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Teh One Who Knocks
12-05-2011, 12:56 PM
By HOPE YEN, Associated Press


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WASHINGTON – Unprecedented cuts by the cash-strapped U.S. Postal Service will slow first-class delivery next spring and, for the first time in 40 years, eliminate the chance for stamped letters to arrive the next day.

The estimated $3 billion in reductions, to be announced in broader detail later Monday, are part of a wide-ranging effort by the Postal Service to quickly trim costs and avert bankruptcy. They could slow everything from check payments to Netflix's DVDs-by-mail, add costs to mail-order prescription drugs, and threaten the existence of newspapers and time-sensitive magazines delivered by postal carrier to far-flung suburban and rural communities.

That birthday card mailed first-class to Mom also could arrive a day or two late, if people don't plan ahead.

"It's a potentially major change, but I don't think consumers are focused on it and it won't register until the service goes away," said Jim Corridore, analyst with S&P Capital IQ, who tracks the shipping industry. "Over time, to the extent the customer service experience gets worse, it will only increase the shift away from mail to alternatives. There's almost nothing you can't do online that you can do by mail."

The cuts would close roughly 250 of the nearly 500 mail processing centers across the country as early as next March. Because the consolidations would typically lengthen the distance mail travels from post office to processing center, the agency would also lower delivery standards for first-class mail that have been in place since 1971. Currently, first-class mail is supposed to be delivered to homes and businesses within the continental U.S. in one to three days; that will be lengthened to two to three days, meaning mailers could no longer expect next-day delivery in surrounding communities. Periodicals could take between two and nine days.

The Postal Service already has announced a 1-cent increase in first-class mail to 45 cents beginning Jan. 22.

About 42 percent of first-class mail is now delivered the following day; another 27 percent arrives in two days, about 31 percent in three days and less than 1 percent in four to five days. Following the change next spring, about 51 percent of all first-class mail is expected to arrive in two days, with most of the remainder delivered in three days.

The consolidation of mail processing centers is in addition to the planned closing of about 3,700 local post offices. In all, roughly 100,000 postal employees could be cut as a result of the various closures, resulting in savings of up to $6.5 billion a year.

Expressing urgency to reduce costs, Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe said in an interview that the agency has to act while waiting for Congress to grant it authority to reduce delivery to five days a week, raise stamp prices and reduce health care and other labor costs. The Postal Service, an independent agency of government, does not receive tax money, but is subject to congressional control of large aspects of its operations. The changes in first-class mail delivery can be implemented without permission from Congress.

After five years in the red, the post office faces imminent default this month on a $5.5 billion annual payment to the U.S. Treasury for retiree health benefits; it is projected to have a record loss of $14.1 billion next year amid steady declines in first-class mail volume. Donahoe has said the agency must make cuts of $20 billion by 2015 to be profitable.

"We have a business model that is failing. You can't continue to run red ink and not make changes," Donahoe said. "We know our business, and we listen to our customers. Customers are looking for affordable and consistent mail service, and they do not want us to take tax money."

Separate bills have passed House and Senate committees that would give the post office more authority and liquidity to stave off immediate bankruptcy. But prospects are somewhat dim for final congressional action on those bills anytime soon, especially if the measures are seen in an election year as promoting layoffs and cuts to neighborhood post offices.

The Postal Service initially announced in September it was studying the possibility of closing the processing centers and published a notice in the Federal Register seeking comments. Within 30 days, the plan elicited nearly 4,400 public comments, mostly in opposition.

Teh One Who Knocks
12-05-2011, 12:57 PM
Not sure that I understand how purposely slowing the mail delivery will save money :wtf:

Loser
12-05-2011, 01:09 PM
Well if they cut their processing centers in half, then a slow down is inevitable, but that's not the key issue here. The problem is they haven't kept up with the times. Since more and more people are using online banking, email, etc..., the only things they generally need to mail"ship" are heavy packages. DHL, UPS, and FEDEX dominate these sections of the package delivery market. So the only thing left for the USPS is spam mail and periodicals.

Teh One Who Knocks
12-05-2011, 01:18 PM
I said it before many months ago and I still stand by it...the USPS simply needs to raise the rates to cover the actual cost of mailing a letter. It's ridiculous for people to think (or expect) that for the USPS, the 43 cent stamp covers the cost of sending a letter from say, the Florida Keys to Nome, Alaska. UPS and FedEx have zone pricing systems where the farther a package travels, the more expensive it is to ship. The USPS should do the same with first class mail....if the actual cost of sending that letter from Florida to Alaska is $2.10, then charge $2.10 for it.

Muddy
12-05-2011, 01:20 PM
I think they should just cut out Saturday delivery..

Teh One Who Knocks
12-05-2011, 01:22 PM
I think they should just cut out Saturday delivery..

Or just charge a premium for it like FedEx and UPS do

Muddy
12-05-2011, 01:31 PM
We have an Asian mail carrier... And honestly I think he is trying to destroy that Jeep....

JoeyB
12-05-2011, 09:17 PM
I said it before many months ago and I still stand by it...the USPS simply needs to raise the rates to cover the actual cost of mailing a letter. It's ridiculous for people to think (or expect) that for the USPS, the 43 cent stamp covers the cost of sending a letter from say, the Florida Keys to Nome, Alaska. UPS and FedEx have zone pricing systems where the farther a package travels, the more expensive it is to ship. The USPS should do the same with first class mail....if the actual cost of sending that letter from Florida to Alaska is $2.10, then charge $2.10 for it.

But, as I countered, that means each piece of mail must be examined to determine the cost...which would be labor intensive and the last thing they need. Do you want to wait in line to have your mail cost determined?

What you do is reduce delivery to expensive areas...like I said before, once a week or even less. Or let those people in remote areas pay a premium for home mail delivery. It may sound harsh, but it will save the postal service.

Loser
12-05-2011, 09:21 PM
I said it before many months ago and I still stand by it...the USPS simply needs to raise the rates to cover the actual cost of mailing a letter. It's ridiculous for people to think (or expect) that for the USPS, the 43 cent stamp covers the cost of sending a letter from say, the Florida Keys to Nome, Alaska. UPS and FedEx have zone pricing systems where the farther a package travels, the more expensive it is to ship. The USPS should do the same with first class mail....if the actual cost of sending that letter from Florida to Alaska is $2.10, then charge $2.10 for it.

The problem is, no one mails things now, and it's only 43 cents a stamp. People are using email instead, so raising the rates is moot.

Acid Trip
12-05-2011, 09:35 PM
I said it before many months ago and I still stand by it...the USPS simply needs to raise the rates to cover the actual cost of mailing a letter. It's ridiculous for people to think (or expect) that for the USPS, the 43 cent stamp covers the cost of sending a letter from say, the Florida Keys to Nome, Alaska. UPS and FedEx have zone pricing systems where the farther a package travels, the more expensive it is to ship. The USPS should do the same with first class mail....if the actual cost of sending that letter from Florida to Alaska is $2.10, then charge $2.10 for it.

Do a little searching on how the USPS works and you'll be surprised they manage to function at all. One thing you'll find is that their governing body (the one that evaluates the business and asks for increased postage fees) is constantly being denied by the Postal Regulatory Commission.

The Postal Regulatory Commission is a set of bureaucrats that sits above the Post Office bureaucrats and decides when and how much the USPS can raise rates. So the USPS can be drowning in debt (like now) and can't raise it's own rates to cover the losses thanks to the Postal Regulatory Commission.

A prime example of bureaucracy run a muck.

PorkChopSandwiches
12-05-2011, 09:37 PM
My mail box is mostly spam anyway (but it does have nice flames painted on it)....fuck snail mail

Deepsepia
12-05-2011, 09:46 PM
The problem is simply large fixed costs with decreasing volumes = need for restructuring.

I personally find mail much more of a nuisance than it is useful: what's in the mail is either trivial, or in the rare case that its important I then have to go to the trouble of storing it somewhere.

Stuff that's in my email is searchable, indexable, saved with my reply . . . stuff that finds me by snail mail . . .

"Stuff we send" is going to be larger stuff in the future -- a new water pump for your car, not a bill or a check.

For what purpose will you need to send a letter? The only time I do it is for legal reasons, return receipt certified is still the way to go for "proof of notice", there's no email equivalent . . . yet.

Muddy
12-05-2011, 09:48 PM
My mail box is mostly spam anyway (but it does have nice flames painted on it)....fuck snail mail


Yeah!!!!

PorkChopSandwiches
12-05-2011, 09:51 PM
Yeah!!!!

:dance:

Muddy
12-05-2011, 09:59 PM
Hows that finish holding up? (It needs to be washed and washed with a carnuba wax btw..)

PorkChopSandwiches
12-05-2011, 10:02 PM
Hows that finish holding up? (It needs to be washed and washed with a carnuba wax btw..)

Still looks good, but I dont even wax my car so I dont think that will happen