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Teh One Who Knocks
03-03-2012, 02:06 PM
By Felicia Sonmez - The Washington Post


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Wading further into an escalating contraception battle that has put Republicans on the defensive, President Obama on Friday called Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown University law student who this week was derided as a “slut” and a “prostitute” by conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh for her defense of rules mandating that employer-provided insurance plans cover the cost of birth control.

The call by Obama -- a rare one from the president to a private individual -- comes amid an intensifying political fight over religious-affiliated institutions and contraception, a battle in which Democrats accuse Republicans of waging a “war on women” and Republicans say that Obama is working to curtail “religious liberty.”

The president’s call is a signal that the White House, like Democrats more broadly, believes it has the upper hand on a hot-button issue that does not appear to be leaving the political spotlight anytime soon.

In an interview with MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell Friday afternoon, Fluke discussed the call from Obama, which took place shortly before she appeared on the program.

“He encouraged me and supported me and thanked me for speaking out about the concerns of American women,” Fluke told Mitchell of the call with Obama. “And what was really personal for me was that he said to tell my parents that they should be proud. And that meant a lot because Rush Limbaugh questioned whether or not my family would be proud of me. So, I just appreciated that very much.”

White House press secretary Jay Carney said, “The president called Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke because he wanted to offer his support, express his disappointment, that she was the subject of an inappropriate personal attack and thank her for exercising her rights as a citizen to speak out on public policy.”

Carney said they spoke “for several minutes. It was a good conversation. Like a lot of people said the personal attacks directed her way are inappropriate. The fact that political discourse has become debased in many ways is bad enough. It’s worse when directed at a private citizen simply expressing her views on a matter of public policy.”

Asked what Obama thought about Limbaugh’s comments, Carney said, “They were reprehensible. They were disappointing. It is reprehensible that those kinds of personal and crude attacks could be leveled at someone like this young law school student who was simply expressing her opinion on a matter of public policy and doing it with a great deal of poise.”

Democrats had originally tapped Fluke to testify at a House hearing earlier this month on the Obama administration’s decision regarding religious-affiliated employers and contraception coverage.

But Republicans had said at the time that Fluke’s name had been submitted too late to appear at the hearing; they also argued that the hearing was about religious freedom more broadly and that Fluke could not testify because she was not a member of the clergy.

Last week, Fluke delivered testimony before a House Democratic-convened panel on Capitol Hill on the cost to female students of birth control that is not covered by health plans provided by some religious-affiliated institutions.

Fluke said in her testimony that some students at Georgetown spend as much as $1,000 per year out-of-pocket on contraception since birth control is not covered by the university’s health care plan.

Then, on his radio show, Limbaugh took aim at Fluke, who he called a “feminazi” and a “slut.”

“If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it,” Limbaugh had said. “We want you post the videos online so we can all watch.”

The comments by Limbaugh led to a media firestorm. House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has called Limbaugh’s remarks “inappropriate,” and Georgetown University President John DeGioia issued a statement on Friday defending Fluke.

“She was respectful, sincere, and spoke with conviction. She provided a model of civil discourse,” DeGioia said of Fluke. “And yet, some of those who disagreed with her position – including Rush Limbaugh and commentators throughout the blogosphere and in various other media channels – responded with behavior that can only be described as misogynistic, vitriolic, and a misrepresentation of the position of our student.”

In her interview with MSNBC’s Mitchell Friday afternoon, Fluke cited DeGioia’s comments as “an example of what kind of model we should look to in our national discourse, because clearly the president of the university and I disagree about the issues, but we’re both able to handle this in a civil manner.”

“There’s been some highs and some lows,” Fluke said of her past several weeks in the media spotlight. “Yes. So, it’s been quite a journey. And I’m just happy that what seems to be happening in the process is that America is hearing the voices of women affected by lack of contraception coverage and who will benefit from this policy. And that’s what’s really most important to me; that’s why I’ve been working on this for years, honestly.”

Asked by Mitchell how her parents responded to the controversy and Limbaugh’s comments, Fluke said that they were “certainly hurt” but also “very proud of me.”

“They’re actually of a different political persuasion than I am, so I think that is emblematic of the fact that broadly Americans agree that women need access to basic health care that’s important to prevent medical disasters and to prevent pregnancy. ... I would certainly say it’s been a learning experience. I recommend hands-on experience for law students. Not all of this experience I would recommend,” she said.

The 2012 GOP presidential contenders did not immediately weigh in on Obama’s call.

Asked by a reporter about Limbaugh’s comments on Fluke, former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum said at a campaign event in Chillicothe, Ohio, that he’s “not for anyone calling someone a bad name.” But he did not elaborate on the controversy.

Teh One Who Knocks
03-03-2012, 02:07 PM
As if we needed any more proof that Rush Limbaugh was an asshat, he helps remind us by doing shit like this.

Way to go Rush, hope you enjoy damaging the republican party that you claim to support :tup:

Asshole

FBD
03-03-2012, 04:05 PM
As usual, democrats need to manufacture some sort of distraction to move the focus away from their million failures. As usual, Rush jokingly plays connect the dots, as usual, two and three word snippets are put in quotations and used as evidence he's an asshole. :rolleyes:

What he said was basically this lady is coming along and saying I need to have so much sex that it is a financial issue, therefore you all should pay so that I may have as much sex as I like - well, who gets paid to have sex? Prostitutes. So that kinda makes us all pimps for having to make sure this is all provided.

Sorry, this is a stupid fabricated setup, as usual...and this isnt any 23 year old college student that happens to be going broke from paying for her contraception, she's a democratic government op that specifically enrolled at Georgetown in order to challenge their "lack of providing this crucial... :lol: Its just so fkn transparent its not even funny.

Who's the assholes? As usual, the democrats playing the woman, race, class cards because "they're the only winners" in their hand. Which...they're not such winners anymore, its a bunch of goddam fluff.




http://www.jammiewf.com/2012/sandra-flukes-appearance-is-no-fluke/

For me the interesting part of the story is the ever-evolving “coed”. I put that in quotes because in the beginning she was described as a Georgetown law student. It was then revealed that prior to attending Georgetown she was an active women’s right advocate. In one of her first interviews she is quoted as talking about how she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend, and seeing that it didn’t cover contraceptive services, she decided to attend with the express purpose of battling this policy. During this time, she was described as a 23-year-old coed. Magically, at the same time Congress is debating the forced coverage of contraception, she appears and is even brought to Capitol Hill to testify. This morning, in an interview with Matt Lauer on the Today show, it was revealed that she is 30 years old, NOT the 23 that had been reported all along.

In other words, folks, you are being played. She has been an activist all along and the Dems were just waiting for the appropriate time to play her.

While she is described as a “third year law student” they always fail to mention that she is also the past president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice.


Does your campus’s LSRJ chapter face opposition in regard to facilitating a comprehensive conversation about reproductive justice? Well mine definitely does! While my campus has a mix of people with different backgrounds, and a rich liberal arts community, the Midwest doesn’t exactly scream bleeding liberal. Some LSRJ chapters at conservative campuses face opposition in the form of other, more conservative, student run organizations; some face it from their administrations, and others from their peers, or the community in general. Whatever the opposition is, it can be incredibly frustrating and disheartening.

The question is, how do we combat this conservative opposition and oppression, in order to facilitate a discussion and educate others about the RJ movement? I am obviously not alone in facing these problems, as Sandra Fluke of Georgetown lead a packed room in a discussion on this question at the first Issue Caucus that I attended at the Leadership Institute, LSRJ’s national conference at Berkeley.

While no solution was definitively reached, and I personally don’t begin to have the “right” answer, I was really charged by the discussion and feel many great ideas were presented. Some campus chapters decided to take an adversarial approach, feeling it important to use those “scary” words the opposition fears.

Further background research on Ms Fluke reveals that she got her start in government in New York in 2009.

Sandra Fluke’s professional background in domestic violence and human trafficking began with Sanctuary for Families in New York City. There, she launched the agency’s pilot Program Evaluation Initiative. While at Sanctuary, she co-founded the New York Statewide Coalition for Fair Access to Family Court, which after a twenty-year stalemate, successfully advocated for legislation granting access to civil orders of protection for unmarried victims of domestic violence, including LGBTQ victims and teens. Sandra was also a member of the Manhattan Borough President’s Taskforce on Domestic Violence and numerous other New York City and New York State coalitions that successfully advocated for policy improvements impacting victims of domestic violence.

As the 2010 recipient of the Women Lawyers Association of Los Angeles Fran Kandel Public Interest Grant, she researched, wrote, and produced an instructional film on how to apply for a domestic violence restraining order in pro per. She has also interned with the Coalition to Abolish Slavery & Trafficking; Polaris Project; Neighborhood Legal Services of Los Angeles County; Break the Cycle; the Domestic Violence Legal Empowerment and Appeals Project; NOW Legal Defense and Education Fund; Crime Victim and Sexual Assault Services; and the Human Services Coalition of Tompkins County.

Through Georgetown’s clinic programs, Sandra has proposed legislation based on fact-finding in Kenya regarding child trafficking for domestic work, and has represented victims of domestic violence in protection order cases. Sandra is the Development Editor of the Journal of Gender and the Law, and served as the President of Law Students for Reproductive Justice, and the Vice President of the Women’s Legal Alliance. In her first year, she also co-founded a campus committee addressing human trafficking. Cornell University awarded her a B. S. in Policy Analysis & Management, as well as Feminist, Gender, & Sexuality Studies in 2003.



My only question is, how does someone go from being a champion of domestic violence issues to an expert of women’s reproductive health issues?
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Teh One Who Knocks
03-03-2012, 04:12 PM
Never fear, FBD rides in on his white horse to defend the indefensible :thumbsup:


:roll:

Muddy
03-03-2012, 04:25 PM
I have some chick friends on facebook ready to kill Mr Limbaugh... :lol:



"Who the f*ck is Rush Limbaugh calling a slut??? Take another pill, you junkie! Unbelievable!!!!"

Teh One Who Knocks
03-03-2012, 04:52 PM
I have some chick friends on facebook ready to kill Mr Limbaugh... :lol:

I'm sure there are a ton of chicks that would love to beat his ass right now after that crap he spewed.

What's hilarious are Rush's defenders...they all rip on the ultra-left talking heads (like Bill Maher) yet everything that comes out of Rush's pie-hole is the god's honest truth :roll:

FBD
03-03-2012, 05:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2yAH-AhDmc

Apparently one cant make correlations? Its acceptable to extrapolate and reframe one concept, but unacceptable to extrapolate another. "access" = "publicly paid for" = "free" = "far more expensive"; "planted contrived bullcrap to point the finger somewhere, anywhere, but on one's own activities" deserves to be called out. I have listened to some rush but not a ton, and I have zero problem with him because I know how he sets these things up - logical extrapolations - and since they deal with absurd things, the extrapolations get absurd sometimes. Note he doesnt say "Sandra, you are a slut" - its a logical progression of concepts, but the headline always takes tiny two and three word snippets and frames the context to what they want to say, putting words in people's mouths in the process. Why? Because including all of it doesnt convey what they want it to, it conveys whatever the hell he said. Which is making correlations and not actually calling someone something by name. Sometimes subtle, sometimes not so much. The perps on the left dont care if their narrative isnt truthful, its "right and correct" therefore it needs to be pushed on the population by any means possible. Fascism-Socialism by a thousand cuts all this obamacare crap, people dont seem to get what an acceleration in government encroachment this is, and look at how it gets framed!

So now this is all about everyone's overreactions to two word quotations from rush more than anything else :roll: Keep that TV on, people.

perrhaps
03-03-2012, 06:30 PM
Rush Limbaugh made this woman an issue. If he'd just kept his fat mouth shut, she wouldn't have even enjoyed 15 seconds of fame.

The good news is some of his sponsors are bailing on him. He's a dinosaur who should be eased into extinction.

MrsM
03-03-2012, 06:31 PM
Rush is a total asshole - and anyone that tries to defend what he said as just is just as bad. I don't care if it's a short piece of his whole point and the media is focusing on the little part that makes it sound bad. What he said was inappropriate and just shows how backward thinking this clown really is.

The fact that the republican party has not tried to distance themselves from him after this really shows what they believe what he says and supports him.

MrsM
03-03-2012, 06:38 PM
As usual, democrats need to manufacture some sort of distraction to move the focus away from their million failures.


As usual, republicans do something stupid to allow the Democrats to distract from their failures

FBD
03-05-2012, 01:53 PM
get all fired up over what the tv gets all fired up over :roll: