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AntZ
03-19-2011, 09:59 AM
DOJ to white male bullying victims: Tough luck


Kerry Picket

Published on March 18, 2011




The viral video sensation showing a bullying incident at an Australian school has brought the issue of bullying back into the spotlight. Here in the United States, the Obama administration has made school bullying a federal issue. Last week, President Barack Obama addressed an anti-bullying conference with First Lady Michelle Obama at his side. The administration's anti-bullying campaign has been ongoing since the beginning of Mr. Obama's term. The Department of Justice announced in December 2010 its intention to hold liable school districts that fail to protect students that are bullied.

DOJ’s website states:

The Civil Rights Division and the entire Justice Department are committed to ending bullying and harassment in schools, and the video highlights the Department’s authority to enforce federal laws that protect students from discrimination and harassment at school because of their race, national origin, disability, religion, and sex, including harassment based on nonconformity with gender stereotypes.

The statement later says:

The enforcement of the Equal Protection Clause, Title IV of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 in school districts is a top priority of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. Additional information is available at the Civil Rights Division’s Educational Opportunities Section website at
www.justice.gov/crt/edo/.

Here is the catch. DOJ will only investigate bullying cases if the victim is considered protected under the 1964 Civil Rights legislation. In essence, only discrimination of the victim’s race, sex, national origin, disability, or religion will be considered by DOJ. The overweight straight white male who is verbally and/or physically harassed because of his size can consider himself invisible to the Justice Department.

Apparently, the Justice Department is going by George Orwell’s famous Animal Farm ending: “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.”

“We can only take action where we have legal authority,” wrote DOJ spokeswoman Xochitl Hinojosa in a December 2010 e-mail to The Washington Times Water Cooler. She continues:

“As stated in the website below, we are statutorily authorized to initiate suits under Title IV of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Equal Educational Opportunities Act of 1974, and under Title III of the American with Disabilities Act. More information on the Civil Rights Act, Equal Educational Opportunities Act, and the ADA can be found here:


http://www.justice.gov/crt/edo/faq.php#3 "

The Justice Department’s anti-bullying initiative is tantamount to bringing hate crime legislation to the public school system. Obviously, not only is the heterosexual white male student out of luck but inner city minority students lose out in this deal too.

If a schoolyard bully is a straight black male and his target is another straight black male where does that leave the victim in the eyes of Attorney General Eric Holder? What about two female students of the same sexual orientation and race? Is the victim in the latter situation considered to be less equal in the eyes of Obama’s Justice Department than a minority student who is picked on by a heterosexual white male student with no disabilities?

Unfortunately, the Justice Department is politicizing its priorities yet again. One must wonder why the administration believes it should be micro managing local school districts bullying problems. When the Justice Department is more interested in making ideological statements through seemingly sugar coated campaigns, no one should feel protected.

FBD
03-19-2011, 04:12 PM
And people try to assert that Obama isnt racist! :lol:

Deepsepia
03-19-2011, 10:53 PM
If a schoolyard bully is a straight black male and his target is another straight black male where does that leave the victim in the eyes of Attorney General Eric Holder? What about two female students of the same sexual orientation and race? Is the victim in the latter situation considered to be less equal in the eyes of Obama’s Justice Department than a minority student who is picked on by a heterosexual white male student with no disabilities?

Unfortunately, the Justice Department is politicizing its priorities yet again. One must wonder why the administration believes it should be micro managing local school districts bullying problems. When the Justice Department is more interested in making ideological statements through seemingly sugar coated campaigns, no one should feel protected.

You're missing the point. The Department of Justice has some limited powers to investigate certain crimes which fall under the umbrella of the civil rights act.

Those crimes are very limited. If you and your neighbor get in a fight, and he punches you in the nose, there's no "Federal case" there, you go to the cops and the States' Attorney. If a bunch of racists decide to beat the crap out of a black guy, and the local authorities are disinclined to even bring a case -- that's why the Civil Rights Act exists.

The reason that the Civil Rights Act was passed, is that in some states with a history of slavery and racism, the State authorities were unwilling to pursue crimes committed against racial minorities, so the Civil Rights Act established a very limited sort of "Federal parallel justice system" to substitute for that of States like Mississippi, where authorities were either unwilling or unable to investigate or prosecute folks for crimes against minorities.

But that's a very limited exception . . . assuming a properly functioning justice system, the recourse for victims should be, and is through their States' Attorney.

No one, least of all judicial conservatives, wants to see the Civil Rights Act used to create a general purpose parallel system of justice, that's not what it was intended for, not what the Act says, and not necessary.

The more proper argument here is that "bullying", unless there's some specific hateful component, is way beyond the logical purview of the Civil Rights Act; its not that the Justice department should be extending this to white folks, its that they probably shouldn't be doing these sorts of cases outside of very exceptional circumstances for anyone.

AntZ
03-19-2011, 11:28 PM
You're missing the point.

I'm not missing any point!

I didn't write the story! :hand:

Griffin
03-19-2011, 11:51 PM
why can't we all just get along?






....and where is that boy with my lynchburg lemonade?

Southern Belle
03-20-2011, 01:16 AM
It's sad that the feds even even have to be involved because the schools should be monitoring bullying and addressing the problems. Our public schools are in a sorry state.

Deepsepia
03-20-2011, 07:05 PM
It's sad that the feds even even have to be involved because the schools should be monitoring bullying and addressing the problems. Our public schools are in a sorry state.

Exactly. The travesty here is not that the Federal Government isn't intervening on behalf of some bullying victims, its that anyone thinks that anything about this is a Federal issue.

This is precisely the kind of thing that makes people resent the Federals.

Now if there were some systemic, overt and deliberate policy of a school board and a school system, and if the local States' Attorney refused to do anything about it, then you start to cross the line into something that might require a Federal investigation.

We see that with corrupt police forces, for example the New Orleans police force, where the State of Louisiana is simply unable or unwilling to root out corruption.

But "bullying" in the schools is a ridiculous subject for a Federal action.

FBD
03-21-2011, 03:17 PM
Perfect for the Obama administration to take action on, then! :lol:

pepo
03-21-2011, 04:17 PM
dont pick on pepo, whiteys!!!!!!!!!

Hal-9000
03-21-2011, 10:34 PM
it's sad that bullying has to be categorized as to who handles it, how it's handled etc...


just from the vid, that's straight up assault with witnesses....case closed.