The Walking Dead/Fear the Walking Dead (Beware of Spoilers)

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the only one that actually died of the mysterious disease was the wheezing kid that started the zombie attacks in D block. :-k

[Hal-9000]

you may be right...I can't recall who died of the flu and who died because of having the flu...

they sure dug a lot of graves :-k

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I think most of those graves were for the people that got zombified or killed before getting zombified.

[Hal-9000]

I thought Isaac Hayes was a goner near the end....looks like he's ok :thumbsup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I thought the same thing, I thought when he got surrounded that he was gonna be done. Although, he still may have gotten bitten, all we saw was him emerge thru the trees and the zombies and make it over to the group, we never did see any good close-up of him at the end.

[Hal-9000]

If I was bitten I would get the best flesh colored band aid ever and keep quiet :lol:

[Griffin]

I couldn't help but notice at the end as they were driving down the country roads, that the the ditches and fields were better kempt than the road.

[Griffin]

...also the subdivision that Rick/Carol parked in was the same one that Shane/Andrea stopped when Shane was teaching Andrea how to shoot.
It was the same house at the end of the street.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Well, I have to say that I didn't see that coming :-k

[DemonGeminiX]

Rick kicking Carol out?

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Yeah, I didn't expect that at all.

[DemonGeminiX]

What did you think was gonna happen?

:-k

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I figured they would deal with it back at the prison...for someone (Rick) who didn't wanna be involved in making major decisions anymore, and then lectured Carol about the decision to burn those two people not being hers to make, he sure decided a big decision (leaving Carol behind) on his own.

[DemonGeminiX]

I think maybe he's getting ready to grab the reigns again.

For some odd reason, I thought what Rick mentioned would probably happen would actually happen... or maybe I wanted to see it happen:

Tyrese killing her.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Yeah, I guess maybe that was one reason that Rick didn't want to bring Carol back, because once Tyrese found out, Rick was right on when he said that he would kill Carol.

[DemonGeminiX]

Rick's gonna have to tell them why she didn't come back and why he kicked her out... Tyrese could go looking for her.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

That, or Tyrese could decide to try and kick Rick's ass again for not letting him at her. He specifically told Rick that if he found out who it was, Tyrese wanted that person brought right to him.

And I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Carol...at least I don't think we have.

[DemonGeminiX]

Yeah.

In other news, that little drunk moron is gonna end up getting somebody killed. I was screaming at Daryl to throw him off the roof.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Yeah, I really thought he was trying to save some medication the way he was fighting for that pack...then when they found out it was booze, Daryl should have just pushed him into the zombies horde below.

[Hal-9000]

I knew Michonne was macking on Daryl :dance:


and he's having no part of it :lol:

[Hal-9000]

Not sure how Rick thinks he can just arbitrarily tell Carol to go live in the wild....the group should make the decision

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Not sure how Rick thinks he can just arbitrarily tell Carol to go live in the wild....the group should make the decision

Exactly like I was saying 1 page back...Rick lectures Carol about killing the 2 infected people wasn't her call to make by herself....then Rick arbitrarily decided by himself to jettison Carol off on her own.

[Hal-9000]

going from farmer to despotic emperor in one show :thumbsup:

[DemonGeminiX]

Heeeeee's Baaaaaaaack!!!!!!!

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I wonder how it's gonna go when Rick tells Daryl that he banished Carol? :-k

Doesn't seem like Herschel or Maggie have a problem with it.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

With the giant herd of walkers breaching the fences and the revelation that the governor is outside the prison, I am definitely leaning towards there being a mole inside the prison working for the governor and that's the one that was feeding the zombies.

[Hal-9000]

so riddle me this Batman...

We were wondering if people with the flu became zombies....they did. So doesn't this sort of vindicate Carol?

[Hal-9000]

Carl stepping up was pretty cool...


stone cold killer by 10 years old ...He won't be too maladjusted when this is all over :lol:

[Hal-9000]

Heeeeee's Baaaaaaaack!!!!!!!


approach that fucker from the right hand side (patch side) and knife his damn skull

[Teh One Who Knocks]

so riddle me this Batman...

We were wondering if people with the flu became zombies....they did. So doesn't this sort of vindicate Carol?

She wasn't killing them to stop them from becoming zombies, she killed them to try and stop the spread of the flu. They weren't dead from the flu yet when she killed them.

[Hal-9000]

She wasn't killing them to stop them from becoming zombies, she killed them to try and stop the spread of the flu. They weren't dead from the flu yet when she killed them.

:-k oh

so she saved them money on flu shots and supplies?

[Hal-9000]

do you think Daryl was boning Carol?

[Teh One Who Knocks]

:-k oh

so she saved them money on flu shots and supplies?

:suspect:


do you think Daryl was boning Carol?

I don't think so, although I think they might have been getting close. So that's one big reason I don't think Daryl will be onboard with Team Rick about the decision to exile Carol.

[Griffin]

http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxMy04Y2M5NTU2ZmFmZDdhYWFm.png

[Hal-9000]

I love The Gov :tup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Excellent episode...one of the best of the season so far I think.

[Hal-9000]

Excellent episode...one of the best of the season so far I think.

yep, I liked it as well

[Teh One Who Knocks]

So do you think that by bonding with the family that the Governor has officially left Crazy Town and come back to reality? I'm thinking yes and that the reason he was outside the prison now was that he was leading his adopted family there. At least the little girl, when they were running from the walkers I kind of didn't see the 2 women anywhere around at the end.

[Hal-9000]

I don't know if that group is still with him...he may have reverted and either let them die...or he killed and ate them :lol:


I did like when he said - I lost my way.....


that guy is a great actor

[Teh One Who Knocks]

With him when? You mean when he eventually ends up outside the prison?

[Hal-9000]

yes

[Hal-9000]

http://i.imgur.com/5eAtEdL.gif

[DemonGeminiX]

So long, Martinez.

[Griffin]

I love The Gov :tup:

http://www.forexlive.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/hes-back.png

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Well, sure didn't take the Governor long to board the train back to Crazy Town.

[Hal-9000]

He sends a pretty strong message...you have to make decisions to survive and in doing that, you can't be a good guy



loved when he spotted Michonne :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I don't understand one thing though...when he was up on top of the RV with Martinez and he (Martinez) tells the Governor that maybe they can 'share the crown', that's when the Governor flipped out. And the whole time he was killing Martinez he kept saying "I don't want it".

Don't want what? To be partially in charge? To be in charge at all? Something else? :confused:

[Hal-9000]

I thought it was exactly that...to be in charge again. He won't tell anyone about Woodbury and the good things they had there...


yet he still assumed the partial mantle of responsibility anyways with the Fringe-guy :-k

[Teh One Who Knocks]

That's what I thought too, but by the end of the episode he was happily in charge again and looking for a new place....and that brought him to the prison.

[Hal-9000]

I think he realizes that people need help to stay alive but he doesn't want to be in charge of the group. They will be going after the prison for sure :tup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

See, I think the opposite...I think he wants to be back in charge, he was just in full out denial when he had his new makeshift family. Then he just 'snapped back' after killing Martinez and then killing the new guy in charge before taking on Fringe-guy as his new henchman.

And I too think he wants to try and take the prison again, but I dunno how he thinks he can do that since he tried two other times (with much more fire power) and failed both times.

[Hal-9000]

that little girl...Megan...is tweaking his brain. I think his daughter was around the same age

[DemonGeminiX]

that little girl...Megan...is tweaking his brain. I think his daughter was around the same age

His comment to his girlfriend: "I don't want to lose you again."

He's still off the reservation.

[Hal-9000]

His comment to his girlfriend: "I don't want to lose you again."

He's still off the reservation.

I love his character...the golf club scene actually made me LOL and exclaim - Teh Guv is back!

all alone in my house watching :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

:no:

[DemonGeminiX]

:rip: Herschel

[Fodster]

Cant remember where I am up to with these episodes. Where are they currently season/episode wise?

[Teh One Who Knocks]

:no:


:rip: Herschel

When they were all in the standoff and the Governor put the sword to Herschel's throat, I knew right there he was going to die :(


Cant remember where I am up to with these episodes. Where are they currently season/episode wise?

They just had the season 4 mid-season finale last night.

[Hal-9000]

GREAT episode last night

[Teh One Who Knocks]

:suspect:

[Hal-9000]

as soon as Hershel smiled during Rick's speech...I knew he would be lookin for work in the acting community :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Yeah, I knew he was a goner sadly :(

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I'm kinda disappointed that the Gov's g/f came and finished him off, I was looking forward to a zombie Governor later on down the line.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I didn't expect the little girl to get bitten...but man what a cold look on the Governor's face when he shot her in the head so she wouldn't turn.

[Hal-9000]

I'm kinda disappointed that the Gov's g/f came and finished him off, I was looking forward to a zombie Governor later on down the line.

thought the same....Invincible Zombie Governor! :dance:

[Hal-9000]

I didn't expect the little girl to get bitten...but man what a cold look on the Governor's face when he shot her in the head so she wouldn't turn.

Yep, no hesitation

[Hal-9000]

I didn't expect the little girl to get bitten...but man what a cold look on the Governor's face when he shot her in the head so she wouldn't turn.

That girl from The Unit had some good acting moments...the way she kinda cringed from his touch before they attacked the prison...when he shot her daughter and when she walked up to him at the end to kill him....I was impressed with her.

[DemonGeminiX]

So is baby Judith dead or did somebody collect her before they hightailed it outta there?

:-k

[Hal-9000]

So is baby Judith dead or did somebody collect her before they hightailed it outta there?

:-k

Bloody bassinet wasn't a good sign...


I kinda wanted to see some zombies gnawing on her lil head :lol:


:oops:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

So is baby Judith dead or did somebody collect her before they hightailed it outta there?

:-k


Bloody bassinet wasn't a good sign...


I kinda wanted to see some zombies gnawing on her lil head :lol:


:oops:

Since there was no body, I assume she's alive.

[Hal-9000]

One thing I really enjoyed......the intruders had a tank and the numbers....

and the prison people took them down :dance:

I especially liked Daryl throwing the grenade down the tank barrel

Daryl = cool

[DemonGeminiX]

Daryl getting attacked by a walker while his back is turned... cue commercial... we return to Daryl and the aforementioned walker, the walker now impaled, and Daryl's using him as a human shield.

I bet Chuck Norris was jealous.

[Hal-9000]

Daryl getting attacked by a walker while his back is turned... cue commercial... we return to Daryl using the aforementioned walker, now impaled and Daryl's using him as a human shield.

I bet Chuck Norris was jealous.

another great moment :tup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

So, even though the prison community has been fractured into several different groups, I am assuming since they had the 'escape plan' set up with the bus that they must most likely have a rendezvous point set up?

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I liked when Tyreese was pinned down and about to be killed and the little girls save him....with the one psycho girl killing the woman by shooting her square in the head :lol:

[Hal-9000]

So, even though the prison community has been fractured into several different groups, I am assuming since they had the 'escape plan' set up with the bus that they must most likely have a rendezvous point set up?

I would assume...

I liked when it pulled out leaving people there :lol:

[Hal-9000]

I liked when Tyreese was pinned down and about to be killed and the little girls save him....with the one psycho girl killing the woman by shooting her square in the head :lol:


:lol:




wasn't she the one who was initially scared etc? and her little sister was the strong one?

[Teh One Who Knocks]

:lol:




wasn't she the one who was initially scared etc? and her little sister was the strong one?

Yup, she was the one

[Griffin]

I'm wondering if the girls are the ones that killed Karen and fed the zombies rats. I think Carol was covering for someone when she admitted the killing.

[Hal-9000]

I'm wondering if the girls are the ones that killed Karen and fed the zombies rats. I think Carol was covering for someone when she admitted the killing.


Good theory and that would be interesting :thumbsup:

[DemonGeminiX]

That would be interesting, indeed.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

http://i.imgur.com/3qBkXA0.jpg

[Hal-9000]

:lol:

[Griffin]

Anybody else watching the marathon on AMC getting primed for tonight's return?

[Griffin]

Michonne definitely has tonight's head count.

[DemonGeminiX]

:rimshot:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

The g/f thought for sure Rick had turned towards the end in the scene with Carl....I told her no way, it was just a fake out, Rick was already wheezing earlier in the episode....I was right :cheers:

I know they kill off a lot of main characters in this show, but I would have to think that Rick is fairly safe.

[Hal-9000]

I liked last night's show...it set a mood and gave you a real sense of how alone they are.


and Michonne with that blade :tup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Excellent start to the 2nd half of the season :agreed:

It was sad for the writers to force us to watch Herschel 'die' again :(

[Hal-9000]

Did they really just leave The Governor laying there??????

I would have cut off his head, lit him on fire and snorted the ashes!


:zombie:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Did they really just leave The Governor laying there??????

I would have cut off his head, lit him on fire and snorted the ashes!


:zombie:

He already was stabbed thru the chest by Michonne and had a bullet to the head from his 'girlfriend'

[Hal-9000]

:sad2:

I was anticipating Governor-Zombie shambling around and then speaking... and organizing other zombies to build a town :)

[Griffin]

Lizzie is quite the little psychopath. I was wondering what was in the bloody log that Daryl and Beth passed but then we saw Lizzie butcher the bunnies there.
I thought she was going to do a Crazy Cora for a moment there.

[DemonGeminiX]

She's gonna be trouble.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

So, is Lizzie the one that was feeding the walkers at the prison way back in this season? Is she the one that gutted and displayed the dead rat that was found in the prison?

Like DGX said, she's gonna be real trouble somewhere down the line. The cold psychotic look in her eyes...

And I dunno if I would trust a sign posted on the train tracks advertising a 'sanctuary' with the name Terminus. Kinda has a foreboding finality to the name... :-k

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I see Carol isn't ready to confess her sins to Tyreese yet either....

[DemonGeminiX]

Tyrese would kill her and she knows it.

Lizzie: Given what she did to the rabbits, more than likely.

[DemonGeminiX]

Assuming Glenn gets back to the group with Tara, how are they going to treat her?

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Tyrese would kill her and she knows it.

She was sure brave when she was explaining her rationale behind doing it when she was with Rick. Now it shows her to be a coward.


Assuming Glenn gets back to the group with Tara, how are they going to treat her?

Hard to say, I think some will go one way with it, and some will go the other. Depends on how Glenn feels about her by the time (or if) the reach the rest of the group.

[DemonGeminiX]

Ha! The actress that plays Tara, Alanna Masterson is the younger sister of Danny Masterson, the guy that played Steven Hyde on That 70s Show, and Chris Masterson, who played Francis on Malcolm in the Middle.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

http://i.imgur.com/tC5pZHI.png

What do you think the purpose of the sign was? Is it foreshadowing about things to come (i.e. the three new people they showed briefly at the end of the episode) or just a little bit of irony with the fact that all the group members that walked past the sign last night were all refugees from the prison showdown? :-k

[Teh One Who Knocks]

http://i.imgur.com/iHf4qfW.jpg

How the hell is Beth relatively clean when everyone else from the group is downright filthy? :confused:

[DemonGeminiX]

http://i.imgur.com/tC5pZHI.png

What do you think the purpose of the sign was? Is it foreshadowing about things to come (i.e. the three new people they showed briefly at the end of the episode) or just a little bit of irony with the fact that all the group members that walked past the sign last night were all refugees from the prison showdown? :-k

It's a bit of irony. I know who the 3 are and given the fact that you don't want spoilers, well, you'll find out who they are.

[Griffin]

I think the sign is just to point out how small an area the group has been wandering around in and they keep crossing each others path.

[Hal-9000]

Another great episode :thumbsup:





I would sleep with Daryl given the chance

[Hal-9000]

http://i.imgur.com/txluOLf.jpg

[Hal-9000]

http://i.imgur.com/fzm8X4c.jpg

[DemonGeminiX]

http://i.imgur.com/txluOLf.jpg

Hahahahahaha

:lol:

[Hal-9000]

:lol:







I liked the little smile Carl gave when he admitted to finding food and eating it without sharing..

Rick - What did ya find?
Carl - 112 ounces of pudding

[Griffin]

Not much action tonight.
There have been hints in every season that Glenn should be leader. However tonight, (even though he hasn't realized it yet) he became that with a small group.
I don't think he will give up that title easily after having it.

[DemonGeminiX]

Nah, Glenn's not thinking of the group right now. His motivations are purely selfish. I'm not saying he couldn't lead, I'm just saying he's not doing it right now.

Sometimes I think Glenn has reservations about making decisions within a large group. I think he's better as a second in command.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I liked the episode.

[Hal-9000]

I thought Daryl was going to jump on that tightie after the booze :lol:

[Goofy]

Really liking this season so far (or second half of the season, whatever it is) :thumbsup:

[Hal-9000]

yeah showing them splitting up and going their separate ways is kinda cool....


Daryl crying was unexpected...when he was talking about The Governor just coming in and not being able to stop him....very touching

[DemonGeminiX]

:shock:

Holy fucking shit! Kill that little idiot psycho, Carol!

[DemonGeminiX]

Holy shit, this episode was so brutal.

:no:

[Griffin]

wow...

[Griffin]

she killed her little sister...just, to watch her turn

I can hear Johnny Cash singing that.

[DemonGeminiX]

How do you get passed that? I understand that you have to keep pressing on, but in the real non-zombie world, it would destroy just about anybody that was involved in that situation.

[Griffin]

In the non-zombie world world, Liberals would say she was just misunderstood and blame Carrol for letting her carry a gun.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

When it became apparent that Lizzie was totally aboard the bus to crazy town, me and the g/f both agreed that she had to be killed, and then when it got to the point that she killed her sister and said that she was about to kill Judith, we both knew they were going to kill her. There was no way you could keep her around, you couldn't be safe with that psychopath around ever.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I have to say that Tyrese took the news from Carol really well when she admitted to him she was the one that killed Karen :-k

[Hal-9000]

When it became apparent that Lizzie was totally aboard the bus to crazy town, me and the g/f both agreed that she had to be killed, and then when it got to the point that she killed her sister and said that she was about to kill Judith, we both knew they were going to kill her. There was no way you could keep her around, you couldn't be safe with that psychopath around ever.

I screened a pic of the younger daughter when they first approached the farm (when she said that Mom told her things always worked out). I was going to mention crazy comes in all forms, good and bad :lol:

that whole episode was getting dangerously close to cutesy territory but then redeemed itself wonderfully with Lizzie killing her sister and then Carol admitting her secret :thumbsup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I don't think it was cutesy per se, but I think it was done very well.

I'm guessing Tyrese took the news from Carol so well because after he saw Carol take Lizzie out and do what had to be done, Tyrese realized that it wasn't something that he would have been able to do, and that when Carol killed Karen and David, she was making that "hard decision" and thought that what she was doing was right, in her mind anyway, and it was for the greater good. And that's what killing Lizzie was, for the greater good, because there was no way that Lizzie could have ever been trusted again around living people. She was going to kill the baby FFS.

[Hal-9000]

it was cutesy up until that point :x

finding a farm with a pump, making tea (gas still works), Tyrese being all happy and content, Carol as the mom for 3 kids

it was cutesy right up until the last 10 minutes

[Teh One Who Knocks]

You're cutesy :hand:

[Hal-9000]

:x


One thing I love about this series is the feeling of quiet they portray in the world through cinematography and sound. When they go into a house or building, the air almost seems still..

other zombie shows never achieve this tactile sensation of a place being used up, or dead...

[Hal-9000]

by the way, these separate episodes featuring only a few characters each week are some of my favorites :thumbsup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

by the way, these separate episodes featuring only a few characters each week are some of my favorites :thumbsup:

Agreed, it's nice to be able to focus just on one group at a time.

[Hal-9000]

I have to say that Tyrese took the news from Carol really well when she admitted to him she was the one that killed Karen :-k

I think Tyrese weighed it out in his mind for a moment, then decided that he needed Carol for future...or like you mentioned, he needed someone to kill Lizzie


I really admire the writers for that episode last night, it was daring and edgy. Not too many shows would kill off two main characters that are both under 15...especially doing it that way.

[Hal-9000]

One thing I noticed when the zombies were at the fence...they had FOUR people with weapons, firing madly to get rid of what looked like 4 or 5 zombies.


Daryl would have taken them out with garden shears and still had time for a smoke after :thumbsup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

One thing I noticed when the zombies were at the fence...they had FOUR people with weapons, firing madly to get rid of what looked like 4 or 5 zombies.


Daryl would have taken them out with garden shears and still had time for a smoke after :thumbsup:

I made a similar comment to the g/f last night. I said they sure are wasting a whole lot of ammo on a half dozen or so walkers.

[Hal-9000]

the opening scene with the kettle on the stove and the girl through the window playing with the walker

Kind of a Norman Rockwell moment gone real bad.....loved it

[Teh One Who Knocks]

The fire....what was it? Was it Terminus? Will we ever find out? Obviously the barbecued walkers rambled over from the fire, so something happened over there, possibly with people over there. :-k

[Hal-9000]

The fire....what was it? Was it Terminus? Will we ever find out? Obviously the barbecued walkers rambled over from the fire, so something happened over there, possibly with people over there. :-k

I thought that was nice touch :lol: BBQ'd walkers...

I think it's Terminus

[DemonGeminiX]

The fire was the house Daryl and Beth torched. It goes to show that they might all be separated, but they're really not that far apart. They're just missing each other by a few miles and a half a day or more.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

The fire was the house Daryl and Beth torched. It goes to show that they might all be separated, but they're really not that far apart. They're just missing each other by a few miles and a half a day or more.

I forgot all about that :doh:

[Hal-9000]

The fire was the house Daryl and Beth torched. It goes to show that they might all be separated, but they're really not that far apart. They're just missing each other by a few miles and a half a day or more.

:oops: derp, me too...

I recall thinking when they lit up the house...how much of that surrounding forestland is going to go as well? :lol: They'll be waiting a loooong time for the firefighters to show up and air drops of water from helicopters

[Griffin]

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8069293312/h880DB5C6/

[Hal-9000]

:lol:



I loved the comment about Judith...she said she was just about to kill her and Carol says-She can't even walk yet....implying Lizzie should wait to turn the baby :lol: good tactic

[Goofy]

Just watched it, another belter of an episode! :D


The fire was the house Daryl and Beth torched. It goes to show that they might all be separated, but they're really not that far apart. They're just missing each other by a few miles and a half a day or more.


I forgot all about that :doh:


:oops: derp, me too...


Ditto :lol: Look at DGX, all clever n shit :lol:


https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8069293312/h880DB5C6/

:lol:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

http://i.imgur.com/B04WYUj.jpg

[Hal-9000]

she gonna be a pretty girl when she gets in her 20's


pretty psychotic :dance:

[DemonGeminiX]

:-k

Let's fix you a plate of what?

[Griffin]

Yeah, I hope it's not a camp of cannibals inviting survivors for dinner.

[DemonGeminiX]

She said, "Let's get you settled and we'll make you a plate."

Double meaning? It does kinda feel like they're trying to set up The Hunters, although the Hunters weren't settled in one place.

And now that I'm thinking about it, Maggie and Glenn burning that picture of Maggie sleeping and her saying "You'll never need that picture again" seems like foreshadowing.

I don't have a very good feeling about Beth's chances given all of the above.

We'll see what happens next week.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Yeah, I've had a bad feeling about Terminus the whole time and now that the first group has arrived, I definitely don't think it's a good place....

[Hal-9000]

They've been setting it up ominously...we all know something's not right

the thing that threw me was the open gates and only one person standing there...that would have scared me more than anything

In that world, NO ONE would put up a sign that says - Lower your weapons and c'mon in! :tup:



and the cannibal aspect is a great prediction ...like the old 50's sci-fi where the aliens had a book called - How To Serve Man :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Yes, the fact that the place was silent and desolate save for the one woman they came upon would have sent up all kinds of red flags for me.

[DemonGeminiX]

That Mary woman was played by Denise Crosby.... Star Trek TNG and Pet Sematary. She hasn't aged very well.

:lol:

[Hal-9000]

I'm embarrassed....what happened to split up Daryl and the cute blonde again? I can't remember

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I'm embarrassed....what happened to split up Daryl and the cute blonde again? I can't remember

She got kidnapped by an unknown person(s) when they were escaping the zombie horde at the country club....that looks like it was a set-up by said unknown person(s).

[Hal-9000]

She got kidnapped by an unknown person(s) when they were escaping the zombie horde at the country club....that looks like it was a set-up by said unknown person(s).

thanks..I think I got a bad copy of the ep that ended abruptly...can't recall that scene at all :oops:

[Hal-9000]

That Mary woman was played by Denise Crosby.... Star Trek TNG and Pet Sematary. She hasn't aged very well.

:lol:

I knew I recognized her :lol:

[Goofy]

the thing that threw me was the open gates

This^^

[Goofy]

Next week's the final episode of the season isn't it? The last 5 or 6 episodes have been awesome.......... gonna be a bastard of a wait until the new season :sad2:

[Hal-9000]

I'm sure I saw the little blondie who was with Daryl, on another show the other night...


The Following :-k

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I'm sure I saw the little blondie who was with Daryl, on another show the other night...


The Following :-k

That's who kidnapped her :tup:

[Hal-9000]

Joe Carroll is everywhere :shock:


that show is hitting the skids lately :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

It's become...odd. I thought this last episode was pretty good though...mostly. :lol:

[Hal-9000]

You've become too forgiving :lol:


get Joe some new followers who will do ANYTHING for a person they've never met, even go to prison for life....rinse/repeat

[Teh One Who Knocks]

It still has flashes of how good it can be :(

[DemonGeminiX]

That's who kidnapped her :tup:

:lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

:dance:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I just realized, this coming Sunday is the season finale of TWD :sad2:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I'm sure I saw the little blondie who was with Daryl, on another show the other night...


The Following :-k

Funny, I just checked her IMDB page and the page for The Following and she isn't credited in being in the series/episode at all :-k

[Hal-9000]

Funny, I just checked her IMDB page and the page for The Following and she isn't credited in being in the series/episode at all :-k

Remember the new 4 they elected to go out and kill random people? I'm sure it was the same girl, didn't catch the credits for the show

[Hal-9000]

restaurant girl..

[PorkChopSandwiches]

It was, we caught that too

[DemonGeminiX]

It was her.

I'm glad to see Natalie Zea's not dead. It made me sad when they said her character died in the beginning of the season. I like Natalie and have been missing her on Justified.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

:tup:

[Goofy]

Next week's the final episode of the season isn't it? The last 5 or 6 episodes have been awesome.......... gonna be a bastard of a wait until the new season :sad2:


I just realized, this coming Sunday is the season finale of TWD :sad2:

Try reading my posts and you'd find out sooner then [-( :sad2:

[Griffin]

Tyreese and Carol should have been close enough to hear the shots and saw where they were put.

[DemonGeminiX]

Beth's gonna come in, go all Commando Arnold and save them.

:tup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Beth's gonna come in, go all Commando Arnold and save them.

:tup:

:hand:

http://i.imgur.com/K5UH9R3.jpg

Beth's in there :thumbsup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I have to say, I really liked this whole season and I loved the finale. I don't know how I'll make it to October for the next season now :(

[Hal-9000]

Denise Crosby was wearin Beth's sweater when she was BBQ-ing :thumbsup:

[Hal-9000]

loved it...no weapons, captured in the train car, outnumbered and Rick - They're screwin with the wrong people :x



:tup:

[Hal-9000]

I liked the finale but there were a few things...

Welcome to Terminus, drop your weapons and then pick them back up again..

We leave all of our gates open yet no one has taken us over yet by force...

There's like 5 people there with guns yet you never see them...

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I think I was more disappointed last week when Glen and Maggie and company all just walked into Terminus without having their guard up at all. After everything they have been thru, I would have thought they would have been more cautious. Plus the distinct lack of people anywhere would have made me put my guard up as well.

Now at least Rick's group was more cautious when they went into Terminus on the finale, but it didn't do them much good after all. I think I would have staked the place out first before just going right in.

[Hal-9000]

him burying that bag of weapons will play a prominent role methinks :-k

[Teh One Who Knocks]

http://i.imgur.com/f2shyDB.jpg

[Teh One Who Knocks]

him burying that bag of weapons will play a prominent role methinks :-k

Yeah, most definitely...but I think I see the one flaw in his plan to get out and exact revenge. How the fuck are they gonna get out of the boxcar that's surrounded by armed people? :confused:

[Hal-9000]

extremely creative disguises and make mooing noises? :-k

[Hal-9000]

http://i.imgur.com/f2shyDB.jpg

Carl jest 'bout got raped last night...yep

I was waiting for that freak on top of him to make him squeal like a pig :lol:

[Hal-9000]

younger dude at work loves this show and works in a caged area of our building...


so now my morning greeting is - CAAAAAARL!!!


:lol:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Carl jest 'bout got raped last night...yep

I was waiting for that freak on top of him to make him squeal like a pig :lol:

No shit, that guy pulled off creepy

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Pretty good analysis on the finale:


'Walking Dead': Revisiting the Final Scene
by Tim Goodman - The Hollywood Reporter


http://i.imgur.com/86lpBWA.jpg

As someone who hasn't read the Walking Dead comic books -- just as I haven’t read George R.R. Martin’s books that form the basis for Game of Thrones -- I take in all the information simply as it’s doled out, without being privy to older nonshow references or working with the knowledge of what’s ahead.

But I didn’t want the finale and the group’s trek to Terminus and what that foreshadowed to slip away (the onslaught of Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Fargo and others is near) before revisiting it. When first introduced to Terminus -- at the end of a journey the season was leading viewers along -- I got the distinct feeling (as others did, or at least should have), that Terminus is no sanctuary. Rather, hints abounded that a modern-day Soylent Green story was unfolding.

And though it’s pretty clear there’s cannibalism going on at Terminus, the producers are being coy about it.

In the episode where Glenn and Maggie, etc., walked into the welcoming arms of Terminus, red flags were everywhere. The people at Terminus had an awful lot of meat, first of all. The grill -- with its willing grill-master -- was always framed prominently and was the first stop to gaining interior access to Terminus. Just by positioning it right there in the open, out front, the Walking Dead brain trust was making the grill and all that might conjure, a significant visual element. Then it was, "Hey, grab a plate, have yourself a meal. You’re welcome here." But was that meat from unseen calves or pigs -- or was that Beth, or others?

Of course Terminus seemed pretty desolate for a major destination meet-up for wandering survivors. The “Those Who Arrive Survive” signage would certainly indicate more people should be hanging around -- unless those people are surviving in spirit, as sustenance. And the Terminus explanation of why in the hell anyone would be so generous, letting in hordes of freeloaders -- “the more people become part of us, we get stronger” was certainly a big hint.

With a plethora of clues turning up, the one that probably sealed it was the quick shot (but not too quick) of what looked like the stripped carcasses of humans (and later an altar room to remember them for their sacrifice).

I’m fine with the cannibal notion -- it’s not revolutionary for the zombie genre and all through the series I've been wondering when the hungry hordes of survivors would finally go Hannibal on the weaker of their number. In the finale, so much portent about hunger and trapping was afoot. But I don’t think it was overkill -- the writers rather adeptly handled the storyline of Rick showing Carl how to trap a rabbit with the Terminus parallel hanging over it like a noose. Our group of plucky core members were being led, just like the rabbit, down a chute to their own demise.

Whereas my most nagging thought after the finale was how the hell Rick and company would get out of the cattle car and overtake a larger group of vastly better-armed adversaries, the actual scene that stuck in my head was the last five minutes of herding.

That was impressively done -- and made up for the literal last shot of Rick announcing revenge in an all-too-pat blockbuster movie kind of way.

In the scene, as the snipers are shooting at the feet of Rick and Daryl, etc., my initial reaction was a slight groan about the poor marksmanship so prevalent on TV and in movies -- but it then becomes clear that the shooters are missing on purpose. They're not trying to kill, they're trying to herd. It was the start of something that became really something to behold, not only for the execution itself but for the level of detail and research that went into it.

Alternatively shot from above -- emphasizing power and giving viewers a long shot of the railroad/cattle car at the top of the frame and the futility of Rick, Daryl, Michonne and Carl in the foreground -- we then got the crowning elements. Gareth, the leader of Terminus, is going to walk them to slaughter (though it’s important to remember this is all implied -- the finale made no hard nod toward cannibalism). Still, the scene all but seals it. If you research how cattle are killed, the optimum approach is to have them take a series of corner turns before getting close -- if they see they’re being led to slaughter, chaos ensues. The camera follows Rick and company in a circular route through Terminus until they get out into the clearing.

Cattle are also, as they near slaughter, guided in single file -- something Gareth did meticulously with each character, leading them to the railroad/cattle car in the short distance. There is also a “correct handler position for driving cattle” -- and director Michelle MacLaren set up the final scene by positioning Gareth in a perfect, textbook handler position.

She also created maximum tension by showing the distance between Carl, the last of the group to be herded toward the rail car, and Rick. The panic that arose on Rick’s face as Gareth forced him to be first while keeping Carl behind in a vulnerable position, was captured superbly by MacLaren. Proper handling procedures also indicate that calves go last (or, if you will, parents go first -- reversing it causes panic and a chance the cattle will disperse). And lastly, what the scene captured in a kind of haunting by-the-book approach, is that cattle go forward in a single-file line but shouldn’t actually see livestock in front of them -- which is why Glenn and Maggie and the others were shunted to the rear of the car.

All of that was both chillingly calculated and beautifully constructed (and the powdered milk containers -- clearly being used to fatten everybody up -- were a nice touch). I may have wished for a more dramatic cliff-hanger (a shoot-out, or perhaps reinforcements to use those guns Rick buried), but I did, especially on further inspection, appreciate the artistry in the construction of that finale scene.

Now all that’s left to find out when season five begins is who gets slaughtered -- or maybe who already has been slaughtered (and grilled).

[Hal-9000]

I agree with the write up above, most of it was obvious to me before reading. The title of the episode was 'A' and they were led into the train car designated A.

One of two reasons - A LISTERS, meaning they could be keepers and become part of the Terminus population, or GRADE A, a designation for prime beef for cooking :lol:

I was underwhelmed by the episode overall and saw Terminus as a ghost town, which didn't ring true with me. What I did like is we don't know the fate of Carol and Tyrese and Judith, plus Glen, Maggie and company.

I often think on some shows that contracts run out, people get other offers and that determines how the next season is written... along with the overall story arc the writers have in mind. Part of me does hope that some of the main characters get eaten...especially Judith the baby, because that would make Rick madder than snot and also get rid of the hindrance a baby would cause living in that world

[Teh One Who Knocks]

http://i.imgur.com/bSxkwcx.jpg

[Hal-9000]

Didn't Rick get put into a coma during the initial outbreak? :-s

[Goofy]

Didn't Rick get put into a coma during the initial outbreak? :-s

Pre-outbreak, he got shot remember :thumbsup:

[Hal-9000]

Pre-outbreak, he got shot remember :thumbsup:

I smoke weed, I can't remember what underwear I put on this morning :-s



:thumbsup:

[DemonGeminiX]

Comic-con trailer for the upcoming season


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4GAs9TJVjM

[Hal-9000]

Glen is in shit again :lol:

[Griffin]

Was that Beth that got punched by the cop toward the end?

[DemonGeminiX]

Looked like it was.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

It's back on this coming Sunday :cheers:

[Hal-9000]

CORAL! :(

[DemonGeminiX]

:cheerlead:

[DemonGeminiX]

Carol Rambo :thumbsup:

[DemonGeminiX]

:shock:

MORGAN!!! FUCK YEAH!!! :cheerlead:

[Griffin]

I see covering yourself in zombie gore is still working. (zombie's are apparently slow learners)

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Okay, I understand with the flashbacks that the people running Terminus were terrorized by an unknown/unspecified group of people, but what exactly makes you go from victim to a "hey, let's eat all newcomers cannibal' :wtf:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Carol Rambo :thumbsup:

Yeah, that was a little less than believable :lol:

[Hal-9000]

I thought Carol was great....once she disguised herself all that was needed was sniper rifle and that heat seeking, radar guided firework thingy :thumbsup:

[Hal-9000]

and you don't fuck with Rick and his stick :tup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I like when they had Rick and the guys at the trough and Gareth was asking Rick about the bag he hid in the woods and what was in it. And when Rick finally agreed to tell him what was in it and he was going thru the list of weapons and he came to the 'machete with a red handle.....and that's what I am going to use to kill you'

Badass Rick don't fuck around anymore :thumbsup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I thought Carol was great....once she disguised herself all that was needed was sniper rifle and that heat seeking, radar guided firework thingy :thumbsup:

Amazing that fireworks are so accurate :facepalm:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Okay, I understand with the flashbacks that the people running Terminus were terrorized by an unknown/unspecified group of people, but what exactly makes you go from victim to a "hey, let's eat all newcomers cannibal' :wtf:

That's a really good question :-k

[PorkChopSandwiches]

You cant quote yourself and give yourself props. :lol:

They made the comment to be the butcher or the cattler, Im guessing they took it to the next level as the food began running out.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Amazing that fireworks are so accurate :facepalm:

Hahahah I know, and shooting it again with a bullet to create a spark wouldn't have sufficed :roll:

[Hal-9000]

Amazing that fireworks are so accurate :facepalm:

Just had that discussion with a coworker...I said the same thing. His point - propane was escaping from a large tank and the firecracker only had to get close. I conceded because he loves The Walking Dead more than his children :lol:

[Hal-9000]

That's a really good question :-k

I think the flashbacks were sparse for a reason...really only showing the rape that chick was talking about (Denise Crosby).

We don't know how much time had passed since the original Terminus group started there vs the current management :-k

I believe we'll see some other flashbacks showing the transition there...

[Hal-9000]

Alrighty, my observation....I may have missed it but I didn't hear one person acknowledge the fact the Terminus group was cannibals or any reference to eating people.

At one point you'd think someone in Rick's group would say - Holy fuck, they are eating PEOPLES!!!! :shock:

[Hal-9000]

and here's another observation/guess...

Remember last season I said that the final episode and car was named "A", and was trying to determine what that referenced?

I thought it either meant - A, as in A-list people who would join the group to help survive or....A as in grade A beef. I think it meant the latter :lol:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Alrighty, my observation....I may have missed it but I didn't hear one person acknowledge the fact the Terminus group was cannibals or any reference to eating people.

At one point you'd think someone in Rick's group would say - Holy fuck, they are eating PEOPLES!!!! :shock:

I dont know if they knew yet
They make a reference to bleeding people out, and you see them doing that (like you would a pig)
Then you also see the kitchen area where you can see they have been "processing" people

[Hal-9000]

I dont know if they knew yet
They make a reference to bleeding people out, and you see them doing that (like you would a pig)
Then you also see the kitchen area where you can see they have been "processing" people

The bat 'n slice area in front of the trough would have tipped me off :lol: I would have thought - how come they just don't kill us after tying us up?

Yeah maybe they don't really understand about the butcher plant operations going on....that first scene with Denise Crosby last year in front of the giant BBQ gave me the chills :lol:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

I dont recall them eating the food offered either :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

You cant quote yourself and give yourself props. :lol:

They made the comment to be the butcher or the cattler, Im guessing they took it to the next level as the food began running out.

I can too :hand:

Yeah, it's one thing to say something like that, and it's absolutely another to take it literally and decide to eat all newcomers. You can be the 'butcher' and just kill them all without eating them FFS :lol:


Just had that discussion with a coworker...I said the same thing. His point - propane was escaping from a large tank and the firecracker only had to get close. I conceded because he loves The Walking Dead more than his children :lol:

Yeah, but the propane disperses pretty quickly, so that firework would still have needed to be pretty accurate to get right into the spray area from the hole in the tank. Like Porky said, it would have been much more believable for her to just shoot at the tank again and have a bullet cause a spark.


I think the flashbacks were sparse for a reason...really only showing the rape that chick was talking about (Denise Crosby).

We don't know how much time had passed since the original Terminus group started there vs the current management :-k

I believe we'll see some other flashbacks showing the transition there...

Will there be more flashbacks? Not sure how Terminus will figure into the story still since it's destroyed, overrun with walkers, and nearly all the people there were killed. :-k


Alrighty, my observation....I may have missed it but I didn't hear one person acknowledge the fact the Terminus group was cannibals or any reference to eating people.

At one point you'd think someone in Rick's group would say - Holy fuck, they are eating PEOPLES!!!! :shock:

I'm pretty sure they knew without saying anything


and here's another observation/guess...

Remember last season I said that the final episode and car was named "A", and was trying to determine what that referenced?

I thought it either meant - A, as in A-list people who would join the group to help survive or....A as in grade A beef. I think it meant the latter :lol:

The train car that held Ricks group was labeled 'A'

[Hal-9000]

Lance's last comment above


:slap: that's what I'm talking about..what does the A refer to.......

[Teh One Who Knocks]

http://i.imgur.com/MHHqPEp.png

[Hal-9000]

Maybe it's a Canadian designation? :-s












:dance:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Hal must not have got enough sleep last night :lol:

[Hal-9000]

good gawd it's like speaking to my coworkers :x


I know the damned train car was labeled A....all I am wondering is what the A refers to or the meaning!!!

They killed some D people and were working on the A people next....bad guys mentioned it when Rick and the dudes were still tied up..

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Lance's last comment above


:slap: that's what I'm talking about..what does the A refer to.......

:-s

There were multiple train cars, I assume it just means that they were put in an empty one that happened to be car 'A'. When they were at the kill trough in the premiere, Gareth walked in and said something like "we have 4 from A and 4 from D"

[Teh One Who Knocks]

good gawd it's like speaking to my coworkers :x


I know the damned train car was labeled A....all I am wondering is what the A refers to or the meaning!!!

They killed some D people and were working on the A people next....bad guys mentioned it when Rick and the dudes were still tied up..

:snapout:

You are reading too much into it...it was a label for the holding cars, nothing more :shakehead:

[Hal-9000]

I want there to be a more in depth meaning :sad2:


I still like the grade A beef designation :lol:

[Hal-9000]

One minor thing....Rick was all hell bent to go back in there and kill every last one of those Terminus survivors. Then, next scene he's like - Ok, let's roll.


seemed a quick change of opinion for the Rickster

[Hal-9000]

and poor Glen....


Okay, batter up!
just hang on a minute..

Okay, batter up!
what was that noise?

Okay, batter up!

:lol:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

One minor thing....Rick was all hell bent to go back in there and kill every last one of those Terminus survivors. Then, next scene he's like - Ok, let's roll.


seemed a quick change of opinion for the Rickster

Once he was getting his daughter, I think he lost interest. Although she just said you need to come with me, nothing about, by the way we have your daughter :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

One minor thing....Rick was all hell bent to go back in there and kill every last one of those Terminus survivors. Then, next scene he's like - Ok, let's roll.


seemed a quick change of opinion for the Rickster

I think he just acquiesced and went with the group consensus that it wasn't worth the risk to go back and try and make sure they were all dead


and poor Glen....


Okay, batter up!
just hang on a minute..

Okay, batter up!
what was that noise?

Okay, batter up!

:lol:

I really thought they were going to kill Glen :(

[Hal-9000]

I did like the way Daryl ran up to Carol...very touching.

I'm convinced he wants to bone her :lol:

[Hal-9000]

I have to say I'm very impressed overall with the premier. Other shows pussyfoot and dance around plot lines for weeks...

The Walking Dead hits the ground running with the excellent tied up at the trough scene and continues until Terminus is on fire :thumbsup:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Other shows pussyfoot and dance around plot lines for weeks...

They have to do that when they have a group of shit writers. These guys have plenty of stories to tell, so they can get them out quick :)

[Hal-9000]

I'd like to think that shows like Breaking Bad helped...when they had something on the go, it played out naturally and if folks died, that was part of the story :thumbsup:

Game of Thrones could go on for weeks and then BAM....peoples died there too :lol:

[Goofy]

good gawd it's like speaking to my coworkers :x


I know the damned train car was labeled A....all I am wondering is what the A refers to or the meaning!!!

They killed some D people and were working on the A people next....bad guys mentioned it when Rick and the dudes were still tied up..

A = Assholes
D = Dickheads

:tup:

[Hal-9000]

I still think it was some sort of category or rating system with the train cars...


maybe A meant really capable people, as in badasses and they had to give them special considerations?


I did love the montage of everyone in that car making weapons out of zippers, buttons etc :tup:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

http://i.imgur.com/dWBDJpR.gif

[DemonGeminiX]

:lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

Bob-eque :lol:

[Griffin]

As he regained consciousness Bob knew he didn't have a leg to stand on.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

:rip: Stumpy (formerly known as Bob)




Should have known something bad was going to happen when Bob was talking to Rick and he (Bob) agreed that Rick was right when he said that they (the Terminus people) didn't get to live.

[Hal-9000]

Bob-eque :lol:


:rofl:

nice

[Hal-9000]

Okay so what's up with the minister? I knew something was off before Rick gave him notice....

[Teh One Who Knocks]

He's hiding something....that message carved on the outside of the church. I'm guessing that there were people showing up looking for refuge and he locked them all out and left them for the zombies to eat? More to it than just that I'm sure, but I think that's the tip of the iceberg.

[Hal-9000]

I think he's agreed to be a lure, same thing as above

[DemonGeminiX]

:sealed:

[Hal-9000]

regarding the TV SHOW.......


so let me get this straight.....we have Rick's group, the Terminus group, the preacher and a mystery group watching from the shadows. Mystery group possibly headed by that Morgan guy they showed on the preview? (Morgan was the black dude a couple of seasons back they left in some town?)