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Teh One Who Knocks
12-01-2011, 07:48 PM
BBC News Europe


A new legal regulation has come into force in Hungary making homelessness punishable by a fine of around $600 (£384) or prison.

MPs from the ruling conservative party proposed the regulation, on the grounds that Budapest could not cope with the large number of people on the streets.

Critics, including charities for the homeless, say it is unenforceable and that hostels lack sufficient places.

The Hungarian capital is said to have some 10,000 homeless people.

According to an amendment to the local government act, passed by a strong majority in parliament last month, those found sleeping on the streets will first receive a warning.

They can subsequently be imprisoned or ordered to pay the fine.
'Stretched to the limits'

The move has provoked widespread criticism, including from Hungary's human rights ombudsman, the BBC's Nick Thorpe reports.

Miklos Vecsei, deputy head of the Hungarian Maltese Charity Service, said the law had not been passed on the basis of any rational or professional criteria but because the public were fed up with the homeless.

Budapest's capacity had been stretched to the limits but deep poverty needed to be cured, not banned, he argued.

The author of the law, Mate Kocsis, is an MP from the ruling Fidesz party and a district mayor in the city.

He argues that local councils should take responsibility for tackling homelessness, and points to new schemes and places in homeless hostels.

Homeless charities argue that this will still leave between 1,000 and 3,000 homeless people without shelter.

A series of demonstrations against the new law is planned.

Acid Trip
12-01-2011, 07:50 PM
Yeah, because throwing them all in jail will somehow prevent homeless people from existing :facepalm:

Hal-9000
12-01-2011, 07:52 PM
fine a homeless person 600 dollars...because he is homeless

Did Obama's financial adviser pass that law?

Acid Trip
12-01-2011, 07:59 PM
fine a homeless person 600 dollars...because he is homeless

Did Obama's financial adviser pass that law?

And if you don't pay you go straight to jail (aka free living quarters). Wait, how does this discourage being homeless?

Hal-9000
12-01-2011, 08:03 PM
Like I tried to impart in a different thread about the death penalty.For some people in society, jail is a step up.So the implied threat of being sent to jail isn't as discouraging as it would be for you or I.It becomes plan B in some people's lives.

Hal-9000
12-01-2011, 08:04 PM
As you mentioned though AT, it does nothing to help with the problem of homelessness

PorkChopSandwiches
12-01-2011, 08:31 PM
As you mentioned though AT, it does nothing to help with the problem of homelessness

Ummmmmm, they arent homeless if they are in jail.....Duh! And the streets are clean :dance:

Hal-9000
12-01-2011, 08:33 PM
:doh:

PorkChopSandwiches
12-01-2011, 08:34 PM
I kid, I kid.... but seriously.... get a job slacker

Hal-9000
12-01-2011, 09:11 PM
We got some guys on a busy street I drive everyday, they wait for a red light, then walk up and down between the cars with signs etc..

I never give those people a cent.They can get a sign together and they can walk in between 4 lanes of traffic...they can come work in the warehouse with me

Muddy
12-01-2011, 09:23 PM
Just leave the city and don't get arrested..