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PorkChopSandwiches
10-06-2021, 03:33 PM
A Colorado-based health system says it is denying organ transplants to patients not vaccinated against the coronavirus in “almost all situations,” citing studies that show these patients are much more likely to die if they get covid-19.

The policy illustrates the growing costs of being unvaccinated and wades into deeply controversial territory — the use of immunization status to decide who gets limited medical care. The mere idea of prioritizing the vaccinated for rationed health resources has drawn intense backlash, as overwhelmingly unvaccinated covid-19 patients push some hospitals to adopt “crisis standards of care,” in which health systems can prioritize patients for scarce resources based largely on their likelihood of survival.

UCHealth’s rules for transplants entered the spotlight Tuesday when Colorado state Rep. Tim Geitner (R) said it denied a kidney transplant to a Colorado Springs woman because she was not vaccinated against the coronavirus. Calling the decision “disgusting” and discriminatory, Geitner shared a letter that he said the patient received last week from UCHealth’s transplant center at the University of Colorado’s Anschutz Medical Campus in the city of Aurora.

The letter said the woman would be “inactivated” on a kidney transplant waiting list and had 30 days to start coronavirus vaccination. If she refused to be vaccinated, it said, she would be removed.

UCHealth declined to discuss particular patients because of federal privacy laws, and The Washington Post could not independently verify the woman’s story. But the health system confirmed Tuesday that nearly all of its transplant recipients and organ donors must get vaccinated against the coronavirus, in addition to other vaccinations and health requirements. A spokesman, Dan Weaver, said that other transplant centers in the United States have similar policies or are transitioning to them.

Conditions on organ transplants are not new. Weaver noted that transplant centers around the country may require patients to get other vaccinations, stop smoking, avoid alcohol or demonstrate that they will take crucial medications in an effort to ensure that people do well post-surgery and do not “reject” organs for which there is fierce competition.

More than 100,000 people are on the transplant waiting list, and only a fraction of those seeking a kidney got one in 2020, according to the federal government. An estimated 17 people die every day waiting for an organ.

Geitner did not immediately respond to inquiries Tuesday.

Multiples studies show that covid-19 is especially deadly for recipients of kidney transplants. Weaver said the mortality rate observed for transplant patients who develop covid-19 ranges from about 20 percent to more than 30 percent — far higher than the 1.6 percent fatality rate observed generally in the United States.

“An organ transplant is a unique surgery that leads to a lifetime of specialized management to ensure an organ is not rejected, which can lead to serious complications, the need for a subsequent transplant surgery, or even death,” Weaver wrote in an email. “Physicians must consider the short- and long-term health risks for patients as they consider whether to recommend an organ transplant.”

Living donors could also pass a coronavirus infection to an organ recipient, threatening the patient’s life, Weaver said.

Organ donations in the United States are coordinated through a national network run by the nonprofit United Network for Organ Sharing. UNOS does not set requirements for listing or removing someone as a transplant candidate, said spokeswoman Anne Paschke, so transplant centers such as UCHealth’s “make such decisions according to [their] individual medical judgment.”

Weaver did not clarify Tuesday what might qualify someone for an exception to the coronavirus vaccination rule.

Geitner said in a Facebook Live video that he has spoken with UCHealth and that there is “very little” it would do to accommodate those without coronavirus vaccinations.

The patient reportedly denied a transplant, whom Geitner did not identify, has about “12 percent of her kidney function left,” the state lawmaker said Tuesday. Geitner said that the patient has found a possible donor and that she already has antibodies that fight covid-19 infection.

Geitner also criticized UCHealth for firing unvaccinated staff, who represent less than 1 percent of the health system’s workforce, according to the Denver Post. Hospitals with mandates have said they appear to be successful, with almost all employees staying on, despite concerns the rules could deepen staffing strains.

While more than a third of Americans have yet to get one dose of a coronavirus vaccine, leaders and businesses have increasingly embraced vaccine mandates over intense opposition from Republicans, who champion personal choice. The unvaccinated may face unemployment or more expensive health insurance and in some places are barred from parts of public life, such as indoor dining.

Then there are the risks of the coronavirus. Cases, hospitalizations and deaths have spiked around the country this summer and fall as the highly contagious delta variant dominates, though Colorado has seen less of a surge. Current covid-19 hospitalizations in the state remain well below a peak from winter of 2020.

A recent report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that people who were not fully vaccinated this spring and summer were 10 times more likely to be hospitalized and 11 times more likely to die of covid-19.


As covid-19 cases stretch medical resources, being vaccinated can also count against patients in some cases. Faced with a recent federal push to conserve monoclonal antibodies, a highly effective covid-19 treatment, some officials have urged health-care providers to give them first to people who are unvaccinated.

Putting the unvaccinated first can “rub people the wrong way,” Karen Bloch, medical director of the antibody infusion clinic at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, told The Post last month.

But the reality is clear, she said: Those without shots are far more likely to die of covid-19.

Griffin
10-06-2021, 03:55 PM
Take the mark of the beast or be forbidden to function in human society.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-06-2021, 06:25 PM
From a local news station:


UCHealth provided information regarding the process in organ transplantation:


An organ transplant is a unique surgery that leads to a lifetime of specialized management to ensure an organ is not rejected, which can lead to serious complications, the need for a subsequent transplant surgery, or even death. Physicians must consider the short- and long-term health risks for patients as they consider whether to recommend an organ transplant.

Transplant centers across the nation, including the UCHealth Transplant Center, have specific requirements in place to protect patients both during and after surgery. For example, patients may be required to receive vaccinations including hepatitis B, MMR and others. Patients may also be required to avoid alcohol, stop smoking, or prove they will be able to continue taking their anti-rejection medications long after their transplant surgery. These requirements increase the likelihood that a transplant will be successful and the patient will avoid rejection.

In almost all situations, transplant recipients and living donors at UCHealth are now required to be vaccinated against COVID-19 in addition to meeting other health requirements and receiving additional vaccinations. Some U.S. transplant centers already have this requirement in place, and others are making this change in policy now.

Patients who have received a transplanted organ are at significant risk from COVID-19. Should they become infected, they are at particularly high risk of severe illness, hospitalization and death. Studies have found transplant patients who contract COVID-19 may have a mortality rate of 20% or higher. A living donor could pass COVID-19 infection on to an organ recipient even if they initially test negative for the disease, putting the patient’s life at risk.

One broad study found kidney transplant patients who contracted COVID-19 had a 21% mortality rate. Other studies found mortality rates ranging from 18% to 32% for transplant recipients who acquired COVID-19. For comparison, the CDC says the current mortality rate for everyone who has tested positive is 1.6%. This is why it is essential that both the recipient and the living donor be vaccinated and take other precautions prior to undergoing transplant surgery. Surgeries may be postponed until patients take all required precautions in order to give them the best chance at positive outcomes.

Hugh_Janus
10-07-2021, 09:11 PM
#secondclasscitizens

lost in melb.
10-09-2021, 06:11 AM
Come on, what they're saying is you need to be vaccinated... And there are logical reasons for this clearly argued and stated. It seems unfair but from a medical perspective it makes absolute sense.

There seems to be this really weird notion going around that we are not in the middle of a world-wide pandemic.

RBP
10-11-2021, 09:13 PM
Come on, what they're saying is you need to be vaccinated... And there are logical reasons for this clearly argued and stated. It seems unfair but from a medical perspective it makes absolute sense.

There seems to be this really weird notion going around that we are not in the middle of a world-wide pandemic.

Okay. Fair. But do we know the impact of mRNA vaccines on transplant success? I don't see that covered. Is it also fair to say that the perspective of the medical community is one sided, with not even an attempt to explain why mRNA vaccines are not an issue for transplants?

What's the mortality rate for vaccinated recipients?

perrhaps
10-12-2021, 09:10 AM
Okay. Fair. But do we know the impact of mRNA vaccines on transplant success? I don't see that covered. Is it also fair to say that the perspective of the medical community is one sided, with not even an attempt to explain why mRNA vaccines are not an issue for transplants?

What's the mortality rate for vaccinated recipients?

Interesting point, but wouldn't it be too soon for this to be accurately determined? After all, vaccines have only been available for less than ten months.

Griffin
10-12-2021, 12:15 PM
Interesting point, but wouldn't it be too soon for this to be accurately determined? After all, vaccines have only been available for less than ten months.

Sums up why all the discrimination and mandates are wrong.

lost in melb.
10-12-2021, 03:29 PM
Okay. Fair. But do we know the impact of mRNA vaccines on transplant success? I don't see that covered. Is it also fair to say that the perspective of the medical community is one sided, with not even an attempt to explain why mRNA vaccines are not an issue for transplants?

What's the mortality rate for vaccinated recipients?

The only thing I can find is that having a transplant might reduce the effectiveness of the covid vaccine.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41581-021-00491-7

Muddy
10-12-2021, 05:13 PM
Okay. Fair. But do we know the impact of mRNA vaccines on transplant success? I don't see that covered. Is it also fair to say that the perspective of the medical community is one sided, with not even an attempt to explain why mRNA vaccines are not an issue for transplants?

What's the mortality rate for vaccinated recipients?

My friend is a heart transplant patient and he did fine with the vax.. #true story

Griffin
10-12-2021, 05:44 PM
People also survived transplants long before the vaccine.... just sayin.

Muddy
10-12-2021, 05:59 PM
People also survived transplants long before the vaccine.... just sayin.

But did transplant patients survive Covid?

DemonGeminiX
10-12-2021, 10:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SFa0Th9P_E

deebakes
10-12-2021, 11:48 PM
the only allow cis plants? how dare they