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Teh One Who Knocks
09-20-2011, 11:55 PM
By MARGARET WENTE - The Globe and Mail


When my friend Brian told me the American tax police were after him, I thought he must be nuts. Brian is a worrier. He gets a little paranoid sometimes. “We haven’t filed a U.S. tax return in 20 years,” he said. “Now our accountant says we have to – or else.”

Brian and his wife are from the States. He took out Canadian citizenship years ago. They’ve lived and worked in Canada for decades. They have no U.S. income or assets. They are 100-per-cent tax compliant – in Canada.

“Forget about it,” I advised. “What could they possibly do to you?”

We’re about to find out.

I’m on the IRS hit list, too. I came here at 13, and I’ve been a citizen since 1979. I don’t have a U.S. passport or any U.S. earnings. But the IRS wants to confiscate a large chunk of my retirement savings. Many of my friends are in the same fix. They send me e-mails saying things like, “Have you filled out the FBAR [Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts] yet?” The amnesty deadline has come and gone, and we still have no idea what to do.

“It’s not the back taxes that will kill you,” Brian told me. “It’s the penalties.” It turns out the IRS can fine you for every unreported bank account, mutual fund and RRSP – at a rate of $10,000 per offence per year. It can also confiscate as much as 25 per cent of the maximum amount you’ve held in each account. This is so absurd it can’t possibly be true. But it is.

The Americans have an unusual view of citizenship. Once an American, always an American, even if you left the U.S. the day you were born. The U.S. is the only country that requires its citizens to file a tax return and report their worldwide income, no matter where they live and what other citizenship they hold. Nobody can explain why the IRS has suddenly decided to enforce this law, which is aimed at money-launderers with offshore bank accounts. I guess the Americans need the money.

Naturally, my friends and I are outraged. It’s confiscatory and extraterritorial. It’s taxation without representation. It’s also a clear violation of privacy laws. (By 2014, Canadian financial institutions will be required to disclose your name if you were born in the U.S.) So why comply? Because if you don’t, they can refuse to let you into the U.S.

You can understand why I’m curled up in the fetal position. “I’m not going to do it,” I told my husband. “You have to do it, “ he said. “If you don’t, someone will rat you out and you’ll never be able to visit your sister again.”

He had a point. So I called our accountant. “Do I have to do it?” I wailed. “I can’t advise you,” he said. He told me that I might be able to get off the hook for only a few thousand dollars. “Can they come after me for more?” I asked. “Yes,” he said. “Nobody knows what they’ll do.”

One person who’s off the hook is my brother. He was 11 when we moved to Canada. At 17, he got a draft notice. So he renounced his citizenship (after a long lecture from a consular official). I suppose I could renounce, too – but they won’t let you do that until you’ve filed your back tax returns.

As many as a million U.S.-born residents of Canada are caught in this Kafkaesque nightmare. Finance Minister Jim Flaherty has written an indignant letter to leading U.S. newspapers. All of us are getting wildly conflicting professional advice. At first, Brian and his wife, who are by no means wealthy, decided to come clean. But when they were told they’d be on the hook for $250,000, they changed their minds.

“Don’t write about this,” my husband warned me. “You’ll just make yourself a target.”

Southern Belle
09-20-2011, 11:58 PM
Hmmm, hope they don't give my husband a hard time. He's so much more "compliant" than me.

DemonGeminiX
09-21-2011, 12:24 AM
:redx:

DemonGeminiX
09-21-2011, 12:25 AM
:-k

That's her sig, isn't it?

Teh One Who Knocks
09-21-2011, 12:27 AM
Huh? :confused:

Griffin
09-21-2011, 12:32 AM
damn Canadians. sitting up there all smug as they break a seal on a Canadian Club. toking away while they correct us in the pronunciation as touque.

...and what's up with that "pom-pom" on top of their night cap anyway?

DemonGeminiX
09-21-2011, 12:33 AM
Huh? :confused:

Belle's sig isn't showing up for me. I mistakenly thought she posted a pic along with her response.

Teh One Who Knocks
09-21-2011, 12:36 AM
Belle's sig isn't showing up for me. I mistakenly thought she posted a pic along with her response.

Ohhhhhh....I see nothing, not even a red x, i have the missing pic placeholder thingy turned off in FF

deebakes
09-21-2011, 12:56 AM
:rip: lance

Godfather
09-21-2011, 02:47 AM
I don't get it.... how can they possibly claim any taxes are due??

The Canadian government should be protecting its citizens from harassment like this, and should governments around the world wherein former US citizens reside and are being pestered. If they were dual citizenship or hadn't made the full change I'd understand... but being here since age 11 and 13 and relinquishing US citizenship? The IRS is harassing almost complete foreigners.

We're half a trillion dollars in debt too... go find your money somewhere else :lol:

Watch though... we're probably doing the same thing to US citizens :rofl: Tax men are a mess.

MrsM
09-21-2011, 02:58 AM
I have not heard of this - but I deal with a different tax area... so I am no expert here

Softdreamer
09-21-2011, 09:58 AM
America seems to be a bit OTT when it comes to seizure of property and finances, I can understand the need to stop tax avoiders, but ive read some scary shit about how little info they need to get away with what would be classed in many countries as theft.


http://www.forbes.com/2011/06/08/property-civil-forfeiture.html

and while you are all panicking about the deficit these laws seem to be being 'enforced' more and more. They are handy budget top ups for agencies and departments that are underfunded.

Southern Belle
09-21-2011, 10:13 AM
:redx:

:lol:

FBD
09-21-2011, 11:03 AM
Nobody can explain why the IRS has suddenly decided to enforce this law

really? I'll betcha I can :dance:

Acid Trip
09-21-2011, 03:43 PM
There is a simple solution. When you leave the United States and become a citizen somewhere else YOU RENOUNCE YOUR US CITIZENSHIP. Problem solved.