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Teh One Who Knocks
02-01-2022, 12:14 PM
By Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News


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The hosts of "CBS Mornings" piled on podcast star Joe Rogan, who is the target of liberals in media and entertainment to be deplatformed by Spotify.

Spotify has been facing growing pressure to remove Rogan from its service over allegations that his popular show has been peddling COVID "misinformation," causing musicians like Neil Young and Joni Mitchell to pull their music from the streaming giant.

While covering "Spotify's misinformation fight," CBS host Tony Dokoupil acknowledged "these musicians are not going to win this battle," but appeared to express solidarity with them.

"You have a First Amendment right to say what you want. You don't have a First Amendment right to appear on a platform as large as Spotify. That's the issue," Dokoupil said. "Joe Rogan is correct that the medical world gets stuff wrong, but there's a process by which the medical world corrects itself, and that process is not interviewing guys on the fringe of the medical world on your massive platform. That's called irresponsible. It’s not censorship."

"Editors are not censors, they're ensuring quality," Dokoupil added.
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Co-host Gayle King then chimed in, suggesting the solution to combat Rogan isn't simply to just "turn it off."

"The thing is, a lot of people do listen to it, and they're getting false, incorrect information and that's why it seems so dangerous," King said.

"He has a huge reach. He has a huge reach," co-host Nate Burleson emphasized.

"And it matters," Dokoupil said, later adding, "it's a life or death issue. That’s why it’s in a special category."

Spotify announced that it will begin to put a disclaimer at the beginning of Rogan’s show when he discusses COVID.

Rogan himself addressed the uproar thanking Spotify for its support and expressing approval of the added disclaimer to his podcast.

He also vowed to invite guests to balance out the controversial COVID views that are said by others on the podcast.

Spotify previously struck a whopping $100 million deal for the exclusive rights to "The Joe Rogan Experience."

DemonGeminiX
02-01-2022, 02:11 PM
:wah:

PorkChopSandwiches
02-01-2022, 05:19 PM
:honkhonk:

Muddy
02-01-2022, 06:05 PM
If Joe Rogan is killing people then maybe we need a Darwinian culling. What do people not understand about Joe Rogan not being an M.D..?

PorkChopSandwiches
02-01-2022, 06:09 PM
But he has an audience and says things we dont like. If that is the basis, I would like CNN taken off the air

Muddy
02-01-2022, 06:10 PM
But he has an audience and says things we dont like. If that is the basis, I would like CNN taken off the air

But CNN only speaks the truth... /s

Teh One Who Knocks
02-01-2022, 06:14 PM
But CNN only speaks the truth... /s

I saw the clip where Rogan tore CNN's "expert" doctor Sanjay Gupta a new one for the lies that CNN was telling about Rogan. It was awesome. But then Gupta backtracked on all of it when he went back on CNN.

PorkChopSandwiches
02-01-2022, 06:18 PM
But CNN only speaks the truth... /s

Thats my point

Teh One Who Knocks
02-01-2022, 06:23 PM
By Virginia Kruta - The Daily Wire


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Joy Behar expressed her frustrations during Monday’s broadcast of “The View” on ABC, complaining that not enough high-profile musicians or podcasters had removed their own work from Spotify over the platform’s failure to dump podcast juggernaut Joe Rogan.

Behar and her cohosts — Whoopi Goldberg, Sara Haines, Sunny Hostin, and Ana Navarro — responded to the news that Joni Mitchell had joined musician Neil Young in pulling her music from Spotify over claims that Rogan was promoting “COVID misinformation,” and Behar said that she would have liked to see more artists follow suit.

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Hostin argued that Spotify had effectively been forced to “do the right thing,” saying that it was a step in the right direction for the platform to preface podcasts like Rogan’s with a disclaimer about what kind of information listeners might be exposed to when they tuned in to his show.

“He is peddling misinformation. Thank you to Spotify for being a little bit more transparent about your policies, about the consequences to violating those policies and the disclaimer. I don’t think that is censorship at all,” Hostin said, claiming that the information Rogan allowed on his show “could lead to the death of people.”

“I am always interested in having good corporate citizens. I think they lost $2 billion in market value after Neil Young pulled his music. Is this more about they want to do the right thing? I think they were forced to do the right thing,” she added.

“Last year Spotify reviewed an episode where he advised 21-year-olds not to get vaccinated,” Behar said, noting that the platform had allowed that episode to remain on the platform. “How is it in their guidelines to tell people to not get vaccinated?”

Navarro cut in then, saying that the people who were to be praised were the people who “tuned off” Spotify in the wake of the controversy — like Mitchell and Young — because they were the ones driving the conversation. But she also said that Rogan was to be commended because he had apologized and said that he could do better in the future.

“Joe Rogan, you know, I am so used to seeing these people who lie and misinform and spread conspiracy theories double down instead of apologize. Even though he is not my cup of tea, I don’t listen to him, I don’t agree with him, I found it refreshing to hear the words ‘I’m sorry’ come out of his mouth,” she said.

Haines agreed, adding, “I thought his apology was refreshing because he said, ‘I can do better.’ He told us about the Spotify disclaimers. He is going to do better to have opposing views right after another. I guess he does his own scheduling and he said, ‘I can do better at that. I can do better at preparing.’ He wings it because he is one of the first podcasts that came on and just was a bunch of friends talking and that was enough to make a good podcast. I appreciated that he said, ‘I was wrong, I see the concern, I appreciate the pushback and I am going to do this.’ We don’t see that enough.”

Behar jumped in then, saying that she was disappointed to see such a small number of artists who were willing to “put their money where their mouth is.”

“I was disappointed, as contrary to you, I was disappointed that more musicians and singers, etc., didn’t pull out. They are on twitter all the time trashing people who don’t get vaccinated and then they keep their music there. This would have been a good opportunity to show what you believe in. And I didn’t see it. I only saw two people in the ’60s and ’70s. Let’s see some young people do it. Let’s see Taylor and those guys take a stand,” she said.

PorkChopSandwiches
02-01-2022, 06:49 PM
I love these artist who's core fan base doesn't even know how to use spotify think they will sway the decision

PorkChopSandwiches
02-01-2022, 06:53 PM
“I am always interested in having good corporate citizens. I think they lost $2 billion in market value after Neil Young pulled his music. Is this more about they want to do the right thing? I think they were forced to do the right thing,” she added.


What an idiot....2 billion...
On the 24th the stock was already trending down and hit 193, today its at 200... go eat a bag a dick Joy

Teh One Who Knocks
02-01-2022, 06:57 PM
What an idiot....2 billion...
On the 24th the stock was already trending down and hit 193, today its at 200... go eat a bag a dick Joy

Exactly, the entire market has been going down all month. Spotify's value has absolutely nothing to do with Neil Young. They're cherry picking.

PorkChopSandwiches
02-01-2022, 07:23 PM
Turns our Neill Young and Joni doesn't even own the rights to their music

Muddy
02-01-2022, 07:33 PM
Turns our Neill Young and Joni doesn't even own the rights to their music

What a bunch of fkn posers...

Teh One Who Knocks
02-02-2022, 11:36 AM
By Brian Flood | Fox News


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Many liberal pundits were left unsatisfied when podcasting giant Joe Rogan broke his silence on Sunday after being accused show of peddling misinformation about COVID-19 that led to a public rebuke.

"I mean I don't know that he can be reformed," ABC’s "The View" co-host Joy Behar said.

Spotify has been facing growing pressure to remove Rogan from its service over allegations that his popular show has been peddling COVID "misinformation," causing musicians like Neil Young and Joni Mitchell to pull their music from the streaming giant.

Rogan spoke about the challenges of preparing for his shows that are unscripted and free-flowing. He defended his interviews with Dr. Peter McCullough, a cardiologist, and Dr. Robert Malone, an infectious disease specialist, that resulted in some criticism and apparently led to Young's decision to call on his songs being removed from the platform. He also challenged the word "misinformation" given that so much is still being learned about COVID-19.

Spotify announced that it will begin to put a disclaimer at the beginning of Rogan’s show when he discusses COVID. Rogan thanked Spotify for its support and expressed approval of the added disclaimer to his podcast and vowed to invite guests to balance out the controversial COVID views that are said by others on his platform. However, the response to critics wasn’t enough for many on the left.

Left-wing CNN pundit Brian Stelter quickly complained that Americans trust Rogan more than "newsroom like CNN" that "work hard" to verifying COVID information.

"Because figures like Rogan are trusted by people that don’t trust real newsrooms, we have a tension, a problem, that’s much bigger than Spotify. Much bigger than any single platform," Stelter said.

ABC’s Behar also said she was "disappointed" that more musicians and singers didn't pull their content from Spotify in protest of Rogan.

"This would have been a good opportunity to show what you believe in, and I didn't see it. I only saw two people from the 60s and 70s. Let's see some young people do it. Let's see Taylor and those guys take a stand," Behar said, appearing to reference Taylor Swift.

The far-left Daily Beast published a story headlined, "Joe Rogan: Moron or... Moron?"
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The hosts of "CBS Mornings" piled on Rogan as host Tony Dokoupil acknowledged "these musicians are not going to win this battle," but appeared to express solidarity with them.

"You have a First Amendment right to say what you want. You don't have a First Amendment right to appear on a platform as large as Spotify. That's the issue," Dokoupil said. "Joe Rogan is correct that the medical world gets stuff wrong, but there's a process by which the medical world corrects itself, and that process is not interviewing guys on the fringe of the medical world on your massive platform. That's called irresponsible. It’s not censorship."

"Editors are not censors, they're ensuring quality," Dokoupil added.

Co-host Gayle King then chimed in, suggesting the solution to combat Rogan isn't simply to just "turn it off."

"The thing is, a lot of people do listen to it, and they're getting false, incorrect information and that's why it seems so dangerous," King said.

"He has a huge reach. He has a huge reach," co-host Nate Burleson emphasized.

"And it matters," Dokoupil said, later adding, "it's a life or death issue. That’s why it’s in a special category."
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The Today in Tabs newsletter declared that Rogan sells "bulls—t" and accused him of spouting "COVID misinformation" in his video.

Journalist Glenn Greenwald, a frequent critic of corporate press, blasted "smug media figures" who continue to condemn Rogan.

"The way so many smug media figures are uniting in condescending denunciation of Joe Rogan serves the same purpose as when they do it toward Trump: it's to whitewashes all the radical flaws in establishment journalism by letting them scorn someone to whom they all feel superior," he tweeted.

DemonGeminiX
02-02-2022, 11:53 AM
Rogan should get all of his MMA buddies together and go beat all of these haters up.

Teh One Who Knocks
02-04-2022, 01:14 PM
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DemonGeminiX
02-04-2022, 02:10 PM
If she wasn't a Democrat and for gun control, I'd be madly in love with her and begging her to run for office again.

Pony
02-04-2022, 03:01 PM
If she wasn't a Democrat and for gun control, I'd be madly in love with her and begging her to run for office again.

We definitely would have been much better off than we are now.

Teh One Who Knocks
02-04-2022, 04:03 PM
By Ryan Saavedra - The Daily Wire


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Democrats Barack and Michelle Obama are reportedly considering leaving Spotify as the streaming giant continues to face left-wing backlash over top podcast host Joe Rogan.

Industry sources told Insider that the Obamas’ decision to look around comes as their three-year Spotify deal is coming up for renewal.

The Obama’s team at Higher Ground is “frustrated with the slow pace of development at Spotify, where it can be hard to get a greenlight,” the report said. “One source said Higher Ground’s pitches don’t always align with the platform’s focus on shows that can reach a wide audience.”

The report said that other heavy hitters like Amazon and Apple could compete for the Obama’s business because they have upped their investments in podcasts.

The news comes as Spotify deals with left-wing-generated backlash to Rogan for allegedly promoting “misinformation” on his show, although critics are rarely able to give specific examples.

Vanity Fair reported:


With his outsize media footprint, no-f***s-given hosting style, and an estimated 11 million listeners per episode, Rogan is, like it or not, the face of Spotify’s podcasting play. It’s a face that comes with voluble “anti-woke” bona fides; a hyper-macho sensibility somewhere between MAGA and Bernie Bro; and, most problematically, a warm embrace of vaccine skepticism. But all of that is part of the appeal for Rogan’s loyal army of superfans, many of them young and male, which is what makes him so valuable to a company whose success depends on attracting large numbers of engaged paying subscribers. In the words of one seasoned audio industry insider, having Joe Rogan “is like dropping a Taylor Swift album every day. Spotify needs him way more than he needs Spotify.” (Spotify didn’t have a comment for this story.)

The Joe Rogan Experience, which debuted in the earlier and comparatively quaint podcasting era of 2009, towers over its Spotify peers. Part of that has to do with the reality that the company’s other big-ticket deals just simply haven’t gained the same traction. Harry and Meghan have produced a lone 33-minute holiday special since inking a reported $25 million Spotify contract in December 2020. (They currently don’t have anything else in development with Spotify, someone familiar with the matter confirmed.) The Obamas, whose 2019 deal was rumored to be in the same general ballpark, have produced a few compelling shows, including one podcast hosted by Michelle Obama and another in which Barack Obama teamed up with Bruce Springsteen. But the buzz around these efforts has paled in comparison to the couples’ best-selling memoirs, or even the award-winning features they’ve produced for a separate content deal they have with Netflix. Moreover, informed sources told me the Obamas’ production company, Higher Ground, has been frustrated with Spotify at times, finding it difficult to get additional shows off the ground. I’m told the Obamas are more interested in lifting young new voices than carrying shows themselves, and that this focus hasn’t always aligned with Spotify’s. (Another source said that Spotify and Higher Ground are in active production on new shows in this vein.) As for the other offerings under the Spotify banner, chances are you haven’t heard of them. But you almost certainly hear about Joe Rogan every time something crazy is said on his show.

Spotify CEO Daniel Ek reportedly told employees on Wednesday that the platform does not have editorial discretion over Rogan’s #1-rated podcast, “The Joe Rogan Experience,” following an attempt from leftists to get Rogan booted off the platform.

Spotify announced on Sunday that it was publishing its content policy and that it would create a coronavirus information hub, which The Wall Street Journal reported came in response to backlash the company has faced from leftists over Rogan.

The announcement from Ek came after musician Neil Young complained about claims that Rogan had made on “The Joe Rogan Experience” about the pandemic and had his music removed from the platform. A couple of other musicians also had their music pulled down over the issue.

“We have had rules in place for many years but admittedly, we haven’t been transparent around the policies that guide our content more broadly. This, in turn, led to questions around their application to serious issues including COVID-19,” CEO Daniel Ek wrote on Sunday. “Based on the feedback over the last several weeks, it’s become clear to me that we have an obligation to do more to provide balance and access to widely-accepted information from the medical and scientific communities guiding us through this unprecedented time. These issues are incredibly complex.”

Democrat President Joe Biden’s administration has also pushed for social media companies to take action against Rogan as Surgeon General Vivek Murthy advocated for during an MSNBC appearance last week.

DemonGeminiX
02-04-2022, 04:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrEwCa8nSA

Muddy
02-04-2022, 05:18 PM
If she wasn't a Democrat and for gun control, I'd be madly in love with her and begging her to run for office again.

I hear she's a squirter...

lost in melb.
02-04-2022, 05:38 PM
She's mine, guys.

DemonGeminiX
02-04-2022, 11:00 PM
She's mine, guys.

:hand:

No. Donkey face is yours.

PorkChopSandwiches
02-08-2022, 06:48 PM
By Ryan Saavedra - The Daily Wire


https://i.imgur.com/I5tKqIUl.jpg

Democrats Barack and Michelle Obama are reportedly considering leaving Spotify as the streaming giant continues to face left-wing backlash over top podcast host Joe Rogan.

Industry sources told Insider that the Obamas’ decision to look around comes as their three-year Spotify deal is coming up for renewal.

The Obama’s team at Higher Ground is “frustrated with the slow pace of development at Spotify, where it can be hard to get a greenlight,” the report said. “One source said Higher Ground’s pitches don’t always align with the platform’s focus on shows that can reach a wide audience.”

The report said that other heavy hitters like Amazon and Apple could compete for the Obama’s business because they have upped their investments in podcasts.

The news comes as Spotify deals with left-wing-generated backlash to Rogan for allegedly promoting “misinformation” on his show, although critics are rarely able to give specific examples.

Vanity Fair reported:


With his outsize media footprint, no-f***s-given hosting style, and an estimated 11 million listeners per episode, Rogan is, like it or not, the face of Spotify’s podcasting play. It’s a face that comes with voluble “anti-woke” bona fides; a hyper-macho sensibility somewhere between MAGA and Bernie Bro; and, most problematically, a warm embrace of vaccine skepticism. But all of that is part of the appeal for Rogan’s loyal army of superfans, many of them young and male, which is what makes him so valuable to a company whose success depends on attracting large numbers of engaged paying subscribers. In the words of one seasoned audio industry insider, having Joe Rogan “is like dropping a Taylor Swift album every day. Spotify needs him way more than he needs Spotify.” (Spotify didn’t have a comment for this story.)

The Joe Rogan Experience, which debuted in the earlier and comparatively quaint podcasting era of 2009, towers over its Spotify peers. Part of that has to do with the reality that the company’s other big-ticket deals just simply haven’t gained the same traction. Harry and Meghan have produced a lone 33-minute holiday special since inking a reported $25 million Spotify contract in December 2020. (They currently don’t have anything else in development with Spotify, someone familiar with the matter confirmed.) The Obamas, whose 2019 deal was rumored to be in the same general ballpark, have produced a few compelling shows, including one podcast hosted by Michelle Obama and another in which Barack Obama teamed up with Bruce Springsteen. But the buzz around these efforts has paled in comparison to the couples’ best-selling memoirs, or even the award-winning features they’ve produced for a separate content deal they have with Netflix. Moreover, informed sources told me the Obamas’ production company, Higher Ground, has been frustrated with Spotify at times, finding it difficult to get additional shows off the ground. I’m told the Obamas are more interested in lifting young new voices than carrying shows themselves, and that this focus hasn’t always aligned with Spotify’s. (Another source said that Spotify and Higher Ground are in active production on new shows in this vein.) As for the other offerings under the Spotify banner, chances are you haven’t heard of them. But you almost certainly hear about Joe Rogan every time something crazy is said on his show.

Spotify CEO Daniel Ek reportedly told employees on Wednesday that the platform does not have editorial discretion over Rogan’s #1-rated podcast, “The Joe Rogan Experience,” following an attempt from leftists to get Rogan booted off the platform.

Spotify announced on Sunday that it was publishing its content policy and that it would create a coronavirus information hub, which The Wall Street Journal reported came in response to backlash the company has faced from leftists over Rogan.

The announcement from Ek came after musician Neil Young complained about claims that Rogan had made on “The Joe Rogan Experience” about the pandemic and had his music removed from the platform. A couple of other musicians also had their music pulled down over the issue.

“We have had rules in place for many years but admittedly, we haven’t been transparent around the policies that guide our content more broadly. This, in turn, led to questions around their application to serious issues including COVID-19,” CEO Daniel Ek wrote on Sunday. “Based on the feedback over the last several weeks, it’s become clear to me that we have an obligation to do more to provide balance and access to widely-accepted information from the medical and scientific communities guiding us through this unprecedented time. These issues are incredibly complex.”

Democrat President Joe Biden’s administration has also pushed for social media companies to take action against Rogan as Surgeon General Vivek Murthy advocated for during an MSNBC appearance last week.


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lost in melb.
02-11-2022, 04:32 PM
:hand:

No. Donkey face is yours.

:wtf::liar: