Biden indicates he pressured emergency room to fast-track a 'good friend'

[Teh One Who Knocks]

By Kyle Morris | Fox News


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President Joe Biden said Thursday he personally reached out to a hospital the night before to ensure the wife of his "good friend" received immediate care because the "waiting room was so crowded."

"Last night, I was on the telephone with a person at an emergency hospital ward in Pennsylvania because a good friend had called, and he had rushed his significant other to the emergency room because this woman was having trouble breathing, had a high fever, and could not catch her breath," Biden said during a speech in Illinois promoting COVID-19 vaccine mandates for businesses. "They got her into the hospital. The waiting room was so crowded, things were so backed up they couldn't even get her to be seen initially. So, because I knew this person, I called. I called the desk receiving nurse and asked what the situation was."

"To make long story short, it took a while because all of the – not all – the vast majority of the emergency rooms and docs were occupied taking care of COVID patients," Biden added. "I bet every one of you can name somebody who got sent to the hospital with something other than COVID and couldn't get it taken care of."

Biden said that he "wasn’t complaining" when he made the phone call because doctors and nurses working in overcrowded hospitals are "getting the living hell kicked out of them, sometimes physically."

According to recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, America is experiencing a decline in daily COVID-19 deaths after a two-month steady increase to mid-September.

A seven-day moving average indicates a 12% decline over the last two weeks, from 1,630 on Sept. 21 to 1,428 on Oct. 5, per the latest available figures. Nevertheless, the country logged a grim milestone late Friday when the U.S. death toll from COVID-19 eclipsed 700,000.

Fox News did not immediately receive a response from the White House to a request for comment.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Can you even begin to imagine the outrage if Trump had done something like this?

[Pony]

Can you even begin to imagine the outrage if Trump had done something like this?

They would immediately blamed all who died that night on Trump. Regardless of cause of death. And even if no one died they still would have claimed he was a murderer.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

They would immediately blamed all who died that night on Trump. Regardless of cause of death. And even if no one died they still would have claimed he was a murderer.

Not to mention the fact that the media and the democrats would all be shrieking that this was an abuse of power by him. And I would imagine some far left dolt in the House would introduce articles of impeachment over it too.

[deebakes]

this guy is becoming more intolerable every day

[Griffin]

By Kyle Morris | Fox News

" – the vast majority of the emergency rooms and docs were occupied taking care of COVID patients," Biden added.

Refuses to admit the truth that his mandates have cut staffing drastically and is the reason people aren't being tended to. :meh:

[lost in melb.]

And yet the real moral of the story here is that 700000 dead, hospitals still crammed with (mostly unvaccinated) covid patients and your abysmal double jab rates.

Who gives a fuk about these politicians, right or left.

[KevinD]

And yet the real moral of the story here is that 700000 dead, hospitals still crammed with (mostly unvaccinated) covid patients and your abysmal double jab rates.

Who gives a fuk about these politicians, right or left.

Well, that's wrong. As per data in the Northern US states, the predominance of patients in hospitals and dying are fully vaxxed.

[lost in melb.]

Well, that's wrong. As per data in the Northern US states, the predominance of patients in hospitals and dying are fully vaxxed.

Got a link?

My understanding (according to a larger study that came out about a month ago) is people who were not fully vaccinated over spring and summer were more than 10 times more likely to be hospitalized, and 11 times more likely to die of covid-19, than those who were fully vaccinated.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm?s_cid=mm7037e1_w

[Griffin]

And yet the real moral of the story here is that 700000 dead, hospitals still crammed with (mostly unvaccinated) covid patients and your abysmal double jab rates.

Who gives a fuk about these politicians, right or left.

We've all covered the exaggerated numbers HERE in the US so many times that it is numbing.
The real question is why so many health care workers, people who deal with this on a daily basis and chose a career of helping people because they care, are giving up their lively hood over a questionable vaccine.

[lost in melb.]

We've all covered the exaggerated numbers HERE in the US so many times that it is numbing.
The real question is why so many health care workers, people who deal with this on a daily basis and chose a career of helping people because they care, are giving up their lively hood over a questionable vaccine.

If anything the numbers are underestimated. It's so easy to see this... it's enough to go to the "Deaths by all causes" database held by the CDC and compare the overall deaths in America during the period of the Covid-19 pandemic with a similar period in the past when there was no Covid, and you'll see that the "excess deaths" actually surpass this 718,000 - those are the deaths from Covid plus collateral damage due to care for other diseases being postponed or cancelled in the peak of the pandemic.

Covid-19 is the most deadly infectious disease outbreak in the history of the US (by absolute numbers). Killed more than all the major wars combined. And that's with all the communication advances, technology advances, vaccines, medicines and respirators, etc...

And it's far from over. And we aren't taking into account long term effects of recoverees.

Now, if you want to pretend otherwise, becuase of anectodes or feels or other theories, go for it. But the numbers don't lie.

[Griffin]

"database held by the CDC":suspect:
And who controls that? Oh yeah, the high and mighty lying fauci.

[lost in melb.]

I can't go down that path with you man, because then reality simply becomes whatever you want to believe it to be. I consider your attitudes to simply be part and parcel of the broken system.

But look on the bright side, you managed to go on your regular holiday with your wife without dying or being arrested. So it can't be that bad yet, eh?

:beerchug:

[Griffin]

welll...I did break my camper :meh:

[lost in melb.]

Libs :hand:

[Pony]

And yet the real moral of the story here is that 700000 dead, hospitals still crammed with (mostly unvaccinated) covid patients and your abysmal double jab rates.

Who gives a fuk about these politicians, right or left.

Hospitals aren't "crammed" with people. "At or over capacity" has nothing to do with the bed count. It's the amount of people the staff can handle. And currently they all have very few staff. A huge number of nurses and doctors have quit or been fired.

[lost in melb.]

Hospitals aren't "crammed" with people. "At or over capacity" has nothing to do with the bed count. It's the amount of people the staff can handle. And currently they all have very few staff. A huge number of nurses and doctors have quit or been fired.


Interesting. I'd like to read more. Do you have evidence that it is widespread? Or was this just a story from one hospital?

The raw data on hospitalization numbers seems to suggest otherwise, peaking a couple weeks ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/09/14/us/covid-hospital-icu-south.html

[Griffin]

Therein lies the problem.Government and big tech control what is allowed to be viewed. You want to read what is controlled by the main stream media so it will be biased and not portray what we witness firsthand.
Sad thing is, it doesn't matter how many of us say what you refuse to believe, it isn't so unless you see it put out by the MSM.

[lost in melb.]

Yes, but as discussed once you go down that path you can simply dismiss any government statistic - or actually anything that you disagree with - as a lie (being cleverly covered up by thousands/millions of people).

I am going to go with official government statistics and journals of record for now, despite their modest biases. And as I politely pointed out, you're not Zimbabwe yet.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

You may not have noticed, but we have been telling you our government is outright lying. We are here, we see the truth.

[RBP]

If you're unvaccinated, you died of COVID. If you're vaccinated, you died of heart failure, etc. I believe the statistics on the massive declines in other causes of death will be mind numbing when they catch up.

[lost in melb.]

You may not have noticed, but we have been telling you our government is outright lying. We are here, we see the truth.

Ok, but I note that you're not saying that the government has fabricated numbers. Thing is, it's actually doctors that need to sign the death certificates.


If you're unvaccinated, you died of COVID. If you're vaccinated, you died of heart failure, etc. I believe the statistics on the massive declines in other causes of death will be mind numbing when they catch up.


There are a lot of checklists when it comes to signing off what killed somebody. I'll try and find a link from another forum where a doctor is addressing this and describing how it's very unlikely that there is malpractice on the large scale that you're suggesting.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Ok, but I note that you're not saying that the government has fabricated numbers. Thing is, it's actually doctors that need to sign the death certificates.




There are a lot of checklists when it comes to signing off what killed somebody. I'll try and find a link from another forum where a doctor is addressing this and describing how it's very unlikely that there is malpractice on the large scale that you're suggesting.

They are financially compensated by the government for covid cases, so everyone has covid

[lost in melb.]

I've worked, not in the hospital system, but adjacent to the hospital system in the US and quite frankly, doctors and specialists psychologists such as myself are far less corruptible than you might think, especially in a hospital. Our professions are highly regulated (doctors even more so), we earn good money and we don't easily kowtow to admin bullying.

I know I'm wasting my time here, but from a doctor's mouth himself this explains exactly why fake Covid deaths is a clever political ploy, but in reality simply false:


The CARES act did provide a 20% bump in fees for Covid-19 cases, which is what made Trump comment that "doctors are so smart, they fake the numbers to make more money." Which is one of his big lies, for political purposes... ignoring a number of details on this.

One, these funds dried out pretty fast. Two, the funds were supposed to address the idea that statistically speaking, in a community that had x cases of Covid-19 deaths under Medicare/Medicaid/Private Insurance coverage, there would be an x + 20% bump in the real number of cases, due to the statistically likely additional number of uninsured patients and illegal aliens. So, hospitals were forced to deliver very expensive care (ICU, ventilators) for which they weren't being reimbursed. You don't want your small town hospital to go belly up in the middle of a freaking pandemic, right? So Medicare gave these hospitals a little bump to keep them solvent. But the increase in reimbursement was still insufficient; hospitals LOST money due to the pandemic, instead of making money from it like Trump accused us (as usual in his lies, without an ounce of evidence). The bulk of profits in a hospital comes from scheduled surgeries. These were postponed/cancelled because of the pandemic.

Other than this Medicare bump, billing private insurance for care is done by procedure, not by diagnosis. You bill for this or that IV medication you use, hours of ventilator use, etc., you don't see in an itemized bill a diagnosis; what you see is how many units of saline were used, how many doses of medications, etc. For this kind of billing, what is ultimately written on the death certificate makes no difference.

Back to how dangerous it is to fake it, if a physician/hospital intentionally fakes a diagnosis to send a higher bill to Medicare, that's a federal felony that can result in lost license, prison time, and loss of CMS accreditation (Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services). If a hospital loses CMS accreditation, bye-bye business model. The hospital will close down. So you can imagine that hospital administrators won't want that. An individual doctor who is found to have committed fraud against CMS also is lifetime-banned from earning CMS funds for care delivered so even if the doctor kept his license, his ability to be employed would be severely curtailed (no hospital wants someone who can't sign for CMS reimbursement).

Hospital care is ultra-regulated, scrutinized, and audited by a number of federal and state entities including CMS. Cases of fraud usually *are* caught. You know, if some doctor routinely engages in fraudulent behavior, some outraged nurse will report it to the hospital's Risk Department (maybe anonymously). Also, hospitals have internal auditing and death conferences to verify if the care they are providing remains within the standards of care, because hospitals don't want to be sued, and don't want the State Medical Board and the regulatory agencies to consider them sub-standard.

So, it's not so easy to hide the fact that one might be writing fake death certificates to fraudulently list the cause of death as Covid-19 when it isn't, given that in a death conference the chart will be read by the administrators and the sequence of events leading to the death will be known, so a fake death certificate will stand up like an eyesore. If a doctor engages in this kind of practice, the most likely outcome is that the Risk Department will recommend to the administration that the doctor needs to be fired, the records need to be rectified, and any bump earned from Medicare from that case's care needs to be returned to Medicare because they don't want to risk a loss of CMS accreditation.

Finally, there aren't many business models in which the doctor him/herself would earn any additional moneys from faking a death certificate. First of all, most hospitalists earn a fixed salary, regardless of how many patients they see and what the ultimate diagnoses are for those patients. Second, bumps in payment due to a Covid-19 death go to the hospital, not to the physician. So what exactly is the incentive for the physician to fake it, risking a federal felony charge, risking loss of employment, license, and freedom, for no additional money??? And given that the individual physician has no incentive to do that, if the hospital wanted to fake it (again, no chance of that because they fear the loss of CMS accreditation), an administrator would need to issue an order for the physician to fake death certificates. How many administrators would want to risk issuing such a fraudulent order, given that next, the doctor might file a complaint to the State Medical Board that he/she is being pressured to commit fraud???

You know, you hear from the Internet anecdotes like "My wife's hairdresser's cousin's dog walker has a friend who works as EMS and he knows for a fact that a patient who died of a shotgun wound and happened to be Covid-19 positive was given a death certificate saying that he died of Covid-19." Hmmm, yeah, right. First of all, as if an EMS technician even got any close to a death certificate... Second, these stupid anecdotes prove nothing, and are just a political talking point used by those who want to discredit the pandemic as a hoax and just a little flu; not to forget, like I said, that any such claim is countered by the fact that the Excess Death ultra-reliable stats provide crystal-clear evidence that the deaths are not being overcounted.

Make no mistake, Covid-19 kills, and kills a lot. As of now, 648,141 people. We're getting close to the 670,000 estimated to have died in the US in 1918-19 of the "Spanish" flu. Soon enough, Covid-19 will become the biggest infectious disease outbreak killer in the history of this country... strange how a hoax is so lethal, isn't it?

Anyway, for a while I entertained the notion that I'd vote to re-elect Trump. His mismanagement of the pandemic turned me off, and I remember that when I saw a clip of one of his rallies accusing us of being so smart that we faked Covid-19 deaths to make more money, I said, "that's it; I'm not voting for this clown." I was pretty angry at the accusation.....