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Acid Trip
08-26-2011, 12:50 PM
What a wonderful use of our tax dollars.

Guitar Frets: Environmental Enforcement Leaves Musicians in Fear

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576530520471223268.html

Federal agents swooped in on Gibson Guitar Wednesday, raiding factories and offices in Memphis and Nashville, seizing several pallets of wood, electronic files and guitars. The Feds are keeping mum, but in a statement yesterday Gibson's chairman and CEO, Henry Juszkiewicz, defended his company's manufacturing policies, accusing the Justice Department of bullying the company. "The wood the government seized Wednesday is from a Forest Stewardship Council certified supplier," he said, suggesting the Feds are using the aggressive enforcement of overly broad laws to make the company cry uncle.

It isn't the first time that agents of the Fish and Wildlife Service have come knocking at the storied maker of such iconic instruments as the Les Paul electric guitar, the J-160E acoustic-electric John Lennon played, and essential jazz-boxes such as Charlie Christian's ES-150. In 2009 the Feds seized several guitars and pallets of wood from a Gibson factory, and both sides have been wrangling over the goods in a case with the delightful name "United States of America v. Ebony Wood in Various Forms."

The question in the first raid seemed to be whether Gibson had been buying illegally harvested hardwoods from protected forests, such as the Madagascar ebony that makes for such lovely fretboards. And if Gibson did knowingly import illegally harvested ebony from Madagascar, that wouldn't be a negligible offense. Peter Lowry, ebony and rosewood expert at the Missouri Botanical Garden, calls the Madagascar wood trade the "equivalent of Africa's blood diamonds." But with the new raid, the government seems to be questioning whether some wood sourced from India met every regulatory jot and tittle.

It isn't just Gibson that is sweating. Musicians who play vintage guitars and other instruments made of environmentally protected materials are worried the authorities may be coming for them next.

If you are the lucky owner of a 1920s Martin guitar, it may well be made, in part, of Brazilian rosewood. Cross an international border with an instrument made of that now-restricted wood, and you better have correct and complete documentation proving the age of the instrument. Otherwise, you could lose it to a zealous customs agent—not to mention face fines and prosecution.

John Thomas, a law professor at Quinnipiac University and a blues and ragtime guitarist, says "there's a lot of anxiety, and it's well justified." Once upon a time, he would have taken one of his vintage guitars on his travels. Now, "I don't go out of the country with a wooden guitar."

The tangled intersection of international laws is enforced through a thicket of paperwork. Recent revisions to 1900's Lacey Act require that anyone crossing the U.S. border declare every bit of flora or fauna being brought into the country. One is under "strict liability" to fill out the paperwork—and without any mistakes.

It's not enough to know that the body of your old guitar is made of spruce and maple: What's the bridge made of? If it's ebony, do you have the paperwork to show when and where that wood was harvested and when and where it was made into a bridge? Is the nut holding the strings at the guitar's headstock bone, or could it be ivory? "Even if you have no knowledge—despite Herculean efforts to obtain it—that some piece of your guitar, no matter how small, was obtained illegally, you lose your guitar forever," Prof. Thomas has written. "Oh, and you'll be fined $250 for that false (or missing) information in your Lacey Act Import Declaration."

Consider the recent experience of Pascal Vieillard, whose Atlanta-area company, A-440 Pianos, imported several antique Bösendorfers. Mr. Vieillard asked officials at the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species how to fill out the correct paperwork—which simply encouraged them to alert U.S. Customs to give his shipment added scrutiny.

There was never any question that the instruments were old enough to have grandfathered ivory keys. But Mr. Vieillard didn't have his paperwork straight when two-dozen federal agents came calling.

Facing criminal charges that might have put him in prison for years, Mr. Vieillard pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count of violating the Lacey Act, and was handed a $17,500 fine and three years probation.

Given the risks, why don't musicians just settle for the safety of carbon fiber? Some do—when concert pianist Jeffrey Sharkey moved to England two decades ago, he had Steinway replace the ivories on his piano with plastic.

Still, musicians cling to the old materials. Last year, Dick Boak, director of artist relations for C.F. Martin & Co., complained to Mother Nature News about the difficulty of getting elite guitarists to switch to instruments made from sustainable materials. "Surprisingly, musicians, who represent some of the most savvy, ecologically minded people around, are resistant to anything about changing the tone of their guitars," he said.

You could mark that up to hypocrisy—artsy do-gooders only too eager to tell others what kind of light bulbs they have to buy won't make sacrifices when it comes to their own passions. Then again, maybe it isn't hypocrisy to recognize that art makes claims significant enough to compete with environmentalists' agendas.

DemonGeminiX
08-26-2011, 01:48 PM
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AntZ
08-26-2011, 02:18 PM
I know I'll sleep better now that musicians won't have a fine piece of trim on their guitar! :rolleyes:

FBD
08-26-2011, 04:26 PM
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FBD
08-28-2011, 06:36 PM
:-k

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110826/NEWS01/308260088/Gibson-Guitar-chief-denies-wrongdoing-after-raids



Gibson Guitar Corp. CEO Henry Juszkiewicz seethed at the federal government Thursday, one day after agents raided the iconic luthier for the second time in less than two years.

U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service agents believe Gibson is illegally smuggling wood from India to make fretboards, according to a search warrant unsealed Thursday.

Hundreds of items were seized from Gibson’s Nashville facilities including rosewood and ebony in various forms, shipping documents, travel records, guitars including several Les Pauls, product specifications and hard drives, according to the search warrant. A Memphis facility was also raided Wednesday.

Juszkiewicz said the lost day of productivity could cost the company $1 million.

“What is more troubling is that the Justice Department’s position is that any guitar that we ship out of this facility is potentially obstruction of justice and will be followed with criminal charges,” said Juszkiewicz, who added later that he plans to defy the government and resume operations. “I have taken personal responsibility. I have instructed our staff to continue building product.”

Juszkiewicz denied any wrongdoing. He said the wood materials seized Wednesday are certified by the Forest Stewardship Council, a third-party organization that promotes responsible forest management. According to the search warrant, however, federal authorities aren’t concerned with the way the wood was harvested, but the way it was imported to the United States.

On June 27, authorities in Dallas seized a shipment that arrived by air and included 1,250 sawn Indian ebony wood logs. The logs were cut to a size that could be used to make fretboards, but were unfinished. According to a federal affidavit, Indian law prohibits wood in this form from being exported and the federal Lacey Act requires American importers to obey foreign laws pertaining to the export of plants and woods.

Various shipping documents misrepresented the package’s contents, according to the affidavit. One document said the shipment included veneer sheets of wood less than 6 millimeters — the type of materials that would be used to build guitar bodies, not fretboards — and another labeled the shipment as “finished products of musical instruments,” according to the affidavit.

Juszkiewicz bristled at the notion that Gibson could import fretboards finished by Indian workers, but that allowing partially finished fretboards to be completed by American workers is illegal.

“Over the last two years, we have hired 580 American workers,” he said. “We are one company that is manufacturing in the United States, that is hiring people ... and yet the government is spending millions of dollars on this issue.

“We feel totally abused.”

Gibson has not been charged criminally. The government filed a still-pending civil forfeiture lawsuit against Gibson following the seizure of Madagascar wood products in 2009.

Nicholas Chavez, a New Mexico-based Fish and Wildlife Service agent, said investigators also presented a criminal case to the Justice Department after the 2009 raid. While no charges have yet to be filed, federal prosecutors in Nashville recently asked a judge to temporarily suspend the civil case while a criminal investigation is pursued.





Gibson:

The Federal Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. has suggested that the use of wood from India that is not finished by Indian workers is illegal, not because of U.S. law, but because it is the Justice Department’s interpretation of a law in India. (If the same wood from the same tree was finished by Indian workers, the material would be legal.) This action was taken without the support and consent of the government in India.

On August 24, 2011, around 8:45 a.m. CDT, agents for the federal government executed four search warrants on Gibson’s facilities in Nashville and Memphis and seized several pallets of wood, electronic files and guitars. Gibson had to cease its manufacturing operations and send workers home for the day, while armed agents executed the search warrants. Gibson has fully cooperated with the execution of the search warrants.

The fact that the government would issue warrants based on their interpretation of another country’s laws is laughable–and scary–in and of itself, but that they would demonize an American, non-unionized (coincidentally, I’m sure) company for something that isn’t even a crime (especially not in the American lawbooks) is a gross misjustice. Keep in mind that the Indian government itself wasn’t involved in the Gibson warrants and raid.


http://landmarkreport.com/andrew/2011/08/ceo-of-gibson-guitar-a-republican-donor/

...Henry E. Juszkiewicz, Gibson’s Chief Executive Officer, is a [large] donor to a couple of Republican politicians...

When warrants as ridiculous such as these are issued and executed, there appears no other reason than because the company or individual at hand is being targeted, not because there is any sort of wrongdoing. As a company, Gibson is a legendary. They’ve done nothing wrong, except, apparently, deigning to have a Republican CEO.

The plot thickens, however.

One of Gibson’s leading competitors is C.F. Martin & Company. The C.E.O., Chris Martin IV, is a long-time Democratic supporter, with $35,400 in contributions to Democratic candidates and the DNC over the past couple of election cycles. According to C.F. Martin’s catalog, several of their guitars contain “East Indian Rosewood.” In case you were wondering, that is the exact same wood in at least ten of Gibson’s guitars.



The Gibson facility wasn’t raided over allegations of tax evasion, charges of embezzlement, or even something as drab as child labor. Not even close. It was raided over what the DOJ deems an inability to follow a vague domestic trade law in India (one that apparently the Indian government didn’t seem too concerned about enforcing) regarding a specific type of wood. Not illegal wood, just wood with obscenely specific procedural guidelines.

Stand with Gibson: They have the Law on their side, just not the government.





"...Here’s an example. Let’s say you are driving a Bentley Flying Spur with a rosewood interior. Importation of Brazilian rosewood is a felony under the Lacey Act. Do you know where the rosewood in your Spur came from? Can you prove it? In Gibson’s case, it was Indian rosewood that supposedly caused the bust; although the importation of Indian rosewood is legal, it has to be finished and prepared to certain standards in India. If raw Indian rosewood is sent to Bentley for finishing into dashboards — and make no mistake, that is how it is done — it may not break any British laws, but it breaks an American one, and you are now a convicted felon for visiting the Canadian side of Niagara Falls and coming back. "

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oh, so this is simply another one of Holder's "selective applications of """""Justice""""" :pirate:

2012 is going to be great because not only will we have a new president, but we're going to have a Dept of Justice instead of our current Dept of Left Social Race Justice :x

FBD
08-30-2011, 11:49 AM
Amusing...it turns out that Michelle Obama is also guilty of violating the Lacey Act, just like Gibson :roll: I'm sure she'll be investigated, especially since there is documented evidence and photos :hand:

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/News/Michelle-Obama-French-406/

http://www.gibson.com/Files/aaFeaturesImages2009/michelle%20obama%20first%20lady%20guitar.png

ironically, it has that very "choice indian rosewood"

Acid Trip
08-30-2011, 04:10 PM
Haha, nice. So were all these woods banned due to deforestation?

Goofy
08-30-2011, 04:46 PM
Amusing...it turns out that Michelle Obama is also guilty of violating the Lacey Act, just like Gibson :roll: I'm sure she'll be investigated, especially since there is documented evidence and photos :hand:


ironically, it has that very "choice indian rosewood"

Every fucking thread....... you do realise discussions on this board can take place without mentioning the word Obama?

FBD
08-30-2011, 09:19 PM
Sorry I pointed out one among the multitude of hypocrisies that happens to coincide with the...topic...of the thread :mrgreen: So when there's a link....linksss....upon links upon linksss...if its entirely irrelevant, I can understand. Was this one? :-k

Sorry. Michele Obama is a fkn hypocrite, as is the majority of her husband's administration. I realize the one hand may not always know what the other is doing with these people (given the debacles, its pretty frackin apparent,) of course there's enough of them and the agenda coordination is probably a central message at best, but...people get pissed when government powers are utilized as political payback, its fkd up bs. And that is exactly what we have here...its exactly what we have with the boeing shit and the unions...the automakers...fkn illegal aliens, healthcare, the list is just disgusting. and disgustingly large.

How can you not say that this Justice Department is fulfilling some collection of sonsabiches' pet wishes? They're certainly not going by the letter of the law unless it happens to coincide with what's on their agenda.

MrsM
08-30-2011, 09:35 PM
Sorry I pointed out one among the multitude of hypocrisies that happens to coincide with the...topic...of the thread :mrgreen: So when there's a link....linksss....upon links upon linksss...if its entirely irrelevant, I can understand. Was this one? :-k

Sorry. Michele Obama is a fkn hypocrite, as is the majority of her husband's administration. I realize the one hand may not always know what the other is doing with these people (given the debacles, its pretty frackin apparent,) of course there's enough of them and the agenda coordination is probably a central message at best, but...people get pissed when government powers are utilized as political payback, its fkd up bs. And that is exactly what we have here...its exactly what we have with the boeing shit and the unions...the automakers...fkn illegal aliens, healthcare, the list is just disgusting. and disgustingly large.

How can you not say that this Justice Department is fulfilling some collection of sonsabiches' pet wishes? They're certainly not going by the letter of the law unless it happens to coincide with what's on their agenda.

What does this have to do with the thread? The Feds raided the place for potentially breaking the rules (of which the rules may not be clearly defined or even logical).

So Mrs O has a Gibson Guitar - that was probably given to her (or them) by the company. This should therefore be some magic idol that would prevent any future investigation into practices deemed wrong?

Not everything posted here needs to degrade into Obama bashing. Maybe it's just some paperwork SNAFU or misunderstanding that will get figured out.

Sure the Justice Dept are directed politically, but it would be pretty nieve to believe that this is anything new to this administration

Muddy
08-30-2011, 09:41 PM
Every fucking thread....... you do realise discussions on this board can take place without mentioning the word Obama?


:lol:

Pony
08-30-2011, 11:11 PM
What does this have to do with the thread? The Feds raided the place for potentially breaking the rules (of which the rules may not be clearly defined or even logical).

So Mrs O has a Gibson Guitar - that was probably given to her (or them) by the company. This should therefore be some magic idol that would prevent any future investigation into practices deemed wrong?

Not everything posted here needs to degrade into Obama bashing. Maybe it's just some paperwork SNAFU or misunderstanding that will get figured out.

Sure the Justice Dept are directed politically, but it would be pretty nieve to believe that this is anything new to this administration

Yep, that ^^^

Thank you. ;)