‘Shocked’ Donald Trump will face 34 counts of business fraud after NYC indictment: lawyer Joe Tacopina

[Teh One Who Knocks]

By Victor Nava - New York Post


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Donald Trump was “shocked” when he learned Thursday that a Manhattan grand jury voted to indict him, according to his attorney, who revealed the former president will face 34 counts when he’s arraigned next week.

Joe Tacopina told Fox News host Sean Hannity that he talked to Trump, 76, after the indictment came down, saying they both learned about it through media reports and not from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office.

“He’s ready to fight. You know, he’s the toughest guy I know. He was shocked, you know, because we really weren’t – I was shocked,” Tacopina said of Trump’s reaction to the indictment.

“I’ve never been more angry about a charge because today, the rule of law in the United States of America died. It’s dead. It’s dead,” Tacopina said.

Tacopina added that he believes the reports that Trump will be charged with over 30 counts of business fraud.

“We now heard 34 counts, and I guarantee you it’s going to be 34 counts when we find out next week,” he said.

“They’ll take each check and make that a count, perhaps, and that’s how they’ll do it because the checks are paid to Cohen,” he explained.

The lawyer added that Trump’s expected Tuesday arraignment is “not finalized.”

“We are discussing with them, you know, obviously, there’s a group called the Secret Service that’s involved now. I mean, this is going to be something we’ve never seen the likes of,” Tacopina said.

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When asked if Trump will be handcuffed next week, Tacopina responded, “No.”

“This will backfire. Because we’re gonna win this case. We will humiliate them, and they will pay the price,” Tacopina added.

[DemonGeminiX]

bullshit is still bullshit when you cut it up into 34 pieces.

[lost in melb.]

You don't think Trump got Cohen to pay Daniels to cover up his 'indiscretion' :-k

[DemonGeminiX]

You don't think Trump got Cohen to pay Daniels to cover up his 'indiscretion' :-k

It doesn't matter. What's relevant is that Bragg is trying to turn this into a federal campaign finance malfeasance issue, which a) is not Bragg's jurisdiction as he's only a state level AG, and only AGs in the US DOJ have jurisdiction over such things, and b) federal AGs in the US DOJ already looked into this and refused to bring charges against Trump for it. Also, if Bragg is doing this on the state level, which is all he has the jurisdiction to do, then whatever other charges he has, or what was being discussed by the talking heads as possible charges relating to this, the statute of limitations on those charges have already run out.

Another issue is that Cohen is a proven liar and will say and do anything to get out of jail. So he's a shit witness with no credibility. He signed an admission statement earlier stating he paid her out of his own funds under his own power, without having been instructed to do so by anyone. That's a legal document and if Cohen testifies otherwise then that legal document will come back and bite him on the ass.

And frankly, if we use a little common sense here: Who the hell gives a fuck if he fucked her and paid her off to keep her quiet? That's between him and his wife and no one else.

[lost in melb.]

I guess we'll see what charges are laid and what evidence they have.

But regarding your last paragraph, though I actually agree
.. if the payment was politically motivated (to stop the American people from knowing) then it's against the law. Maybe it's a bad law, but that's a different matter.

[DemonGeminiX]

I guess we'll see what charges are laid and what evidence they have.

But regarding your last paragraph, though I actually agree
.. if the payment was politically motivated (to stop the American people from knowing) then it's against the law. Maybe it's a bad law, but that's a different matter.

But I've already gone over that in the second paragraph. It's a matter of a sworn testimony put into legal documentation that Trump had nothing to do with it. Cohen was responsible for it all, as he stated under oath. You can't just wipe that away and pretend it doesn't exist.

Also, again, federal issue, Bragg has no jurisdiction.

[DemonGeminiX]

Oh, and keep in mind, that in the USA, a defendant is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Seems like everybody's forgetting that.

[lost in melb.]

But I've already gone over that in the second paragraph. It's a matter of a sworn testimony put into legal documentation that Trump had nothing to do with it. Cohen was responsible for it all, as he stated under oath. You can't just wipe that away and pretend it doesn't exist.

Also, again, federal issue, Bragg has no jurisdiction.

They may have other evidence.

[lost in melb.]

Oh, and keep in mind, that in the USA, a defendant is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Seems like everybody's forgetting that.

Yes, so Trump is getting his day in court. Nevertheless, it is significant that he is going to face criminal charges.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Yes, so Trump is getting his day in court. Nevertheless, it is significant that he is going to face criminal charges.There's nothing "significant" about it. It's a county DA trying to make a political name for himself. As has already been mentioned in this thread, multiple agencies with far more expertise and authority to pursue these charges have all looked into it and said there is no case. He is trying to fabricate federal charges for things that were barely a misdemeanor under NY state law where the statute of limitations has already expired.

This DA won't even prosecute violent felonies in his own jurisdiction and is reducing the penalties of crime in New York City, yet he is hell bent on pursuing this which happened in 2016 FFS. This is nothing more than a personal vendetta from someone who vowed to "get Trump" if elected. It's all bullshit.

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There's nothing "significant" about it. It's a county DA trying to make a political name for himself. As has already been mentioned in this thread, multiple agencies with far more expertise and authority to pursue these charges have all looked into it and said there is no case. He is trying to fabricate federal charges for things that were barely a misdemeanor under NY state law where the statute of limitations has already expired.

This DA won't even prosecute violent felonies in his own jurisdiction and is reducing the penalties of crime in New York City, yet he is hell bent on pursuing this which happened in 2016 FFS. This is nothing more than a personal vendetta from someone who vowed to "get Trump" if elected. It's all bullshit.

Yes I agree it's a witch hunt. But we don't know what the 34 counts of business fraud are, so I see no point speculating on anything to do with them.

Soon we will know exactly what those counts are.

[DemonGeminiX]

Yes I agree it's a witch hunt. But we don't know what the 34 counts of business fraud are, so I see no point speculating on anything to do with them.

Soon we will know exactly what those counts are.

It's 34 counts of bullshit is what it is.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

This is just going to get him elected I'm guessing.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

This is just going to get him elected I'm guessing.

I still think that his unfavorablity among independents is far too high for him to be a viable candidate to defeat anyone on the democrat side.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

I guess we will see, I was listening to some political speaker and his take was that people that were kinda on the fence are seeing exactly how out of control the government is and are starting to lean back towards Trump for some more swamp cleaning. Some of these latest polls seem to be showing him in a pretty good position and looking better every day


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[Teh One Who Knocks]

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That's from Five Thirty Eight, so it's an aggregate of several polls out there. It's not good.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Not that good I guess

[DemonGeminiX]

Polls are garbage. They're always getting it wrong.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

The Post Millennial Staff


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A source tells Yahoo News that Donald Trump will be charged with 34 felony counts for "falsification of business records", but there will be no mug shot and Trump will not be handcuffed.

Yahoo News reports: "But, the source said, Trump will not be put in handcuffs, placed in a jail cell or subjected to a mug shot — typical procedures even for white-collar defendants until a judge has weighed in on pretrial conditions. Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office, which has been consulting with the Secret Service and New York City court officials, concluded that there was no reason to subject the former president to handcuffs or a mug shot."

Yahoo News describes the single source as a "source who has been briefed on the procedures for the arraignment of the former president."

"Under the New York State penal code, a conviction for the Class E felony of falsifying business records can result in a prison term of up to four years. But as a practical matter, that seems extremely unlikely. 'No one gets jail time for that as a first offender,' said a New York law enforcement official" Yahoo News reports.

In response to the Yahoo News story, Trump posted the following on Truth Social.

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"Wow! District Attorney Bragg just illegally LEAKED the various points, and complete information, on the pathetic Indictment against me," Trump wrote. "I know the reporter and so, unfortunately, does he. This means that he MUST BE IMMEDIATELY INDICTED. Now, if he wants to really clean up his reputation, he will do the honorable thing and, as District Attorney, INDICT HIMSELF. He will go down in Judicial history, and his Trump Hating wife will be, I am sure, very proud of him!"

[lost in melb.]

It's a political hit job! Bragg wants a GOP POTUS 2024 ;)

[DemonGeminiX]

34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree? This shit is done, thrown out, tossed, etc etc etc

And it is all political.

[DemonGeminiX]

No underlying crimes or what he was trying conceal. All political.

[lost in melb.]

Paying hush money is not illegal. But the prosecution says Mr Trump falsified business records and broke election laws as he tried to cover up the payments....

[lost in melb.]

Guys, careful in future if you're in a business trip, rent a Stormy Daniels porn and bill it to your business account. :nono:

[DemonGeminiX]

Or just be a Republican President and nominee for President that the left really really doesn't like.

[DemonGeminiX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xnyClSsqoc

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Or just be a Republican President and nominee for President that the left really really doesn't like.

Hey, it only took 7 years for them to get Trump on a bookkeeping faux pas. :waiting:

[DemonGeminiX]

Hey, it only took 7 years for them to get Trump on a bookkeeping faux pas. :waiting:

And the statute of limits have run out on that.


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