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Teh One Who Knocks
08-24-2012, 12:45 PM
By Laura Smith-Spark, CNN


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Oslo, Norway (CNN) -- Anders Behring Breivik, the man who killed 77 people in a bomb attack and gun rampage just over a year ago, was judged to be sane Friday by a Norwegian court, as he was sentenced to 21 years in prison.

Breivik was charged with voluntary homicide and committing acts of terror in the attacks in Oslo and on Utoya Island on July 22, 2011.

The issue of Breivik's sanity, on which mental health experts have given conflicting opinions, was central to the court's ruling.

Breivik, who boasts of being an ultranationalist who killed his victims to fight multiculturalism in Norway, wanted to be ruled sane so that his actions wouldn't be dismissed as those of a lunatic.

He says he acted out of "necessity" to prevent the "Islamization" of his country.

But prosecutors had asked that Breivik, 33, be acquitted on the grounds of insanity, in which case he would have been held in a secure mental health unit.

The unanimous verdict was delivered at Oslo district court by a panel of five judges.

Breivik, dressed in a dark suit and tie, had a slight smile on his face as the decision was given.

He was sentenced to the maximum possible term of 21 years and was ordered to serve a minimum of 10 years in prison. The time he has already spent in prison counts toward the term.

The sentence could be extended, potentially indefinitely, in the future if he is considered still to pose a threat to society. Norway does not have the death penalty.

Bjorn Ihler, a survivor of the Utoya Island attack, told CNN he was glad the trial had concluded and that justice had been done.

"It's been an amazingly difficult process. It's been a constant, constant reminder of why we have to fight extremism in every way possible," he said of the trial.

"We have to make sure nothing like this ever happens again."

The court's judgment that Breivik is sane means that the far-right views he espouses can be confronted in Norway without being dismissed as those of a madman, Ihler said.

"There are extremist people around, they are not insane, and we have to be able to take a proper debate with them," he said.

Asked whether the verdict meant closure for him, Ihler said: "This case is going to live strongly with me for the rest of my life probably."

Reading out the court's ruling, Judge Wenche Elizabeth Arntzen spoke of Breivik's "manifesto," a document published online in which he set out his ultranationalist political views.

Breivik claimed to belong to a far-right group called the Knights Templar but the court found no evidence of its existence, the judge said.

He described his actions as a pre-emptive attack in defense of ethnic Norwegian people and culture, the court heard.

Breivik trained for his attack by working out in the gym, running with a backpack filled with rocks and practicing at a shooting club, the court heard.

He was under the influence of ephedrine, a stimulant, at the time of the attacks, and the possibility that this contributed to his behavior cannot be ruled out, Judge Arne Lyng said. He used meditation techniques to cut off his emotions, Lyng said.

In the course of the 10-week trial, which wrapped up in June, the court heard chilling evidence from some of those who survived Breivik's shooting spree on Utoya Island, in which 69 people died -- most of them teenagers attending a Labour Party summer youth camp.

In his own testimony, given without emotion, Breivik recounted firing more bullets into teenagers who were injured and couldn't escape, killing those who tried to "play dead" and driving others into the sea to drown.

His fertilizer bomb attack against government buildings in Oslo also killed eight people and injured many more.

It was only luck that more people were not killed and hurt in the blast, the court heard.

Breivik blamed the Labour Party in particular for promoting multiculturalism in Norway.

He has been held in Ila Prison since his detention after the killings.

Defense lawyer Geir Lippestad has previously said it is important to Breivik that people see him as sane so they don't dismiss his views.

During his trial, Breivik promised that he would not appeal if the court found him criminally responsible for his actions.

The court had to consider conflicting opinions from medical experts in reaching its verdict.

An initial team of psychiatrists found Breivik to be paranoid and schizophrenic, following 36 hours of interviews.

However, a second pair of experts found he was not psychotic at the time of the attacks, does not suffer from a psychiatric condition and is not mentally challenged.

Their report said there is a "high risk for repeated violent actions."

Mark Stephens, a partner at law firm Finers Stephens Innocent, told CNN Friday: "The general public will think only a madman can commit these offenses, but in law madness is defined very narrowly. Basically it requires a doctor to come to court and say this person has a definable medical illness -- in this case the prosecution said he was a paranoid schizophrenic, and that can be treated with drugs and behavioral therapy.

"If, however, he had a personality disorder or was just ... motivated, as in this case, by a misguided political belief that this was the only way to stop the Islamization, as he would have it, of his nation, then in those circumstances he has be found guilty because he understood what he was doing was wrong."

Breivik's rampage, the worst atrocity on Norwegian soil since World War II, prompted much soul-searching.

Norwegians reasserted their commitment to multiculturalism and tolerance at a series of mass public tributes held in the immediate aftermath of the massacre.

And earlier this month, Norway's chief of police stepped down after an independent commission detailed a catalog of police and intelligence failures.

It concluded that those errors cost police 30 minutes in getting to Utoya, and that dozens of lives might have been saved.

Speaking last month on the anniversary of the killings, Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg urged Norwegians to "honor the dead by celebrating life," and said Breivik had failed in his attempt to change Norway's values.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-24-2012, 12:46 PM
21 years? Really? That's the maximum sentence for killing 77 people? :-s

And people say the US justice system is messed up :facepalm:

perrhaps
08-24-2012, 02:05 PM
21 years? Really? That's the maximum sentence for killing 77 people? :-s

And people say the US justice system is messed up :facepalm:

C'mon Lance. That's almost 100 days per victim. What's your problem with that?

Acid Trip
08-24-2012, 02:44 PM
21 years? Really? That's the maximum sentence for killing 77 people? :-s

And people say the US justice system is messed up :facepalm:

Yup, no death penalty and only 21 years for slaughtering 77 people.

Too bad JoeyB isn't here to tell us how the US sucks and Nordic countries are the best. :roll:

Godfather
08-24-2012, 02:48 PM
Don't fret, they can and will extended preventive detention and keep him in prison to rot away the rest of his pitiful little existence.

Acid Trip
08-24-2012, 02:53 PM
Don't fret, they can and will extended preventive detention and keep him in prison to rot away the rest of his pitiful little existence.

"Preventive Detention"? I think Mao and Stalin used similar words.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-24-2012, 02:55 PM
"Preventive Detention"? I think Mao and Stalin used similar words.

It's okay if other countries do it, people only get riled up if the United States does it (see: Gitmo)

Teh One Who Knocks
08-24-2012, 03:06 PM
By LEE FERRAN - ABC News


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The man who killed 77 people -- many of them teenagers -- in a bombing and shooting rampage in Norway last July appeared unable to conceal his happiness after he was declared sane and sentenced to 21 years in prison today.

Anders Breivik, a rightwing extremist who admitted to carrying out the massacre in an effort to battle "multiculturalism" in Europe, had previously said that being declared insane -- as prosecutors requested -- would have been the "ultimate humiliation." The 21-year sentence is the maximum under Norwegian law but can be extended later if Breivik is still deemed to be a threat to society.

Courtroom cameras showed that as Breivik stood and heard the ruling against him, his lips curled into a tight smile.

Last July Breivik detonated a bomb in the country's capital, killing eight people, before taking multiple weapons, including an assault rifle, to a nearby youth summer camp where he gunned down 69 more.

"It wasn't like the movies where you see blood... There was no blood. They just fell, lifeless," one survivor told ABC News.

Breivik was arrested and confessed to the mass murder, but he pleaded not guilty when his trial started in April. He said the massacre was an act of self-defense and the opening salvo in a 60-year crusade against multiculturalism.

Before the shooting, Breivik posted a 1,500-page manifesto online in which he said he was just one operative in the beginning of a violent Christian conservative revolution in Europe led by a group called the new Knights Templar. The manifesto included an extremely detailed account of Breivik's painstaking preparations for the attack. In it, he says that being arrested is all part of the plan.

"Your arrest will mark the initiation of the propaganda phase," Breivik writes. "Your trial offers you a stage to the world."

Breivik also mentions a plan to escape prison and execute a "bonus operation."

Godfather
08-24-2012, 03:06 PM
"Preventive Detention"? I think Mao and Stalin used similar words.

The dude said "I'd do it again." In Norway that's basically enrolling yourself in their version of life in prison

And why is this thread rapidly becoming about America vs. the World? :lol: That never even occurred to me...

Hal-9000
08-24-2012, 04:39 PM
Doesn't matter the country....this guy is a spree killer and should be serving consecutive life sentences, no chance of parole.

Acid Trip
08-24-2012, 05:11 PM
Doesn't matter the country....this guy is a spree killer and should be serving consecutive life sentences, no chance of parole.

So why not kill him? The longer you keep him in prison the more money you spend to keep him there.

Hal-9000
08-24-2012, 05:31 PM
So why not kill him? The longer you keep him in prison the more money you spend to keep him there.

I'm all about capitol punishment...determine his guilt and take him out the next day...

but I'm sure the country he was tried in is a little more liberal with their views on criminals...

Leefro
08-24-2012, 05:38 PM
21 years? Really? That's the maximum sentence for killing 77 people? :-s

And people say the US justice system is messed up :facepalm:

Called democracy as the Norwegian people don't want the death penalty

Teh One Who Knocks
08-24-2012, 05:42 PM
Called democracy as the Norwegian people don't want the death penalty

Where did I mention a death penalty? :-s

He didn't get 21 years per person he killed, he got 21 years total. Any sane person would be outraged at that sentence. I can't even imagine what the victims family members are feeling at what basically amounts to a slap on the wrist for mass murder.

Hal-9000
08-24-2012, 05:50 PM
and if he's allowed to apply for parole, the outrage will be worse.


People who kill multiple victims deserve life, throw away the key and no chance for parole. In my opinion, even a life sentence is too lenient for monsters like him.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-24-2012, 05:52 PM
and if he's allowed to apply for parole, the outrage will be worse.


People who kill multiple victims deserve life, throw away the key and no chance for parole. In my opinion, even a life sentence is too lenient for monsters like him.

I assume he can apply for parole:


He was sentenced to the maximum possible term of 21 years and was ordered to serve a minimum of 10 years in prison. The time he has already spent in prison counts toward the term.

10 years is all he could have to serve in prison for killing 77 people? Plus he gets 'time served' for what he has already been locked up for? That's a fucking disgrace and outrage.

Leefro
08-24-2012, 06:07 PM
What I have read Parole has not been mentioned but the can be put off indefinitely should he still pose a threat is mentioned quite often

deebakes
08-25-2012, 02:09 AM
:wtf2:

Basser
08-25-2012, 06:01 AM
Similar to that cunt where I live a few years ago......35 life sentences for the murders plus 1035 years for other crimes, and ordered that he should remain in prison for the rest of his life.....and costs thousands a year so he can breathe our air.
The effects of what he did is still ongoing.
Fuck the law, imho some cunts do not need to be still alive....and this Anders Breivik is one of them.
I am serious when I say some countries I despise have the right system in dealing with these fuckers...no fucking about - they be dead.


my apologies - end of rant.

Jezter
08-25-2012, 03:50 PM
21 years is the max in Norway, but the sentence can be lengthened 5 years at a time. So he will not ever get out.

Hal-9000
08-25-2012, 05:22 PM
They should use guys like him for ballistics testing.....put the latest bullet proof vest on him and see what size bullet it can withstand :thumbsup:

Godfather
08-26-2012, 06:06 AM
I read online that it was going to take $1.5 million a year to keep this fuck alive and look after him.... he's going on vacation basically.

I have no words...

Jezter
08-26-2012, 07:05 AM
Norskis have teh moneez.

deebakes
08-26-2012, 01:52 PM
*contemplates move to norway :-k