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AntZ
07-28-2011, 10:41 PM
New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

By James Taylor | Forbes




Forbes – NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.

"The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show," Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release. "There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans."

In addition to finding that far less heat is being trapped than alarmist computer models have predicted, the NASA satellite data show the atmosphere begins shedding heat into space long before United Nations computer models predicted.

The new findings are extremely important and should dramatically alter the global warming debate.

Scientists on all sides of the global warming debate are in general agreement about how much heat is being directly trapped by human emissions of carbon dioxide (the answer is "not much"). However, the single most important issue in the global warming debate is whether carbon dioxide emissions will indirectly trap far more heat by causing large increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds. Alarmist computer models assume human carbon dioxide emissions indirectly cause substantial increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds (each of which are very effective at trapping heat), but real-world data have long shown that carbon dioxide emissions are not causing as much atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds as the alarmist computer models have predicted.

The new NASA Terra satellite data are consistent with long-term NOAA and NASA data indicating atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds are not increasing in the manner predicted by alarmist computer models. The Terra satellite data also support data collected by NASA's ERBS satellite showing far more longwave radiation (and thus, heat) escaped into space between 1985 and 1999 than alarmist computer models had predicted. Together, the NASA ERBS and Terra satellite data show that for 25 years and counting, carbon dioxide emissions have directly and indirectly trapped far less heat than alarmist computer models have predicted.

In short, the central premise of alarmist global warming theory is that carbon dioxide emissions should be directly and indirectly trapping a certain amount of heat in the earth's atmosphere and preventing it from escaping into space. Real-world measurements, however, show far less heat is being trapped in the earth's atmosphere than the alarmist computer models predict, and far more heat is escaping into space than the alarmist computer models predict.

When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a "huge discrepancy" between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are.


http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html

KevinD
07-29-2011, 12:47 AM
Now we know why the gubment shut NASA down....

deebakes
07-29-2011, 01:13 AM
:wank:

FBD
07-29-2011, 04:06 AM
:wank:

Sir, its Mega Maid! She's been switched from suck to blow!

Godfather
07-29-2011, 05:03 AM
Cool! I hope they're right

It still seems to be just one of a list of growing concerns we hear about. Desertification, the ocean is fucked (floating garbage, overfishing), soil erosion, shortening fresh water supply.... some are concepts that I know a few members here hate but I don't think it's too anthropomorphic to say we're hurting the planet badly.

AntZ
07-29-2011, 09:42 AM
Cool! I hope they're right

It still seems to be just one of a list of growing concerns we hear about. Desertification, the ocean is fucked (floating garbage, overfishing), soil erosion, shortening fresh water supply.... some are concepts that I know a few members here hate but I don't think it's too anthropomorphic to say we're hurting the planet badly.


If you wanted to see this planet in a sad state, you should have been around in the 60's and 70's! Cities were covered with a black or brown haze, toxins and poisons flowed untreated into all bodies of water, and acid rain fell across the north east!

Basically what China is today!

RBP
07-29-2011, 03:09 PM
Cool! I hope they're right

It still seems to be just one of a list of growing concerns we hear about. Desertification, the ocean is fucked (floating garbage, overfishing), soil erosion, shortening fresh water supply.... some are concepts that I know a few members here hate but I don't think it's too anthropomorphic to say we're hurting the planet badly.

an·thro·po·mor·phic
   [an-thruh-puh-mawr-fik] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
ascribing human form or attributes to a being or thing not human, especially to a deity.
2.
resembling or made to resemble a human form: an anthropomorphic carving.

Arkady Renko
07-29-2011, 03:16 PM
an·thro·po·mor·phic
   [an-thruh-puh-mawr-fik] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
ascribing human form or attributes to a being or thing not human, especially to a deity.
2.
resembling or made to resemble a human form: an anthropomorphic carving.

I think what he meant to say was misanthropic(al), at least that would make some sense in the context.

PorkChopSandwiches
07-29-2011, 03:35 PM
:wank:

Sir, its Mega Maid! She's been switched from suck to blow!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jyNxWt2jSaE/TYfVnFp_BBI/AAAAAAAANEs/-1unwVKmS0Q/s1600/megamaid-spaceballs.jpg

Muddy
07-29-2011, 03:37 PM
You educated muther funkers, can go *&%! yourselves!!!! :lol:

Muddy
07-29-2011, 03:37 PM
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0901/mega-maid-demotivational-poster-1232129468.jpg

hot stinka

Arkady Renko
07-29-2011, 03:44 PM
You educated muther funkers, can go *&%! yourselves!!!! :lol:

you're so antagonistic most of the time...:mrgreen:

Godfather
07-29-2011, 03:51 PM
an·thro·po·mor·phic
   [an-thruh-puh-mawr-fik] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
ascribing human form or attributes to a being or thing not human, especially to a deity.


The term has been used for some time now in the global warming debate by some claiming we're putting a human cause (or face) on something that isn't human... though I agree it may be a stretch of the definition.

eg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV_vls6h4eY

Muddy
07-29-2011, 03:52 PM
you're so antagonistic most of the time...:mrgreen:

I'm just jealous that Godfather can use a word like that, and I cant.. :mrgreen:

Arkady Renko
07-29-2011, 04:21 PM
hit one of the various free thesaurus sites on the internet and you're up to speed in no time at all.

Godfather
07-30-2011, 02:26 AM
Nice one :)

Deepsepia
07-30-2011, 03:09 AM
If you wanted to see this planet in a sad state, you should have been around in the 60's and 70's! Cities were covered with a black or brown haze, toxins and poisons flowed untreated into all bodies of water, and acid rain fell across the north east!

And the reason our environment is cleaner today than it was then is because we listened to which people?

And passed what laws?

Those same folks who were responsible for the fact that our cities aren't covered with black haze, and that our water is safe to drink-- what is it that they're saying now?

AntZ
07-30-2011, 09:29 AM
Those same folks who were responsible for the fact that our cities aren't covered with black haze, and that our water is safe to drink-- what is it that they're saying now?

Yeah! I do remember what those "same people" were saying! They insisted that an ice age was coming! :facepalm:


http://i.imgur.com/vXeZz.gif

FBD
07-30-2011, 02:26 PM
deep, that's one thing I've been saying - there's real environmental conservation, and there is utter distraction.

air quality standards for cars are a lot different than trying to call a trace gas a bogeyman and enacting all sorts of punishment to sacrifice to the gods of environmentalism! I called this one as far back as 05 or 06, what makes people think there's some sort of lid on the planet like its freakin Druidia?

Acid Trip
08-01-2011, 04:45 PM
And the reason our environment is cleaner today than it was then is because we listened to which people?

And passed what laws?

Those same folks who were responsible for the fact that our cities aren't covered with black haze, and that our water is safe to drink-- what is it that they're saying now?

I'm confused Deep. You have always touted the science behind man made global warming. The science appears to be shaky at best. If global warming is based on real, fact checked science then wouldn't you agree that their models should be holding up to this scrutiny? How do you account for the discrepancies between the global warming models and reality?

Hal-9000
08-01-2011, 08:44 PM
Global warming is real because it's been really, really hot this summer :face: