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Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 12:58 AM
Roger Ebert has compiled a list of rules for movies.I've never read it, he has referred to certain rules in his reviews.

What things do you notice in movies and TV shows that don't ring true or are annoying?

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 12:59 AM
Cars that pull away slowly or stop, always make a screeching sound.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-03-2011, 01:00 AM
Oooo....I like this topic :)

One thing that bothers me is in movies or TV shows where guns are used and the shooter seems to have an unlimited supply of bullets while never reloading the gun.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:01 AM
People rarely take their car keys out or put them away before and after driving.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:02 AM
In some American movies and TV, the people refer to trucks and SUV's as cars.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:02 AM
People rarely say good bye on the phone.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-03-2011, 01:04 AM
At the end of the movie where the bad guy finally has the good guy cornered, instead of just killing the good guy and getting away, the bad guy has to give a 20 minute speech about everything he has done and why he has done it....which always gives the reinforcements time to arrive and capture or kill the bad guy and save the good guy.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:04 AM
People rarely say thank you for service or no thank you if they are offered something and don't want it.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:04 AM
At the end of the movie where the bad guy finally has the good guy cornered, instead of just killing the good guy and getting away, the bad guy has to give a 20 minute speech about everything he has done and why he has done it....which always gives the reinforcements time to arrive and capture or kill the bad guy and save the good guy.

Oh yes! The evil guy 'announcement of my plans' monologue :lol:

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:07 AM
I watched 7 seasons of The Shield.Not one person caught a cold, got the flu, had a headache...hernia, hemorrhoids, dandruff, hangnails...a bad haircut, nothing!

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:09 AM
No one gets change for purchases.If they do get change, it's usually bill for bill or not shown at all.

No one uses interact debits and if a credit card is shown, it's integral to the plot, not a device to pay for something.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:11 AM
On TV, the show All In The Family was the first prime time sitcom to use the sound of a toilet flushing.It was groundbreaking at the time.

Now on TV, people will talk about using the bathroom for comedic effect or to do something nefarious and sneaky, rather than a number one or number two.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:13 AM
People never interrupt other people when speaking.Often, cell phones will never interrupt a conversation either.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:15 AM
The nerd or the outcast will have some special talent that's allowed to shine through towards the end of the show.The show will imply a message about how we're all special inside.

Often, most of us can't sing, play an instrument, do complex equations in our heads or save the world with an idea.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:17 AM
A good action hero will ALWAYS make a witty quip after killing a bad guy :lol:

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:18 AM
If we're introduced to two characters, one male and one female and they're fighting constantly or putting each other down...they will end up in bed together before the show ends.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-03-2011, 01:19 AM
A good action hero will ALWAYS make a witty quip after killing a bad guy :lol:

Especially if it's an Arnold movie :lol:

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:20 AM
Women always grab a sheet demurely in bed after sex to cover their bodies and men always put on their pants with their backs to the camera when getting out of bed.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:21 AM
Especially if it's an Arnold movie :lol:

That's why I liked Willis in the Die Hards...he said things out of relief, more than mirth, after mixing it up with the bad guys.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:23 AM
If there's a timer on anything, it will be stopped with less than 30 seconds left.You never see a tense scene where they diffuse a bomb with 2 hours and 47 minutes left.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-03-2011, 01:24 AM
If there's a timer on anything, it will be stopped with less than 30 seconds left.You never see a tense scene where they diffuse a bomb with 2 hours and 47 minutes left.

Yup, and lots of times it's with less than 5 seconds left on the timer :|

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:28 AM
People can get a flight anywhere, anytime, for their various needs on the show.Unless it's a show about missing a flight.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:36 AM
In fight scenes, the actors can get hit a number of times over the space of 10 minutes.Their mouths or noses may emit a little trickle of blood, but they're left otherwise unmarked.

b) Any scars or bruises from said fight scenes always heal within 24-48 hours.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:37 AM
Cabs can be hailed anywhere, anytime right from the street.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:39 AM
Couples having sex never look disheveled afterwards.

deebakes
11-03-2011, 01:39 AM
i was expecting this to be a discussion about onscreen pets :lol:




man am i retarded :rofl:

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:39 AM
Women often wear full make up and bras to bed when they sleep alone.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:40 AM
i was expecting this to be a discussion about onscreen pets :lol:




man am i retarded :rofl:

Dogs and cats never shit inside or throw up on the carpet.



:lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
11-03-2011, 01:40 AM
In fight scenes, the actors can get hit a number of times over the space of 10 minutes.Their mouths or noses may emit a little trickle of blood, but they're left otherwise unmarked.

b) Any scars or bruises from said fight scenes always heal within 24-48 hours.

And when they get hit with things like 2 x 4's or heavy bottles, all it does is knock them down, it doesn't break any bones or knock them unconscious

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:41 AM
Computers always use programs that have huge fonts and progress bars that are an inch thick and 8 inches long.

deebakes
11-03-2011, 01:42 AM
...an inch thick and 8 inches long.

it's you that's been peeping in my windows! :shock:

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:44 AM
And when they get hit with things like 2 x 4's or heavy bottles, all it does is knock them down, it doesn't break any bones or knock them unconscious

One of my favorite fight scenes was in one of the Bourne movies.Jason was attacked by an operative in the small apartment.Apparently he used the Israeli discipline Krav Maga.They used everything from books to the toilet tank lid and when the bad guy had enough, he went down.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:47 AM
In fights, a bad guy will always cheat and a good guy will never use a dirty move.


*if I was there and some scary guy was beating the crap outta me, I'd be using a fork to the eye if it would stop him :lol:

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:49 AM
Adding to Lance's post, a gun can be fired 500 times without jamming or dry firing.(Unless the jam is integral to the plot)

deebakes
11-03-2011, 01:49 AM
bad guys are never smart enough to shoot the good guy in the head...

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:52 AM
Adding to both Lance and Dee's post, bad guys always have to tie the good guy up and leave him somewhere.(while either explaining the plan, or laughing) They can never give the good guy a simple double tap to the head.

DemonGeminiX
11-03-2011, 01:52 AM
In TV shows, the hot chick never gets naked.

[-(

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:54 AM
Food and beverages are often ready in seconds.You never see a conversation hi-lighted by one character spending 3 hours cooking a roast with all of the side dishes.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:55 AM
In TV shows, the hot chick never gets naked.

[-(

Golden Girls was canceled years ago and it's still on your mind?

DemonGeminiX
11-03-2011, 01:56 AM
Golden Girls was canceled years ago and it's still on your mind?

:suspect:

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:56 AM
Cops never wait for back up and rarely wear bullet proof vests when knocking down dangerous criminal's doors.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:57 AM
If the local law enforcement is joined by any other law enforcement agency, they will never cooperate and inevitably a pissing match will ensue.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 01:59 AM
In film noir or in any nighttime shots of a large city on TV, the streets are always wet.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 02:00 AM
*spoilers for the movies Seven and Silence of the Lambs*

With the exception of Seven and Silence of the Lambs, serial killers always make a mistake and are caught.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 02:02 AM
Women will always walk alone at night, through parks and down scary back alleys.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 02:03 AM
Cars rarely run out of gas or break down, regardless of how they're being treated.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 02:05 AM
If a cat jumps out at a character, there will always be loud music and a loud cat noise accompanying.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 02:07 AM
People don't take off their shoes entering any house or domicile.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 02:08 AM
Women can run faster in high heels, than their pursuers.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 02:09 AM
If a person is running through a forest while being pursued, they will have a 97.35 % chance of tripping or stumbling.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 02:10 AM
In scary movies, the person checking a room for noise will check every area, except right behind them.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 02:15 AM
The TV will always display a news piece about a character, when that character is near a TV.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 02:21 AM
Most people who use a computer can locate any database and find private, sensitive info within 15 seconds.

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 02:23 AM
No one audibly farts (unless it's a movie comedy with toilet humor throughout)

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 02:25 AM
A cop in a movie will inevitably be divorced, with either the wife or kids hating him.

b) The more successful he is as a cop, is directly proportionate to how dysfunctional his personal life is.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-03-2011, 10:54 AM
In film noir or in any nighttime shots of a large city on TV, the streets are always wet.

They do this in a lot of things actually....watch car commercials on TV, the roads are almost always wet. I never noticed it before until I read something about it. Makes everything stand out better or something, I don't exactly remember the explanation for it.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-03-2011, 10:55 AM
If a person is running through a forest while being pursued, they will have a 97.35 % chance of tripping or stumbling.


In scary movies, the person checking a room for noise will check every area, except right behind them.

Scary movies are the worst when it comes to the cliches and pet peeves :|

Tank
11-03-2011, 01:50 PM
Cars that pull away slowly or stop, always make a screeching sound.

you can usually hear the car change gear, depite it being a manual (stick to ya yank n canucks) and never see the driver change, unless its a dramatic shove to get into gear.


People rarely take their car keys out or put them away before and after driving.

no one ever puts their windows up after leaving a parked car, and it will never rain in that location


And when they get hit with things like 2 x 4's or heavy bottles, all it does is knock them down, it doesn't break any bones or knock them unconscious

Smallville is the one of the worst for this type of thing! characters can get nocked out by simply having a paper bag thrown at them, and if they get thrown down/against anything . . . instant knockout! but on the flipside tehy can also be thrown through a wall or ran over and simply bounce up out of it . . . even those without meteor infections ;)


Women will always walk alone at night, through parks and down scary back alleys.

or when being chased will either run AWAY from safety/civilisation or down the dark scary dead end alley


Most people who use a computer can locate any database and find private, sensitive info within 15 seconds.

100gig files can be tranfered to a usb stick in seconds, and never makes the 'unpluged your device' bing

Noilly Pratt
11-03-2011, 05:27 PM
In fights, a bad guy will always cheat and a good guy will never use a dirty move.

*if I was there and some scary guy was beating the crap outta me, I'd be using a fork to the eye if it would stop him :lol:

I agree for the most part...except for Casino Royale with Daniel Craig as James Bond. He was brutal and it was a great way to show that this was a crueller, meaner Bond (I'm thinking of the bathroom fight scene).


100gig files can be tranfered to a usb stick in seconds, and never makes the 'unpluged your device' bing

As a computer support person, one particular friend would always ask, right in the middle of whatever movie we were in "Is this feasible" or "can they do that?" in a really loud voice whenever there was a computer doing anything. Shaddap!!! :D

Or how about when the bad guy is being chased car to car, and one car will invariably hit a bunch of watermelon/fruit etc and madness ensues.

MrsM
11-03-2011, 06:04 PM
On the IT front - every firewall or database that gets hacked has a fancy UI that shows doors opening or some other representation of gaining access. And the average nerdy teen can hack most passwords in about 1-2 minutes.

MrsM
11-03-2011, 06:05 PM
Last night - watched a stupid horror movie Trick or Treat or something like that - the guy has a double barrel shotgun - the kind that folds so he can put in the 2 bullets. After he loads and closes the gun the sound was that of loading a pump action shotgun. Now I don't know much about guns - but I know that was wrong :)

MrsM
11-03-2011, 06:05 PM
Why is it after a sex scene that when they get out of bed they usually have their underware on? must be a lot of dry humpping :) - mostly less than R rated movies or TV shows

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 07:16 PM
Last night - watched a stupid horror movie Trick or Treat or something like that - the guy has a double barrel shotgun - the kind that folds so he can put in the 2 bullets. After he loads and closes the gun the sound was that of loading a pump action shotgun. Now I don't know much about guns - but I know that was wrong :)

Welcome to the thread :)


:thumbsup:

Dr Death
11-03-2011, 07:26 PM
I hate it when there is a really long fight scene (such as in Carpenter's They Live) and neither party has barely a scratch...just a small cut on their lip or a slight bloody nose.

Dr Death
11-03-2011, 07:32 PM
I also hate whenever someone is in outer space they move in slow motion....totally unrealistic!

Hal-9000
11-03-2011, 08:10 PM
In fight scenes, the actors can get hit a number of times over the space of 10 minutes.Their mouths or noses may emit a little trickle of blood, but they're left otherwise unmarked.

b) Any scars or bruises from said fight scenes always heal within 24-48 hours.


I hate it when there is a really long fight scene (such as in Carpenter's They Live) and neither party has barely a scratch...just a small cut on their lip or a slight bloody nose.

:thumbsup:



I've been in a few fights (more than few actually) and if they last more than 5 minutes, most times I've been pretty banged up :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
11-03-2011, 09:26 PM
I love how in action films (mostly) that whenever the good guy needs to either get away or chase after the bad guy and they come upon a vehicle they have never used before (like a chopper, or a plane or an alien spaceship), they always have no problems just learning on the fly and manage to use it near flawlessly in minutes.

Tank
11-03-2011, 10:25 PM
I love how in most action films a gang of bad guys, sometimes even a whole army can be shooting at the hero, usually using automatic weapons, letting off hundreds of rounds, showering everything but the good guy with hot lead! But he can kill each and every enemy with a single shot, and always in the chest or head never a glancing shot unless the badguy needs interrogating/gives away bad guys plans.

Pony
11-03-2011, 10:30 PM
Cars that pull away slowly or stop, always make a screeching sound.

Don't forget squealing tires on dirt/wet roads.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-03-2011, 10:31 PM
Also in action films, I like how the good guy can be massively outnumbered and instead of everyone just all going after the good guy, they will all wait their turn to fight him one-on-one even when the good guy keeps kicking their asses one at a time.

Pony
11-03-2011, 10:51 PM
But it's not fair to fight any way but one on one.

Don't forget the bad guy always shoots first.

"Han shot first"

And the good guys never shoot to kill, the only bad guys to die are by their own stupid mistakes.

Dr Death
11-04-2011, 07:27 AM
Or how about when a car jumps off a cliff it explodes in midair...what the hell did it hit in the air to cause it to explode?

DemonGeminiX
11-04-2011, 09:39 AM
People don't take off their shoes entering any house or domicile.

Neither do I.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-04-2011, 10:34 AM
Or how about when a car jumps off a cliff it explodes in midair...what the hell did it hit in the air to cause it to explode?

Just the fact that cars explode period in crashes, that is a total myth unless something extraordinary happens during the crash.

Noilly Pratt
11-04-2011, 03:27 PM
...or how just before the car goes over the cliff the hero can open the door of the car, jump out at freeway + speeds, roll a bit and then get back up with hardly a hair out of place when in reality you'd most likely be dead from hitting your head. What they do is roll out at about 30mph max and speed up the film to make it more exciting.

...or how a really mean bad guy can tense his stomach muscles, get punched and not get hurt, but catch him unaware and he'll fall down like a house of cards.

Goofy
11-05-2011, 02:21 PM
Everyone in films is a trained dancer :lol:

Hal-9000
11-07-2011, 05:32 PM
If someone needs to pick a lock, they'll do it in under 10 seconds regardless of experience or tools on hand..

Hal-9000
11-08-2011, 06:52 PM
Background music that implies something is going to happen :x

DemonGeminiX
11-08-2011, 11:37 PM
:-s

6 pages of complaints. Wow. How do you manage to enjoy movies or TV at all?

Hal-9000
11-08-2011, 11:41 PM
I had to keep my hands busy the night I started the thread :oops: :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
11-21-2011, 08:13 PM
Dammit, I saw something last night on either Dexter or The Walking Dead that I wanted to put in this thread, but now I can't remember what it was at all :dunce:

Hal-9000
11-21-2011, 08:19 PM
I saw the no keys thing while getting in/out of a car, the money thing and the lack of thanks thing...all in one show on the weekend :dance:

Muddy
11-21-2011, 08:31 PM
I love the old Star Treks, but some of them irritated me becasue they would try and teach some modern day moral lesson... Like the episode with the guys with the half white half black painted faces..Which was a take on racism.. Or the Star Trek movie that was really tied to the modern day 'save the whales' campaign.. I think that's why I always really like Star Wars... No ties to Earth.

KevinD
11-21-2011, 08:51 PM
Was just recently reminded how much I hate when films are so dark (for "realism") that you can't see what the hell is going on.

Hal-9000
11-22-2011, 02:47 AM
I love the old Star Treks, but some of them irritated me becasue they would try and teach some modern day moral lesson... Like the episode with the guys with the half white half black painted faces..Which was a take on racism.. Or the Star Trek movie that was really tied to the modern day 'save the whales' campaign.. I think that's why I always really like Star Wars... No ties to Earth.

Yeah it was known as a 'Space Opera' back in the day for those reasons....I still liked it when Jim did the clasped, double fist move on the dude's back, KWALITY entertainment :thumbsup:

Hal-9000
11-22-2011, 02:48 AM
Was just recently reminded how much I hate when films are so dark (for "realism") that you can't see what the hell is going on.

Or the jittery, fast cut style that's supposed to be trendy nowadays....only a few films and TV series have pulled it off well, so you didn't feel like you needed a Gravol afterwards

Hal-9000
11-22-2011, 02:49 AM
When two characters arrange to meet later, but with no preset time or place.


"I'll pick you up tomorrow night"
"Sounds good"

Leefro
11-22-2011, 02:52 AM
When two characters arrange to meet later, but with no preset time or place.


"I'll pick you up tomorrow night"
"Sounds good"

Just a saying like in real life

Like for EG

someone you don't know you say someting like

See Ya Later or

When you walk into the docs waiting room and spot someone you know and you say

Hello mate how are you ?

Hal-9000
11-22-2011, 02:56 AM
Just a saying like in real life

Like for EG

someone you don't know you say someting like

See Ya Later or

When you walk into the docs waiting room and spot someone you know and you say

Hello mate how are you ?

Actually no...I've seen countless shows where they make the declaration and never show any further communication until the time they meet.

It's all loosey, goosey...don't try and defend those lazy screenwriters :x

Leefro
11-22-2011, 02:58 AM
Well I have said to someone i will be meeting say see you later but not to say a time

Hal-9000
11-22-2011, 03:01 AM
:lol:

well if you want to make a point out of it...it's not what I'm talking about.I say see ya later all the time too when I'm on the phone or leaving work.

In shows however, a guy will make a date with a girl for example and say - I'll pick you up tomorrow night.Then she'll bat her eyes and say Ok.
Does she sit wherever from 6pm until 11:59pm waiting? Noooooo..

Leefro
11-22-2011, 03:04 AM
I'm just saying it does happen from time to time in real life

In what film was it where the bloke turned up at 12am for a date ??

40 days 40 nights ?

Hal-9000
11-22-2011, 03:11 AM
Just watch the next few movies and shows closely...you'll see my friend..

Leefro
11-22-2011, 03:14 AM
I don't want to watch Twilight films hal sorry :(

Hal-9000
11-22-2011, 03:18 AM
I'm just saying it does happen from time to time in real life

In what film was it where the bloke turned up at 12am for a date ??

40 days 40 nights ?

Since we're kinda talking about movies and stuff, maybe the real life stuff wouldn't apply here? :rolleyes:

focus man, focus :thumbsup:


twilight...fook off :lol:

Leefro
11-22-2011, 03:20 AM
Obviously poetic licence is a be all and end all I guess :(

Teh One Who Knocks
11-29-2011, 03:14 PM
Why is it when someone on foot is being chased by someone in a car, the car only goes fast enough to barely overtake the person being chased, and instead of running off the side into the woods/yards/pond/whatever, the person being chased runs right down the middle of the road in front of the car?

:|

Softdreamer
11-29-2011, 04:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/GJqED.png

Nuff said

Pony
11-29-2011, 10:59 PM
Why is it when someone on foot is being chased by someone in a car, the car only goes fast enough to barely overtake the person being chased, and instead of running off the side into the woods/yards/pond/whatever, the person being chased runs right down the middle of the road in front of the car?

:|

Speaking of car chases, what about in a chase scene where no matter what kind of POS the villain is driving it always can keep right up with the hero in the tricked out sports car? Or a car keeping up with a crotchrocket.....

Shady
11-29-2011, 11:48 PM
Speaking of car chases, what about in a chase scene where no matter what kind of POS the villain is driving it always can keep right up with the hero in the tricked out sports car? Or a car keeping up with a crotchrocket.....

How about the opposite? The villian driving a modern super car only to try and keep the hero off his/her tail in an old 60's muscle car.

Leefro
11-29-2011, 11:59 PM
Ohh how I hate it us when your just about to shoot your load and the camera focuses on the bloke screwing his face up like an empty pkt of crisps

Sorry wrong type of movie :(

JoeyB
11-30-2011, 12:39 AM
Ohh how I hate it us when your just about to shoot your load and the camera focuses on the bloke screwing his face up like an empty pkt of crisps

Sorry wrong type of movie :(

No, but a legitimate film hazard nonetheless.

Look into lesbian porn!

Griffin
11-30-2011, 01:54 AM
A lesbian walks into a sex toy store and asks where the vibrators are.

"Come this way," the cute woman behind the counter says, gesturing with her finger.

"If I could come that way, I wouldn't need the vibrator, would I?" the woman responds.

Godfather
11-30-2011, 03:58 AM
Just watch the next few movies and shows closely...you'll see my friend..

Do you forget how long and awful that conversation is? The pining over what time works for both parties between work, gym, changing, showering. Then what cuisine to eat based against what has been eaten the week prior, recent dates and restaurant reviews, price range, how formal to dress. Then what movie to see, what show time, what theater....

FML I hate dating :lol:

Godfather
11-30-2011, 04:01 AM
Why is it when someone on foot is being chased by someone in a car, the car only goes fast enough to barely overtake the person being chased, and instead of running off the side into the woods/yards/pond/whatever, the person being chased runs right down the middle of the road in front of the car?

:|

It always seems to me like people with any kind of wheels don't have the advantage they should :lol:

For me I've always noticed in movies/tv that bicycles get run down really quickly. Who are these people who can't out-pedal a runner?

Teh One Who Knocks
12-02-2011, 12:09 PM
Here's another one, especially in horror flicks: How can someone be trying to escape from the killer, they get a decent head start, run out at night in the dark into the woods, and somehow the killer always knows exactly where the person went and tracks them down faster than a police search party with bloodhounds? :|

DemonGeminiX
12-02-2011, 12:59 PM
:nono:

It wouldn't be much of a horror movie if they got away.

Hal-9000
12-02-2011, 02:59 PM
Here's another one, especially in horror flicks: How can someone be trying to escape from the killer, they get a decent head start, run out at night in the dark into the woods, and somehow the killer always knows exactly where the person went and tracks them down faster than a police search party with bloodhounds? :|

subsection B: The killer always places one of his victims in that large environment, right where another live character is sure to see it.And then, at that moment, the killer will be right behind the live person to amplify the pee your pants moment :thumbsup:

Teh One Who Knocks
12-02-2011, 03:08 PM
:thumbsup:

Acres and acres of woods, but the still living people always stumble on the dead bodies of their friends

Hal-9000
12-02-2011, 03:10 PM
and the killer always has time to hang them up, dress them up, or just generally violate the corpse in some heinous way in order to derive more terror from the living viewers

Hal-9000
12-02-2011, 03:11 PM
You bring up a good point...going back to the rule where the victim inevitably stumbles when running away, the killer NEVER trips and falls.