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Teh One Who Knocks
12-20-2021, 12:06 PM
By Lindsay Kornick | Fox News


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Some liberal media commentators predicted Sunday that West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin’s vote against President Biden’s Build Back Better plan could very well spell the end of democracy.

Manchin announced on "Fox News Sunday" that he will be a definitive "no" on voting for the BBB plan after lengthy debate.

"I’ve always said this, Bret: if I can’t go home and explain to the people of West Virginia, I can’t vote for it," Manchin told guest host Bret Baier. "And I cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation. I just can’t. I’ve tried everything humanly possible. I can’t get there."

He later answered "This is a no on this piece of legislation. I have tried everything I know to do."

Liberal media and progressive politicians immediately attacked Manchin for his position, including his colleague Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., who accused Manchin of being beholden to pharmaceutical companies. Others called the decision "devastating," while ABC’s "This Week" panel showed visual disappointment at the news.

However, there were also several consistent predictions that Manchin’s decision could herald the end of democracy as they knew it.

MSNBC’s Mehdi Hasan tweeted out "What’s worse - that Manchin is killing the Biden legislative agenda, and perhaps the future of American democracy too, or that he wasted most of this year dragging this whole thing out to do it *and* wasted half of the time that Dems control Congress and the White House."

In a largely mocked tweet, The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin wrote "If Manchin is no on both BBB and voting, Biden is done. Democracy is hanging by a thread. Hard to think of anyone more destructive."
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In an appearance on CNN’s "Reliable Sources" journalist Carl Bernstein also implied that Manchin’s vote could drastically affect American democracy in his refusal to eliminate the filibuster rule in the Senate.

"And this also goes into the question of voting rights because unless there’s something that can be done about the filibuster rule in the Senate which Manchin again has indicated he will not change, there is not going to be an effective legislative means of doing what needs to be done to guarantee American democracy through the right to vote for all Americans without being suppressed as we’re seeing now," Bernstein said.

Bernstein earlier described Manchin’s vote as a "huge setback."

"It’s a huge setback. It shows once again that the power of Sen. Manchin, which is so disproportionate to what it ought to be, and Sen. Sinema as well. But what we have here is the interests of the American people in the legislation and is going to go down defeated or not come to fruition," Bernstein said.

Others have claimed that Manchin’s vote in and of itself proves the end of democracy.

The Daily Beast’s Wajahat Ali tweeted, "Entire nation of more than 330 million hijacked & screwed by corporate greed & lobbyists who own a man whose represents a state of 1.8 million people. I hope all of this reflects the need for massive structural reform and change. In its absence we're a shell of a democracy."

MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell commented that "A ‘healthy democracy’ would not have a Senate with 2 per state. (Or an Electoral College.)"
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Reactions to Manchin’s vote matched the treatment he had been receiving for his disagreement with Biden and the more progressive members of the Democratic Party.

Griffin
12-20-2021, 12:59 PM
The left keeps howling about the end of democracy when they know damn well they are the ones killing it.

Teh One Who Knocks
12-20-2021, 01:01 PM
The left keeps howling about the end of democracy when they know damn well they are the ones killing it.

They don't even know what the word democracy means. They're whining that just because the 49 senators want this boondoggle, that means it should pass. They are blaming this all on Manchin but they seem to forget the fact that there are 50 other freaking senators against the bill as well. Pretty sure this is exactly how democracy works.

Teh One Who Knocks
12-20-2021, 01:47 PM
By Virginia Kruta - The Daily Wire


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White House press secretary Jen Psaki issued a statement Sunday accusing Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) of reversing his position and breaching commitments made to President Joe Biden when he said on “Fox News Sunday” that he could not move forward with the Build Back Better Act.

Citing inflation, which he said was clearly not transitory and impacting West Virginians on many levels, Manchin had told Fox News anchor Bret Baier just hours earlier that he was a definite “no” on the president’s signature legislation — the behemoth spending package that has been pitting Democrats against each other for months.

Psaki argued in her statement that Manchin’s comments were “at odds” with what he had told President Biden and said they represented “a breach of his commitments” with regard to continuing negotiations.
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Psaki’s statement reads, in part:


Senator Manchin’s comments this morning on FOX are at odds with his discussions this week with the President, with White House staff, and with his own public utterances. Weeks ago, Senator Manchin committed to the President, at his home in Wilmington, to support the Build Back Better framework that the President then subsequently announced. Senator Manchin pledged repeatedly to negotiate on finalizing that framework “in good faith.”

On Tuesday of this week, Senator Manchin came to the White House and submitted—to the President, in person, directly—a written outline for a Build Back Better bill that was the same size and scope as the President’s framework, and covered many of the same priorities. While that framework was missing key priorities, we believed it could lead to a compromise acceptable to all. Senator Manchin promised to continue conversations in the days ahead, and to work with us to reach that common ground. If his comments on FOX and written statement indicate an end to that effort, they represent a sudden and inexplicable reversal in his position, and a breach of his commitments to the President and the Senator’s colleagues in the House and Senate.

Psaki went on to argue, as the White House has in the past, that the Build Back Better Act was “completely paid for” and would therefore not contribute to the deficit or to inflation.

She went on to say that the White House would continued to pressure Manchin to change his position, adding, “Just as Senator Manchin reversed his position on Build Back Better this morning, we will continue to press him to see if he will reverse his position yet again, to honor his prior commitments and be true to his word.”

“In the meantime, Senator Manchin will have to explain to those families paying $1,000 a month for insulin why they need to keep paying that, instead of $35 for that vital medicine,” Psaki continued. “He will have to explain to the nearly two million women who would get the affordable day care they need to return to work why he opposes a plan to get them the help they need. Maybe Senator Manchin can explain to the millions of children who have been lifted out of poverty, in part due to the Child Tax Credit, why he wants to end a program that is helping achieve this milestone—we cannot.”

“The fight for Build Back Better is too important to give up. We will find a way to move forward next year,” Psaki concluded.

Teh One Who Knocks
12-20-2021, 01:48 PM
Pretty sure that his commitment is to his constituents in West Virginia, not to the democrat party. Isn't that the whole idea about electing officials? :rolleyes:

lost in melb.
12-20-2021, 03:54 PM
The cynic in me thinks wv was getting fuckall from this. Too many rolling hills and not enough infrastructure.

DemonGeminiX
12-20-2021, 03:56 PM
The cynic in me thinks wv was getting fuckall from this. Too many rolling hills and not enough infrastructure.

Or maybe Manchin actually has a brain and uses it from time to time.

deebakes
12-21-2021, 12:57 AM
hope this starts a trend that people don't just go with the 'company line' regardless of which side of it you are on

deebakes
12-21-2021, 12:58 AM
there should be much more in the middle than on the ends of the bell curve

lost in melb.
12-21-2021, 02:37 AM
Or maybe Manchin actually has a brain and uses it from time to time.

I guess if there was an article with some actual detail that would be helpful too.

perrhaps
12-21-2021, 10:31 AM
They don't even know what the word democracy means. They're whining that just because the 49 senators want this boondoggle, that means it should pass. They are blaming this all on Manchin but they seem to forget the fact that there are 50 other freaking senators against the bill as well. Pretty sure this is exactly how democracy works.

Shucks. Beat me to it.