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Teh One Who Knocks
07-10-2012, 04:51 PM
By Chris Moody, Yahoo! News | The Ticket


A Wall Street Journal analysis of political spending unveiled Tuesday found that organized labor groups dropped a combined $4.4 billion on political activities between 2006 and 2011, about four times more than previously estimated.

The Journal cast a wide net to determine what counted as "political spending," including activities that range from traditional candidate donations to the cost of hot dogs for union demonstrators at political rallies.

To find the additional costs, the newspaper added spending reports filed with the Labor Department to Federal Election Commission spending data. From the report, which is partially behind a paywall at WSJ.com, but is available in full at FoxNews.com:


The usual measure of unions' clout encompasses chiefly what they spend supporting federal candidates through their political-action committees, which are funded with voluntary contributions, and lobbying Washington, which is a cost borne by the unions' own coffers.

These kinds of spending, which unions report to the Federal Election Commission and to Congress, totaled $1.1 billion from 2005 through 2011, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.

The unions' reports to the Labor Department capture an additional $3.3 billion that unions spent over the same period on political activity.

The costs reported to the Labor Department range from polling fees, to money spent persuading union members to vote a certain way, to bratwursts to feed Wisconsin workers protesting at the state capitol last year. Much of this kind of spending comes not from members' contributions to a PAC but directly from unions' dues-funded coffers. There is no requirement that unions report all of this kind of spending to the Federal Election Commission, or FEC.
Union spending goes overwhelmingly to Democratic candidates and liberal causes. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks political spending, 92 percent of the $58.5 million in direct candidate donations from 1990 to 2012 went toward Democratic candidates.

Hal-9000
07-10-2012, 09:22 PM
4.4 billion....and yet people still suffer from cancer, MS etc



all in the name of promoting politics....that's fucking shameful

Acid Trip
07-10-2012, 09:32 PM
4.4 billion....and yet people still suffer from cancer, MS etc



all in the name of promoting politics....that's fucking shameful

My uncle had a great idea on how to solve the campaign financing problem. Give all parties that make it to the Presidential election $25 million each. How they spend that $25 million is completely up to them but once it's gone, it's gone.

No individual contributions, no PACs, no unions throwing their weight around.

Hal-9000
07-10-2012, 09:35 PM
My uncle had a great idea on how to solve the campaign financing problem. Give all parties that make it to the Presidential election $25 million each. How they spend that $25 million is completely up to them but once it's gone, it's gone.

No individual contributions, no PACs, no unions throwing their weight around.

Well that the whole thing isn't it really? It's not the best candidate that wins, it's the guy with the best promotional team and marketing

Southern Belle
07-10-2012, 09:56 PM
It makes me want to puke.

Hal-9000
07-10-2012, 09:58 PM
It makes me want to puke.

So much money in this world and we use it for wasteful, non essential shit...

Muddy
07-10-2012, 10:20 PM
Think about how much money we lose from offshore tax shelters..

Hal-9000
07-10-2012, 10:24 PM
I think of the monumental waste from EVERYTHING that we do :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
07-10-2012, 10:26 PM
Think about how much money we lose from offshore tax shelters..

Think about how much money we lose by letting half the people in this country get away without paying any Federal tax yet they use the system the most

Hal-9000
07-10-2012, 10:28 PM
studies to find out if studies are viable things...

Hal-9000
07-10-2012, 10:30 PM
welfare people that go to the bar and play bingo

politicians who draw wages and don't show up for work

retirement benefits for the same politicians that number in the millions

marketing done on things like consumer behavior ( red and yellow packaging makes people buy more foodstuffs )

Teh One Who Knocks
07-10-2012, 10:31 PM
welfare people that go to the bar and play bingo

politicians who draw wages and don't show up for work

retirement benefits for the same politicians that number in the millions

marketing done on things like consumer behavior ( red and yellow packaging makes people buy more foodstuffs )

In Colorado, people on welfare can use their benefit cards at places like 7-11 and they can buy Slurpees and nachos with them :|

Hal-9000
07-10-2012, 10:39 PM
I'm not hitting on the biggies...


the other night I was thinking of all of the non essential BS we do as humans and the money spent....it was staggering...

Teh One Who Knocks
07-10-2012, 10:40 PM
Look at the salaries of movie stars and pro athletes...the money spent in the entertainment business is staggering

Hal-9000
07-10-2012, 10:40 PM
don't get me wrong...a guy working hard and having a nice car, home and tech stuff is not in that category....


it's the stuff where the price tags are millions and billions and no one really sees a return for it

FBD
07-11-2012, 11:15 AM
b-b-b-but citizens united was unfair! :roll: I've never heard a defense for "why can unions spend any amount of their members' dues that they want, regardless of how union members feel about it - but allowing a bunch of people to get together and actually intend for their money to go in that direction is somehow not right?"

I agree "corporations are not people" but "groups of people are still people" - and if its all about the money, the who can do something about it?

yyyyeah. the politicians on the receiving end... :roll: