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Teh One Who Knocks
03-20-2012, 03:51 PM
by Gina Serpe - E! Online


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The public firestorm that erupted in the wake of Kirk Cameron's comments condemning homosexuality earlier this month took plenty of people by surprise—but none more than the erstwhile Growing Pains star himself, who apparently can't quite understand what all the fuss is about.

In an interview with the Today show this morning, Cameron defended his stance and gave his best efforts at convincing the world that he wasn't propogating hate speech when he referred to gay marriage as "unnatural" and "ultimately detrimental to so many foundations of our civilization."

And even though he didn't amend his views on the matter, he did take a page from the D-list playbook and went so far as to blame that TV scapegoat editing for the presentation of his controversial rhetoric.

"Absolutely not, of course not. I love all people, I hate no one and, you know, when you take a subject and you reduce it to something like a four-second sound bite and a check mark on a ballot, I think that that's inappropriate and insensitive," he said, when asked directly by a particularly no-nonsense Ann Curry whether he meant to speak in such hate-speech terms.

"The truth is, these are issues that are very personal, they're things that need to be discussed in a context...and so, when things get edited down to that, it doesn't reflect, it certainly didn't reflect my whole heart on the matter."

Not that any small part, let alone the whole, of his heart has changed. However, he did feel like another part of his Godly message was left unsaid.

"Nobody should mistreat anybody—homosexuals should not be mistreated, heterosexuals should not be mistreated, bisexuals should not be mistreated. All of us who really think deeply about social issues like gay marriage and abortion and homosexuality have convictions on issues, and and we all have our convictions formed by different things, and mine are formed by my faith, they're informed by the word of God, and I found that to be an anchor for me, a compass and a guide for me.

"When people start bullying each other and calling each other names for those different convictions, then you get into problems."

Unnatural problems, perhaps?

Still, Cameron said that what most took him by surprise was the reaction to his rhetoric, as his opinion on the matter has been consistent over the years.

"I was surprised, frankly, that people were surprised by the things I said. I have been consistent for 15 years as a Christian. I'm a Bible-believing Christian. What I would have thought was more newsworthy is if I had said something that contradicted the word of God, if I had contradicted my faith."

Chalk that misread up to yet another gross judgment of error.

Joebob034
03-20-2012, 04:59 PM
except gay people

Muddy
03-20-2012, 05:30 PM
It IS un natural.. :lol: wtf?

PorkChopSandwiches
03-20-2012, 06:16 PM
There has been homosexuality since the beginning of time between humans and animals, only your background in religion leads you to believe sex is just meant for procreation.

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 06:19 PM
Kirk is looking pretty good....I'd fuck him

Muddy
03-20-2012, 06:41 PM
There has been homosexuality since the beginning of time between humans and animals, only your background in religion leads you to believe sex is just meant for procreation.

So you think men sucking cocks is natural?

PorkChopSandwiches
03-20-2012, 07:02 PM
what's unnatural about it?

DemonGeminiX
03-20-2012, 07:04 PM
There has been homosexuality since the beginning of time between humans and animals.

:nono:

That's not homosexuality, that's bestiality. And that's a big no-no in the majority of the lower 48.

PorkChopSandwiches
03-20-2012, 07:06 PM
:nono:

That's not homosexuality, that's bestiality. And that's a big no-no in the majority of the lower 48.

I dont mean with each other, even though that also has been going on since the beginning of time

DemonGeminiX
03-20-2012, 07:09 PM
:nono:

Fluffy's not fooled.

Muddy
03-20-2012, 07:12 PM
I dont mean with each other, even though that also has been going on since the beginning of time

Do you promote homosexuality as being a healthy lifestyle choice to your kids?

PorkChopSandwiches
03-20-2012, 07:28 PM
My kids know and understand what gay is, we dont preach hate to them.

MrsM
03-20-2012, 07:31 PM
What makes it unnatural? Wouldn't unnatural mean that it does not exist in nature - however there are many cases of homosexual behaviour in nature :-k

MrsM
03-20-2012, 07:33 PM
Do you promote homosexuality as being a healthy lifestyle choice to your kids?

My kids are too young to talk about it - but yes when we have "the talk" I will answer any questions they have and I will support them in their choices.

Muddy
03-20-2012, 07:46 PM
My kids know and understand what gay is, we dont preach hate to them.

We don't either, but we also don't leave this on the table as it being normal either.

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 07:47 PM
Gay sex is very natural to homersexual people....

Muddy
03-20-2012, 07:52 PM
Gay sex is very natural to homersexual people....

I am the way nature intended. It has nothing to do with religion for me.

PorkChopSandwiches
03-20-2012, 08:17 PM
I am the way nature intended. It has nothing to do with religion for me.

:meatspin:

Muddy
03-20-2012, 08:20 PM
:lol: I have that horrible song banned from Pandora.. That damn link has ruined it for all time...

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 08:22 PM
I am the way nature intended. It has nothing to do with religion for me.

has nothing to do with religion for gay people too :lol:


they would say - my likes are the way nature intended, for me

Muddy
03-20-2012, 08:24 PM
has nothing to do with religion for gay people too :lol:



According to Porky it does.. Religion has indoctrinated me to think a man sucking a cock is perverted.

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 08:25 PM
I never drink Porky's Kool - Aid :hand:

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 08:29 PM
Mudster...I know a lot of ghey people, both men and women.Some are my best friends and we've had the conversation because I have no shame and ask about it :lol:

What I get from them is that most gay folk know from birth what they are attracted to.Society then tries to tell them they're wrong and they learn shame and guilt.

Later, most of them say fuck it - This is the natural me and nothing will change it.


So I kinda learned that just as we see heterosexuality as normal, being gay is normal for them too....


However, procreation....tab A into slot B is a whole (hole?) different matter :lol:

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 08:31 PM
Kirk was cuter with curly hair....wonder if he'd wear a wig while I piledrived his ass

Joebob034
03-20-2012, 08:39 PM
I'm the same way. I have no problem with gay people. In fact one of my good friends came out of the closet my sophomore year in college and it didn't change anything between us at all. But if you look at it strictly scientifically it is unnatural. Everything living thing on Earth has one mission: Pass its genes on to its offspring so that they can continue to proliferate. Therefore anything thing that practices homosexuality technically speaking is unnatural because you can't pass on your genes that way. Does that mean they're going to hell or that homosexuality will overcome and destroy the planet? Of course not, only crazy radicals thing that way.

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 08:45 PM
I think (?) that's what Muddy is trying to say when teaching children.The behavior is harmless, but no babies will come of it .....(unnatural)

Muddy
03-20-2012, 08:51 PM
I could care less if people are gay.. Two dudes making out on Will and Grace at 8:00 at night I don't like my kids seeing. It's not natural and it shouldn't be presented as a normal way of life on prime time television... If they turn gay or go that path on their own. Fine so be it.. I'd support them... But I refuse to sit around, and promote it..

MrsM
03-20-2012, 08:54 PM
I think (?) that's what Muddy is trying to say when teaching children.The behavior is harmless, but no babies will come of it .....(unnatural)

There are other natural factors that may prevent someone from mating. So why would homosexuality be anymore unnatural? You would think that the natural selection would therefore "weed" out homosexuality over time.

But it hasn't

MrsM
03-20-2012, 08:58 PM
I could care less if people are gay.. Two dudes making out on Will and Grace at 8:00 at night I don't like my kids seeing. It's not natural and it shouldn't be presented as a normal way of life on prime time television... If they turn gay or go that path on their own. Fine so be it.. I'd support them... But I refuse to sit around, and promote it..

Do you feel that if your children see 2 men kissing that this will turn you kids gay? or that it would open questions that you don't want to discuss?

I don't understand why letting others do what they want or feel right is promoting homosexuality

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 09:22 PM
There are other natural factors that may prevent someone from mating. So why would homosexuality be anymore unnatural? You would think that the natural selection would therefore "weed" out homosexuality over time.

But it hasn't

You're asking the wrong person :lol:


We live in a world where both lifestyles should be accepted and not questioned, both on TV and in life.I disagree with what Muddy is saying....to me, that's promoting prejudice.But they are his children, therefore his decision on how to handle it.

Muddy
03-20-2012, 10:04 PM
Do you feel that if your children see 2 men kissing that this will turn you kids gay? or that it would open questions that you don't want to discuss?

I don't understand why letting others do what they want or feel right is promoting homosexuality


Being brutally honest like kids are they'd say.... Ewwwww sick!!! it's not normal and it shouldn't be presented as an alternate lifestyle to children.. Sorry.

Method512
03-20-2012, 10:06 PM
Kirk is looking pretty good....I'd fuck him

Are you gay? First bieber then this! :huh:


Do you promote homosexuality as being a healthy lifestyle choice to your kids?

Except it's not a lifestyle.


But truth be said, (not prejudice) but being homosexual isn't normal. Technically they are freaks (a thing or occurrence that is markedly unusual or irregular).

Like being paraplegic isn't normal, borning with one leg isn't normal, etc. Being gay isn't normal in the way that they are freaks (didn't born with all the correct genes or somrthing like that).

Muddy
03-20-2012, 10:12 PM
Natural..

http://images.donjuaninc.com/happy-couple-1.jpg

Unnatural

http://clatl.com/imager/theater-some-men/b/original/1273138/185c/seedo2-1_52.jpg

Method512
03-20-2012, 10:13 PM
Never said it was natural, just said it's not a lifestyle.

Muddy
03-20-2012, 10:15 PM
Never said it was natural, just said it's not a lifestyle.

life·style also life-style or life style (lfstl)
n.
A way of life or style of living that reflects the attitudes and values of a person or group:

RBP
03-20-2012, 10:16 PM
I probably should stay out of this :lol:

Method512
03-20-2012, 10:17 PM
But you're implying (or so it seems) that they are choosing to be gay. I think that we are born gay.

Muddy
03-20-2012, 10:18 PM
But you're implying (or so it seems) that they are choosing to be gay. I think that we are born gay.

Whats this "we" shit? :lol:

Method512
03-20-2012, 10:19 PM
haha, I'm straight!!! We as in the human race, not me (nor you)!! :mrgreen:

Muddy
03-20-2012, 10:20 PM
I think some people are born gay and I think some have homosexual tendencies and can be pushed..

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 10:28 PM
I'm all hetero baby...

have been accused or asked of being gay...mainly because I don't suck up to women coworkers or women friends :rofl:

he must be gay if he's ignoring my cleavage, short skirt, fluttering eyelashes...

Method512
03-20-2012, 10:28 PM
I disagree, but there's not anything I can provide to support what I say, just a clash of opinions. :)


he must be gay if he's ignoring my cleavage, short skirt, fluttering eyelashes...

Ignoring cleavege? Either they're really ugly...or I have bad news for you! xD

Muddy
03-20-2012, 10:29 PM
I disagree, but there's not anything I can provide to support what I say, just a clash of opinions. :)

Lindsay Lohan? Anne Heche? All part time selectively gay..

RBP
03-20-2012, 10:29 PM
I'm all hetero baby...

have been accused or asked of being gay...mainly because I don't suck up to women coworkers or women friends :rofl:

he must be gay if he's ignoring my cleavage, short skirt, fluttering eyelashes...

me thinks thou doth protesteth too much.

RBP
03-20-2012, 10:30 PM
Lindsay Lohan? Anne Heche? All part time selectively gay..

That's called bi :|

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 10:31 PM
me thinks thou doth protesteth too much.

nice lisp you sperm-belcher :lol:



oops, bad hal, bad

RBP
03-20-2012, 10:31 PM
I thought I was going to stay out of this :lol:

Method512
03-20-2012, 10:31 PM
Lindsay Lohan? Anne Heche? All part time selectively gay..

I wouldn't call them gay, more like attention whores (that would do anything for fame), but I get your point!

Muddy
03-20-2012, 10:31 PM
That's called bi :|

Call it what you wish.. :)

RBP
03-20-2012, 10:31 PM
nice lisp you sperm-belcher :lol:

oops, bad hal, bad

It's Shakespeare you dolt! :x

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 10:32 PM
Either yer eatin pussy or you got BALLS ON THE CHIN!


there is no half way :hand:

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 10:33 PM
It's Shakespeare you dolt! :x

no shit? :-s



(I read Macbeth to our English 30 class..I was Macbeth)

Teh One Who Knocks
03-20-2012, 10:35 PM
there is no half way :hand:

http://i.imgur.com/FBlRw.jpg

:-k

Muddy
03-20-2012, 10:35 PM
http://i.imgur.com/FBlRw.jpg

:-k


I have a "dirty dicks crabhouse" shirt... :lol:

RBP
03-20-2012, 10:36 PM
no shit? :-s

(I read Macbeth to our English 30 class..I was Macbeth)

Hamlet. The actual quote is "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 10:37 PM
I have a tshirt that says - Hugs 25 cents :)


and in very small print below -

but you can suck my dick for free :lol:

RBP
03-20-2012, 10:38 PM
Ok, I'll admit it. :facepalm:

I mostly agree with Muddy on this.

There I said it.

:villagers:

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 10:38 PM
Hamlet. The actual quote is "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Hamlet, Macbeth we read them all... and yes I still read Macbeth to our English class :lol:

RBP
03-20-2012, 10:40 PM
Hamlet, Macbeth we read them all... and yes I still read Macbeth to our English class :lol:

:-s

the quote is from Hamlet :x

Muddy
03-20-2012, 10:40 PM
Ok, I'll admit it. :facepalm:

I mostly agree with Muddy on this.

There I said it.

:villagers:

:hug:

RBP
03-20-2012, 10:41 PM
:hug:

don't hug me you faggot. :hand:

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 10:41 PM
Ok, I'll admit it. :facepalm:

I mostly agree with Muddy on this.

There I said it.



:villagers:

Group agreement or opinion does not denote who's right or wrong :lol:



siding with Muddy = -1

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 10:41 PM
don't hug me you faggot. :hand:

:shock:


*tweeted to Kirk* :x

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 10:43 PM
:-s

the quote is from Hamlet :x

Your original point is lost upon a sea of sperm and KY jelly.Some people think I'm gay and it makes me laugh ...tee-hee, tee-hee



so shove that up yer Hamlet :x

DemonGeminiX
03-20-2012, 11:02 PM
For posterity's sake:


http://i.plikomat.pl/media/i/4f8c4ca5f50a05f6c43f6a6c5ae399b3.jpg

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 11:07 PM
them dudes look pretty masculine to me :-s

DemonGeminiX
03-20-2012, 11:12 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Kjzj0.jpg

Hal-9000
03-20-2012, 11:14 PM
it's the first time I noticed they have magnets in that pic :lol:

Method512
03-20-2012, 11:33 PM
Are you saying mankinis are gay? Time to change my what I wear on the beach...*sigh*