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Teh One Who Knocks
02-12-2012, 01:00 PM
By Damon Poeter - PC Magazine


A study looking at the correlation between the appearance of BitTorrent in 2003 and loss of box office revenue by Hollywood films due to piracy suggests that U.S. box revenue has largely been unaffected but that international returns have been lower than they might otherwise have been absent pre-release piracy.

An abstract for the study by Brett Danaher of Wellesley College and Joel Waldfogel of the University of Minnesota is dated Jan. 16, but it just started making the rounds in the tech press on Friday.

The researchers looked at the period following the appearance of BitTorrent, but didn't indicate that they were focused just on that particular torrent. Rather they looked at what might be called the "torrent era" as a whole, measuring actual box office returns for Hollywood movies both domestically and internationally during the period against pre-torrent rates of return.

What Danaher and Waldfogel found might not be welcome news for anti-piracy advocates. For starters, the researchers say they "do not see evidence of elevated sales displacement in US box office revenue following the adoption of BitTorrent."

However, box office revenue for U.S. films has been diminished in international markets during the torrent era. But the researchers suggest that the effect is even more strongly correlated to lag times between a film's U.S. release and its release in a particular country than to the rise of online piracy.

With the growth in movie piracy since the appearance of BitTorrent in 2003, films have become available through illegal piracy immediately after release in the U.S., while they are not available for legal viewing abroad until their foreign premieres in each country," the researchers write. "We make use of this variation in international release lags to ask whether longer lags—which facilitate more local pre-release piracy—depress theatrical box office receipts, particularly after the widespread adoption of BitTorrent. We find that longer release windows are associated with decreased box office returns, even after controlling for film and country fixed effects."

The study also found that the relationship between decreased box office returns and long release windows was "much stronger in contexts where piracy is more prevalent: after BitTorrent's adoption and in heavily pirated genres."

The final verdict: international box office returns for Hollywood films "were at least 7 percent lower than they would have been in the absence of pre-release piracy," which the researchers contend is the direct result of delayed legal availability of U.S. titles in foreign markets.

Muddy
02-12-2012, 02:17 PM
I Don't think the average person has the know how or time to Pirate things when it's cheap and simple to just hit the 'purchase' or rent button through Netflix, Vudu, etc.. Half these new Tv's have the streaming built right in...

Teh One Who Knocks
02-12-2012, 02:20 PM
Agreed, but notice that in every story talking about piracy, Hollywood is claiming that they have lost $100 bazillion...they just pull numbers out of their ass to make it sound like it will be the end of the movie industry.

Loser
02-12-2012, 02:36 PM
Hollywood will be the end of the movie industry.

Greedy fks that are turning out shit movies, and wondering why they can't turn a profit.

Pony
02-12-2012, 02:53 PM
Agreed, but notice that in every story talking about piracy, Hollywood is claiming that they have lost $100 bazillion...they just pull numbers out of their ass to make it sound like it will be the end of the movie industry.

Yep, they have tried (very successfully) to convince the powers that be that every single illegal download of a movie, tv show, song and book is a lost sale. This is simply not the case. First, people often will download multiple versions (cam, ts,screener, full release, extended cut, etc.) of the same movie as the different releases come out. This is NOT five lost sales. Add to that many people download stuff they would never buy/rent anyway and also get media that is not available for purchase in their country.
Another Swiss? study I read shows that people spend nearly the same amount on media whether they pirate or not.

The antiquated industry just needs to get with the times and offer this stuff in a fast cheap manner without restrictions and people will pay for it. This has been proven with the success of Itunes and Netflix who the media giants fought to stop. Bottom line is the pirate community does have disposable income to spend and are willing to spend it. Just look at how many people donate to forums and look how much money has been made by the likes of Megaupload and others.

No matter what laws are passed piracy will always be here, it's up to the MPAA,RIAA whether they want to change with the times and put out quality content for a reasonable cost or continue spending hundreds of millions every year on new encryptions that are broken in days, "donations" (bribes) to politicians, court/lawyer costs and other anti-piracy measures.

PorkChopSandwiches
02-12-2012, 03:25 PM
Or they could just do what we have all been saying and give the consumer what they want. release the damn movie everywhere at the same time :roll:

FBD
02-12-2012, 03:33 PM
The antiquated industry just needs to get with the times and offer this stuff in a fast cheap manner without restrictions and people will pay for it.

capitalist solutions :lol: whoda thunk! :thumbsup: even making shitty movies cheaply available would give them o'plenty, but since those hollywood fcuks think they have the corner on the movie market they dont think there's anything wrong with the veritable only game in town exercising its monopoly muscles and beating people hard...

but god fuggin forbid any other industry has a monopoly in their market, those fools would completely 100% support legislation to prevent the monopoly.

somehow its different with movies?