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Teh One Who Knocks
06-20-2023, 11:33 AM
By Eric Levenson and Raja Razek, CNN


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Officials are in a race against time to find a civilian submersible that had five people aboard after it went missing Sunday in the North Atlantic while voyaging to the wreckage of the Titanic.

The 21-foot vessel has four days of emergency capability, the leader of search and rescue efforts said Monday afternoon, as crews with the US and Canadian coast guards continued scouring the ocean’s surface about 900 miles east of Cape Cod and used sonar to listen for sounds far below the water, which is up to 13,000 feet deep in the area.

The five people on board the vessel, which was on an expedition to view the Titanic wreckage, comprised one pilot and four “mission specialists,” Rear Adm. John Mauger, commander of the US Coast Guard’s First District, said Monday in a news conference. He didn’t identify the five and said authorities still were in the process of contacting family members.

He referred reporters to the group conducting the expedition, OceanGate Expeditions, for information about what the term “mission specialist” entails.

“We’re working very closely at this point to make sure that we’re doing everything that we can do to locate the submersible and rescue those on board,” Mauger said.

The Canadian research ship Polar Prince on Sunday notified the military branch it had lost contact with the underwater vessel, according to Coast Guard spokesperson Lt. Samantha Corcoran. In a tweet, the Coast Guard said the communication stopped approximately 1 hour, 45 minutes into the vessel’s dive.

Time is a factor, officials said. “In terms of the hours, we understood that that was 96 hours of rescue or emergency capability from the operator,” Mauger told reporters. “And so we anticipate that there’s somewhere between 70 to the full 96 hours available at this point.”

A British businessman based in the United Arab Emirates, Hamish Harding, is one of the people on the submersible, according to a social media post by the company he owns, Action Aviation.

“The sub had a successful launch and Hamish is currently diving,” the company said in an Instagram post on Sunday.

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Harding was one of the first people to travel the Challenger Deep in the Pacific Ocean – the deepest known point on Earth. On Saturday he wrote of the Titanic mission: “I am proud to finally announce that I joined OceanGate Expeditions for their RMS TITANIC Mission as a mission specialist on the sub going down to the Titanic.”

Search assets include civilian ships

C-130 aircraft were searching the surface and two P-8 planes that use sonar to find submarines were part of the search efforts, Mauger said Monday. Commercial ships are also involved and one has sonar, he added.

“Oftentimes, we rely on commercial operators to be the first vessels on scene,” Mauger said. “And so we’ve been in touch with additional commercial vessels that are operating in the area as well as initiating the movement of additional Canadian Coast Guard assets and US Coast Guard surface assets into the area over the course of the next couple of days.”

The US Coast Guard also has been in touch with the US Navy and the Canadian military to determine what underwater rescue capability is available, if needed, Mauger said.

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OceanGate is assisting in the search and said it is “exploring and mobilizing all options to bring the crew back safely.”

“Our entire focus is on the crewmembers in the submersible and their families. We are deeply thankful for the extensive assistance we have received from several government agencies and deep sea companies in our efforts to reestablish contact with the submersible,” the group said. “We are working toward the safe return of the crewmembers.”

Chief Mi’sel Joe of Miawpukek First Nation, which co-owns the Polar Prince, the support vessel on the expedition, said he received a call Sunday afternoon alerting him the sub was two hours overdue and still hadn’t surfaced, and they had lost communication with the sub. At that point, requests for search and rescue had gone out, he said.

The US Coast Guard tweeted Monday night that its C-130’s had returned to North Carolina and the P-8’s would resume their searches in the morning.

The Polar Prince and the Air National Guard’s 106th Rescue Wing would continue surface searches through the evening, according to the Coast Guard.

Sub has safety features, company says

OceanGate Expeditions operates a trip taking passengers to the Titanic’s wreckage at the bottom of the ocean for prices starting at $250,000, according to an archived version of its website, accessible via the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine.

“Follow in Jacques Cousteau’s footsteps and become an underwater explorer — beginning with a dive to the wreck of the RMS Titanic. This is your chance to step outside of everyday life and discover something truly extraordinary,” the website said. “Become one of the few to see the Titanic with your own eyes.”

The eight-day expedition is based out of St. John’s, Newfoundland and begins with a 400-nautical-mile journey to the wreck site. There, up to five people, including a pilot, a “content expert” and three paying passengers, board a submersible named “Titan” and descend over two hours to the bottom of the ocean to see the Titanic up close.

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According to OceanGate, Titan is a 23,000-pound submersible made of carbon fiber and titanium. As a safety feature, the sub uses a “proprietary real-time hull health monitoring (RTM) system” that analyzes the pressure on the vessel and the integrity of the structure, the company states.

The Titanic infamously hit an iceberg on its maiden voyage and sank in the North Atlantic Ocean in April 1912, killing more than 1,500 people. The wreckage of the Titanic, discovered in 1985, sits in two parts at the bottom of the ocean nearly 13,000 feet below the surface, southeast of Newfoundland.

Unlike a submarine, a submersible has limited power reserves so it needs a mother ship that can launch and recover it, according to NOAA.

‘Think positive’ expedition participant on Polar Prince posts

An expedition participant on board the Polar Prince, the ship that launched the now-missing sub, said they are all “focused on board here for our friends.”

“We have a situation that is now the part of a major Search and Rescue effort, being undertaken by major agencies,” Rory Golden wrote on Facebook after being contacted by CNN. “That is where our focus is right now.”

He asked people not to ask for or speculate on the names of those on the missing sub.

“I have seen some comments already on social media that are highly inappropriate and insensitive,” he said. He added their online and internet options were being restricted “to keep bandwidth available for the coordinated effort that is taking place.”

“The reaction and offers of help globally is truly astonishing, and only goes to show the real goodness in people at a time like this,” he said. He ended the post thanking everyone and saying, “… think positive. We are.”

PorkChopSandwiches
06-20-2023, 03:25 PM
That boat just keeps killing people

Teh One Who Knocks
06-20-2023, 03:32 PM
On the news last night they said there was a 96 hour oxygen supply on board. If they didn't already get crushed on the bottom of the ocean, they're as good as dead already.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-21-2023, 12:53 PM
By Sarah Rumpf-Whitten | Fox News


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A Canadian aircraft deployed to assist with rescue efforts for the missing Titanic tourist submersible picked up "underwater noises" in the vessel's search area, according to the Coast Guard (USCG).

"Canadian P-3 aircraft detected underwater noises in the search area," the USCG in the Northeast region announced on Twitter early Wednesday morning.

The Coast Guard said the detection of the underwater sounds in the designated search area prompted investigators to deploy remotely operated vehicle to relocate and investigate the origin of the unusual noises.

Though the search efforts "yielded negative results," the USCG said the operation continues.

The branch stated that data has been shared with experts in the U.S. Navy for "further analysis" that will be considered in future search plans.
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As of Tuesday morning, over 10,000 square miles had been searched in efforts to find the 21-foot submersible, the Coast Guard reported, but the vessel has not been detected since it disappeared on Sunday.

The sub, which is carrying five people, was in the process of diving approximately 12,500 feet underwater to view the Titanic's wreckage site.

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First Coast Guard District Response Coordinator Capt. Jamie Frederick said multiple agencies with expertise and special equipment are participating in the "complex" search effort.

"While the Coast Guard has assumed the role of Search and Rescue Mission Coordinator, we do not have all of the necessary expertise and equipment required in a search of this nature," Frederick said. "The Unified Command brings that expertise and additional capability together to maximize effort in solving this complex problem."

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Earlier on Tuesday after a press briefing, Chief Petty Officer Robert Simpson declined reports of an alleged tapping or banging noise coming from the vessel, adding that crews have not heard "any sounds from the sub."

The submersible, which was only equipped with a 96-hour oxygen supply, began its dive at 8 a.m. on Sunday and was expected to resurface at 3 p.m. The Coast Guard said it received a report at 5:40 p.m. from Canadian research vessel Polar Prince alerting that the sub was overdue for its return.

The Polar Prince also reported that it lost contact with the sub approximately 1 hour and 45 minutes into its dive.

PorkChopSandwiches
06-21-2023, 03:48 PM
Tough way to go

Godfather
06-22-2023, 05:35 AM
Read an interesting note that when that Argentina sub went down, they heard some banging sounds but later discovered the vessel had imploded so they figure the sounds were unrelated. I really hope that's the case here... because the prospect of being stuck in that thing until oxygen runs out is more grim than just imploding and being crushed to the size of a baseball in a fraction of a second.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-22-2023, 11:56 AM
By Greg Norman - FOX News

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The missing OceanGate Titan submarine is expected to run out of oxygen by Thursday morning, according to Coast Guard estimates.

In a statement issued Wednesday night, the Coast Guard said the sub "was launched at 8 a.m. EDT [Sunday] and expected to resurface at 3 p.m., but one hour and 45 minutes into their dive, they lost contact with the Polar Prince."

On OceanGate's website, it lists the Titan sub as having 96 hours of life support for a crew of five passengers.

The vessel has vanished in the Atlantic Ocean after diving down to view the wreckage of the Titanic.

The Coast Guard also said Wednesday night that "Underwater sounds have been detected in the search area, resulting in the redirection of remotely operated vehicle (ROV) operations to explore the origin.

"These recordings have been shared with the U.S. Navy for analysis to help guide future search efforts," the Coast Guard added.

The source of these sounds has not been confirmed.

The Coast Guard also said an area twice the size of Connecticut has been searched so far, 900 nautical miles east of Cape Cod, Massachusetts.

On Thursday morning, the Canadian Coast Guard's Ann Harvey and "Motor Vessel Horizon Arctic (ROV) have arrived on scene and are conducting search patterns in search of submersible," the Coast Guard announced.

PorkChopSandwiches
06-22-2023, 03:41 PM
Read an interesting note that when that Argentina sub went down, they heard some banging sounds but later discovered the vessel had imploded so they figure the sounds were unrelated. I really hope that's the case here... because the prospect of being stuck in that thing until oxygen runs out is more grim than just imploding and being crushed to the size of a baseball in a fraction of a second.

Absolutly

Teh One Who Knocks
06-22-2023, 04:02 PM
I would bet it's safe to say that at this point and time, which is now well past the 96 hours of air they had on board, that they are dead. Either they lost power and slowly sunk to the bottom of the ocean, probably caught in some ocean current and possibly hundreds if not thousands of miles off course so there is no hope of ever finding them, or there was a structural failure and as GF mentioned, they would have been crushed to death by the water pressure at those depths. And even if they had miraculously surfaced somewhere, they still would be dead because they would have suffocated because there is no way to open the submersible from the inside.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-22-2023, 04:15 PM
By Michael Ruiz | Fox News


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A remotely operated vehicle found a "debris field" in the days-long search for five ocean explorers missing aboard the OceanGate Titan submersible, a deep-sea vehicle that vanished Sunday in an attempt to dive to the wreck of the Titanic, the U.S. Coast Guard said Thursday morning.

"Experts within the unified command are evaluating the information," the Coast Guard announced on Twitter.

Additional details were not immediately available, but authorities were expected to give an update soon.

The Titan lost contact with its surface vessel, the Polar Prince, around 1 hour and 45 minutes into its dive Sunday morning, about 900 miles east of Cape Cod, Massachusetts, and around 400 miles southeast of St John's, in Canada's Newfoundland.

Inside the sealed vehicle are OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush; British businessman turned adventurer Hamish Harding; father-and-son Shahzada and Suleman Dawood, who are members of one of Pakistan’s wealthiest families; and Paul-Henry Nargeolet, a former French navy officer and leading Titanic expert.

The U.S. Coast Guard headed a unified command that involved commercial assets, research vehicles and military counterparts from Canada, France and the United Kingdom.

Search-and-rescue crews spent the week deploying high-tech buoys, robotic vehicles known as ROVs, surface vessels and aerial searches in an effort to pinpoint the missing sub's location.

On Tuesday and Wednesday, Canadian pilots picked up repeated sounds during their search.

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Carl Hartsfield, a retired Navy captain and a scientist from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, said during a USCG briefing that the noises had been "described as banging."

Authorities did not elaborate and had not discovered their source on Wednesday.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-22-2023, 05:44 PM
By Hank Berrien - The Daily Wire


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The founder of the company whose submersible became lost on a dive to view the wreckage of the Titanic, sparking a frantic, deep-sea rescue effort that has riveted people around the world, once declared he didn’t want to hire “50-year-old white guys” on his team even if they were seasoned submariners.

Stockton Rush, CEO of OceanGate Expeditions, is aboard the submerged vessel along with billionaire explorer Hamish Harding, French explorer Paul-Henry Nargeolet, and British businessman Shahzada Dawood and his son, Suleman. Since the 22-foot craft lost contact with the surface early Sunday, critics have come forward to blast the company’s safety practices. But Rush was previously adamant that he values youth over experience when it comes to assembling his crews.

“When I started the business, one of the things you’ll find, there are other sub operators out there, but they typically have gentlemen who are ex-military sub-mariners, and they — you’ll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old white guys,” Rush told Teledyne Marine representatives before the expedition began. Teledyne Marine made the sonar systems and the navigation systems for the vessel.

“I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational,” he continued. “And I’m not going to inspire a 16-year-old to go pursue marine technology, but a 25-year-old who’s a sub pilot or a platform operator, one of our techs, can be inspirational. So we’ve really tried to get very intelligent, motivated, younger individuals involved because we’re doing things that are completely new.”

“We’re taking approaches that are used largely in the aerospace industry as related to safety and some of the preponderance of checklists, things we do for risk assessments, things like that that are more aviation-related than ocean-related,” he declared. “We can train people to do that; we can train someone to pilot the sub. We use like game controller so anybody can drive the sub.”

Aaron Amick, founder of Sub Brief, who served as a U.S. Navy contractor and provided strategic and policy level consultation for domestic and international clients on cleared Navy projects, played the call from Rush in a video explaining some of the problems the beleaguered vessel may have faced as it has reputedly sunk to a depth of 12,000 feet below the surface.

“You don’t want to only hire young college graduates that you would then train to inspire the next generation,” Amick opined. “You have to have subject matter experts at some point in the chain. And I’m not talking about the vice-admiral that’s on the board of directors … but you don’t seem to have a subject matter expert that’s from the submarine community, that could maybe talk about some of the problems.”

PorkChopSandwiches
06-22-2023, 05:56 PM
Alexa, play air supply

Teh One Who Knocks
06-22-2023, 07:25 PM
By Michael Ruiz | Fox News


BOSTON – The search for the missing OceanGate Titan submersible came to a tragic end Thursday when search-and-rescue teams discovered a "debris field" on the ocean floor near the wreck of the Titanic, where the crew was headed before losing contact with their surface vessel Sunday morning.

"The debris is consistent with the catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber. Upon this determination, we immediately notified the families on behalf of the United States Coast Guard and the entire unified command," the Coast Guard said at a news briefing Thursday.

The announcement came hours after the USCG alerted the public that a robotic vehicle made the discovery.

"A debris field was discovered within the search area by an ROV near the Titanic," the USCG said just before noon. ROV stands for remotely operated vehicle. Experts were evaluating the information.

The Titan lost contact with its surface vessel, the Polar Prince, around 1 hour and 45 minutes into its dive Sunday morning, about 900 miles east of Cape Cod, Massachusetts, and around 400 miles southeast of St John's, in Canada's Newfoundland.

"We understand debris has been found which may be the landing frame and a rear cover of the tail instrument compartment of The Titan lost on previous dives," Richard Garriott, the president of the Explorers Club which had members on the missing sub, wrote to the group, according to a spokesman. "We hear there may be additional debris, but no updated visuals of the submersible."

Inside the sealed vehicle are OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush; British businessman turned adventurer Hamish Harding; father-and-son Shahzada and Suleman Dawood, who are members of one of Pakistan’s wealthiest families; and Paul-Henry Nargeolet, a former French navy officer and leading Titanic expert.

"These men were true explorers who shared a distinct spirit of adventure, and a deep passion for exploring and protecting the world’s oceans," OceanGate said in a statement. "Our hearts are with these five souls and every member of their families during this tragic time."

The U.S. Coast Guard headed a unified command that involved commercial assets, research vehicles and military counterparts from Canada, France and the United Kingdom.

Search-and-rescue crews spent the week deploying high-tech buoys, robotic vehicles known as ROVs, surface vessels and aerial searches in an effort to pinpoint the missing sub's location.

As of Thursday morning, several with the ability to reach the ocean floor had been deployed in the Atlantic as the Titan’s estimated initial supply of 96 hours of oxygen dwindled – including the Victor 6000, which descended from the French L'Atalante research vessel to the ocean floor.

A Canadian vessel, the Horizon Arctic, also deployed its ROV Thursday morning, according to the U.S. Coast Guard.

On Tuesday and Wednesday, Canadian pilots picked up repeated sounds during their search.

Carl Hartsfield, a retired Navy captain and a scientist from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, said during a USCG briefing that the noises had been "described as banging."

Authorities did not elaborate and had not discovered their source on Wednesday.

DemonGeminiX
06-22-2023, 11:00 PM
:rip:

Godfather
06-23-2023, 05:22 AM
I've read rumors that the USN actually heard it go boom when it lost contact but couldn't say anything earlier because the tech that heard it is classified or something? Big grain of salt, but I guess that wouldn't be terribly surprising would it.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-23-2023, 12:21 PM
By Bradford Betz , Lucas Y. Tomlinson | Fox News


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The U.S. Navy detected what it suspected may have been an implosion within hours of the Titan submersible descending into the ocean to visit the Titanic wreckage.

A U.S. defense official said the Navy began listening for the Titan immediately after the vessel lost communication with the mother ship, approximately an hour and 45 minutes into its mission Sunday morning.

The official said the Navy’s top secret acoustic detection system picked sounds that were consistent with either an explosion or an implosion near where the Titan was found on Thursday.

The Navy passed on that information to the Coast Guard which continued its search because the Navy did not consider the data to be definitive.

"While not definitive, this information was immediately shared with the Incident Commander to assist with the ongoing search and rescue mission," the official said in a statement to Fox News Digital.

"If these reports are accurate, the acoustic data point is useful in light of the confirmation that we received today, but would not have been sufficient to suspend the search and rescue effort, only to possibly refine the search area," said retired Vice Admiral Robert Murrett, a professor of practice at Syracuse University’s Maxwell School and deputy director of the Institute for Security Policy and Law.

The U.S. Coast Guard confirmed earlier Thursday that a debris field found earlier in the day was the missing Titan submersible.

U.S. Coast Guard Rear Admiral John Mauger told reporters that the debris was consistent with the "catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber."

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"On behalf of the U.S. Coast Guard and the entire unified command, I offer my deepest condolences to the families," he said.

The Titan lost contact with its surface vessel, the Polar Prince, around one hour and 45 minutes into its dive Sunday morning, about 900 miles east of Cape Cod, Massachusetts, and around 400 miles southeast of St John's, in Canada's Newfoundland.

Inside the vessel were OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush; British businessman turned adventurer Hamish Harding; father-and-son Shahzada and Suleman Dawood, who are members of one of Pakistan’s wealthiest families; and Paul-Henry Nargeolet, a former French navy officer and leading Titanic expert.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-23-2023, 12:28 PM
By Bradford Betz | FOXBusiness


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OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush, one of five passengers killed on a fatal mission to the Titanic wreckage this week, once admitted on camera to "breaking some rules" to build the tourist submersible.

In comments to Mexican travel vlogger Alan Estrada in 2021, Rush evoked General MacArthur saying, "You’re remembered for the rules you break."

"I’ve broken some rules to make this. I think I’ve broken them with logic and good engineering behind me," Rush said.
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He conceded that deep-sea submersibles "as a rule" should not be made with carbon fiber and titanium, but he did anyway.

"It’s picking the rules that you break that are the ones that will add value to others and add value to society," Rush said.

His comments were among many peculiar aspects of OceanGate and its submersible that have emerged this week as the search for the Titan was underway.

Several, including an employee who was ultimately fired, said they had tried to raise security concerns about the vessel in the past.

During a segment aired by "CBS Sunday Morning" Rush said "we run the whole thing with this game controller" while holding up what appeared to be a modified Logitech F710 wireless gamepad.

In the CBS video, Rush’s version appeared to have elongated, modified sticks to help control the Titan submarine.

Another old clip of Rush has emerged, showing him explaining that he preferred not to hire "50-year-old White guys" with military experience to pilot his company’s vessels.

Rush said he valued captains who were "inspirational" over experience, noting that "anybody can drive the sub," which is controlled with a $30 video game controller.

"When I started the business, one of the things you'll find, there are other sub operators out there, but they typically have gentlemen who are ex-military submariners, and you'll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old White guys," Rush told Teledyne Marine in a 2020 Zoom interview.

FOX Business has reached out to OceanGate Expeditions for comment.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-29-2023, 02:49 PM
By Adam Sabes | Fox News


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The U.S. Coast Guard said Wednesday "presumed human remains" were recovered from the site of the Titan submersible wreckage.

"After consultation with international partner investigative agencies, the Marine Board of Investigation (MBI) intends to transport the evidence aboard a U.S. Coast Guard cutter to a port in the United States, where the MBI will be able to facilitate further analysis and testing," a Coast Guard statement says.

"United States medical professionals will conduct a formal analysis of presumed human remains that have been carefully recovered within the wreckage at the site of the incident."

According to the statement, the Marine Board of Investigation will transport the evidence to a Coast Guard cutter, where it will then be taken to a port for analysis.

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MBI Chair Captain Jason Neubauer said there's still work to be done.

"I am grateful for the coordinated international and interagency support to recover and preserve this vital evidence at extreme offshore distances and depths," Neubauer said.

"The evidence will provide investigators from several international jurisdictions with critical insights into the cause of this tragedy. There is still a substantial amount of work to be done to understand the factors that led to the catastrophic loss of the Titan and help ensure a similar tragedy does not occur again."

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The Titan lost contact with its surface vessel June 18, and its debris was found June 22, according to the Coast Guard, adding all passengers and crew members are presumed dead.

Some parts of the vessel were taken off of a vessel in St. John's Harbor in Newfoundland, Canada, Wednesday.

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The submersible imploded one hour and 45 minutes into its downward decent toward the Titanic wreckage.