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Teh One Who Knocks
10-01-2012, 11:06 AM
ABC News


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(FORT MYERS, Fla.) -- Vice President Joe Biden placed the blame for the ballooning deficit on the Bush administration on Saturday, arguing that the previous administration saddled the country with the burden of trillions of dollars in debt.

“Let’s get serious here! How did we get this debt? Ladies and gentlemen, they put two wars on a credit card. Not paying a penny, not paying a penny, even though I introduced legislation to pay for that war. They voted against it,” Biden said at the Wa-Ke Hatchee Park Recreation Center. “Two, they voted for a new entitlement program without paying one penny for it, and that was clear. Number 3, they added another trillion dollars in the tax cut for the very wealthy, so what’s the result? These are the facts, folks, these are the facts.”

“The result was by the time the reins got turned back over to Barack [Obama] and me, they had doubled the national debt in eight years, doubled the national debt in eight years,” Biden added.

Biden recounted that within the first week of being in office, Larry Summers, a top economic adviser to the president, warned newly inaugurated President Obama of the deficit the country faced.

“We were sitting in the oval office, and Larry Summers, the chief economic adviser, and the economic team came in and said ‘Mr. President, looking at this year’s budget you are going to have a trillion dollar deficit.’ He said, ‘I haven’t done anything yet,’” Biden said. “I’m serious. They said, ‘No, Mr. President, the budget they passed, the budget they passed in October of last year guarantees no matter what you do you’re going to have a trillion dollar debt this year in the budget.’ A trillion dollar deficit to be precise.”

Earlier in the week, the Washington Post fact checked President Obama’s claim that the Bush administration’s policies accounted for 90 percent of the country’s current deficit and rated the assertion as false, since the president also pushed spending increases and tax cuts that added to the deficit.

Biden also claimed the Obama administration has proposed a plan that would reduce the deficit by $4 trillion over 10 years and has already decreased the deficit by $1 trillion

“We’ve already reduced the deficit. In four years, we’ll reduce it by another trillion dollars. Ladies and gentlemen look, there’s an easy way to do this. We have to make some difficult decisions. We’ve made them, but we’ve got to ask the very wealthy to pay more,” Biden said.

“President Obama and Vice President Biden have no credibility on reducing our national debt,” Amanda Henneberg, a spokeswoman for Romney, responded in a statement. “Over the last four years, the Obama-Biden team has presided over the largest increase in the national debt of any administration in history. And President Obama’s latest spending plan is riddled with accounting gimmicks and tax hikes, rather than policies that will get our long-term debt under control. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will take immediate steps to cut spending and put our nation on track toward a balanced budget.”

Biden mocked the GOP’s concern about the debt, saying, “I love how they bleed over the national debt,” but adding that Republicans would be unwilling to sign onto a deficit reduction plan that would promise $10 in cuts in spending in exchange for a dollar increase in revenue.

The vice president honed in on energy, touting the Obama administration’s work as well as highlighting what he believes is the GOP’s misunderstanding the role conservation plays in energy exploration and expansion.

“I love to hear them talk about their energy policy, which is ‘drill baby drill,’ right? OK, now let me say something about drilling. You all realize that there are more gas and oil rigs working today, pumping today, than all the rest of the rigs in the entire rest of the world. Do you know that? That’s a fact. That’s why we’re importing less than we have in decades, that’s why we’re in the position we’re moving in,” Biden said.

“Ladies and gentlemen, there is an exponential, exponential supply of natural gas done right and renewable energy that’s here in this country,” he said. “That’s why we doubled — and they voted against it — and Romney talked against it, we doubled the fuel economy standards for cars and trucks by 2025. That will save 12 billion barrels of oil over the period of time. I don’t know how they don’t think conservation is part of this. They, they sure don’t know it.”

FBD
10-01-2012, 11:21 AM
keep ignoring that the deficit explosion took place when the progressives took over congress, and that they voted for the wars and medicare part d...but hey, who pays attention to details?

RBP
10-01-2012, 01:39 PM
:facepalm:

Acid Trip
10-01-2012, 01:42 PM
“We’ve already reduced the deficit. In four years, we’ll reduce it by another trillion dollars. Ladies and gentlemen look, there’s an easy way to do this. We have to make some difficult decisions. We’ve made them, but we’ve got to ask the very wealthy to pay more,” Biden said.

More class warfare. Taxing the wealthy at 100% of their income WOULD NOT get us out of the red ink. It wouldn't even get us close.

Jezter
10-01-2012, 02:58 PM
Isn't it getting a bit old to blame Bush for everything? I mean... shit's fucked already. Time to do something about it and stop passing the buck.

Acid Trip
10-01-2012, 02:59 PM
Isn't it getting a bit old to blame Bush for everything? I mean... shit's fucked already. Time to do something about it and stop passing the buck.

A politician admitting to failure?

:rofl:

Good one Jez!

Jezter
10-01-2012, 03:05 PM
A politician admitting to failure?

:rofl:

Good one Jez!
Well if not admitting failure, just stop this "bush fucked everything up" shit and do something about it. Was it Bush's fault or anyone elses, this kind of blame game will not end with the next POTUS or the next after him/her unless someone seriously takes a different route. Soon it will be "Obama fucked everything up", then it will be "President X fucked everything up even worse!". It is like it was inbred "feature" of the politicians to blame others to make sure they ride the gravy train themselves. Actions speak louder than words, especially in politics.

FBD
10-01-2012, 03:09 PM
Isn't it getting a bit old to blame Bush for everything? I mean... shit's fucked already. Time to do something about it and stop passing the buck.
unfortunately "hitting the iceberg again" is just about the only trick up ol Biden's sleeve


Well if not admitting failure, just stop this "bush fucked everything up" shit and do something about it. Was it Bush's fault or anyone elses, this kind of blame game will not end with the next POTUS or the next after him/her unless someone seriously takes a different route. Soon it will be "Obama fucked everything up", then it will be "President X fucked everything up even worse!". It is like it was inbred "feature" of the politicians to blame others to make sure they ride the gravy train themselves. Actions speak louder than words, especially in politics.
they're lamenting that the wars ruined their headroom on government entitlement spending

Acid Trip
10-01-2012, 03:20 PM
Well if not admitting failure, just stop this "bush fucked everything up" shit and do something about it. Was it Bush's fault or anyone elses, this kind of blame game will not end with the next POTUS or the next after him/her unless someone seriously takes a different route. Soon it will be "Obama fucked everything up", then it will be "President X fucked everything up even worse!". It is like it was inbred "feature" of the politicians to blame others to make sure they ride the gravy train themselves. Actions speak louder than words, especially in politics.

They can't stop blaming Bush because then they'd have to run on what they've done. Quite frankly, they haven't done diddly squat to fix the mess we're in.

They passed a 2000 page health care law that 65% of the country was against (and adds to the deficit). They passed a banking law that is causing most banks to get rid free checking accounts and raise fees to cover lost income. They passed a 700+ billion stimulus that didn't keep unemployment from going over 8% (as promised) and only added to the debt.

In fact, the only thing Democrats have done is re-inflate the stock market. And that re-inflation is hurting everyone through price inflation on every day items. Obama will forever be the president who blamed Bush for everything.

FBD
10-01-2012, 03:24 PM
not to mention their EPA's arbitrary rules have cost the little guy big time in terms of spending money, look at the price of energystuffz. got people spending half their paycheck just to get to fkn work for crissakes.

Muddy
10-01-2012, 03:26 PM
Hey Bush, fucked a lot of shit up.. It's true... BUT, since then you've had a majority in all 3 areas of government.. You haven't fixed things.. It's simple.. You weren't able to do it.. Time for someone else with a little more experience and worldly knowledge to give er' a whack!

Jezter
10-01-2012, 03:29 PM
That's just it... Sure Bush fucked things up and for sure Obama hasn't done as well as hoped and wished for...but it is just that the next guy will always try his hardest to find something to blame the previous one about. That shit needs to stop and they need to actually do some fucking work!

FBD
10-01-2012, 04:05 PM
anyone with half a brain in their head knew Obama wasnt going to produce anything like the results expected from those inebriated by hope & change. all that was doing was bringing the same spendthrift policies over from the progressive ambush of 06 into the other branch of gov, except with the added meme of "since bush was a spendthrift, that means we can go whole hog spendthrift" and basically spend with reckless abandon - which they have, and with very predictable results.

-all in on entitlements, check;
-all in on union vote buys, gifting etc, check;
-all in on wacky unscientific environmental policies, check;
-all in on undermining inconvenient aspects of the constitution, like #2, check;
-all in on "controlling every aspect of the message,' check;
-all in on cronyism, pointing the finger elsewhere, making up the story as we go along...

its like they thought since bush got away with it then we can go crazy and get away with it. hence the record deficit-additions, the record food stamp participation, the record ss disability enrollments, on, and on, and on...

its tough to deal with reality when your economic philosophy mandates that you ignore it.

FBD
10-01-2012, 04:17 PM
but regardless of any of that, who spends what, the fact of the matter is, we have far more government than we are willing to pay for, evidenced by the 42 cents on every dollar we're borrowing for federal spending.

http://www.oftwominds.com/blogoct12/govt-inflation10-12.html

But it is striking that the highest inflation is occurring in precisely those sectors dominated by government spending: medical and college costs.

PorkChopSandwiches
10-01-2012, 04:21 PM
I blame Lincoln. I mean shit, look whats happening at the BET awards

Jezter
10-01-2012, 04:24 PM
I blame Lincoln. I mean shit, look whats happening at the BET awards

Porky for Prez 2012! :lol:

RBP
10-01-2012, 04:42 PM
I blame Lincoln. I mean shit, look whats happening at the BET awards

Did a white guy win? :-k

PorkChopSandwiches
10-01-2012, 04:55 PM
everyone won

RBP
10-01-2012, 04:56 PM
I didn't.

Jezter
10-01-2012, 04:58 PM
I didn't.

Loser Sr.

PorkChopSandwiches
10-01-2012, 04:59 PM
A bunch of thugs started shooting at each other, so yes you won too

RBP
10-01-2012, 04:59 PM
sweet... black on black is my favorite kind of violence. :lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
10-01-2012, 05:00 PM
and p0rn

RBP
10-01-2012, 05:02 PM
and ice cream

Teh One Who Knocks
10-01-2012, 05:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sssqBjaTzOU

Muddy
10-01-2012, 05:42 PM
*Ziinnnnng!*