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Teh One Who Knocks
04-05-2022, 10:47 AM
By Tyler O'Neil | Fox News


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Gov. Jared Polis, D-Colo., signed into law a bill creating a "fundamental right" to abortion, contraception, and other forms of "reproductive health-care rights," while explicitly denying any right to a fetus. The bill explicitly addresses the Supreme Court's upcoming decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, in which the Court is expected to overturn the abortion precedent in Roe v. Wade (1973).

Polis signed H.B. 22-1279, the "Reproductive Health Equity Act," which the governor said "codifies a person’s fundamental right to make reproductive health-care decisions free from government interference."

"In the State of Colorado, the serious decision to start or end a pregnancy with medical assistance will remain between a person, their doctor, and their faith," Polis added in his statement Monday.

The law states that "Access to abortion and reproductive health care is currently under attack across the nation. Impending federal court cases, including Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization,… jeopardize access to legal abortion care for tens of millions of people, particularly those living in most Southern and Midwestern states."

The law sets forth "fundamental reproductive health-care rights," creating rights for all individuals, rights for "a pregnant individual," and explicitly denying rights for the unborn.

"Every individual has a fundamental right to make decisions about the individual's reproductive health care, including the fundamental right to use or refuse contraception," the law states. "A pregnant individual has a fundamental right to continue a pregnancy and give birth or to have an abortion and to make decisions about how to exercise that right."

"A fertilized egg, embryo, or fetus does not have independent or derivative rights under the laws of this state," the law adds.

The law prohibits state and local public entities from denying, restricting, interfering with, or discriminating against a person's right to use or refuse contraception or to continue a pregnancy or to have an abortion. It also bars public entities from restricting abortion due to the individual's "potential, actual, or perceived impact on the pregnancy, the pregnancy's outcomes, or the pregnant individual's health."

Jeff Hunt, president of the Colorado think-tank the Centennial Institute, lamented Polis' signing of the bill.

"This will go down as one of the worst days in Colorado history," he wrote on Twitter. "Pro-abortionists at the Colorado capitol sealed the fate of countless lives."

"One of our legislators said her own personal story was she was born at 22 weeks," Robyn Chambers, executive director at Focus on the Family Advocacy for Children, told Fox 21 when the bill passed on a party-line vote in March. "That’s a really early term baby. She was celebrating her 50th birthday this year. And one of the comments she said was: ‘Isn’t every child deserving of a birthday?'"

Other states have also passed laws codifying abortion in case Roe gets overturned. In 2019, Gov. Andrew Cuomo, D-N.Y., signed a law codifying abortion rights and explicitly removing protections from unborn infants.

RBP
04-05-2022, 01:12 PM
Does anyone know if the bill includes any time limits? I haven't seen it anywhere?

Teh One Who Knocks
04-05-2022, 01:18 PM
Does anyone know if the bill includes any time limits? I haven't seen it anywhere?

Here's the link to the bill: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb22-1279

RBP
04-05-2022, 01:28 PM
Jesus. Zero limits as far as the bill reads. (And fuck you for writing it as "pregnant individual")

In labor, healthy baby, change your mind, kill it anyway... perfectly okay. :shock:

No, that is not okay.

The basics of Roe are correct. Protect abortion until the child is viable. After that should be no.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-05-2022, 01:30 PM
Jesus. Zero limits as far as the bill reads. (And fuck you for writing it as "pregnant individual")

In labor, healthy baby, change your mind, kill it anyway... perfectly okay. :shock:

No, that is not okay.

The basics of Roe are correct. Protect abortion until the child is viable. After that should be no.

That's how I read it too.

RBP
04-05-2022, 01:31 PM
Fucking savages

Teh One Who Knocks
04-05-2022, 01:33 PM
Fucking savages

That's what happens when the liberals flee places like California and move to Colorado. It was a gradual change over the 25 years I've lived here, but it's what this state has become. It's an embarrassment.

lost in melb.
04-06-2022, 01:49 PM
Jesus. Zero limits as far as the bill reads. (And fuck you for writing it as "pregnant individual")

In labor, healthy baby, change your mind, kill it anyway... perfectly okay. :shock:

No, that is not okay.

The basics of Roe are correct. Protect abortion until the child is viable. After that should be no.

That can't be right...

Teh One Who Knocks
04-06-2022, 02:18 PM
That can't be right...

It is 100% correct. This new law allows an abortion at ANY time during the pregnancy, including up to and including birth.

DemonGeminiX
04-06-2022, 07:24 PM
That's absolutely disgusting.

They're all murderers and groomers now. They're not even hiding it.

lost in melb.
04-07-2022, 10:26 AM
It is 100% correct. This new law allows an abortion at ANY time during the pregnancy, including up to and including birth.

In Australia it's 22 weeks. Personally I'm a little uncomfortable with this.

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I think US is 20 weeks.

It's all horrible, but I do understand the concept of abortion - up to a certain point. My personal cutoff point would be when the eyes begin to develop - about 18 weeks. Beyond that you should need to present a case and have several specialists look at it.

lost in melb.
04-07-2022, 10:29 AM
It is 100% correct. This new law allows an abortion at ANY time during the pregnancy, including up to and including birth.

Btw I still don't believe that, not how you put it. but I don't really have time to research this. I'm not saying you're a liar, but I have worked in the medical field and in hospitals a little bit in the US. Doctors are pretty respectable and evenly tempered throughout all the States. My experience.

I would like to know what happens, in practise, in the hospitals and the decision-making process.

lost in melb.
04-07-2022, 10:39 AM
I've just done some reading and the legal abortion age in Colorado is 22 weeks. That hasn't changed. Beyond 22 weeks you need to make a case I.e. safety of the mother.

This legislation is more about "blocking public entities from denying or restricting that right." It's a political shoring up, probably against what is happening in other states.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-07-2022, 11:08 AM
I've just done some reading and the legal abortion age in Colorado is 22 weeks. That hasn't changed. Beyond 22 weeks you need to make a case I.e. safety of the mother.

This legislation is more about "blocking public entities from denying or restricting that right." It's a political shoring up, probably against what is happening in other states.

:wrong:

There was a bill in 2020 that was proposed to limit abortion to 22 weeks, but it did not pass (https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb20-1098)

Late term abortion is perfectly legal in Colorado.

https://i.imgur.com/IqEEwpC.png

https://naralcolorado.org/laws-policy/in-our-state/

lost in melb.
04-07-2022, 02:10 PM
:wrong:

There was a bill in 2020 that was proposed to limit abortion to 22 weeks, but it did not pass (https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb20-1098)

Late term abortion is perfectly legal in Colorado.

https://i.imgur.com/IqEEwpC.png

https://naralcolorado.org/laws-policy/in-our-state/

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

I'm not going to comment on those medical conditions it's not my area, but 26 weeks to have an abortion without question is getting pretty ridiculous. I would like to know how they came to that decision? I don't think that would be medically recommended.

RBP
04-08-2022, 02:49 AM
Ok, thanks for clarifying.

I'm not going to comment on those medical conditions it's not my area, but 26 weeks to have an abortion without question is getting pretty ridiculous. I would like to know how they came to that decision? I don't think that would be medically recommended.

The answer is there are no limits people who I find just as nutty as the no abortion people. No limits is insanity.

deebakes
04-08-2022, 03:55 AM
we've already got too many babies anyway :lol: