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Teh One Who Knocks
11-08-2011, 07:20 PM
Fox News and The Associated Press


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The White House is declining to comment about an audio tape from last week's G20 summit that captured President Obama and French President Nicolas Sarkozy venting about Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whom Sarkozy calls a "liar."

The conversation overheard by reporters -- who evidently agreed not to report it because it was captured before the two leaders thought they were on-mic -- was picked up on English and French simultaneous translation headsets.

According to French website, Arret sur images, which analyzes media coverage of current affairs, Obama was heard asking Sarkozy to help persuade the Palestinians to stop their efforts to gain U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state.

Sarkozy told Obama, "Netanyahu, I can't stand him. He's a liar."

Obama did not object to the characterization, and responded: "You are sick of him, but I have to work with him every day."

Asked about the conversation on Tuesday, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said that he wouldn't confirm that it happened, but the president's "very firm position" has been that efforts to achieve U.N. membership by the Palestinians were "premature and counterproductive" to the goal of Mideast peace.

The president believes very firmly that both sides -- Israelis and Palestinians -- need to take steps that bring them together to direct negotiations and not ones that make it harder to happen, Carney added.

Several French-speaking journalists, including one from The Associated Press, overheard the comments but did not initially report them because staff members of Sarkozy's office asked the journalists not to turn on the headsets until the press conference began, and the comments were deemed private under French media traditions.

Sarkozy's office would not comment Tuesday on the remarks, or on France's relations with Israel. Netanyahu's spokesman also said he had no comment.

But Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said Obama's remarks, if true, are "indicative of policies of this administration toward Israel."

"Israel is under more pressure and more danger than they've been since the '67 war, and that kind of comment is not helpful but indicative of the kind of policies toward Israel that this administration has been part of," McCain said, adding that the French have always been disdainful of the Israelis.

McCain added that he "would probably fire some aides who allowed that happen," and that the Palestinian-Israeli peace efforts under the administration can't be viewed as "anything but a total failure on the part of this administration."

Since becoming president in 2007, Sarkozy has tried to strengthen French ties with Israel while also maintaining its traditional good relations with Arab allies. His latest comments may complicate French and European efforts toward Mideast peace.

Sarkozy has shown little patience with Israeli hard-liners, and two years ago urged Netanyahu to fire his outspoken foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman. In a private meeting, Sarkozy told Netanyahu that "you must get rid of that man," according to two officials.

In September of this year, the French leader tried to head off the Palestinians' request for membership in the United Nations with a last-minute effort to revive peace talks.

But France then surprised Washington and other observers by voting last week in favor of membership for Palestine in UNESCO, the U.N. cultural and educational agency. Carney said it's well-known that Obama and Sarkozy disagreed about the UNESCO vote.

Muddy
11-08-2011, 07:30 PM
Honesty isn't allowed when we deal with Ishhhraelll!!

Muddy
11-08-2011, 07:33 PM
I don't know who the fuck England thought they were just proclaiming that Israel was now an independent state anyway... Really? Come on... Im sorry what happened to the Jews but really how can you just hand them a country from lands that are not yours to give?

Hal-9000
11-08-2011, 07:39 PM
They rolled 11 playing Risk

JoeyB
11-08-2011, 09:52 PM
Honesty isn't allowed when we deal with Ishhhraelll!!

Actually, no it isn't.

It bothers me that the Israelis, the children, grand children, and great grand children of Holocaust survivors, should perpetuate crimes of humanity against the Palestinian people.

Who more than the Jews should respect the right of a people to have a homeland?

History repeats endlessly.

Muddy
11-08-2011, 09:54 PM
Give the Palestinians Germany!

Hal-9000
11-08-2011, 10:00 PM
Actually, no it isn't.

It bothers me that the Israelis, the children, grand children, and great grand children of Holocaust survivors, should perpetuate crimes of humanity against the Palestinian people.

Who more than the Jews should respect the right of a people to have a homeland?

History repeats endlessly.

That little tri-area of the map has changed hands over the centuries more times than LiHo on a weekend bender...

JoeyB
11-08-2011, 10:01 PM
Give the Palestinians Germany!

Modern Germans are paying for the sins of their fathers and grandfathers, they have suffered enough.

JoeyB
11-08-2011, 10:02 PM
That little tri-area of the map has changed hands over the centuries more times than LiHo on a weekend bender...

You just made me feel sort of bad for Lindsay lol...