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Teh One Who Knocks
08-12-2011, 08:54 PM
By Gregg Keizer, Computerworld


Starting with Firefox 8, Mozilla will automatically block browser add-ons installed by other software until users approve them, a company product manager announced yesterday.

Software-bundled add-ons have been a problem for Firefox users, who have sometimes been surprised to find browser extensions show up on their machines without their consent.

An add-on included with Skype, for example, caused such a high number of browser crashes that Mozilla added it to a list of banned extensions last January. And in 2009, an add-on that Microsoft silently slipped into Firefox left browser users open to attack, a fact that Microsoft itself admitted.

"While some of these applications seek the user's permission beforehand, others install add-ons into Firefox without checking to make sure the user actually wants them," said Justin Scott, product manager for add-ons, on a Mozilla company blog .

Scott ticked off numerous issues with such add-ons, ranging from slowing down Firefox's startup and page loading times to not keeping up with Firefox's feature and security updates. "Most importantly, they take the user out of control of their add-ons," Scott said.

Changes slated for Firefox 8, which will hit Mozilla's "Aurora" preview channel next week and is scheduled to release in final form on November 8, will return control to users, argued Scott.

If Firefox 8 finds that another program has installed an add-on, the browser will automatically disable it until the user has agreed to its installation. "Users that want the functionality provided by a third-party-installed add-on can easily allow the installation, while users who don't can cancel or ignore the prompt," said Scott.

Previously-installed add-ons will also be tagged when users upgrade to Firefox 8, and won't be enabled until the user explicitly agrees.

Developers who follow Mozilla's rules -- asking users to opt-in -- will be affected as well as those who try to slip an add-on by users, something that immediately raised questions.

"We have an installer on Windows that installs an add-in to Firefox (via an .exe). Its only job is to install the add-on and the user is agreeing to install the add-on," said Michael Kaply, a former IBM developer who now consults with corporations on customizing Firefox for their workers or clients. "How do we keep this prompt from appearing in this case?" Kaply asked in a comment appended to Scott's blog.

Firefox 8 will detect add-ons installed by other software and require the user's permission before enabling the extension. (Graphic: Mozilla.)

Mozilla didn't have an answer for Kaply.

"Firefox unfortunately doesn't have any way of knowing if the user was ever asked about installing the extension," acknowledged Alex Faaborg, a principal designer at Mozilla, in another comment. "So the only way to ensure user control is to ask them when Firefox launches."

Scott echoed that, saying that impact of bad add-ons outweighed the pain that will be felt by developers who abide by the rules. "Unfortunately, the extent of unwanted add-ons installed through these methods has caused us to take action, but we're confident that users who truly want such add-ons to be installed will opt in when Firefox prompts them," he said.

Users can try out the new add-on management features by downloading Firefox 8 after it lands on the Aurora channel next week.

Hal-9000
08-12-2011, 10:01 PM
Browsers and Windows in general piss me off :x


Like FF for example...you install it and then it offers you some plugins and extensions that you may or may not want...or need.
The average pc user doesn't know what they really need until it comes time to use the plugin.

Why can't FF install itself, then put in the flash player, the java, the whatevers...and then say - You're good to go :thumbsup:

JoeyB
08-12-2011, 10:06 PM
Browsers and Windows in general piss me off :x


Like FF for example...you install it and then it offers you some plugins and extensions that you may or may not want...or need.
The average pc user doesn't know what they really need until it comes time to use the plugin.

Why can't FF install itself, then put in the flash player, the java, the whatevers...and then say - You're good to go :thumbsup:

This is why I like Opera...it has everything but quietly. You dig and create what you want. It's ready to go right out of the box, or endlessly customizable if you wish.

Shady
08-13-2011, 02:28 AM
I'm still using firefox 3

deebakes
08-13-2011, 02:56 AM
What's a firefox? :-k

JoeyB
08-13-2011, 04:32 AM
I'm still using firefox 3

LOL...you know...that was the last version I ever installed. 1.5 was the last I ever used regularly. I was shocked when this said ff 8 was coming out. Crazy.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-13-2011, 11:05 AM
I'm still using firefox 3

Mozilla will shortly stop offering support for versions 3.x and 4.x

Right now 5.0 is the current version and works fine. I went and grabbed their newest project beta named Aurora:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/channel/

It seems great so far and is super fast and is compatible with almost all the addons I use