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Teh One Who Knocks
06-08-2022, 06:37 PM
By Jessica Chasmar | Fox News


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Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., on Tuesday bragged about buying an expensive electric vehicle amid a global semiconductor chip shortage and being able to bypass historically high gas prices on her road trip to Washington, D.C.

Stabenow briefly weighed in on gas prices, which hit a national average of $4.94 per gallon Tuesday, during Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen’s testimony before the Senate Finance Committee on President Biden’s 2023 budget.

"I do have to say, just on the issue of gas prices, after waiting for a long time to have enough chips in this country to finally get my electric vehicle," the senator said. "I got it and drove it from Michigan to here this last weekend and went by every single gas station, and it didn’t matter how high it was.
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"And so I’m looking forward to the opportunity for us to move to vehicles that aren’t going to be dependent on the whims of the oil companies and the international markets," she added.

Stabenow went on to hail Biden’s handling of the economy and blamed the "global supply chain" for the reason "we’re not getting enough of those chips for automobiles."

In her prepared testimony, Yellen said the U.S. is facing "unacceptable levels of inflation" and that elements of Biden’s proposed budget, "including the clean energy initiatives and plans to reform the prescription drug market," can "help lower the costs paid by American consumers."

The hearing comes one week after Yellen admitted she was "wrong" about the path of inflation after downplaying its threat to American consumers for months.

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"I think I was wrong then about the path that inflation would take," she said during a CNN interview. "As I mentioned, there have been unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that have boosted energy and food prices and supply bottlenecks that have affected our economy badly that I didn't at the time fully understand."

Teh One Who Knocks
06-08-2022, 06:38 PM
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PorkChopSandwiches
06-08-2022, 07:28 PM
:honk:

Pony
06-08-2022, 09:32 PM
I just read another article of a reporter driving a Kia electric across country. took her 4 days and she spent more time charging (18 hours total) than sleeping (16 hours). And spent $150 for electricity vs the estimated $250 for gas. So she saved $100 bucks but spent nearly a whole day charging because the vast majority of the charging stations across the country were not fast chargers.

It said for the average person you can save $80 bucks a month in "fuel" costs, with the purchase price difference between gas and electric vehicles that $80 will take a mere 63 years to break even.

deebakes
06-08-2022, 09:49 PM
:ffs:

Teh One Who Knocks
06-08-2022, 09:52 PM
I just read another article of a reporter driving a Kia electric across country. took her 4 days and she spent more time charging (18 hours total) than sleeping (16 hours). And spent $150 for electricity vs the estimated $250 for gas. So she saved $100 bucks but spent nearly a whole day charging because the vast majority of the charging stations across the country were not fast chargers.

It said for the average person you can save $80 bucks a month in "fuel" costs, with the purchase price difference between gas and electric vehicles that $80 will take a mere 63 years to break even.Just for the hell of it, I looked up the price of used electric cars in the Denver metro area and there wasn't much available. What I did find were a few Nissan Leafs that were between 2 and 4 years old and they were all over $30K.

lost in melb.
06-11-2022, 08:59 PM
Meh, the most common car I saw on American roads was a massive truck worth at least 50k. Some Ford thing. If you can afford that, you can afford an electric car.


Edit: According to Kelley Blue Book's latest figures, the average transaction price of a 2018 Ford F-150 is $47,174.


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deebakes
06-11-2022, 10:32 PM
that's a 2018, it's 2022 now

KevinD
06-12-2022, 03:16 PM
An F-150 is not massive. Its just a 1/2 ton truck. It might actual surprise you how fuel efficient they are.
My 1/2 ton (chevrolet LTZ) cost 52k in 2015. I bought it used in 2019 for $28k. At sensible highway speeds it gets around 26mpg.

As a speed junky, I'm actually cool with electric vehicles. My problem is the overall net effect on the planet. They are NOT "green"

Pony
06-12-2022, 04:32 PM
. If you can afford that, you can afford an electric car.



The issue is the Dems think the answer is for everyone to run out and buy a brand new one right now. First off, many you see on the road were not new or even bought new at full price. Second, those that are relatively new or were bought new in the last couple years are likely still being paid for. My point is the majority of people were not planning on buying anything in the next couple years, let alone turning in a perfectly good vehicle just because the Greens say so. Third, as I said above, the infrastructure simply isn't there yet for "everyone" to just run out and buy a coal powered car as they want us to.

lost in melb.
06-12-2022, 05:12 PM
Agree that electric cars have a long way to go. I wouldn't characterise electric cars as elitist, though. They have them as taxis here.

Pony
06-12-2022, 11:54 PM
Agree that electric cars have a long way to go. I wouldn't characterise electric cars as elitist, though. They have them as taxis here.

Don't get me wrong, it's a great option for some people. And more and more people are buying them every year! My issue is the socialist party in power thinks it's a viable option for everyone to buy one right now. That's their answer to high gas prices, everyone spend money we don't have on electric. They are so out of touch.

deebakes
06-13-2022, 04:42 AM
and we are all swimming in extra cash right now to buy a new vehicle too :hand:

Godfather
06-13-2022, 06:50 AM
I'll buy an electric car when I can drive for 4-6 hours on a highway, in winter, without stopping for 45 minutes to recharge.

As it stands, I drive to a couple different cities in my province 400-500km away several times a year for work or fun, and I know Tesla drivers have to stop regardless of what the range on the sticker says it can do. Someone told me "Oh it's no big deal, you stop halfway for an hour lunch anyways."... For a 4.5 hour drive!? No you don't :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
06-13-2022, 10:21 AM
and we are all swimming in extra cash right now to buy a new vehicle too :hand:

Not to mention the fact that interest rates are going up, so it's going to cost a LOT more to finance a new vehicle now that it would have been just a couple of years ago.