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Teh One Who Knocks
09-13-2011, 03:35 PM
By Henry Chu, Los Angeles Times


Reporting from Nailsea, England — Thanks to the movies, Americans who have never set foot in this country have a fair idea of what British schoolchildren look like.

From Harry Potter and his pals at Hogwarts to the glowing-eyed demon spawn of the '60s horror classic "Village of the Damned," the image is one of boys and girls neatly turned out in their matching school sweaters, trousers, skirts and ties.

But for some of today's non-magical, non-mutant students, a key piece of that picture is missing. Visit Nailsea School here in southwestern England, and about the only skirts you'll see are those on teachers; most of the girls on campus are required to dress like the boys, in standard-issue trousers, after the school amended its uniform policy this year to become a skirt-free zone.

It's a new approach to an old problem: the fight against rising hemlines, a perennial battle that probably brings back embarrassing memories for the mothers of many of today's schoolgirls.

Nailsea belongs to a small but growing number of schools in Britain that have given up chastising students for hemline creep and instead resorted to what one commentator calls "the nuclear option": blacklisting skirts altogether.

Sharna Griffin isn't happy about it.

Sure, some of her peers have cast modesty a bit too far to one side. "It is a bit of a problem, because we don't want to see their knickers. Walking up the stairs, you don't want to see whatever the girl's wearing under the skirt," the 15-year-old said.

But she thinks the ban smacks of collective punishment to students who obey the rules and don't let their regulation black skirts migrate much above the knee or disappear under their V-neck sweaters.

"I've never really been one to follow the crowd," Sharna said. "I don't think it's fair that the girls whose skirts are the correct length will not be able to wear them."

On the first two days of school, she showed up in a skirt in protest, only to be sent home early.

The decision at Nailsea and other schools to forbid skirts springs from the exasperation of administrators and teachers, who were tired of spending precious time forcing students to correct wardrobe malfunctions instead of getting them to ponder the Norman Conquest.

Girls who might've kissed their parents goodbye in the morning looking like paragons of virtue were arriving on campus with their skirts bunched up at the waist and drastically shortened. One headmaster in western England complained that his female students wore skirts that were "almost like belts," while a headmaster in a Scottish border town warned that the girls' increasingly revealing attire risked encouraging "inappropriate thoughts" among the boys.

Better to establish an environment that focuses attention on learning, not legs, than to maintain the status quo for the sake of tradition, educators say.

In general, there is little debate in this country over obliging children to wear uniforms to school, unlike in the United States, where the matter often becomes the subject of a fierce argument over civil liberties and freedom of expression.

Much of the relaxed attitude here may simply be a function of how long school uniforms have been a fixture on the British cultural and academic landscape.

By some accounts, the world's first school uniform debuted in England about 450 years ago at Christ's Hospital, a school for needy boys. Pupils at the now-private (and expensive) institution still deck themselves out much as they did in Tudor times, in dark blue overcoats, breeches for boys, pleated skirts for girls, white neckerchiefs, yellow socks and leather belts.

Although they resemble young seminarians, students voted overwhelmingly last year to keep their distinctive outfits rather than adopt any "modern" innovations.

Disputes over uniforms in Britain therefore have more to do with their specifications, not their existence. For campuses that have nixed skirts, grumbling has mainly come from parents and girls who want to have a choice between trousers and skirts, not scrap regulations altogether.

Educators say combating the rise of hemlines isn't about prudery but preventing the sexualization of children at ever-younger ages.

At publicly funded Nailsea School, where girls previously could choose between skirts and trousers, headmaster David New created a stir two years ago by banning trousers put out by a label called Miss Sexy.

"They were very low, hipster-style, very tight trousers. Staff were becoming embarrassed by seeing too much of the girls instead of the uniform," said New, who supervises 1,200 students in this commuter town outside the city of Bristol.

During the last school year, campus officials warned that skirts faced the chop as well for all 11- to 16-year-old girls if they couldn't manage to keep them at the specified length of just above the knee or lower. (Older girls in the school's "sixth form," the college-prep division, are exempt from wearing uniforms.)

When things didn't improve, school officials decided in May to make good on their threat. The new policy came into effect at the beginning of the new school year this month.

"I suspect that, teenagers being teenagers, there will be a new uniform violation that becomes the habit," New said resignedly. "That was true when I was at school, and I'm sure it was true when my father was at school."

Still, an outright ban on skirts seemed the best option.

"We didn't want to waste any more time on it," New said. "It just means that teachers can concentrate on what's important in education."

Even if the lesson turns out to be about history repeating itself.

PorkChopSandwiches
09-13-2011, 03:40 PM
:worthless:

KevinD
09-13-2011, 03:42 PM
:worthless:

+2

Softdreamer
09-13-2011, 03:48 PM
you want to see pics of schoolgirls in trousers???

KevinD
09-13-2011, 03:55 PM
Well, with the right trousers....sure...lol

redred
09-13-2011, 04:10 PM
this school is just outside bristol so seen this story a lot in the local papers and have to agree with what the school is doing

Teh One Who Knocks
09-13-2011, 04:26 PM
this school is just outside bristol so seen this story a lot in the local papers and have to agree with what the school is doing

You wouldn't think so if you were a teenage boy going to that school right now :nono:

Noilly Pratt
09-13-2011, 04:41 PM
I lived in England in 1990 and I noticed that the skirts were shorter than over here even then. And the "nightclub" clothes were a real eye-opener.

Could it also be cultural now that a few generations have had their go at being teenagers and having all this repressed energy, and not really knowing exactly what you're advertising to the opposite sex by wearing provocative clothing?

Joebob034
09-13-2011, 05:47 PM
no pants! :cheerlead:

redred
09-13-2011, 06:39 PM
You wouldn't think so if you were a teenage boy going to that school right now :nono:

agree but i'm a grown up now and looking at school girls isn't ok

http://i.imgur.com/UAfUw.jpg

Teh One Who Knocks
09-13-2011, 06:44 PM
He's gay :hand:

Hal-9000
09-13-2011, 06:48 PM
I saw two young girlies at a bustop last weekend and they were both wearing miniskirts that were waaaay too short.

About the 10th time I drove by, I should have mentioned that politely :oops:

PorkChopSandwiches
09-13-2011, 06:50 PM
:lol:

Muddy
09-13-2011, 06:50 PM
No pics yet?

*presses report bad post button*

KevinD
09-13-2011, 06:52 PM
LOOKING is fine imho Touching or anything else, not so much. lol

samarchepas
09-13-2011, 06:57 PM
LOOKING is fine imho Touching or anything else, not so much. lol

That's how I see it but I'd say BAD instead of "not so much" :lol:

Hal-9000
09-13-2011, 07:04 PM
LOOKING is fine imho Touching or anything else, not so much. lol

I can admit it...I go to jail in my mind every weekend I see tighties dressed to the 9's....they have no shame in my neighborhood :lol:

KevinD
09-13-2011, 07:11 PM
Okay, I'll be more blunt:


Good: Whiplash from checking out the teen babe in bikini or skirt.
Bad: Offering to take said bikini/skirt off.


Clear? lol

I AM a DOM y'know. haha

Teh One Who Knocks
09-13-2011, 07:17 PM
I can admit it...I go to jail in my mind every weekend I see tighties dressed to the 9's....they have no shame in my neighborhood :lol:

Exactly....plus, when you see these girls out and about, you don't know if they are 16 or 26 half the time with the way they dress and make themselves up.

redred
09-13-2011, 07:21 PM
remember brit girls stop school at 16 ,the girls age range in the story is 11-16 and i agree they do tart themselfs up to look well above there age

KevinD
09-13-2011, 07:23 PM
ACH, forgot about the age difference in UK Red....When I say teens, I'm generally thinking 16-18. Again, would never do anything with one, but sometimes eye candy is just that...lol

redred
09-13-2011, 07:24 PM
:lol: just reminding folk

Teh One Who Knocks
09-13-2011, 07:24 PM
remember brit girls stop school at 16 ,the girls age range in the story is 11-16 and i agree they do tart themselfs up to look well above there age

Stop school at 16? :-s

No wonder Americans are smarter :dance:






:nana:

Acid Trip
09-13-2011, 07:27 PM
Here's a pic...

http://www.frombearcreek.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/short-short-skirts-005.jpg

redred
09-13-2011, 07:28 PM
what they can start benefits at 16 ,free house and beer and fag money all round

Muddy
09-13-2011, 07:29 PM
Here's a pic...

http://www.frombearcreek.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/short-short-skirts-005.jpg

God and Baby Jesus...

KevinD
09-13-2011, 07:38 PM
Here's a pic...

http://www.frombearcreek.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/short-short-skirts-005.jpg

Yep those were some good pics. Unfortunately, they've been around so long, the two girls are probably old and fat (like the rest of us)

Hal-9000
09-13-2011, 07:40 PM
Okay, I'll be more blunt:


Good: Whiplash from checking out the teen babe in bikini or skirt.
Bad: Offering to take said bikini/skirt off.


Clear? lol

I AM a DOM y'know. haha

So asking for ID would be bad? :lol:

I get the odd little lady saying hello to me in public and I really have to be careful about how I respond :oops:

PorkChopSandwiches
09-13-2011, 07:46 PM
I went to a high school water polo tournament last weekend. Its co-ed and holy god mother mary sweet baby jesus. Swimmers bodys, all tanned and running around in bathing suits. I had to leave after the first round :lol:


And that was just the ones in speedos ;)

KevinD
09-13-2011, 07:48 PM
Non, non, mon frere...

Asking for ID is MANDATORY! lol

Teh One Who Knocks
09-13-2011, 07:49 PM
So asking for ID would be bad? :lol:

I get the odd little lady saying hello to me in public and I really have to be careful about how I respond :oops:

Just ask them if they are allowed to drive alone after dark, or who they voted for in the last election :)

redred
09-13-2011, 08:42 PM
you're allowed to poke the monkey after they're 16 over but they still can't drive or vote

PorkChopSandwiches
09-13-2011, 08:43 PM
:dance:

Teh One Who Knocks
09-13-2011, 08:55 PM
you're allowed to poke the monkey after they're 16 over but they still can't drive or vote

Not in the United States :nono:

PorkChopSandwiches
09-13-2011, 08:59 PM
Not in the United States :nono:


Depends on the state


State laws
Each US state has its own age of consent. Currently state laws set the age of consent at 16, 17 or 18. The most common age is 16.[43]

age of consent 16 (31): Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia

age of consent 17 (8): Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Texas

age of consent 18 (12): Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America

Hal-9000
09-13-2011, 09:24 PM
In Canada the age of consent is - are you drunk enough? You are?

Excellent..

deebakes
09-13-2011, 11:33 PM
:zombie:

Hal-9000
09-14-2011, 01:02 AM
Here's a pic...

http://www.frombearcreek.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/short-short-skirts-005.jpg

I can't stop looking at the pic...


OMG Chris Hansen is gonna visit me :(

KevinD
09-14-2011, 01:15 AM
iirc, these girls were over 18 at the time of the pics. There was a series of about 10 pics in total.

Hal-9000
09-14-2011, 01:19 AM
iirc, these girls were over 18 at the time of the pics. There was a series of about 10 pics in total.

LINK TO GALLERY????








sorry, that was my outloud texting voice wasn't it? :oops:

Teh One Who Knocks
09-14-2011, 01:21 AM
I posted that whole set ages ago back at AS

KevinD
09-14-2011, 01:26 AM
Yeah, sorry Hal, the pics are at least 5 years old. Have no clue where they'd be now.

Hal-9000
09-14-2011, 01:33 AM
I posted that whole set ages ago back at AS

well dig up the archive then! :x

Hal-9000
09-14-2011, 01:35 AM
Yeah, sorry Hal, the pics are at least 5 years old. Have no clue where they'd be now.

no worries..I'll just google 'chicks in miniskirts that I could go to jail for rubbing my willie across their faces in public'

Teh One Who Knocks
09-14-2011, 01:36 AM
well dig up the archive then! :x

I have 8 HDD's worth of stuff stgored up :-s

Hal-9000
09-14-2011, 02:12 AM
I have 8 HDD's worth of stuff stgored up :-s

Warehouse 14 FFS :lol:

Softdreamer
09-14-2011, 11:32 AM
Dont say I never do anything for you guys...

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http://img146.imagevenue.com/loc565/th_998087960_short_short_skirts_005_123_565lo.jpg (http://img146.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998087960_short_short_skirts_005_123 _565lo.jpg) http://img191.imagevenue.com/loc130/th_599808981_short_short_skirts_006_123_130lo.jpg (http://img191.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=599808981_short_short_skirts_006_123 _130lo.jpg) http://img184.imagevenue.com/loc812/th_998093326_short_short_skirts_007_123_812lo.jpg (http://img184.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998093326_short_short_skirts_007_123 _812lo.jpg)
http://img177.imagevenue.com/loc33/th_998095577_short_short_skirts_010_123_33lo.jpg (http://img177.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998095577_short_short_skirts_010_123 _33lo.jpg) http://img247.imagevenue.com/loc440/th_998098613_short_short_skirts_011_123_440lo.jpg (http://img247.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998098613_short_short_skirts_011_123 _440lo.jpg) http://img226.imagevenue.com/loc493/th_998100102_short_short_skirts_012_123_493lo.jpg (http://img226.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998100102_short_short_skirts_012_123 _493lo.jpg)
http://img279.imagevenue.com/loc476/th_998103395_short_short_skirts_014_123_476lo.jpg (http://img279.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998103395_short_short_skirts_014_123 _476lo.jpg)


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Joebob034
09-14-2011, 05:51 PM
the high school I went to is right down the street from where I live and there are days when I drive past it and see some of the girls walking from it and think "High school girls should not look like that and they sure as shit didn't look like that when I went there."

DemonGeminiX
09-14-2011, 05:54 PM
I have 8 HDD's worth of stuff stgored up :-s


:-s

You have a hard time with letting things go, don't you?

Hal-9000
09-14-2011, 05:55 PM
Dont say I never do anything for you guys...

http://img141.imagevenue.com/loc351/th_998081939_short_short_skirts_015_123_351lo.jpg (http://img141.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998081939_short_short_skirts_015_123 _351lo.jpg) http://img131.imagevenue.com/loc159/th_998083132_1295685885_02_123_159lo.jpg (http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998083132_1295685885_02_123_159lo.jp g) http://img101.imagevenue.com/loc234/th_998085750_1295685893_20_123_234lo.jpg (http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998085750_1295685893_20_123_234lo.jp g)
http://img146.imagevenue.com/loc565/th_998087960_short_short_skirts_005_123_565lo.jpg (http://img146.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998087960_short_short_skirts_005_123 _565lo.jpg) http://img191.imagevenue.com/loc130/th_599808981_short_short_skirts_006_123_130lo.jpg (http://img191.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=599808981_short_short_skirts_006_123 _130lo.jpg) http://img184.imagevenue.com/loc812/th_998093326_short_short_skirts_007_123_812lo.jpg (http://img184.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998093326_short_short_skirts_007_123 _812lo.jpg)
http://img177.imagevenue.com/loc33/th_998095577_short_short_skirts_010_123_33lo.jpg (http://img177.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998095577_short_short_skirts_010_123 _33lo.jpg) http://img247.imagevenue.com/loc440/th_998098613_short_short_skirts_011_123_440lo.jpg (http://img247.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998098613_short_short_skirts_011_123 _440lo.jpg) http://img226.imagevenue.com/loc493/th_998100102_short_short_skirts_012_123_493lo.jpg (http://img226.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998100102_short_short_skirts_012_123 _493lo.jpg)
http://img279.imagevenue.com/loc476/th_998103395_short_short_skirts_014_123_476lo.jpg (http://img279.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=998103395_short_short_skirts_014_123 _476lo.jpg)


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thanks Softy...something about those girls in that set that gets hal jr. excited

Hal-9000
09-14-2011, 05:57 PM
:-s

You have a hard time with letting things go, don't you?

tubgirl pics, meatspin full movies, goatse pics & vids...and all of that 80's ghey porn does take up a fair amount of space....

deebakes
09-15-2011, 01:20 AM
tubgirl pics, meatspin full movies, goatse pics & vids...

:drool: