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Teh One Who Knocks
10-04-2012, 01:54 PM
By Steve Chawkins, Los Angeles Times


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Less than a month after approving restrictions on Halloween activities by registered sex offenders, the city of Simi Valley has been sued, accused of violating their 1st Amendment rights and those of their families.

The city's new law bans Halloween displays and outside lighting every Oct. 31 at the homes of people convicted of sex crimes. For offenders listed on the Megan's Law website, the city also requires a sign on the front door in letters at least an inch tall: "No candy or treats at this residence."

Both the prohibition on decorations and the mandatory sign violate free speech rights, according to the lawsuit.

A total of 119 registered sex offenders live in Simi Valley. Although some have been convicted of misdemeanors and do not have their names displayed, 67 have been guilty of more serious crimes and are publicly listed on the website. None has been involved in crimes involving children on Halloween, according to police, who say they have no records of any such crime occurring in Simi Valley during Halloween trick-or-treating.

City officials have said the action was preemptive and modeled after ordinances adopted by other cities in Southern California. City documents supporting the ordinance say trick-or-treating offers "significant opportunities for sex offenders to victimize children."

A number of California communities, including parts of Riverside County and the city of Orange, enforce Halloween restrictions on sex offenders.

Representing five registered sex offenders, three of their wives and two of their children, attorney Janice Bellucci said Monday she plans to ask a federal judge for an injunction to keep the city from enforcing its new law this Halloween. She filed suit Friday in U.S. District Court. Her clients were not named.

Bellucci, head of an advocacy group called California Reform Our Sex Offender Laws, said there have been no similar lawsuits in California. Her clients, she said, were particularly upset by the sign requirement.

"To us, it's similar to branding," she said. "We can think of what happened in Nazi Germany, where Jews had to appear in public wearing yellow stars."

Mayor Bob Huber, who proposed the ordinance, declined to comment because of the litigation. City Atty. Marjorie Baxter was unavailable but has said the suit was groundless.

Richard Cranium
10-04-2012, 05:18 PM
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RBP
10-04-2012, 05:23 PM
Seems a bit over the top.

DemonGeminiX
10-04-2012, 05:59 PM
Is it though? Doesn't public shaming make people think twice about the act that got them in trouble in the first place? Furthermore, aren't sex offenders normally required as a part of sentencing to stay away from children? I think these cats are just using Halloween as an attempt to circumvent that requirement.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-04-2012, 06:02 PM
Is it though? Doesn't public shaming make people think twice about the act that got them in trouble in the first place? Futhermore, aren't sex offenders normally required as a part of sentencing to stay away from children? I think these cats are just using Halloween as an attempt to circumvent that requirement.

Plus to have the nerve to compare themselves to the Jews in Nazi Germany? :-s

:thumbsdown:

If they so much love celebrating Halloween, maybe they should have thought about it before they molested some kid somewhere.

RBP
10-04-2012, 06:09 PM
You guys are assuming that the registry is for child sex crimes and it is not just that.

So a paroled murderer can hand out candy but a paroled rapist cannot? What sense does that make? I guess people should make sure they kill their victims instead of fucking them.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-04-2012, 06:11 PM
You guys are assuming that the registry is for child sex crimes and it is not just that.

So a paroled murderer can hand out candy but a paroled rapist cannot? What sense does that make? I guess people should make sure they kill their victims instead of fucking them.

Nice straw man argument.

Sorry, but it is all summed up with the following: if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. End of.

I am sick and tired of listening to ex-cons whine about the loss of their rights.

RBP
10-04-2012, 06:16 PM
Nice straw man argument.

Sorry, but it is all summed up with the following: if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. End of.

I am sick and tired of listening to ex-cons whine about the loss of their rights.

But they did the time. :-s

The registry is a joke and shouldn't be the basis for further punishment.

PorkChopSandwiches
10-04-2012, 06:18 PM
But they did the time. :-s

The registry is a joke and shouldn't be the basis for further punishment.

I like to know if they are living in my neighborhood.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-04-2012, 06:19 PM
But they did the time. :-s

The registry is a joke and shouldn't be the basis for further punishment.

So you think that some guy that raped three kids all under the age of 12 for example, that went to prison, did his time, and then gets out should be allowed to live near an elementary school or a playground?

RBP
10-04-2012, 06:23 PM
So you think that some guy that raped three kids all under the age of 12 for example, that went to prison, did his time, and then gets out should be allowed to live near an elementary school or a playground?

No I don't... that's a condition of his parole and that's fine.

Using a registry for police work is not my concern.

RBP
10-04-2012, 06:25 PM
I like to know if they are living in my neighborhood.

Morbid curiosity? and who is they?

What if a child murderer is living in your neighborhood? do you have the right to know that too?

Yt Trash
10-04-2012, 11:01 PM
Don't you have to register as a sex offender if you are busted urinating in public? Just throwing that out there. I'm not supporting these guys or taking their side.