shot dead Friday when enforcers returned to his home after earlier searching it and even drinking tea with him.

"They shot him in the head on the farm," his son, Jawad, said of the killing in the Andarabi Valley for which he was named.

"He was innocent, a singer who only was entertaining people," the grieving son said of his dad, who played a bowed lute called a ghichak and sang traditional songs about his country.

Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told the AP that the insurgents would investigate the incident, but had no other details on the killing in the area about 60 miles north of Kabul.

It came just days after Mujahid told the New York Times that music was being outlawed, just as it had been during the group’s brutal rule from 1996 until 2001.

"Music is forbidden in Islam," Mujahid told the paper, while insisting, "We’re hoping that we can persuade people not to do such things, instead of pressuring them."

Afghanistan’s former interior minister, Masoud Andarabi — who is not related — shared footage of the singer performing, saying he was "brutally killed" simply for "bringing joy to this valley and its people."

"As he sang here ‘our beautiful valley….land of our forefathers’ will not submit to Taliban’s brutality," he tweeted.

Karima Bennoune, the United Nations special rapporteur on cultural rights, said she had "grave concern" over Andarabi’s killing.

"We call on governments to demand the Taliban respect the #humanrights of #artists," she tweeted.

Agnes Callamard, secretary-general of Amnesty International, also decried the killing.

"There is mounting evidence that the Taliban of 2021 is the same as the intolerant, violent, repressive Taliban of 2001," she tweeted. "Nothing has changed on that front."

[DemonGeminiX]

Can't find anything saying that music is forbidden in Islam. However, murder is forbidden in Islam.

[Muddy]

"music is forbidden in Islam"

What a fun religion.

[Griffin]

but they get to fuck children and livestock :huh:

[lost in melb.]

Be great to get a report other than from family - much as I'm not surprised.

Perhaps he did X, Y, Z to piss of the Taliban, ya know.

[KevinD]

Man, Lost, you make excuses for all kinds of nasty people, don't you?

[lost in melb.]

Man, Lost, you make excuses for all kinds of nasty people, don't you?

Be careful what you say, please. I think we know this is anti-Biden outrage masquerading as some kind of sudden concern about peeps in middle east. I don't mean the people here necessarily, but the RW media.

It was this not so long ago, right?

https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/middle-east-ground-zero-ocean-problem-solved.jpg




With this article you know the point I'm making. The Taliban might not be simply going around executing musicians. He could have helped enemy combatants, etc. Why did they single him out? We only have his family's perspective.

[KevinD]

I won't "be carefull" when you continue to expose yourself for the liberal you are. Ive had great conversations with you via the site, and you seem nice a nice guy. I'm just beyond pissed off at liberals in general. I won't, at all give the f-ing Taliban the benefit of doubt. They are evil.

Your picture is a meme. There are lots of them out there I dont agree with, some I do, but mostly I take them for the satire they are.

[lost in melb.]

Fine. But if you're going to personally attack me, I suggest you base it on something more substantial than a NYP article.

You've brokered a deal with the Taliban, beginning with Trump and continued under Biden.

[Griffin]

Trumps deal was conditional with harsh ramifications if they didn't keep their end.

[lost in melb.]

And did they keep up their end?

[Griffin]

Yeah. Biden fucked this pig.

[lost in melb.]

Here is a slightly more nuanced take on music in Afghanistan.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58344197

[lost in melb.]

Yeah.

Well there we go.

[lost in melb.]

And while we are here, should the US have pulled out?

I was against it.

[Griffin]

We should have kept Bagram operational instead of turning off the lights and leaving in the middle of the night.

[lost in melb.]

We should have kept Bagram operational instead of turning off the lights and leaving in the middle of the night.

Agreed. One of many stupid decisions.

[Pony]

And while we are here, should the US have pulled out?

I was against it.

Short answer: It's complicated.

Long answer, we fucked a pig a long time ago when we decided that Al Qaeda = Bad, Taliban = Meh, not our problem. Choosing a "If you hide in the mountains and leave us alone, we will pretend you're not a threat" approach contributed to making it an unwinnable situation. That and Coalition policy that tied the hands of the soldiers on the ground (No night fighting, only defensive attacks, etc) meant that we were either going to be there forever or we were going to have to cut our losses.

I agree with your assessment that "we" once again (like Vietnam) didn't have the balls to go do whatever it took to eliminate the threats. (scorched earth might have been a bit overkill). Bureaucracy and the fact that we like to think of ourselves as liberators and want to fight humane wars against those who would murder babies in their beds. Our enemies know this and use it to their advantage.

So basically I think it was time to try and get out, taking civilians, equipment and refugees with us.

[KevinD]

Fine. But if you're going to personally attack me, I suggest you base it on something more substantial than a NYP article.

You've brokered a deal with the Taliban, beginning with Trump and continued under Biden.

I didn't personally attack you. I didnt call you any names. If me making an observation about your history of posting is an attack, well, I feel sorry for you.

All that said, let's just move on. You have your views which I believe flawed, and I have mine which you believe flawed. Neither of us will change. Friends still?

[Muddy]

We should have kept Bagram operational instead of turning off the lights and leaving in the middle of the night.

Kind of like a little mini Guantanamo?

[lost in melb.]

Short answer: It's complicated.

Long answer, we fucked a pig a long time ago when we decided that Al Qaeda = Bad, Taliban = Meh, not our problem. Choosing a "If you hide in the mountains and leave us alone, we will pretend you're not a threat" approach contributed to making it an unwinnable situation. That and Coalition policy that tied the hands of the soldiers on the ground (No night fighting, only defensive attacks, etc) meant that we were either going to be there forever or we were going to have to cut our losses.

I agree with your assessment that "we" once again (like Vietnam) didn't have the balls to go do whatever it took to eliminate the threats. (scorched earth might have been a bit overkill). Bureaucracy and the fact that we like to think of ourselves as liberators and want to fight humane wars against those who would murder babies in their beds. Our enemies know this and use it to their advantage.

So basically I think it was time to try and get out, taking civilians, equipment and refugees with us.

Agreed. It's the best move for the US, but certainly not for Afghanistan.

[lost in melb.]

I didn't personally attack you. I didnt call you any names. If me making an observation about your history of posting is an attack, well, I feel sorry for you.

All that said, let's just move on. You have your views which I believe flawed, and I have mine which you believe flawed. Neither of us will change. Friends still?

I'm not going to go back and check, but it felt like that. Pehaps because you're not that political that often it felt like more of a blow than it was.

I'll own it though. I'm going to treat anecdotes about the Taliban with reserve, because they are all Afghanistan has now. And look for progress, rather than perfection. I guess that's a lefty thing.

[lost in melb.]

I'm just reading that over half the interpreters were left behind. Terrible!

We really pulled the rug from under them. It's not just the US fault though. Allied forces pulled out long ago. I think we could have continued to support them and had a bit of a base there... Oh well.

[Griffin]

and only 6000 Americans. Kinda makes you wonder who the 120,000 they brought out are, doesn't it. :-k

[deebakes]

afghanies?