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Teh One Who Knocks
09-23-2011, 01:17 PM
By Pamela Manson - The Salt Lake Tribune


Salt Lake City - Utah Supreme Court justices acknowledged Tuesday that they were struggling to wrap their minds around the concept that a 13-year-old girl could be both an offender and a victim for the same act - in this case, having consensual sex with her 12-year-old boyfriend.

The Ogden, Utah, girl was put in this odd position because she was found guilty of violating a state law that prohibits sex with someone under age 14. She also was the victim in the case against her boyfriend, who was found guilty of the same violation by engaging in sexual activity with her.

"The only thing that comes close to this is dueling," said Associate Chief Justice Michael Wilkins, noting that two people who take 20 paces and then shoot could each be considered both victim and offender.

And Chief Justice Christine Durham wondered if the state Legislature had intended the "peculiar consequence" that a child would have the simultaneous status of a protected person and an alleged perpetrator under the law.

The comments came in oral arguments on a motion asking the high court to overturn the finding of delinquency - the legal term in juvenile court for a conviction - against Z.C., who became pregnant after she and her boyfriend engaged in sex in October 2003.

State authorities filed delinquency petitions in July 2004, alleging that each had committed sexual abuse of a child, a second-degree felony if committed by an adult.

The girl appealed the petition, saying her constitutional right to be treated equally under the law had been violated.

Her motion noted that for juveniles who are 16 and 17, having sex with others in their own age group does not qualify as a crime.

Juveniles who are 14 or 15 and have sex with peers can be charged with unlawful conduct with a minor, but the law provides for mitigation when the age difference is less than four years, making the offense a misdemeanor.

For adolescents under 14, though, there are no exceptions or mitigation and they are never considered capable of consenting to sex.

A juvenile court judge denied the motion by Z.C., who then admitted to the offense while preserving her right to appeal to a higher court. The boy did not appeal.

The Utah Court of Appeals last December upheld the judge's refusal to dismiss the allegation, saying the law's "rigorous protections" for younger minors include protecting them for each other. Z.C. then appealed to the state Supreme Court.

At Tuesday's arguments, Matthew Bates, an assistant Utah attorney general, argued the prosecution of the girl was not unreasonable. He said the statute in question is designed to prevent sex with children who are 13 and younger, even if the other person is in the same age group.

By passing that law, legislators were sending a message, Bates said: Sex with or among children is unacceptable.

Randall Richards, the girl's attorney, argued that prosecuting children under a law meant to protect them is illogical.

"A child (victim) cannot also be a perpetrator in the exact same act," Richards said.

The Utah Supreme Court will issue a ruling later.

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PorkChopSandwiches
09-23-2011, 02:17 PM
Offs

Hal-9000
09-23-2011, 05:39 PM
if she sent him nudies pics she could also be a kiddie porn distributor :face:

PorkChopSandwiches
09-23-2011, 05:44 PM
and if she blew him she could have the charge of sodomy thrown in there :dance:

Hal-9000
09-23-2011, 05:46 PM
if she drove him home she could have driving without a license thrown in there too :dance:














oh..


:coat:

KevinD
09-24-2011, 08:08 AM
Jeebus, at 12, I was just figuring out that it felt really good to rub it when it got hard...

deebakes
09-24-2011, 03:34 PM
seems so young :shock:

Godfather
09-24-2011, 04:22 PM
Too young to be running around like that... what a mess.

But the law getting involved? No, they need to keep their greasy little fingers off this one. These kids need other kinds of support before they end up like the parents on Maury. Charging them as sex offenders and victims is a bunch of legal bullshit and I'm not sure who it benefits other than the prosecutors who put it on their resumes. :roll:

Their concerns should be the welfare and future of this person, not how fascinating they find this case study while pouring over legal tomes. Nerdy morons.

Loser
09-24-2011, 05:36 PM
Was 14 my first time, and she was 19 or 20 I believe :lol:

golfer
09-24-2011, 06:11 PM
all i can say is abuse of the legal system...

deebakes
09-25-2011, 05:44 AM
:worthless:

JoeyB
09-25-2011, 05:58 AM
Was 14 my first time, and she was 19 or 20 I believe :lol:

Don't let RBP know that, he'll freak out.


:worthless:

:slap::slap:

deebakes
09-25-2011, 04:28 PM
:dance: :cheerlead: