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Teh One Who Knocks
12-23-2021, 12:07 PM
By Brad Dress - The Hill


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Dr. Anthony Fauci said large gatherings this holiday season are not safe, even for those fully vaccinated with a booster shot.

During a White House COVID-19 task force news briefing on Wednesday, the head of the National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases urged Americans to "stay away" from large gatherings, which he defined as 30 to 50 people.

"Those are the kind of functions — in the context of COVID, and particularly in the context of omicron — that you do not want to go to," Fauci said.

Fauci called "parties" and larger gatherings a "higher risk," but said it would be safe for fully vaccinated individuals, who are boosted, to attend smaller family gatherings.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in its "holiday tip" list, recommends avoiding holiday gatherings altogether only if a person has symptoms or is sick.

Adults over the age of 18, who got their last vaccine shot at least six months ago, are eligible for a booster shot from Moderna, while anyone aged 16 or older can get the Pfizer booster shot. Adults who got a Johnson & Johnson vaccine can get a booster after two months.

More than 60 million Americans have already received their booster shots, including 62 percent of eligible seniors, according to the White House.

Speaking Tuesday, President Biden said he would not shut the country down again, even with the omicron variant spreading rapidly in the U.S. and accounting for 73 percent of all new confirmed infections last week.

The U.S., which has seen more than 800,000 deaths related to COVID-19, is grappling with high infection rates and skyrocketing hospitalizations in a number of states, including New York, which set records this week for daily confirmed positive cases.

Teh One Who Knocks
12-23-2021, 12:07 PM
Stoke that fear and maintain that control :tup:

Griffin
12-23-2021, 12:23 PM
Idiocy, pure idiocy.

lost in melb.
12-23-2021, 02:07 PM
He is simply providing advice, and probably sound advice. You've got a burgeoning outbreak at the moment, a variant that is still slightly unknown and 30% of the population is not vaccinated. Maybe it's not a good time to be mingling in huge crowds.

Here we go again. Sigh

:coat:

Teh One Who Knocks
12-23-2021, 02:13 PM
You've got a burgeoning outbreak at the moment....

By a variant that shows it to be nothing worse than a mild to bad cold.

lost in melb.
12-23-2021, 02:27 PM
By a variant that shows it to be nothing worse than a mild to bad cold.

Early data shows the risk of hospitalization is between 1/3 and 2/3 less than Delta. Hardly a bad cold.

Omicron is 10 times more likely to infect people who’ve already had COVID-19 than Delta.

Teh One Who Knocks
12-23-2021, 02:39 PM
Early data shows the risk of hospitalization is between 1/3 and 2/3 less than Delta. Hardly a bad cold.

Omicron is 10 times more likely to infect people who’ve already had COVID-19 than Delta.

Untrue.


Noach said anecdotal evidence gathered from doctors treating omicron patients outside hospitals showed a high reinfection rate and multiple breakthrough infections in vaccinated people that emerge after a short incubation period of three to four days.

Most infections are described as mild, with recoveries usually within three days, he said. The most common early symptom reported is a scratchy throat, followed by nasal congestion, a dry cough and myalgia, or aches, manifesting in lower back pain.

He said private hospitals reported that most patients were unvaccinated and many were initially admitted for non-covid-related illnesses. There was less evidence of respiratory infections in omicron-infected patients, compared with the other variants, with fewer patients requiring oxygen, Noach added.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/14/south-africa-omicron-coronavirus/

lost in melb.
12-23-2021, 02:46 PM
Untrue.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/14/south-africa-omicron-coronavirus/

Ok, but most cases of Covid are mild as well.

We agree it's less severe. However Covid can also make people randomly very sick, including hospitalization, ICU and death. There are also documented long-term effects.

I think it's too early to rule out Omicron as an insignificant disease like a "bad cold"