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Teh One Who Knocks
07-18-2012, 03:01 PM
By GENEVIEVE SHAW BROWN - ABC News


When Brian Kelly's intern called to alert him to chatter on FlyerTalk, a popular frequent-flier website about an extraordinary airfare deal to Asia, Kelly jumped on it and booked a first-class, round-trip ticket from New York to Hong Kong. Total cost? Four frequent flier miles and $43.

Kelly, a travel expert who runs a website called The Points Guy, is no stranger to "error fares," as they're called in the industry. Typically, an error fare will leave off a zero on the price, or something similar. But Kelly said errors on rewards tickets are far more unusual.

"I've never seen anything like it," he said. "I priced out several different routes and it [the rate] was available, not only to Hong Kong but to Beijing and Shanghai."

In recent years, error fares have frequently not been honored by the airlines. But new Department of Transportation (DOT) rules state: "A purchase occurs when the full amount agreed upon has been paid by the consumer. Therefore, if a consumer purchases a fare and that consumer receives confirmation (such as a confirmation email and/or the purchase appears on their credit card statement or online account summary) of their purchase, then the seller of air transportation cannot increase the price of that air transportation to that consumer, even when the fare is a 'mistake.'"

Kelly said he received a confirmation email within 15 minutes of purchasing his ticket.

Still, United said it is not going to honor the tickets. In a statement to ABC News, the airline said, "Over the weekend, we discovered a programming error that allowed customers using united.com to obtain Mileage Plus travel awards to and from Hong Kong for as little as four miles roundtrip per person, substantially below published levels, which we disclose to customers.

"We have since corrected the error and will be in contact with customers who have tickets issued at the incorrect award amounts. Customers will be given the choice to redeem at the correct mileage amount or re-deposit their award with all fees waived."

A DOT representative said they're looking into a number of complaints received about United's rescinding the frequent-flier tickets.

"Our rule on post-purchase price increases applies to frequent flier tickets, particularly when they also entail cash payments," the spokesperson said.

Kelly said he still hasn't heard from United regarding his ticket and he still holds his confirmation. "Reasonable people realize this was a mistake," he said. "Even so, it will be interesting to see how the new DOT rules play out."

PorkChopSandwiches
07-18-2012, 03:08 PM
:hand: This is their job/business they should honor the rate

Arkady Renko
07-18-2012, 03:19 PM
it's a tricky case because the consumer knew full well that the stated price was a mistake.

Teh One Who Knocks
07-18-2012, 03:29 PM
it's a tricky case because the consumer knew full well that the stated price was a mistake.

Exactly, a first class round trip flight from NYC to Hong Kong probably goes for $5000 or more

PorkChopSandwiches
07-18-2012, 03:31 PM
I dont think United should honor it, but the deal site should.

Teh One Who Knocks
07-18-2012, 03:35 PM
http://i.imgur.com/CiWJW.png

KevinD
07-18-2012, 09:29 PM
United sucks ass anyway. I f-ing HATE to fly United/Continental, short or long haul.

Hal-9000
07-18-2012, 09:39 PM
:hand:

I argued at Canadian Tire over a clock that was marked incorrectly, I won.


United should suck it up and honor the man's ticket at 43 bucks....it's not his job to police their pricing structure.

deebakes
07-19-2012, 12:11 AM
the flight is empty anyways, so $43 is more than they had before hand :-k

Muddy
07-19-2012, 01:51 AM
Exactly, a first class round trip flight from NYC to Hong Kong probably goes for $5000 or more

Really?

Arkady Renko
07-19-2012, 08:47 AM
Really?

seems plausible, seeing how much first class flights within europe or even domestic flights in Germany cost. I just had a look at the Lufthansa fare table: Frankfurt to Hong Kong first class round trip - their regular fare is between 11 and 12 K depending on weekdays and that's a much shorter flight.

Teh One Who Knocks
07-19-2012, 10:46 AM
Really?

:-k


http://i.imgur.com/CiWJW.png

KevinD
07-19-2012, 02:19 PM
the flight is empty anyways, so $43 is more than they had before hand :-k
While I've never flown out of NYC.. I can assure you that international flights to and from the US are NEVER empty. The airlines limit the flights and schedule so that each one is at capacity.