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Teh One Who Knocks
08-09-2011, 02:47 PM
FOX 40 Sacramento


STOCKTON — An argument between Charlotte Greene and her 30-year-old boyfriend Daniel Baxter ended tragically inside a Stockton apartment Sunday morning.

Greene's puppy Feisty, a two-month-old red nose pitbull was thrown against a wall so hard, vets had to put it down. Stockton Police say it was Baxter who did it.

Still shaken up over the incident, Charlotte could barely speak as she gave FOX40 News her account later Sunday afternoon.

At 5a.m. she says Baxter came to her home drunk and demanding sex, when she refused, he went after the baby pit bull.

"He woke her too hard, punched her and threw her against the wall. I told him to stop and then ran to the bathroom and started crying," says Greene.

Broken ribs, bruises and a broken jaw left Feisty unable to walk. Greene says Daniel called paramedics for help but police showed up instead.

Police did escort Charlotte and Feisty to an emergency veterinarian, but the puppy suffered such severe brain trauma she had to be put down.

The woman can’t replace her pup, but she did have a message for her now ex-boyfriend.

"I just want him to get help, like anger management or program for him to stop drinking."

Baxter is facing a charge of animal cruelty. He is also facing parole violation charges and is ineligible for bail.

PorkChopSandwiches
08-09-2011, 02:50 PM
She should have gave up the poonanny

Muddy
08-09-2011, 02:51 PM
That's one pitbull that wont be eating anybody's face...

PorkChopSandwiches
08-09-2011, 03:05 PM
so he did the world a favor

Muddy
08-09-2011, 03:09 PM
The favor would have been to not purchase the dog in the first place..

PorkChopSandwiches
08-09-2011, 03:13 PM
:roll:

Arkady Renko
08-09-2011, 03:14 PM
so he did the world a favor

hard to say. If the woman is so scary he'd rather deal with a pitbull than try to rape her, I'm not sure he made the right choice.

FBD
08-09-2011, 04:07 PM
pitbull schmitbull. that's entirely nurture, very little nature. the people I know who have owned pitbulls raised them properly and they were some of the nicest animals I've ever met.

Muddy
08-09-2011, 04:09 PM
pitbull schmitbull. that's entirely nurture, very little nature. the people I know who have owned pitbulls raised them properly and they were some of the nicest animals I've ever met.

Whatever..

Muddy
08-09-2011, 04:14 PM
Im going to get a pet Cobra and see if I can love him into not biting anyone....

FBD
08-09-2011, 04:15 PM
:roll: I'll just gloss right over that oranges to meatloaf comparison...

defang him and he'll be a lot more complacent ;)

or, have a female cobra handy, in which case, the male will bow the fuck down.

Muddy
08-09-2011, 04:18 PM
Or I can just be trusted to do all those things... But hey, If I dont... It dont matter... Fuck it... Whats someones life worth? Nothing apparently.

FBD
08-09-2011, 04:26 PM
:lol: wtf are you on about, you likened owning a pitbull to owning a pet cobra! preposterous! way different animal, way different nature. you cant place the nature of snakes on par with that of mammals, especially when the nurture component ostensibly has a different coefficient.

PorkChopSandwiches
08-09-2011, 04:28 PM
He was raped by a pitbull I think

Muddy
08-09-2011, 04:28 PM
Your right to own a pitbull far outweighs my right to not be attacked by it... :sarcasmsmileyfag:

PorkChopSandwiches
08-09-2011, 04:29 PM
Any dog can attack anyone at any moment. Kill all dogs

PorkChopSandwiches
08-09-2011, 04:30 PM
Ban guns.
Take all people off the streets, they hurt people.
Put a ban on McDonalds, its poison. :meh:

Muddy
08-09-2011, 04:30 PM
Any dog can attack anyone at any moment. Kill all dogs

We've done this all before.. Do I really need to break out the charts of what dogs are killing people?

PorkChopSandwiches
08-09-2011, 04:32 PM
You want me to pull out a chart of what race kills the most people in the US, I just want you to be safe. Because the chances are you will be attacked by a human before you are attacked by a dog.

Muddy
08-09-2011, 04:32 PM
You want me to pull out a chart of what race kills the most people in the US, I just want you to be safe. Because the chances are you will be attacked by a human before you are attacked by a dog.


Only if you want to be labeled a racist... :dance:

FBD
08-09-2011, 04:34 PM
he's headed straight for us! shoot!

PorkChopSandwiches
08-09-2011, 04:39 PM
:dance:

Muddy
08-09-2011, 04:39 PM
See... baby love cobra...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dm-ziAGRM2A/Sb3d8Q8w3VI/AAAAAAAAATs/6hciKWlSq_c/s400/baby_cobra.jpg

deebakes
08-09-2011, 08:12 PM
alalalalalala jihad!

JoeyB
08-09-2011, 09:34 PM
pitbull schmitbull. that's entirely nurture, very little nature. the people I know who have owned pitbulls raised them properly and they were some of the nicest animals I've ever met.


Whatever..

This is entirely correct actually. The problem is that assholes tend to be attracted to pitbulls and train them to be aggressive. As a breed they are not overtly violent, any more than another dog would be. However, given their size and strength, they are particularly dangerous IF RAISED TO BE THAT WAY.


Im going to get a pet Cobra and see if I can love him into not biting anyone....

Good luck with that.

MUDDYGUT RIP 2011.

Oh and, this story is just one more reason why we NEED to have far more comprehensive and severe punishments for animal abusers.

Muddy
08-09-2011, 09:36 PM
This is entirely correct actually. The problem is that assholes tend to be attracted to pitbulls and train them to be aggressive. As a breed they are not overtly violent, any more than another dog would be. However, given their size and strength, they are particularly dangerous IF RAISED TO BE THAT WAY.


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So, how should I be responsible for this?

fricnjay
08-09-2011, 09:42 PM
Whatever..

I agree with FBD here. There are no bad dogs just bad owners. My dogs are half Staffy and they are very well natured animals. My dad has a Pit and it is a very loving dog. I had neighbors who breed them for show and all of their dogs where very well behaved. I agree dogs in general can be dangerous. Rotties Dobies and Pits all have been know to get out of hand, among others. So I will say this, if you are going to make the decision to buy a larger breed dog then take the time to learn about the breed and be a responsible pet owner.

Muddy
08-09-2011, 09:44 PM
So I will say this, if you are going to make the decision to buy a larger breed dog then take the time to learn about the breed and be a responsible pet owner.

But thats the problem.... People dont...

Teh One Who Knocks
08-09-2011, 09:45 PM
See... baby love cobra...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dm-ziAGRM2A/Sb3d8Q8w3VI/AAAAAAAAATs/6hciKWlSq_c/s400/baby_cobra.jpg

Imma get a full grown Bengal Tiger for a pet. And since I don't believe in tying poor animals up, I'm just gonna let hm roam the neighborhood :)

JoeyB
08-09-2011, 09:54 PM
So, how should I be responsible for this?

You're not responsible. I'm just saying that it's true about pitbulls...they are not a dangerous breed, they are made dangerous by asshole owners. As any dog could be.


But thats the problem.... People dont...

They don't, exactly. Which is why, once again, I point out we need to have far more comprehensive animal abuse laws as well as a greater range of punishment. And training an animal to be vicious is abuse, and should be a felony.

fricnjay
08-09-2011, 09:54 PM
But thats the problem.... People dont...

Thats the price we pay for Democracy...seriously. Some people are not going to get it right but its not fair to punish those that do for the few that dont. Democracy at work....and thank God because I love my dogs.


Imma get a full grown Bengal Tiger for a pet. And since I don't believe in tying poor animals up, I'm just gonna let hm roam the neighborhood :)


Growing up my dad had a friend he worked with that owned a Black Panther. He weighed around 130 -140ish and lived in an older part of Fort Worth. He had built a cage around his entire backyard but the cat did spend a lot of time in the house. He had even had it "DeClawed". :lol:

He was awesome, very well natured and loving, more so than my cat now that I think about it. There was a park near him and he would put him on a leash and walk him in the park. There where a lot of "brothas" in the area that would walk there Pits and they would shit bricks when they say that Panther walking down the path. :lol:

Someone eventually reported him to the city and the cat was taken and given to the local Zoo. We used to go visit and when would go there it was obvious he still remembered us.

Muddy
08-09-2011, 10:01 PM
Thats the price we pay for Democracy...seriously. Some people are not going to get it right but its not fair to punish those that do for the few that dont. Democracy at work....and thank God because I love my dogs.


I'm a bit sensitive to this subject, as my father was attacked by one of these things and bitten in the face 3 weeks ago at a party. I can understand Democracy as a viable argument, but I also think that people's 'personal freedoms' shouldn't be allowed to go buck wild and terrorize innocent people.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-09-2011, 10:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/pka2v.jpg

AntZ
08-09-2011, 10:12 PM
I thought I remember hearing once that Chows are actually very violent and have a bad reputation for attacking kids, but for some reason they go unnoticed??

http://i.imgur.com/r7ePI.jpg

Hal-9000
08-09-2011, 10:13 PM
Owning a dog is a want, not a need.More for the owners sense of needed love than vice versa.
According to the chart Lank posted, more than 50% of fatalities due to dog attacks are on children.That's about 49.9% more than I need to hear about...


Forget about what breeds hurt who and why...and look at the big picture.As much as you love your doggie, you're keeping an animal in your home...for you.
Unless you rescue dogs from lethal injection at the shelter...the relationship is for you.And if someone gets hurt because of your choice, the bad is on you too.

JoeyB
08-09-2011, 10:19 PM
Which is why, once again, I point out we need to have far more comprehensive animal abuse laws as well as a greater range of punishment. And training an animal to be vicious is abuse, and should be a felony.


Owning a dog is a want, not a need.More for the owners sense of needed love than vice versa.
According to the chart Lank posted, more than 50% of fatalities due to dog attacks are on children.That's about 49.9% more than I need to hear about...


Forget about what breeds hurt who and why...and look at the big picture.As much as you love your doggie, you're keeping an animal in your home...for you.
Unless you rescue dogs from lethal injection at the shelter...the relationship is for you.And if someone gets hurt because of your choice, the bad is on you too.

As I was saying, it's not the breed but the owners. Owners who train for violence should be held responsible more than we hold them now.

But, back to the first story in this thread, that guy needs to be severely punished.

Griffin
08-09-2011, 10:21 PM
I thought I remember hearing once that Chows are actually very violent and have a bad reputation for attacking kids, but for some reason they go unnoticed??

http://i.imgur.com/r7ePI.jpg

http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/6870482.jpg

Hal-9000
08-09-2011, 10:27 PM
:lol: awesome Ewok pic Grif

deebakes
08-10-2011, 02:12 AM
i don't get it :-k

PorkChopSandwiches
08-10-2011, 03:09 PM
kill everything with teeth because people dont take responsibility and MG is scared.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-10-2011, 03:12 PM
kill everything with teeth because people dont take responsibility and MG is scared.

How about a compromise? If someone wants to own a dangerous breed of animal as a pet and they can't control it and it harms me, one of my family members, or one of my pets, then I get to shoot the owner in the face. It's a win-win situation :)

PorkChopSandwiches
08-10-2011, 03:16 PM
How about a compromise? If someone wants to own a dangerous breed of animal as a pet and they can't control it and it harms me, one of my family members, or one of my pets, then I get to shoot the owner in the face. It's a win-win situation :)

I am all for owner responsibility, but MG thinks that people need to be controlled by government because nobody has any control over there lives and will raise a herd of people eating pitbulls

Arkady Renko
08-10-2011, 03:30 PM
most of the states in germany have come up with a list of potentially dangerous breeds. People who own one of these dogs or whose dogs has previous convictions need to take out a special dog owner's liability insurance or else they'll be fined and eventually see their pets impounded.

Might be a coincidence, but I've noticed a considerable dip in cat food prices since these laws took effect.

Muddy
08-10-2011, 03:35 PM
I am all for owner responsibility, but MG thinks that people need to be controlled by government because nobody has any control over there lives and will raise a herd of people eating pitbulls


The fbd of pit bull rights..

PorkChopSandwiches
08-10-2011, 03:37 PM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRsLDEV_LNsb_3s34yXDtxvBiwfn9rGS i9biCBIrYRjtWxspzgs

Muddy
08-10-2011, 03:41 PM
I would be on board for owners of lethal breeds of dogs to have to obtain a permit to own them, and have to go through some form of training.. Like when you get a concealed weapons license..

PorkChopSandwiches
08-10-2011, 03:43 PM
Any medium to large dog can be "lethal"


http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhx4m3PosQ1qeq0mdo1_400.jpg

Muddy
08-10-2011, 03:46 PM
Any medium to large dog can be "lethal"


http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhx4m3PosQ1qeq0mdo1_400.jpg


But statistically only a few breeds are.. So you picture is dumb.

PorkChopSandwiches
08-10-2011, 03:52 PM
90% of all stats are made up

Arkady Renko
08-10-2011, 05:09 PM
I think it would be most unwise to carry a pitbull concealed under your clothing, so the argument is somewhat moot.