Canada unveils new cyber monitoring rules

[Acid Trip]

An article for our friends up North.

Canada unveils new cyber monitoring rules
Feb 14 03:32 PM US/Eastern

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.0f0f45ab01c8fa04e4b488d1b8562ee 9.181&show_article=1

Canada's government Tuesday introduced a bill to give law enforcement authorities sweeping powers to probe online communications, but the move sparked criticism about threats to privacy.

"New technologies provide new ways of committing crimes, making them more difficult to investigate," Justice Minister Rob Nicholson told a press conference in unveiling the measure.

"This legislation will enable authorities to keep pace with rapidly changing technology."

Opposition parties and civil liberties groups, however, said new police powers contained in the bill could result in unreasonable searches and seizures.

Privacy Commissioner Jennifer Stoddart, whose office is independent from the government, said in a letter to Public Safety Minister Vic Toews last October she had "deep concerns" about the proposed changes, which she said could have "serious repercussions for privacy rights."

"I recognize that rapid developments in communication technologies are creating new challenges for law enforcement and national security authorities and that the Internet cannot be a lawless zone," Stoddart said.

But "by expanding the legal tools of the state to conduct surveillance and access private information, and by reducing the depth of judicial scrutiny... (the bill would allow the) government to subject more individuals to surveillance and scrutiny."

Further more it goes "far beyond simply maintaining investigative capacity or modernizing search powers. Rather, (it) added significant new capabilities for investigators to track, and search and seize digital information about individuals."

The legislation would require telecommunications service providers to set up systems that allow police or Canada's spy service to intercept communications as part of their investigations.

As well, they would be required to provide subscriber information to authorities and other data that would allow police to track suspects using a cell phone or a computer.

Toews in parliament insisted the newest draft of the bill balances law enforcement needs and privacy rights, but Stoddart's office told AFP her concerns remain.

[Hal-9000]

*changes facebook status to NOT building a device with C4*

[Noilly Pratt]

They're introducing it as anti-child porn legislation and anyone who opposes it, the insinuation is that you are a pornography sympathizer or something.

Sounds suspiciously like the reasoning given to invade certain countries. If you're for us, you're for freedom, if you're against, then you're ONE OF THEM....:huh:

Our freedoms are eroding slowly and people are willing to trade their freedom for the illusion of security.

[Acid Trip]

They're introducing it as anti-child porn legislation and anyone who opposes it, the insinuation is that you are a pornography sympathizer or something.

Sounds suspiciously like the reasoning given to invade certain countries. If you're for us, you're for freedom, if you're against, then you're ONE OF THEM....:huh:

Our freedoms are eroding slowly and people are willing to trade their freedom for the illusion of security.

Welcome to the wonderful world of politics!

[Richard Cranium]

and once again it's those corrupt, evil Republicans, oh wait,, sorry... wrong thread,,

[RBP]

and once again it's those corrupt, evil Republicans, oh wait,, sorry... wrong thread,,

:lol:

[Godfather]

I'm having a really hard time defending the Conservatives on this one... this is some really twisted shit. "You're with us, or you're with the child pornographers" we're basically being told

Once again, a new bill that makes average citizens into criminals. The Tories are just now getting rid of the Long Gun Registry, which they and us know, makes criminals out of average, law abiding Canadians (almost all gun crimes involve illegal firearms) and is a huge waste of money. But replacing it with this is FAR worse....

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I'm having a really hard time defending the Conservatives on this one... this is some really twisted shit. "You're with us, or you're with the child pornographers" we're basically being told

Once again, a new bill that makes average citizens into criminals. The Tories are just now getting rid of the Long Gun Registry, which they and us know, makes criminals out of average, law abiding Canadians (almost all gun crimes involve illegal firearms) and is a huge waste of money. But replacing it with this is FAR worse....

Sounds like the ramblings of a guilty person there.... :-k

*phones the RCMP*

[Godfather]

8-[ I've still got the bracelet, they already know I'm here

[Acid Trip]

I'm having a really hard time defending the Conservatives on this one... this is some really twisted shit. "You're with us, or you're with the child pornographers" we're basically being told

Once again, a new bill that makes average citizens into criminals. The Tories are just now getting rid of the Long Gun Registry, which they and us know, makes criminals out of average, law abiding Canadians (almost all gun crimes involve illegal firearms) and is a huge waste of money. But replacing it with this is FAR worse....

Both parties play to the heart strings. In politics it is always black and white when in the real world there are shades of grey everywhere.

In the US if you disagree with the president you're a racist. If you show up to town halls to complain about the health care bill you're a Nazi. If you are against extending unemployment benefits you hate the poor.

[Godfather]

Both parties play to the heart strings. In politics it is always black and white when in the real world there are shades of grey everywhere.

In the US if you disagree with the president you're a racist. If you show up to town halls to complain about the health care bill you're a Nazi. If you are against extending unemployment benefits you hate the poor.

I'm worried that Canada will become more and more divided. One thing that always surprises me is just how much Politics is talked in the US. I turn on the TV in a hotel room and it's always there. Seems like the country is divided on every single major issue if I can critique honestly.

That is creeping up here too. My parents and theirs vote for the party at the time that sounds best, or with the candidate they like most, or against the party that has made mistakes. But I see my generation becoming more polarized. Although we did just have a sweeping majority election so that's not universal either.

[Hal-9000]

I'm worried that Canada will become more and more divided. One thing that always surprises me is just how much Politics is talked in the US. I turn on the TV in a hotel room and it's always there. Seems like the country is divided on every single major issue if I can critique honestly.

That is creeping up here too. My parents and theirs vote for the party at the time that sounds best, or with the candidate they like most, or against the party that has made mistakes. But I see my generation becoming more polarized. Although we did just have a sweeping majority election so that's not universal either.

:rolleyes: yep

[Acid Trip]

I'm worried that Canada will become more and more divided. One thing that always surprises me is just how much Politics is talked in the US. I turn on the TV in a hotel room and it's always there. Seems like the country is divided on every single major issue if I can critique honestly.

That is creeping up here too. My parents and theirs vote for the party at the time that sounds best, or with the candidate they like most, or against the party that has made mistakes. But I see my generation becoming more polarized. Although we did just have a sweeping majority election so that's not universal either.

Divide and conquer, one of the oldest principles in warfare. This is a war of ideals as opposed to armies.

[Godfather]

I think all 25+ MP's from Alberta were Conservatives :lol: But it's a money-making Province and if you want business to thrive you don't vote Liberal.


Divide and conquer, one of the oldest principles in warfare. This is a war of ideals as opposed to armies.

That's a really interesting take on it :-k

[Loser]

Steganography.

Start hiding shit in pictures and what not ;)

[JoeyB]

They're introducing it as anti-child porn legislation and anyone who opposes it, the insinuation is that you are a pornography sympathizer or something.

Sounds suspiciously like the reasoning given to invade certain countries. If you're for us, you're for freedom, if you're against, then you're ONE OF THEM....:huh:

Our freedoms are eroding slowly and people are willing to trade their freedom for the illusion of security.

They are Noilly...fight it hard, because this is the sort of stupid nonsense that has poisoned America over the last decade.

Meanwhile, are you aware that Canada is looking to increase it's overseas military presence? Whats up with that? You guys are gonna be the next America.


I'm having a really hard time defending the Conservatives on this one... this is some really twisted shit. "You're with us, or you're with the child pornographers" we're basically being told


It's insidious but effective. Down here anyone who questioned the Iraq war was derided as lacking patriotism, and it shut people up. This is an abuse of free speech, and one I've rallied against before...it is free speech used to quell free speech. Watch for it dude, you'll see more to come.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Public Safety Minister Vic Toews targeted over privacy concerns with new bill
By Laura Payton, CBC News


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Canadians worried about a potential loss of privacy due to a bill tabled this week in the House of Commons have decided to go the opposite route and tell Public Safety Minister Vic Toews everything about their lives, flooding his Twitter feed.

Toews is the sponsor of a lawful access bill, known as C-30, meant to update Canadian law to give police stronger powers in dealing with criminals who operate on the internet. The bill would require internet service providers to turn over customer information upon request by police, leading critics of the bill and its previous incarnations to label it the "warrantless wiretap" bill.

Rather than writing letters or emails about the possible privacy invasion, Twitter users have decided to flood Toews' account with tweets about the inane details of their lives, tagging the tweets with a hashtag, or label, #TellVicEverything.

"I don't like you," Scott Feschuk, a humour writer and former Liberal speechwriter, tweeted to Toews.

"I lost an email from my work account yesterday. Can I get your copy?" Kevin Harding, a student and blogger, wrote from his account.

"I used soy milk in my cereal today. Still on the fence about it," tweeted CBC Television's This Hour Has 22 Minutes.

By mid-afternoon, Tell Vic Everything was the top-trending topic in Canada. It trended briefly worldwide, making it one of the most tweeted about topics at the time. "Hey Vic" and "Bill C-30" also trended in Canada.

Government will consider amendments

Among the bill's measures is a requirement for telecommunications service providers to provide basic subscriber information to police and intelligence agencies when they ask for it and without a warrant. The information could include a person's name, address, phone number, email address, IP address and the name of their service provider.

Currently this information may be given by service providers on a voluntary basis, but they aren't compelled to hand it over.

Privacy commissioners and others have warned the bill goes too far. NDP digital affairs critic Charlie Angus has argued the government hasn't shown the need for these powers.

Toews has been downplaying fears since Tuesday when the legislation was tabled.

"The police will not be able to read emails or track web activity without a warrant," Toews said Thursday afternoon in question period.

The government has said it will consider amendments to the legislation, which has just started to make its way through the House of Commons.

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"I don't like you," Scott Feschuk, a humour writer and former Liberal speechwriter, tweeted to Toews.

"I lost an email from my work account yesterday. Can I get your copy?" Kevin Harding, a student and blogger, wrote from his account.

"I used soy milk in my cereal today. Still on the fence about it," tweeted CBC Television's This Hour Has 22 Minutes.



:rofl:

[samarchepas]

To every damn politicians on this planet: LEAVE MY INTERNET ALONE!!! :x

[JoeyB]

To every damn politicians on this planet: LEAVE MY INTERNET ALONE!!! :x

That had such a 'damn dirty apes' quality to it.

[samarchepas]

That had such a 'damn dirty apes' quality to it.

To be compared to a politician...I'd by offended if I was a "damn dirty ape" :rofl: