NHL and other ice hockey discussion

[Godfather]

Fair enough. The experiment was dead.

Twitter is blowing up with people talking about that egg-head Pierre McGuire... please tell me that's just a joke :lol:



Edmonton needs a shake-up now too... peopel forget that young teams don't always magically become good. You can be young and suck balls just like you can be old and still kicking the tires like Detroit always is.

[samarchepas]

Fair enough

Twitter is blowing up with people talking about that egg-head Pierre McGuire... please tell me that's just a joke :lol:
Rumors :lol: (let's hope that it stays that way...) They have not contacted anyone yet (as said by Savard today)
BTW McGuire is only popular with the Anglophones (so 80% don't want him there...AT ALL)

[Godfather]

My God I thought it was the Francophones who must like him... all the Anglophones I know here think he's just a joke and play the "Pierre McGuire Drinking Game" :lol:

Guy is a clown

[samarchepas]

My God I thought it was the Francophones who must like him... all the Anglophones I know here think he's just a joke and play the "Pierre McGuire Drinking Game" :lol:

Guy is a clown

How could they like him in the first place? The guy only talks on TSN and CBC (English networks) so most people don't know him much...I know him and don't want him :lol:

[Godfather]

:lol: It's like in Tampa when he said he was their second choice behind STEVE YZERMAN


I find it very, very hard to believe McGuire fits in any coversation with Steve-Y

[samarchepas]

:lol: It's like in Tampa when he said he was their second choice behind STEVE YZERMAN


I find it very, very hard to believe McGuire fits in any coversation with Steve-Y

How can he KNOW he was the 2nd choice at all? :lol: (Mind reading of the Lightning's owner? :rofl: )
BTW he will probably be considered BUT I don't see him getting the job (Hopefully)

[Godfather]

In other news, I guess Malkin belongs on NHL 13 eh :-k I haven't voted yet

I'd rather see Giroux on there in terms of guys who haven't been on the cover yet (otherwise Stamkos would be an obvious choice too)

[samarchepas]

Same here, either Giroux or Malkin

[Joebob034]

Fair enough. The experiment was dead.

Twitter is blowing up with people talking about that egg-head Pierre McGuire... please tell me that's just a joke :lol:


Oh God, as a GM he would probably trade the whole team and arena for Sidney Crosby since he has a 24-hour boner for him

[samarchepas]

Oh God, as a GM he would probably trade the whole team and arena for Sidney Crosby since he has a 24-hour boner for him

Another reason NOT to sign the guy :lol: The Habs have a good core that should not be touched...but those around them should (Price,Subban,Pacioretty,Cole,Desharnais,Gorges and Emelin...don't really care about the rest :lol:)
The Team NEEDS a big center and will probably get one on draft this year.

[Godfather]

I'd trade Pacioretty while his stock is so inflated :lol: You know you have a bad team when he's your best player. I'll eat dirt if he scores 30 goals again next year. He's just not that good at hockey...

I'd put the under-performing PK and the undersized Desharnais up for grabs too if I was running the show. Hell, Phaneuf isn't a guy I'd build a team around, and half the roster has just generally underperformed against their salary. Time for a big shakeup isn't it... The GM situation in Montreal is as ugly as Burke's run in Toronto.

[samarchepas]

I'd trade Pacioretty while his stock is so inflated :lol: You know you have a bad team when he's your best player. I'll eat dirt of he scores 30 goals again next year.
sorry but...F!@# NO!!! (I will remember the "I will eat dirt if he scores 30 goals again next year" because he will ;) )

[Godfather]

Cool, please do. I know he's a fan favorite, but the guy is just not that good :lol:

[samarchepas]

Cool, please do. I know he's a fan favorite, but the guy is just not that good :lol:

Not that good? He pretty much did the same thing last year :lol: (14 goals in 37 games....thanks Chara...)
lets put it that way...its as if I would tell you Ryan Kesler is overrated...not :lol:

[samarchepas]

No chance :lol: LA is suffering one of the biggest let-downs of the last few years. Look at their 'top' guys... Kopitar has a pathetic 17 goals, Gagne has 7, Penner 5!!! What a joke. And their top two defensemen combined for 12 before the big trades.

They looked like they could win the Pacific and instead they just simply blow

Remember this? :lol: (I know they didn't win it but still)
All that they needed was a hot goalie and forwards that woke up

[Teh One Who Knocks]

LA v NJ for the Cup :thumbsup:




Hockey to fall asleep by :lol:

[samarchepas]

LA v NJ for the Cup :thumbsup:




Hockey to fall asleep by :lol:
LA could be great a finalist team but NJ?:ewww: :lol: (Worst possible matchup in term of fun? The Devils vs the Coyotes...unless you'd like games that end 1-0 with 3 or 4 OT periods :lol:)

[Joebob034]

Nice job predators, assholes. Well betman you got what you a western conference finals that no one will watch

[Teh One Who Knocks]

LA and Phoenix are hockey hotbeds :hand:

[DemonGeminiX]

Flyers score!

:cheer:

[DemonGeminiX]

Bitch.

:meh:

[DemonGeminiX]

Aw, fuck this noise, man.

:meh:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Aw, fuck this noise, man.

:meh:

:empathy:

[Godfather]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7QMdpmfvVs

:( Sorry DGX

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I'm tellin' ya, Devils v Kings for the Cup :dance2:

[Godfather]

I'm tellin' ya, Devils v Kings for the Cup :dance2:

Very possible, but so wacky... those cities are sufficiently big enough to generate attention... but that still has to alienate a huge number of NHL fans who just don't care about that kind final :lol: Even more so if it's Phoenix instead of LA

Bettman probably couldn't be happier eh... luckiest Real Estate agent in the world :lol: Talk about an 'up and coming neighborhood'

[Richard Cranium]

: Phoenix :

[samarchepas]

So far so good on both series :lol: (I said Kings vs Rangers for the Cup)
Lundqvist pretty much saved the Rangers asses on game one (Yet again)
and Smith did what he could against the Kings...which was not enough.

[Joebob034]

KRONWALLED!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RdKjFlfIL8Y#!

[samarchepas]

KRONWALLED!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RdKjFlfIL8Y#!

ALWAYS keep your head up on the ice! :lol: (Didn't see him then....BAM!!!! :lol: )

[DemonGeminiX]

Jeff Carter has a hat trick. I bet Homer's gonna get shit for trading him now.

:lol:

[samarchepas]

Jeff Carter has a hat trick. I bet Homer's gonna get shit for trading him now.

:lol:
3 goals...4 in total in 11 games so no, Homer should not feel bad about the trades he made...can't say the same about Bryzgalov :lol:
The real reasons why the Kings are where they are: Jonathan Quick and Dustin Brown.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Kings are now 10-1 in the playoffs :shock:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

And Quick has played every game....10-1 with a 1.45 GAA and a .951 save percentage and 2 shutouts. Un-freaking-real

[Godfather]

And they're 7-0 on the road :shock:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

And I believe I read somewhere that the best record of all time in the playoffs (in the Best Of 7 for all series era) was the Edmonton Oilers (I forget which year) when they won the Cup and went 16-2. The Kings have a good shot of at least tying that the way they are playing.

[DemonGeminiX]

Well, if they do go the distance, I'll take comfort in the fact that at least two former Flyers will have their name on the Cup. Still waiting to see if Gagne comes back.

[samarchepas]

It's official...The current CBA WILL expire in September(The NHLPA announced it today)...hopefully they won't mess up like last time (But with Bettman in charge...I don't have my hope too high on that!)

[DemonGeminiX]

Dale Hunter quit the Capital's coaching job.

[Godfather]

Well, if they do go the distance, I'll take comfort in the fact that at least two former Flyers will have their name on the Cup. Still waiting to see if Gagne comes back.

And I'll take comfort in the Canucks being the only team to beat them a single time in the playoffs :lol: Gotta look on the bright side of things I guess... fuck...

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Man, the Kings look completely unstoppable....and Quick is amazing, he came into the game with that shiny 1.45 GAA last night and actually lowered it a bit. Unbelievable. I am pulling for the Kings to win it all now, they are a feel good story for sure.

[Godfather]

No kidding, they're unreal. But if they sweep and the New York series goes to 7 they could sit for 13 days :shock:

The Senators had similar circumstances and came into the finals totally flat. They thought about organizing an exhibition game with a college team but didn't, and regret it. I hope LA is smart and finds a way to stay hungry.

[DemonGeminiX]

The Kings had an off day.

[Godfather]

That's cool, I needed some points from Doan :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

He got the only two goals of the game, so you made out like a thief today.

[Godfather]

YEP! And it's an extra point for him getting the GWG!

[Richard Cranium]

I'm kinda happy about that.. Just delaying the inevitable, but,,, not bad for a bunch of nobodies and has beens, eh?

[DemonGeminiX]

The Kings win the West.

[RBP]

The Kings win the West.

Had a dream I was king, I woke up still king

[DemonGeminiX]

The Devils win the East.

It's the Kings vs the Devils for the Stanley Cup.

[DemonGeminiX]

LA v NJ for the Cup :thumbsup:

Hockey to fall asleep by :lol:


I'm tellin' ya, Devils v Kings for the Cup :dance2:

:-s

:-k

[Godfather]

I'll cheer for LA, but I haven't cared this little about a final in a long time :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

:hand:

Nobody cares about a championship final when their team isn't involved. They just sit around and say, "This sucks. This is the most lame and boring final in the history of sports. The league brass should be appalled by this matchup".... etc etc etc

It's called being a sore loser.

[samarchepas]

:hand:

Nobody cares about a championship final when their team isn't involved. They just sit around and say, "This sucks. This is the most lame and boring final in the history of sports. The league brass should be appalled by this matchup".... etc etc etc

It's called being a sore loser.
My team didn't even come close to the playoffs but I still do care about the championship...less than if the Habs would be in it be I didn't miss a single playoffs game this year.

My prediction: LA in 6

[Godfather]

:hand:

Nobody cares about a championship final when their team isn't involved. They just sit around and say, "This sucks. This is the most lame and boring final in the history of sports. The league brass should be appalled by this matchup".... etc etc etc

It's called being a sore loser.

Pretty assumptive comments :lol:


The NHL polls as the sport with the most fans who cheer for teams outside of their market. I would be excited if one of Detroit, Chicago, Philly, Pitt or ANY Canadian team was in the final....

As usual, I'll watch, but unfortunately I just don't have any emotion for either of these teams this year. And I'm going to bitch about it :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

:-s

:-k

8-)

[DemonGeminiX]

8-)

:kick:

[DemonGeminiX]

If the Kings win, they'll be the first 8th seed team to have ever won the cup.

[Godfather]

If the Kings win, they'll be the first 8th seed team to have ever won the cup.

WHAT? That's crazy!!!

Just googled it, they're only the second 8th seed team to make it to the finals (worst teams have won the cup but before the playoffs included as many teams). Had no idea it was that rare. Guess I'll cheer for the Cinderella story. Don't like Dustin Brown and his dirty smirk though :lol:

[Godfather]

Forgot to mention, Coach V let it slip on Friday that Luongo has actually asked for a trade. He hates us as much as the average fan hates him :lol: Shit.

With the CBA stuff though, I'm no longer as confident anyone can take him. It was always accepted that you'd be able to bury his long contract cap hit in the minor leagues in his last couple seasons. But that could change (which could have effects on several teams around the league too)

[Teh One Who Knocks]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/michael_farber/05/29/brodeur.stanley.cup.final.quick/index.html?xid=si_topstories

Nice article on the two goalies in the finals

[Joebob034]

:(

http://www.freep.com/article/20120530/SPORTS05/120530060/Source-Wings-Lidstrom-will-retire

[Godfather]

:( His name belongs on those rafters, no doubt. He was my favorite player for a lot of years, had his jersey and aspired to play his defensive-defenseman style. The games going to miss a player with that kind of class.

[deebakes]

Kings take game 1 in overtime, 2-1...

[Godfather]

Great game!


This is awesome btw
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1198282-ranking-the-nhls-10-best-because-its-the-cup-videos

[deebakes]

If the Kings win, they'll be the first 8th seed team to have ever won the cup.

if the devils win, they'll be the first 6th seed team to have ever won the cup ;)

[Teh One Who Knocks]

:(

http://www.freep.com/article/20120530/SPORTS05/120530060/Source-Wings-Lidstrom-will-retire

Who? :-s

[Joebob034]

:( His name belongs on those rafters, no doubt. He was my favorite player for a lot of years, had his jersey and aspired to play his defensive-defenseman style. The games going to miss a player with that kind of class.

I was hoping he would come back for just one more year since we got the winter classic next year, but oh well. It's gonna be weird without him. But if we can adjust to life without Yzerman we can adjust to life without Lidstrom. On the plus side this frees up room to go after Ryan Suter, especially if Holmstrom retires too.

[Godfather]

Who's going to be Captain :-k

[Joebob034]

Zetterberg no doubt

[deebakes]

yzerman :tup:

[Godfather]

Zetterberg no doubt

Lidstrom likes Kronwall too, but yeah I agree, Zetterberg is the shoo-in

[Joebob034]

yzerman :tup:

Brandon Inge

[Godfather]

Hey Lance what's your take on Tim Thomas :wha: First he's talking about a taking year off (even though that could still fall under Boston's cap). That's one thing if you're worn down, but now we're hearing from a reputable source that he relocated his family to a compound with full deep earth survival bunker in the mountains in Colorado and needs time off to get ready ..... again just before the game today he posts articles about how the world is about to face a huge financial meltdown and to be ready and shit. :lol:

I think he's lost it...:tinfoil:

[DemonGeminiX]

He probably watched one of those late night commercials featuring some "Economist" talking about how the world economy was going to collapse and how the dollar was going to fall. What's funny is the whole commercial gives you a weblink and when you follow it and watch it, at the end, he asks you to buy his advice to avoid it... asking for payment in US dollars.

[DemonGeminiX]

The Kings are up 2 games to 0.

[Godfather]

The Kings are up 2 games to 0.

Another great game! Should be interesting to see how the Devils handle the 6 hour flight and time difference with the game being on Monday. Someone told me today they haven't played outside their time zone in 3 months :shock:

I'm in first place in my playoff pool by 4 points, but the guy behind me has 4 more players still in this than I do. Going to be VERY tight. Ideally LA wins the next two in low scoring games and I'm laughing to the bank

[DemonGeminiX]

Someone told me today they haven't played outside their time zone in 3 months :shock:

I don't know about 3 months but every team in the playoff's Eastern conference bracket this year are in the Eastern time zone so the Devils haven't faced a time change so far in the playoffs.

[deebakes]

i'm on the kings band wagon :oops:

[Godfather]

i'm on the kings band wagon :oops:

Same :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

i'm on the kings band wagon :oops:


Same :lol:

Me too.

And even though I'm a fan of Brodeur's, I sincerely think his time in the league as a goaltender is coming to a close. Besides, I think it would be really cool if the Kings made history being the first 8th seeded team to win the Cup.

[Richard Cranium]

I'm still not sure..

[deebakes]

Me too.

And even though I'm a fan of Brodeur's, I sincerely think his time in the league as a goaltender is coming to a close. Besides, I think it would be really cool if the Kings made history being the first 8th seeded team to win the Cup.

He has been pretty solid in the playoffs though for a 40+ year old...

[DemonGeminiX]

I'm still not sure..

*looks at avatar and user title*

:empathy:

It must be such a hard decision for you...


He has been pretty solid in the playoffs though for a 40+ year old...

:-k

He is pretty damn good for his age. Knowing him he'll be 70 years old and still be good in net, but he'll have to use a walker to get to the ice.

I hear Hasek is trying to make a comeback. At 47, he's gonna join the silver club too.

[deebakes]

you could look at it another way too, he is the only goalie left aside from the monster the kings have :shrug:

[samarchepas]

Brodeur is good to go for another year at least...If he wants to or just do like Lidstrom did (But then again...Brodeur already said that he was coming back next year)
And the whole Thomas thing= RIDICULOUS!!!!

[Godfather]

Brodeur's Dad said he thought his son was good for another season, maybe two, if there isn't a lock-out. Cool to hear his take on it. Hope he stays around!

Thomas confirmed earlier today he will take the year off. At 38 I'd be surprised if he could come back after a year off. Funny he doesn't just retire and save face. Thomas said he wants to be back play in the 2014 Olympics :lol: Umm, at least Quick, maybe Schneider, Howard & Miller are going to have something to say about that. The US has many of the best goalies right now!!!

[samarchepas]

The Pittsburgh Penguins acquired goalie Tomas Vokoun from the Washington Capitals on Monday for a seventh-round draft pick and then signed the veteran to a two-year, $4 million contract....:shock:!! (Did not see that coming :lol:...and yes I knew that trades can happen right now...when the teams are out of the playoffs)

[Richard Cranium]

Not official, but,,,

Pitt will be trading Fleury to Edmonton for the first overall pick.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Hey Lance what's your take on Tim Thomas :wha: First he's talking about a taking year off (even though that could still fall under Boston's cap). That's one thing if you're worn down, but now we're hearing from a reputable source that he relocated his family to a compound with full deep earth survival bunker in the mountains in Colorado and needs time off to get ready ..... again just before the game today he posts articles about how the world is about to face a huge financial meltdown and to be ready and shit. :lol:

I think he's lost it...:tinfoil:

Haven't followed it other than seeing a blurb about him on ESPN last Friday about maybe not playing. I'll be back when I read more about it :)

Although if he doesn't play, I think we have someone very capable with Rask between the pipes. Not in Thomas's league by any stretch, but then again, he really hasn't been an 'every day' goaltender yet.

[DemonGeminiX]

The Pittsburgh Penguins acquired goalie Tomas Vokoun from the Washington Capitals on Monday for a seventh-round draft pick and then signed the veteran to a two-year, $4 million contract....:shock:!! (Did not see that coming :lol:...and yes I knew that trades can happen right now...when the teams are out of the playoffs)


Not official, but,,,

Pitt will be trading Fleury to Edmonton for the first overall pick.

Fleury is 20 times better than Vokoun. The front office in Pittsburgh is fucking nuts. They might as well put a scarecrow in front of their net.

[samarchepas]

Fleury is 20 times better than Vokoun. The front office in Pittsburgh is fucking nuts. They might as well put a scarecrow in front of their net.

He is...and the Penguins are aware of it BUT Vokoun will be a damn good backup just in case something like this year happens (And it challenges Fleury to do better too)

[Godfather]

Wow that's all shocking... why is Pitt worried about a high first round draft more than solid goaltending unless they didn't want Fleury for some reason? They have three stars in Malkin, Crosby and Staal, with rookie James Neal scoring 40 goals as the icing on the cake. Sure they can draft a superstar but how do they expect to sign all these guys the next 2 years. Maybe they're worried about Crosby's health that much? I'm just spit-balling obviously. I'd still be flabbergasted if they weren't drafting a Defenseman... odd

Man, the time leading up to the draft/July 1 is way better than the trade deadline these past few years eh :D

[DemonGeminiX]

Maybe they're thinking about a future without Crosby? His ability to stay healthy has been highly questionable.

:-k

[Godfather]

Maybe they're thinking about a future without Crosby? His ability to stay healthy has been highly questionable.

:-k

Yeah I wondered the same, and Staal missed 20 games last year as well. Still seems like something you'd hold out another season to do. Crosby still has another year on his contract, as does Stall. Then again, next season is a huge one for the Penguins because (according to Cap geek) it looks like they only have 3 forwards locked up for more than this upcoming season!

[DemonGeminiX]

NJ Devils 0
LA Kings 4

The Kings lead the series 3 games to none.

[Godfather]

Crazy :lol:


Canadiens are expected to announce Michel Therrien as their new head coach in the next day or two!

[Godfather]

Yikes... 66 shows that had better ratings than this year's Stanley Cup finals

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/66-shows-that-had-better-ratings-than-the-first-tw

[DemonGeminiX]

Yikes... 66 shows that had better ratings than this year's Stanley Cup finals

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/66-shows-that-had-better-ratings-than-the-first-tw

Well, if they put it back on ESPN instead of making people pay extra for specialty channels to watch it, then maybe it would have fucking higher ratings.

[-(

[DemonGeminiX]

By the way, Simon Gagne played 6 minutes tonight so at the very least, if they win, his name will be on the cup.

[Godfather]

Well, if they put it back on ESPN instead of making people pay extra for specialty channels to watch it, then maybe it would have fucking higher ratings.

[-(

Shame you guys don't get CBC feeds of hockey games. Jim Hughson is so awesome for play-by-play, even if Coaches Corner is a little wacko.

[Godfather]

http://i45.tinypic.com/hx15zm.jpg

[samarchepas]

http://i45.tinypic.com/hx15zm.jpg

That's just.....:rofl:!!!!!!

BTW The Habs hired Michel Therrien as their new (KInda :lol:) head coach.
Thank god Marc Crawford didn't get the job!!

[Godfather]

I'd probably take Crawford... he has 3 times the experience coaching and a Cup under his belt. Therrien has a few shitty seasons and has been canned halfway through seasons twice.

Sounds like Patrick Roy got reasonably far in the talks, wonder if he'll take another NHL job. And I say take not get, because he's obviously wealthy and happy enough to only take something decent.

[samarchepas]

I'd probably take Crawford... he has 3 times the experience coaching and a Cup under his belt. Therrien has a few shitty seasons and has been canned halfway through seasons twice.

Sounds like Patrick Roy got reasonably far in the talks, wonder if he'll take another NHL job. And I say take not get, because he's obviously wealthy and happy enough to only take something decent.
Look at Crawford's record after the lockout and say that again :lol: (He missed the playoffs *5* times in a row with 3 different teams!!)

[Joebob034]

Shame you guys don't get CBC feeds of hockey games. Jim Hughson is so awesome for play-by-play, even if Coaches Corner is a little wacko.

We get CBC in Detroit, but I was always partial to Bob Cole myself

[DemonGeminiX]

Holy shit, will somebody score a freakin' goal already?!

[Godfather]

Tight game eh!

[DemonGeminiX]

Yeah. :|

It makes me wanna see a game 4 with 2 goalies that suck. Have a final score of like 10 - 11 in OT.

[DemonGeminiX]

Finally! Sheesh.

[DemonGeminiX]

Here we go. Now it's tied at 1.

[DemonGeminiX]

Boom! Devils score.

[Godfather]

Big goal!

[DemonGeminiX]

Not bad for a rookie.

[DemonGeminiX]

Devils are gonna force a game 5.

[Godfather]

Dammit, not good for my pool :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

http://i.imgur.com/OcDNt.gif

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1212555-adult-film-star-taylor-stevens-distracts-devils-coach-at-stanley-cup

[deebakes]

big ol' titties :tup:

[Joebob034]

Everyone saw this coming, still sucks though.

STUART DEALT TO SAN JOSE: Brad Stuart's rights have been traded to the San Jose Sharks for the rights to forward Andrew Murray and a conditional pick in the 2014 NHL Draft

[Richard Cranium]

Kings Win the Cup..

[Richard Cranium]

Quick awarded the Conn Smythe for playoff MVP

[DemonGeminiX]

Gagne finally gets his name on the Cup. I am happy for him, and for Carter and Richards.

:tup:

[deebakes]

Yay for Quick! That dude was unbelievable this playoff run :tup:

[DemonGeminiX]

Oh hey, almost forgot. History was made: This is the first 8th-seeded team to ever come out of either conference to win the Cup.

[RBP]

I caught the third period tonight.

[Joebob034]

LA Kings - Stanley Cup champions, it just doesn't sound right

[Godfather]

Great for the Kings, good to see them win for that team and their fans.

[samarchepas]

Great for the Kings, good to see them win for that team and their fans.

That's how I feel about it (46 years-ish without a Cup!)
It just goes to proves that all you have to do is get to the playoffs...then anything can happen (Both LA and the Devils didn't make it last year)

[FBD]

0-0, I leave and go home, seemed like 10 min, 3-0. wtf! next thing I know I turned my head and its 4-0, and when I saw the pig pile on the kings net I says you guys are done and shut it :lol:

[Hal-9000]

My hometown (Calgary) must be happy that they got rid of Sutter :lol:

[Noilly Pratt]

That was a good game. So was the previous one as well.

[Richard Cranium]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TAYLOR-STEVENS-AUTOGRAPHED-SILVER-SHIRT-WORN-TO-THE-STANLEY-CUP-FINALS-GAME-4-/270996473257?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f18a605a9

[Cactus]

I clicked the link....no wonder the camera didn't pan up to her face.

[Godfather]

Dustin Brown let his kids blow bubbles and drink chocolate milk in the Cup today :lol:

[FBD]

0-0, I leave and go home, seemed like 10 min, 3-0. wtf! next thing I know I turned my head and its 4-0, and when I saw the pig pile on the kings net I says you guys are done and shut it :lol:

Looks like I missed the entire game in those few minutes - my brother was telling me the refs missed a huge call on the kings, then turned around and a couple minutes later made the boarding call against the devils and gave 'em a 5 minute major for it and bam, 3-0 and that's the fuggin game right there. Sans that call, or if they actually made the call against the kings, it was an entirely different game.

that sounds fkn weak as all hell!!! If it went down like that, fuck this stanley cup this year, I'da went and left a huge beer piss on the ref's car.

[samarchepas]

Can't wait for the draft next week! (The Habs changed every coach and the GM they had last year except for the goalie coach :lol: )
Now PLEASE get rid of Gomez!

[Godfather]

Can't wait for the draft next week! (The Habs changed every coach and the GM they had last year except for the goalie coach :lol: )
Now PLEASE get rid of Gomez!

Who is going to take Gomez :lol:

[samarchepas]

Who is going to take Gomez :lol:

Nobody :lol: (I was talking about sending him to the minors OR buying him out)

[samarchepas]

Ok now this is just scary...Pierre McGuire just said on NBC that he would trade PK Subban and the 3rd overall pick the Habs have for the 1st overall the Oilers have...WTF is that guy thinking?!? Giving away one of your best prospects for someone that has played 0 games in the NHL when chances are that the player the Habs really need will still be available at the 3rd spot (Alex Galchenyuk, 6''2 Center)
To think that this guy came close to be the new GM...

[samarchepas]

Exactly as I thought :lol: Habs drafted Alex Galchenyuk! "sacrificing" Subban just to get Yakupov (Which he will probably a great player)...is not what the Habs need

[Godfather]

Favorite parts of the draft: Burke claiming he would have chosen Morgan Reilly first overall

Best trade: Sutter for Staal. Awesome deal for both sides, I can't wait to see a line with Skinner, Staal, Staal. Or having two lines centered by Staals :lol:

[MrsM]

Favorite parts of the draft: Burke claiming he would have chosen Morgan Reilly first overall

Best trade: Sutter for Staal. Awesome deal for both sides, I can't wait to see a line with Skinner, Staal, Staal. Or having two lines centered by Staals :lol:

Burke :facepalm:

[samarchepas]

Favorite parts of the draft: Burke claiming he would have chosen Morgan Reilly first overall

Best trade: Sutter for Staal. Awesome deal for both sides, I can't wait to see a line with Skinner, Staal, Staal. Or having two lines centered by Staals :lol:

3 Staal are with the Hurricanes as of now (Marc is with Rangers and Jared is in the AHL but the Hurricanes could call him back up is they wanted)
Morgan Reilly first overall? :rofl: (Not saying that he isn't going to be good) but there was three (As of now) big names in the draft, Yakupov,Murray and Galchenyuk

[Godfather]

Yeah what a clown... we're sure you didn't want Yakupov :roll:

Poor Jared... that kid is flipping between teams, and even has a stint down in the ECHL last year. Pretty big shadow he lives in. Hopefully his bros give him an allowance :P

[samarchepas]

Yeah what a clown... we're sure you didn't want Yakupov :roll:

Poor Jared... that kid is flipping between teams, and even has a stint down in the ECHL last year. Pretty big shadow he lives in. Hopefully his bros give him an allowance :P

Honestly...Yakupov's attitude kinda scares me...When he was asked what if he was not drafted 1st overall...he just replied "I WANT to be first...nothing else"

[Godfather]

Some guys on TSN were predicting today that Yakupov could be the only guy in that draft who plays the entire season in the show 2012/13 season. Maybe 3 from this year make it right away, max... according to them. Pretty lean year they were predicting I guess. But what the hell do they know

The kid picked dead last in the final round of the draft was predicted to go Top 10 this year by analysts in 2011. Now he was lucky to have been picked at all

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Local sports radio just announced that Super Joe Sakic has been elected to the HOF in his first year of eligibility :thumbsup:

[Godfather]

Local sports radio just announced that Super Joe Sakic has been elected to the HOF in his first year of eligibility :thumbsup:

Awesome :mrgreen: Burnaby boy! Same birthplace as me.

Also Pavel Bure got inducted... he was a favorite of mine growing up but a bit of a prick in hindsight

[samarchepas]

Goaltender Cory Schneider has agreed in principle to a three-year, $12 million deal with the Vancouver Canucks.
The Pittsburgh Penguins announced Thursday that captain Sidney Crosby will sign a 12-year, $104.4 million contract extension on Sunday that begins after next season.
Jonathan Quick agreed to a 10-year contract extension on Thursday with the Los Angeles Kings, who locked up their playoff MVP goalie through the 2022-23 season.
Lots of signings today :lol:

EDIT: ANOTHER one :lol: The Boston Bruins have locked up next season's No. 1 netminder, agreeing to terms with Tuukka Rask on a one-year, $3.5 million contract.

[Godfather]

Huge day for deals yesterday I'm sure this weekend will bring a few more too :lol:

Stoked on the Schneider deal... little surprised it happened before news about Luongo. He basically said he wouldn't sign if Luo wasn't gone. And the Canucks can't pay $9 mil/year on goaltending either

Crosby's deal sure is massive... hope they have a lot of insurance in there for that conky

[samarchepas]

Huge day for deals yesterday I'm sure this weekend will bring a few more too :lol:

Stoked on the Schneider deal... little surprised it happened before news about Luongo. He basically said he wouldn't sign if Luo wasn't gone. And the Canucks can't pay $9 mil/year on goaltending either

Crosby's deal sure is massive... hope they have a lot of insurance in there for that conky
I don't see Luongo being back next year, both sides want out, but Luongo pretty much controls where he goes at this point. He refused to go to Toronto earlier last week (Can't blame him, the medias there are worst than Vancouver :lol: )
and Crosby...12 years is VERY long for someone when an history in concussions.

[Godfather]

I'm still a little stunned about him refusing TO, it sounded like that deal was wrapped up. Then the Leafs traded Shenn for JVR and that went to hell :lol: Now it sounds like he could go to Florida still, but rumor is that Gillis wants too much for him. In my dreams we get Campbell in return, but I think that's probably not an option and asking too much

[samarchepas]

I'm still a little stunned about him refusing TO, it sounded like that deal was wrapped up. Then the Leafs traded Shenn for JVR and that went to hell :lol: Now it sounds like he could go to Florida still, but rumor is that Gillis wants too much for him. In my dreams we get Campbell in return, but I think that's probably not an option and asking too much

Would you want to be traded to Toronto? :lol: (Defensively they are nothing great to begin with and again, the medias are worse there than Vancouver...most likely why he wants out)
Apparently there was a deal to Chicago too...I'm not surprised at ALL that he refused that one :lol: (With the bad blood between both teams)

[Godfather]

Dammit... that little shit Justin Schultz signed with the Oilers. I get why, but I was hoping he'd sign here.

[samarchepas]

Dammit... that little shit Justin Schultz signed with the Oilers. I get why, but I was hoping he'd sign here.

I don't get all the hype with that guy...He has yet to play a single game in the league, might be talented but still unproven.

[deebakes]

Also Pavel Bure got inducted... he was a favorite of mine growing up but a bit of a prick in hindsight

:+1:

i loved that guy, he first got me interested in following the canucks back when they had their good logo :lol:

[Godfather]

I don't get all the hype with that guy...He has yet to play a single game in the league, might be talented but still unproven.

Ya it remains to be seen... but every scout out there seems to think he's something special so I'd much rather seem him in our jersey being a disappointment for under a million, than in an Oilers jersey :lol:

[samarchepas]

Ya it remains to be seen... but every scout out there seems to think he's something special so I'd much rather seem him in our jersey being a disappointment for under a million, than in an Oilers jersey :lol:

He COULD be great for them, since they need defense BADLY (Nothing new :lol: ) The thing that bothers me a lot here, is that he used a loophole in the CBA to be a UFA at just 21 instead of 27...

[Godfather]

Ya, it should be closed. The Ducks got screwed on that one.

I love Bob Mackenzie's tweet: "If you're a Duck fan, you're entitled to be bitter. Sorta like Oiler fans when Pronger left town 6 yrs ago...for Anaheim" :rofl:

[Godfather]

@aaronward_nhl Ray Whitney agreed to terms w/ Dallas Stars at $9 million over 2 years. It is $4 million salary and $500000 in bonuses each year. ‪#TSN

[Godfather]

@DarrenDreger 1 year, $1 mil for Armstrong in Montreal. "I'm jacked." he says

@TSNBobMcKenzie David Moss has agreed to terms on a two year deal with PHX.

[samarchepas]

Habs added Prust,Bouillon and Armstrong, FINALLY those in charge saw the toughness problem they had! (Now someone to score on the 2nd line please)

[Godfather]

Good moves for the Habs! Good to see.


Canucks lost Salo :( :( But gained Jason Garisson. Overall a big step up for the Blue Line.

[samarchepas]

Good moves for the Habs! Good to see.


Canucks lost Salo :( :( But gained Jason Garisson. Overall a big step up for the Blue Line.

A step up yes, but 6 years at 4.6M$ OUCH (The guy is good, but not that much imo)
Overpaying is "normal" on free agency day though :lol: (4 years/ 10M$ for Prust...but it was the price to pay to get him)
Gaustad got 13M$ for 4 years :lol: and another funny one, Ducks sign Souray for 3 years/11M$!!!

[Godfather]

Dude Salo got $3.75 per :lol: That's the most ridiculous.

Gotta disagree a bit on Garisson. His contract is in the middle of Bieksa and Hamhuis', and he has similar numbers (30ish) to several dmen around the league making more (Burns, Martin, Komisarek, Goligoski ect). He turned down big money to play in Van, and $4 mil range is normal for a top 4 dman. As you said, it was a lean year for UFA's, and he's locked in for 6 years in the prime of his career! All said and done, I wouldn't bat an eye at that price

[samarchepas]

Dude Salo got $3.75 per :lol: That's the most ridiculous.

Gotta disagree a bit on Garisson. His contract is in the middle of Bieksa and Hamhuis', and he has similar numbers (30ish) to several dmen around the league making even more (Burns, Martin, Komisarek, Goligoski ect). He turned down more money to play in Van, and $4 mil range is normal for a top 4 dman. As you said, it was a lean year for UFA's, and he's locked in for 6 years in the prime of his career! All said and done, I didn't really bat an eye at that price

Burke is still regretting this one :lol: Again, I'm not saying that he is bad, but seeing him play in the east all year, I don't (as most people I've asked about it) think he was worth 4.6M$

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Brodeur signs a 2 year extension with the Devils for $9 million

[samarchepas]

Brodeur signs a 2 year extension with the Devils for $9 million

I could NOT imagine him with another team...good to see that they found money to pay him :lol: (They have HUGE financial problems there)

[Joebob034]

Wings sing Jordin Tootoo? I fuckin hate that guy, although I am glad to see Mikael Samuelsson back, he seemed to always come up big in the playoffs when they won it in '08

[Godfather]

glad to see Mikael Samuelsson back, he seemed to always come up big in the playoffs when they won it in '08

He was pretty damn good here. Not so much in Florida, but the Wings love the old guys so he'll probably score 25 goals again :lol:


I need this fuggin' Luongo trade to Florida to happen. I can't keep checking twitter and sportsnet for it this much :lol:

[Joebob034]

I need this fuggin' Luongo trade to Florida to happen. I can't keep checking twitter and sportsnet for it this much :lol:

I know, I keep waiting for the Wings sign Suter headline but no luck yet :tapfoot:

[DemonGeminiX]

According to a report, the Flyers are still on Rick Nash's short list of teams he'd agree to be traded to.

http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/flyers-talk/Report-Flyers-still-on-Nashs-list?blockID=734110&feedID=695

[Godfather]

According to a report, the Flyers are still on Rick Nash's short list of teams he'd agree to be traded to.

http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/flyers-talk/Report-Flyers-still-on-Nashs-list?blockID=734110&feedID=695

Oh my god, as if I don't have enough reasons to cheer for the Flyers over the Canucks already :lol: That guy is the shit... hope it happens

[DemonGeminiX]

The Flyers extended offers to both Suter and Parise, but the word is that neither wants to come to Philly. Matt Carle is a free agent, and still waiting to see what he's going to do. The Flyers want him back, but free agency is free agency. Jagr is a free agent as well, and he's supposedly being looked at by a ton of teams.

They resigned Michael Leighton as backup to Bryzgalov now that Bobrovsky is gone.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

...but the word is that neither wants to come to Philly....

Can't blame them there :tup:

[Godfather]

:lol: Is Philly that bad?


I'm surprised if Jag didn't return! The guy got all chocked up after they were knocked out and said it was the most fun he'd ever had in a season of hockey. Thought he was a fantastic fit there!

[DemonGeminiX]

No, Philly's not bad. Lance is just a hater.

[DemonGeminiX]

Jagr goes to the Dallas Stars on a 1-year $4.5 million deal.

[Godfather]

Weird... why Dallas, unless it's all about the money

Come to think about it, isn't the rumor that Jagr gambled his money away :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

Weird... why Dallas, unless it's all about the money

Come to think about it, isn't the rumor that Jagr gambled his money away :lol:

He always said it wasn't about the money, but they always say it isn't about the money. To be honest, I'm not surprised in the least. I never really liked the guy to begin with. He was full of shit all those years when he was with Pittsburgh, and he's still full of shit.

I don't know about any gambling rumor. I heard the same thing about Chelios the last few years before he retired. Truth be told, you can't hold it against any guy for wanting to keep playing... how old was Gordie Howe when he finally hung it up? How many other old timers are there that kept playing as they got into their 40s and 50s?

[DemonGeminiX]

There were reports that said that Jagr was unhappy about being taken off the first line and the first power play unit when his production slumped at the end of the season. His time was reduced when he came back from an injury too. If that's true, then there's his true colors. All about the man, not about what's best for the team. With that in mind, it's kinda easy to see that it is indeed about the money.

[samarchepas]

Let's be honest here, he won the Cup twice already, is 40 and has nothing to prove so yes money is a big factor here (He loves hockey but will go where the paycheck is bigger...might have other reasons that we don't/probably never know.)

[Godfather]

Wo wo wo let's not bring Gordie into this gents :lol: The man just wanted to play hockey with his son, and loved the game more than anyone.

Jagr is pretty much why the Eastern Europeans have the rep they do in this league :lol:

[samarchepas]

Wo wo wo let's not bring Gordie into this gents :lol: The man just wanted to play hockey with his son, and loved the game more than anyone.

Jagr is pretty much why the Eastern Europeans have the rep they do in this league :lol:
Yet he won 2 Stanley Cups and scored 665 goals :lol:

[Godfather]

Not that he's not one of the greats, wouldn't debate that. Jags won two cups early and wasn't the star on those teams, he was a kid. As a superstar, he never won a thing in the NHL. Flash and fortune came first... or at least that's what he allowed it to look like

Not all the Eastern Europeans deserve to be painted with that brush... Kovalchuck probably doesn't. But Semin, Radulov, Ovie, dating back to Bure and Jagr. I dono man, I see why people feel the way they do :lol:

[samarchepas]

Not that he's not one of the greats, wouldn't debate that. Jags won two cups early and wasn't the star on those teams, he was a kid. As a superstar, he never won a thing in the NHL. Flash and fortune came first... or at least that's what he allowed it to look like

Not all the Eastern Europeans deserve to be painted with that brush... Kovalchuck probably doesn't. But Semin, Radulov, Ovie, dating back to Bure and Jagr. I dono man, I see why people feel the way they do :lol:

I try not to go there :lol: (I can name QUITE a few north americans that are worse than some that you named :lol:...we got a few of them with the Habs :( )

[Godfather]

Not worse than Semin... that guy has to be the biggest waste of talent in a decade :lol:

[samarchepas]

Could Parise and Suter PLEASE make up their freakin' mind already?!? (It's not that I really expect them to be Habs, but they are paralysing the entire UFA market because GMs are waiting to see where to go!)

[DemonGeminiX]

Let's be honest here, he won the Cup twice already, is 40 and has nothing to prove so yes money is a big factor here (He loves hockey but will go where the paycheck is bigger...might have other reasons that we don't/probably never know.)

:hand:

Lemieux won those 2 cups. Jagr was just along for the ride.

[DemonGeminiX]

According to reports, Suter is going to the Minnesota Wild. He turned down the Flyer's offer.

http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/flyers-talk/Report-FA-defenseman-Suter-chooses-Wild?blockID=735318&feedID=704

[samarchepas]

:shock: BOTH Parise and Suter are going there!

[DemonGeminiX]

You don't say?

8-[

[samarchepas]

You don't say?

8-[
You said Suter, nothing about Parise ;)

[DemonGeminiX]

You said Suter, nothing about Parise ;)

You missed it. I posted the same thing at the same time as you. Yours came first, so I edited mine.

[samarchepas]

You missed it. I posted the same thing at the same time as you. Yours came first, so I edited mine.

It was replaced by the "You don't say" post? :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

It was replaced by the "You don't say" post? :lol:

Yeah. I'm a slow-poke poster. Everybody's always beating me to post the same damn thing.

:lol:

[Joebob034]

shit, I didn't think the Wings had a real shot at Parise, but I thought they were the favorites for Suter. Well, we'll see if they make a play for Nash or Weber

[samarchepas]

shit, I didn't think the Wings had a real shot at Parise, but I thought they were the favorites for Suter. Well, we'll see if they make a play for Nash or Weber

Parise wanted to play where he was born and Suter and him are good friends, they wanted to play together. Should be interesting if Howson will be less greedy now (Columbus GM) for Nash.

[Godfather]

Holy shit, Parise and Suter both to Min, what a wild day :lol: They added $15 million in cap and still aren't contenders for the Cup :rofl:

Although a line of Koivu Heatley and Parise could be unreal

[DemonGeminiX]

Tampa Bay signed Matt Carle.

[DemonGeminiX]

The Flyers signed LW Ruslan Fedotenko to a one year deal and D Bruno Gervais to a 2 year deal.

[DemonGeminiX]

Patrick Mullen, son of Flyers assistant coach Joey, was signed by the Vancouver Canucks on Thursday. A defenseman, the 26-year-old had originally been in the LA Kings organization with the Manchester Monarchs.

[samarchepas]

Favorite parts of the draft: Burke claiming he would have chosen Morgan Reilly first overall

Best trade: Sutter for Staal. Awesome deal for both sides, I can't wait to see a line with Skinner, Staal, Staal. Or having two lines centered by Staals :lol:

I know its an old post and all...but some info I saw somewhere, he wanted Galchenyuk from the start...Habs took him in 3rd rank and he had to take Reilly
If you want to lie to people about something...don't tell your plan to the Toronto Media before you do it:lol: (BUT we all know Burke likes cameras :lol: )

[Godfather]

I still don't understand why they haven't fired Burke... the experiment is over, he's had 4 seasons, 4 trade deadlines, 3 drafts, 3 July 1's, and they're well below .500, haven't made the playoffs and really haven't gotten any better where it counts.

[samarchepas]

I still don't understand why they haven't fired Burke... the experiment is over, he's had 4 seasons, 4 trade deadlines, 3 drafts, 3 July 1's, and they're well below .500, haven't made the playoffs and really haven't gotten any better where it counts.

They just got used to not make the playoffs....:lol: (Pierre Gauthier had his job 2 years and got fired...not the same I guess :lol: )

[Godfather]

Luongo had his first interview since the end of the season, and said 'it's been a great run in Vancouver but it's time to move on'

[Joebob034]

already excited
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/story/2012-07-11/winter-classic-alumni-game/56149406/1

[Godfather]

That's going to be awesome!

[DemonGeminiX]

:-s

Tie Domi?

[deebakes]

:dance:

http://i.imgur.com/TTzbl.jpg

[DemonGeminiX]

:meh:

Shuddup.

[Godfather]

COMING SOON TO A MOVIE SCREEN NEAR YOU: Rick Nash, Bobby Ryan, Roberto Luongo and Dwight Howard star in THE UNTRADEABLES.

[DemonGeminiX]

http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/flyers-talk/NHL-Notes-Flyers-still-on-Nashs-short-li?blockID=738624&feedID=695

But the commenters seem to think Bobby Ryan would be a better option.

[samarchepas]

http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/flyers-talk/NHL-Notes-Flyers-still-on-Nashs-short-li?blockID=738624&feedID=695

But the commenters seem to think Bobby Ryan would be a better option.

I'd go for Nash personally...but from what I heard...Columbus is being VERY greedy and want a lot in return (Nash is better than Ryan but it should also be cheaper to get him so yes in a way it could be better to get Ryan)

[DemonGeminiX]

Teemu Selanne, 42, has agreed to a 1-year $4.5 million deal with the Ducks.

[Godfather]

News trickling out of the NHL negotiations with the NHLPA isn't very promising :wha: Talk is of a shortened season not starting until around December/January. Fuck.

[samarchepas]

News trickling out of the NHL negotiations with the NHLPA isn't very promising :wha: Talk is of a shortened season not starting until around December/January. Fuck.

The first proposal got me laughing...a lot, They want to shorten the contracts length to 5 years...The irony here, Bettman is working for the League and the owners are his boss: THEY are the ones that gave the "OK" in the first place for the contracts themselves (The GM makes the contract...but no GM would make a 13 years long contract without the owner's approval, or he wouldn't keep his job very long :lol:

[Godfather]

The first proposal got me laughing...a lot, They want to shorten the contracts length to 5 years...The irony here, Bettman is working for the League and the owners are his boss: THEY are the ones that gave the "OK" in the first place for the contracts themselves (The GM makes the contract...but no GM would make a 13 years long contract without the owner's approval, or he wouldn't keep his job very long :lol:

It's hilarious! The league has been sending out monthly emails to players the last 7 years telling them how much money is being generated, revenue, profits ect :lol: And it's a lot. Now they're back to this act of turning their pockets inside out and looking broke at the bargaining table?!?! That's bullshit.

Unlike last lockout, the fans are much less likely to side with Ownership this time (most of us then said "I'd play for free, so be happy with what you get"). This league has grown yet another billion dollars in revenue since then. It is not broke. And in terms of 'stability' owners claim there isn't... just look at Winnipeg. They're guaranteed sell outs for the next 5 year!!!

This go around, I do not believe the players need to agree to any of the massive cutbacks these owners are pretending they need. NHL'ers put their lives on the line while ownership has compromised safety. They are members of a business, and deserve a fair cut of profits (50% was, and is fair) - nobody comes to see ownes, they come to see Crosbys and Ovetchkins. They deserve to have their paycheques even if they are badly hurt on the job and don't play again. And like Sam said, they just signed these contracts, they didn't write them.

/rant

[DemonGeminiX]

Rising costs of operations?

[Godfather]

:lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

All kidding aside, I stand by my belief that professional athletes don't deserve to get paid as much as they do. As far as I'm concerned, they don't provide a necessary service to civilization, they don't push forward progress, and the argument can be made that they don't improve the economic situation of the communities that they and their team are in.

Also, them putting their lives on the line to play the game is their choice. No one put a gun to their head and said "you must play hockey". They could have always chosen to do something else for a living that people would consider "safer". I say the same thing about football.

Don't get me wrong, I love sports (except basketball and golf), but there's no way in hell any of the shit associated with sports should cost as much as it does. It's a waste and the money could be better used elsewhere.

So I am completely unsympathetic to the athletes' "plight".

[samarchepas]

All kidding aside, I stand by my belief that professional athletes don't deserve to get paid as much as they do. As far as I'm concerned, they don't provide a necessary service to civilization, they don't push forward progress, and the argument can be made that they don't improve the economic situation of the communities that they and their team are in.

Also, them putting their lives on the line to play the game is their choice. No one put a gun to their head and said "you must play hockey" They could have always chosen to do something else for a living that people would consider "safer". I say the same thing about football.

Don't get me wrong, I love sports (except basketball and golf), but there's no way in hell any of the shit associated with sports should cost as much as it does. It's a waste and the money could be better used elsewhere.

So I am completely unsympathetic to the athletes' "plight".
See hockey as a business and not a sport, the league is making money, players and owners are "business partners", they are just getting their share of the cake. Is it more than it should be? sure, but know from facts (Forbes) Habs owner sees his team make around 3M$ PER GAME from tickets ALONE (Including suites ) He bought them for 575M$ and will make a profit quite fast :lol:

And about the bold part, it's not rare to see players give millions to the community ;) (The money would be there anyway if it doesn't go to the players, it would just go to the owners pockets)

[DemonGeminiX]

Take it away from the owners too. I'm not saying they're not to blame. They're an even bigger part of the problem. The fact remains is that none of these people are worth what they're paid to do what they do.

[samarchepas]

Take it away from the owners too. I'm not saying they're not to blame. They're an even bigger part of the problem. The fact remains is that none of these people are worth what they're paid to do what they do.

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer it seems :( (Nothing new here...always been this way since money existed )
politicians,actors,singers etc....are they worth millions for what they do? Of course not, but it is the way it is I guess.

[samarchepas]

:shock:!!!!!
Shea Weber signed an offer sheet with the Flyers!!!
100M$/14 years, The Preds have 7 days to match the offer or he is a Flyers and the Preds get 4 first round picks from the Flyers.

[DemonGeminiX]

If the Preds don't match, Nashville will be a ghost town for hockey before long. Suter's gone, Weber's gone... they don't have much left.

[Godfather]

These athletes train hard their entire lives, they risk failing and becoming nobodies and start pushing for this at the same age that a student pushes for med school or law school, maybe younger. Just like everyone who makes great money, they pour their blood sweat and tears into the job. With all this stuff about concussions recently, I have more respect for them than ever. As for owners, these teams are still high risk investments. It's basic capitalism that there is big money to be earned and lost. You can't take it away just because they're playing a game.

[Godfather]

:shock:!!!!!
Shea Weber signed an offer sheet with the Flyers!!!
100M$/14 years, The Preds have 7 days to match the offer or he is a Flyers and the Preds get 4 first round picks from the Flyers.

So awesome, Twitter is blowing up over this one :lol: I hope the Preds don't match, I want to see him as a Flyer badly

[DemonGeminiX]

These athletes train hard their entire lives, risk failing and becoming nobodies. Just like everyone who makes great money, they pour their blood sweat and tears into becoming pros, and with all this stuff about concussions recently, I have more respect for them than ever. As for owners, these teams are still high risk investments. It's basic capitalism that there is big money to be earned and lost. You can't take it away just because they're playing a game

:hand:

Yes I can.

[Godfather]

:hand:

Yes I can.
http://i47.tinypic.com/miyqhd.jpg
:lol:


I used to totally agree with what DGX is saying, but my mind has changed. The NHL grew from its grassroots, to over $3 billion revenue last year, up 50% from the Lockout....

As long as there are people filling the $200 seats, and companies paying to advertise, there is huge money going to either athletes, or to investment groups and wealthy families.
So for my money, I'd like to see half go to the people who sell seats, who we watch play and actually matter and who mostly are just good Canadian and American boys from small farm towns :lol:

[samarchepas]

So awesome, Twitter is blowing up over this one :lol: I hope the Preds don't match, I want to see him as a Flyer badly

Yes it is! :lol: (Got the news there)

[Godfather]

Yes it is! :lol: (Got the news there)

Yeah same... late announcement. Dreger is working late.



:rofl:

Kevin Bieksa ‏@kbieksa3
‪#Weber‬ ‪#offersheet‬ @Ryan_Kesler Now that's an offer sheet Kes! Makes yours look like 2 three year olds bartering for the red lego...

[DemonGeminiX]

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I used to totally agree with what DGX is saying, but my mind has changed. The NHL grew from its grassroots, to over $3 billion revenue last year, up 50% from the Lockout....

As long as there are people filling the $200 seats, and companies paying to advertise, there is huge money going to either athletes, or to investment groups and wealthy families.
So for my money, I'd like to see half go to the people who sell seats, who we watch play and actually matter and who mostly are just good Canadian and American boys from small farm towns :lol:

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All that money could be used for research to find cures for diseases, pushing technology further, or otherwise benefitting mankind in a productive manner. Sports are entertainment, nothing more. Entertainment is completely unnecessary to a human being's survival. Advertising is horseshit. If you make a good product that's worth it's weight, it'll sell.

These people don't deserve the money they get.

And :woot: Shea Weber!

[DemonGeminiX]

By the way, I have no earthly idea who the hell that guy is in that pic.

[DemonGeminiX]

Holy shit, dude! What are you doing? Writing a book? Post the damn thing already!

:lol:

[Godfather]

By the way, I have no earthly idea who the hell that guy is in that pic.

It was McCarthy, I was calling you a commie :lol: :P


:hand:

All that money could be used for research to find cures for diseases, pushing technology further, or otherwise benefitting mankind in a productive manner. Sports are entertainment, nothing more. Entertainment is completely unnecessary to a human being's survival. Advertising is horseshit. If you make a good product that's worth it's weight, it'll sell.

These people don't deserve the money they get.

And :woot: Shea Weber!

Agreed on Weber. If he can't be a Canuck, Philly is my next favorite stop!

But I totally disagree with your argument. Our countries run on private enterprise. You can't snuff Nurf on its profits for selling a totally useless toy, or golf courses for selling something that nobody needs. If you really think the profits are ridiculous, increase taxation or have the public own the local team... that's working great in Phoenix.

When I speak of advertising, I'm talking about Nike and Pepsi paying the NHL to have their product seen during these games, not on the side of a Research lab. When I'm paying $200 for hockey, it's because there's an issue of supply and demand driving prices up to that level, but I'm still willing to pay 'x' dollars to see what the NHL offers... not to see 'mankind benefit in a productive manner.' That's basic economics. Sports franchises have every right to compete for my disposable income. And they're doing it well - therefore the money they get is earned.

So the NHL is business, just like anything else. It's up to them to enjoy their profits and distribute them in a fair manor, and as a paying customer my two cents is that fair is splitting at least half the pie with those who form the talent and attract the crowds. Simple as that. With this CBA being up, I think the Ownership are full of shit saying they're broke. They're just being slave drivers now.

And this money doesn't go entirely to greed, as it may at Apple or Pepsi (both selling unnecessary products). Hockey gives back: several players on the Canucks have given away hundreds of thousands of their own dollars and more importantly they give their own time. And the team runs Canuck Place to house families with sick kids at the nearby hospital, with many of the player's wives volunteering there full time. All good stuff that they don't have to do.

[DemonGeminiX]

:shock:

Wow, you really drank the kool-aid, didn't you? You must work for a bank or something. How does it feel to know that you've sold your soul to the system in the name of profit?

And calling me a commie, too. Wow.

:lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

Oh and by the way...

:nana:








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[Godfather]

:lol: You shit disturber :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

All kidding aside, I stand by my belief that professional athletes don't deserve to get paid as much as they do. As far as I'm concerned, they don't provide a necessary service to civilization, they don't push forward progress, and the argument can be made that they don't improve the economic situation of the communities that they and their team are in.

Also, them putting their lives on the line to play the game is their choice. No one put a gun to their head and said "you must play hockey". They could have always chosen to do something else for a living that people would consider "safer". I say the same thing about football.

Don't get me wrong, I love sports (except basketball and golf), but there's no way in hell any of the shit associated with sports should cost as much as it does. It's a waste and the money could be better used elsewhere.

So I am completely unsympathetic to the athletes' "plight".

:agreed:

[Godfather]

Jealousy breeds contempt :P

[Godfather]

Shea Weber’s contract is the latest in NHL lunacy

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And so, the National Hockey League descends into farce.

Just as the owners are crying poor and demanding limitations on contract lengths during the opening bargaining sessions of the new collective bargaining agreement, those same owners are signing players to deals so long that calculators are needed to determine the end date.

So far, we have seen Sidney Crosby re-upped for 12 years and US$104.4-million, Zach Parise and Ryan Suter signed to matching 13-year, US$98-million contracts. And now, according to multiple reports, the Philadelphia Flyers signed Nashville Predators defenceman Shea Weber to an offer sheet late on Wednesday night that stretches on for 14 years and reportedly tops US$110-million.
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It all seems so illogical and so silly that you half-expect NHL commissioner Gary Bettman to step out of his Manhattan offices and shout, “Live from New York, it’s Saturday night!”

For now, we’ll play along and pretend this is actually happening, that team general managers are simply following the advice given to them heading into summer free agency and are conducting business as usual. If so, then good on them, because this might be the last time we see these deals.

Then again, maybe this is just the start.

It is tough to imagine what — if any — leverage Bettman will now have in CBA negotiations. Perhaps this is why NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr seemed so relaxed when presented with the league’s initial proposal last week, which essentially sought to protect the owners from themselves.

Of course, it is difficult to blame the Flyers for what they are attempting. This is a genius, if not callous, move on their part.

The team had reportedly been attempting a trade with the Predators for Weber. When those attempts failed, the Flyers used a rarely used option in the CBA to extract the player from his team.

Anyone could have done it. That it happened now, two weeks after Nashville lost Suter in a bidding war to the Minnesota Wild, is another blow for the small-market Predators.

“Nashville was working on a trade and its believed several deadlines passed before Flyers grew tired of waiting,” reported TSN’s Darren Dreger, who broke the story. “Weber signed offer sheet.”

If you are going to sign anybody in the league to a 14-year contract worth a reported US$110-million, Weber might be the most deserving. He is a two-time Norris Trophy finalist, the kind of player that you can build a team around. Naturally, the 26-year-old would fill the soon-to-be-departed skates of Chris Pronger.

That is, if it gets that far.

The Predators have seven days to decide whether or not to match the offer. If they do not, they could receive a package of four first-round draft picks from the Flyers. Both options are enticing. But having already lost defenceman Suter to free agency this summer, the team might not be able to sell a rebuild to its fans.

So we wait and see what happens. And all the while, Donald Fehr’s smile continues to grow.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Jealousy breeds contempt :P

Jealous of what? :-s

Tell them to go out and get a real job FFS. I get so sick of players arguing with teams that they need X millions of dollars per year or they are gonna go somewhere else. It's asinine. And as far as any injury concerns, players in all sports know full well what the risks are in their chosen "profession" so don't even try and play that up.

Bottom line, they play a fucking game for a living and they get paid in one year than most people will ever make in their entire lives. They need to get over themselves and do what I tell everyone else that bitches about how bad their job is....quit! Go find another job.

[Godfather]

Jealous of what? :-s

Tell them to go out and get a real job FFS. I get so sick of players arguing with teams that they need X millions of dollars per year or they are gonna go somewhere else. It's asinine. And as far as any injury concerns, players in all sports know full well what the risks are in their chosen "profession" so don't even try and play that up.

Bottom line, they play a fucking game for a living and they get paid in one year than most people will ever make in their entire lives. They need to get over themselves and do what I tell everyone else that bitches about how bad their job is....quit! Go find another job.

How is training your entire life, sacrificing mornings, evenings, weekends, thousands of dollars and huge dedication and support from your family, not to mention your health, not a 'real job.' These athletes put a lot more to get to where they are in their careers than most of us have. I've lived with pro athletes and symphony orchestra musicians; they live very similar lives. Both real jobs.

We buy jerseys, tickets and products affiliated with sports. Players argue to get huge dollars, because that money is there for someone to take home. They are the face of a company that makes millions of dollars every night they go out there. I'm not sure where exactly all this money should go, if half doesn't go back to contracts for the few hundreds of players, instead of the one owner.

If you want to watch athletes who get an unfair cut of the profits, watch the CFL.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Man, DGX was right, you have drank the kool-aid.

:shakehead:

I'm done because obviously you don't get it.

[Godfather]

:lol: I'm very willing to read and listen man! I'm not trying to be stubborn

Just put on example on paper for me. Obviously, if I'm commissioner, I offer the NHLPA ~50% of profits. How do Lance or DGX split the money up if they get to play commissioner?

[Godfather]

Well whatever, on to more tangible and fun topics :lol:


Where is Shane Doan going to play hockey...

[samarchepas]

Well whatever, on to more tangible and fun topics :lol:


Where is Shane Doan going to play hockey...

From what I read on twitter, he wants to see what is going on in Phoenix and then decide.
He will probably stay west, UNLESS someone offers him big cash. (Like 5 millions for 5 years...even if he is 35)
BTW: There won't be any love between Holmgren and Poile from now on...:rofl:

[samarchepas]

Columbus Blue Jackets have finally parted ways with Rick Nash, trading the winger to the New York Rangers. The deal will see centres Artem Anisimov and Brandon Dubinsky, defenceman Tim Erixon and a first-round pick going to Columbus.

[DemonGeminiX]

Wow. The Rangers. The East is gonna be rough this year.