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Teh One Who Knocks
03-12-2012, 01:31 PM
By Thane Burnett, QMI Agency


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Dust off that hood, John Radclive.

It's been 50 years since the last criminal hangings took place in Canada, and Radclive was the nation's first professional executioner, delivering about 150 final sentences. According to an exclusive QMI Agency poll, our country wishes the end of our rope hadn't been reached in 1962.

Our Leger Marketing public survey -- involving questions on just about every hot-button topic faced in Canada -- has found half the country is now in favour of the death penalty for dangerous offenders.

In fact, only 37% of people now think death for violent offenders is a bad idea.

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Just before cop-killers Ron Turpin and Arthur Lucas both swung from the Toronto gallows back in 1962, Lucas was reportedly told they'd likely be the last to be executed in Canada -- which they were. He reportedly replied: "Some consolation."


A majority of Canadians seem to now agree with him.

And so does America's toughest lawman.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio welcomed the Canadian poll results.

He recently lost a deputy to a murder, and over the past two weeks, his state of Arizona has put two killers to death. One of the murderers, Robert Charles Towery, had injected his victim with battery acid.

"Seems Canada is very progressive these days," the sheriff says by phone.

"And it seems people are fed up with crime."

Even as many states look at ending capital punishment, the Arizona sheriff urged the Canadian government to take another serious look at bringing it back.

The debate has only grown stronger. Conservative Senator Pierre-Hugues Boisvenu -- whose daughter was murdered -- recently suggested some serial killers might benefit from being given a rope to hang themselves. Though he added, he is against the death penalty.

And last year, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said there's a time when capital punishment is appropriate, but added he has no plans to bring it back.

Leger pollster Christian Bourque says he's not surprised by the results, though adds he doesn't expect it to add any momentum to calls for the likes of John Radclive to return to work.

"No one wants to open that can of worms," says the executive vice president of Leger Marketing.

His results are among a number over the past year that have found strong support for a return of executions in Canada.

"I think it is sad that 50 years after the last hanging in Canada there are still so many people who would like to have executions back," says Toronto lawyer James Lockyer, a founding director of the Association in Defence of the Wrongly Convicted. "What is particularly depressing is that for the first time in more than 50 years, we have a prime minister who supports the death penalty.

"Those of us who oppose the death penalty in any form still have a lot to do."

Dealing with the worst criminals is just one of many topics dividing Canadians we talked to for the survey.

Among the wide range of opinions charted in the large QMI Agency commissioned poll -- from support for the legal right to abortion (70% agree) to a favourable view on the Alberta oilsands (56% national support) -- are surprising numbers that indicate our love for the royal family has faded.

When asked about support for showcasing the monarchy in Canada, almost half of the country gave thumbs down while only 29% of respondents approved.

But before anyone storms the castle, pollster Bourque says the monarchy still has grassroots support in Canada.

And Carolyn Harris, a royal authority and teaching fellow at Queen's University in Kingston -- she also runs the popular royalhistorian.com blog -- says the lukewarm numbers may have to do with how the question was asked.

"By phrasing the question with 'showcasing', there are images of taxpayer money being spent ... on pomp and pageantry," she says.

"You might get a very different response if you asked 'Do you hold the Queen or royal family in high regard."

Just as capital punishment is not likely to make a return soon to the political front-burner, Harris says the place of the Queen in Canada's constitutional monarchy is not about to be challenged any time soon.

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WE LOVE OUR OILSANDS

Canadian may love the environment, but a major new poll conducted for QMI Agency has found they still support oil production from the Alberta oilsands.

The Leger Marketing survey found 56% of adults across the country see the project in a favourable light.

This despite the fact the petroleum deposits have become a favourite target of environmentalists, especially outside of Canada.

Leger pollster Christian Bourque says it seems the more the country is picked on from abroad, the more the nation pulls together to support their own.

While the Enbridge Northern Gateway Project brought in only a 29% favourable response in the poll, almost half of those asked didn't have an opinion or preferred not to answer.

And while almost half of Canadians disapprove of withdrawing from the Kyoto Protocol -- 44% of Albertans think it's a good idea while 31% of Ontario residents think so -- almost 30% of the country again does not have an answer.

But with 71% of the nation wanting the human impact on climate change recognized, Leger pollster Bourque predicts the debate over the environment, and tapping into natural resources, might replace Quebec as the leading hot-button national topic.

Joebob034
03-12-2012, 04:19 PM
:canada:

Hal-9000
03-12-2012, 06:35 PM
I used to be anti-death penalty


Then I got older and read about monsters that walk among us with no remorse that think it's ok for them to torture, mutilate, abuse and kill anyone they please.

A strong deterrent must be in place to stop that kind of thinking...

PorkChopSandwiches
03-12-2012, 06:50 PM
I used to be anti-death penalty


Then I got older and read about monsters that walk among us with no remorse that think it's ok for them to torture, mutilate, abuse and kill anyone they please.

A strong deterrent must be in place to stop that kind of thinking...

I dont think penalty stop anyone from doing anything, but it makes us feel better

Hal-9000
03-12-2012, 07:07 PM
I dont think penalty stop anyone from doing anything, but it makes us feel better

I disagree.I saw a show where convicts of varying offenses were interviewed and most of them said they knew how little time they'd get for their crimes if they got caught.

One guy even listed all of the things he didn't have growing up and said that prison gave him a better quality of life.They had some underage juvies too and that group...knows exactly what they can get away with.

I know what you're saying tho, not many bad guys check out their rights before going out and mutilating people :lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
03-12-2012, 07:13 PM
Yeah, the laws keep honest people honest. But if you a child rapist.....death penalty isnt changing your mind

Hal-9000
03-12-2012, 07:22 PM
Some of those fuckers are the most cowardly self-preservationists on the planet.They go to great lengths to hide their atrocities, even when being categorized as sociopaths .

I was doing some light reading over this past weekend about Charles Starkweather, Ted Bundy and Albert Fish :lol:.....these guys have no emotion about their deeds yet will try and ensure they hide them for fear of getting caught and/or killed.

Teh One Who Knocks
03-12-2012, 07:27 PM
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio welcomed the Canadian poll results.

He recently lost a deputy to a murder, and over the past two weeks, his state of Arizona has put two killers to death. One of the murderers, Robert Charles Towery, had injected his victim with battery acid.

It's because of people like that....those are exactly the people that have no business breathing the same air on this planet as everyone else :|

Hal-9000
03-12-2012, 08:14 PM
a good stat about Charles Starkweather...

He's the teen who grabbed his girlfriend, drove across country and killed 11 people randomly...Natural Born Killers and the 1973 movie Badlands were loosely based on the events.

He started killing in 1957, killed more people and was stopped in 1958 and he was executed in 1959....what do you find unique about that last sentence?

Joebob034
03-12-2012, 08:17 PM
a good stat about Charles Starkweather...

He's the teen who grabbed his girlfriend, drove across country and killed 11 people randomly...Natural Born Killers and the 1973 movie Badlands were loosely based on the events.

He started killing in 1957, killed more people and was stopped in 1958 and he was executed in 1959....what do you find unique about that last sentence?

that he was executed only a year after he was caught, not 15 years and 10 appeals later

Hal-9000
03-12-2012, 08:19 PM
another interesting bit about Starkweather....he was born bow legged and myopic.It was found out later he was bullied all throughout school, until he reached high school.There he started working out and becoming a fighter.Apparently a few months later he not only was violent with people who tried to bully him, he in turn would hurt random strangers if he didn't like the way they looked.....

Hal-9000
03-12-2012, 08:21 PM
that he was executed only a year after he was caught, not 15 years and 10 appeals later

Give that man a prize :thumbsup:

He had killed his last victim in '58, got caught and went to trial.In 1959 they ended his life.It was matter of months really...

deebakes
03-13-2012, 01:24 AM
looks like they could use a spell checker up there in good ol' :canada: :-k