My thoughts..

[Muddy]

Here lately I have been sensitive to the word "ginger" and the negative connotation some people put on it.. I've gotten to the point where I think it may be one the last forms of racism/discrimination that may be out there.. Some of the stuff people say is really over the top cruel.. Do you think I am wrong in feeling this way? I had some 13 year old girl cracking "ginger jokes" in my face over the weekend and I thought I was going to have to tell her to go fuck herself for a minute.. I almost felt like she was calling me nigger...

What do you think?

[Hal-9000]

I cringe when I read the N word being used flippantly above


I guess we all have our buttons.....

[RBP]

What's the difference between a Ginger and a vampire? One is a pale, bloodsucking creature that avoids the sun. The other is a vampire.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

You take life too serious Muddy, just relax

[Muddy]

You take life too serious Muddy, just relax

I am wound tight.. This is true.. But sometimes it can get really disrespectful.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

joking and disrespectful is a fine line, I've been trying to explain that to my son lately who thinks he's hilarious. The problem is, is he is pretty funny, but he shouldn't be talking to me like that :lol:

[Hal-9000]

Seriously...
I think when you're being really discriminated against, like not getting a job or people think you have low intelligence because of how you look....that's bad.

We don't do much of the ginger bashing up here..hell, my hair is turning strawberry dark blonde or whatever and people comment on it. I'm so used to being disrespected for other things, I can't say that the ginger thing gets on my nerves :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

This is why I'm glad I'm not a father. I'd have to throw a beatdown hard on a little kid if they were a smartass to me. And in this day and age, my ass would be in jail for going off on a kid the way I know I would.


Body slam, pile driver, drop the elbow...

[Muddy]

Seriously...
I think when you're being really discriminated against, like not getting a job or people think you have low intelligence because of how you look....that's bad.

We don't do much of the ginger bashing up here..hell, my hair is turning strawberry dark blonde or whatever and people comment on it. I'm so used to being disrespected for other things, I can't say that the ginger thing gets on my nerves :lol:

Im not a carrot top ginger by any means.. All my kids turned out blonde.. Like I say it's only when someone grinds on it and makes it a running joke that I get irritated..

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Im not a carrot top ginger by any means..

You mean you're not that ripped?

[Muddy]

You mean you're not that ripped?

The only steroid Ive ever taken is prednisone.. :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

Put the little kid in a choke hold...

"What'd you say, you little fucker?! What'd you say?!?"

[redred]

well i enjoy looking at the redhead section of porn sites so i don't have a problem with you strawberry blonde types , i wouldn't agree that it was on the same terms as nigger though

[Muddy]

Put the little kid in a choke hold...

"What'd you say, you little fucker?! What'd you say?!?"

I asked her if she told fried chicken and watermelon jokes to the blacks at school also..

[Hal-9000]

Im not a carrot top ginger by any means.. All my kids turned out blonde.. Like I say it's only when someone grinds on it and makes it a running joke that I get irritated..


You're not gonna like this....but it's similar to riffing on people because they're black. If you're a black dude reading some of our forum posts......


not saying it's right, but it fully exists in other forms.

[Muddy]

You're not gonna like this....but it's similar to riffing on people because they're black. If you're a black dude reading some of our forum posts......


not saying it's right, but it fully exists in other forms.

I like it just fine if the words we speak are fact based.. But shit like "Gingers have no souls" is a little different than the actual criminal statistics of who's doing what in America.. So I respectfully reject your comparison.

[Hal-9000]

I was wearing some bright pink sunglasses and walking across the park behind my house one day....3 little dudes, maximum age 8 or 10 start saying - Hey! Nice glasses! Are they your sister's??? Hey Mister, you look like a FAG!

I stopped, took 2 steps towards the swings and they were gone...


damn bullies hurt my feelings :oops: :(

[Hal-9000]

I like it just fine if the words we speak are fact based.. But shit like "Gingers have no souls" is a little different than the actual criminal statistics of who's doing what in America.. So I respectfully reject your comparison.

and it is with respect I reject this....not all of our comments of color refer to crime :lol:

[Muddy]

and it is with respect I reject this....not all of our comments of color refer to crime :lol:

I'd be glad to debate any specific examples you can find.. :-k

[Hugh_Janus]

What do you think?

what do I think...? Are you white? Are you a man? If you answer yes to those questions, then you can't be discriminated against.... so suck it up, tubbs :slap:

[RBP]

what do I think...? Are you white? Are you a man? If you answer yes to those questions, then you can't be discriminated against.... so suck it up, tubbs :slap:

That's bullshit.

[Hal-9000]

I'd be glad to debate any specific examples you can find.. :-k


Please :lol:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

I care nothing for street negro music.
...

[DemonGeminiX]

I was wearing some bright pink sunglasses and walking across the park behind my house one day....3 little dudes, maximum age 8 or 10 start saying - Hey! Nice glasses! Are they your sister's??? Hey Mister, you look like a FAG!

I stopped, took 2 steps towards the swings and they were gone...


damn bullies hurt my feelings :oops: :(

:-s

Pink sunglasses?







You know how I know you're gay?

:d


what do I think...? Are you white? Are you a man? If you answer yes to those questions, then you can't be discriminated against.... so suck it up, tubbs :slap:


... and this coming from a Brony.

[Muddy]

...

Wheres the issue? :lol:

The word “Negro” is used in the English-speaking world to refer to a person of black ancestry or appearance. The word negro denotes 'black' in the Spanish and Portuguese speaking vocabulary, or from the ancient Latin, niger, 'black', probably from a Proto-Indo-European root *nekw-, 'to be dark', akin to *nokw- 'night'.[1][2]

"Negro" superseded "colored" as the most polite terminology, at a time when "black" was more offensive.[3] This usage was accepted as normal, even by people classified as Negroes, until the later Civil Rights movement in the late 1960s. One well-known example is the identification by Martin Luther King, Jr. of his own race as 'Negro' in his famous 1963 speech I Have a Dream.

The United States Census Bureau announced that "Negro" would be included on the 2010 United States Census, alongside "Black" and "African-American"

[DemonGeminiX]

Swing low... sweet chariot... comin' for to carry me home...

[Hal-9000]

you bring up a good point (with my subtle help..)

People get discriminated against every day, either with humor or worse. So how can we cry foul when someone takes a shot at you (us) because of the way we look? I'm not saying it's wrong to get offended, but I do think it's important to understand why.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

[Hal-9000]

this is so cool....just last week we had a 'Sensitivity Meeting' encompassing harassment and comments to do with race or lifestyle choice...

you may have read about the group I work with :lol: We ALL hassle each other about color/habits.....


Supervisor was good - NO ONE will swear at another employee for any reason. We don't need that here. Only your Mom and Dad can swear at you.


:lol:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

http://i.imgur.com/XkJNO.jpg

[Muddy]

Is gingerism as bad as racism?

http://i48.tinypic.com/25f7x1x.jpg

A red-haired family claims to have been driven from their Newcastle home because of abuse. Why is the harassment of redheads dismissed as just harmless fun?

Here's a joke. "What's the difference between a terrorist and a redhead?"

Here's the punchline. "You can negotiate with a terrorist."

Is this offensive? If it was made in your workplace, within hearing of a redheaded colleague, would you make a fuss? Probably not.

But mock someone's ethnicity, religion or sexuality and you will attract the beady eye of management. Make a sexist joke and prepare to be dismissed as an antediluvian relic.

Verbal abuse

Carrot-top, copper-top, ginger-nut, ginger minger, bluey (among Australians), Duracell, Ronald McDonald, Simply Red, Queen Elizabeth. And so on for hours and hours of the typical redhead's life. No wonder some gloss over their hair colour as "auburn" and "strawberry blonde" and even "titian".

Photographer Charlotte Rushton has been chronicling the UK's redheads for a book, Ginger Snaps. Of the 300 she snapped, only two have been spared bullying because of their hair. She herself has suffered verbal abuse from complete strangers.

"I was on the Tube, pregnant, and I was really humiliated by this drunk yob. He was shouting 'do the cuffs and the collars match?' He got right up into my face. You don't do that to other people."

She believes the phenomenon is long-standing and uniquely British in its most virulent form.

"In other countries redheads will get teased at school but it stops when they become adults. If you are a woman you are fiery and alluring, beautiful."

In adult life, women get stereotyped and red-haired men take much of the worst abuse. Treatment of red-haired children in school ranges from mild taunts to grim persecution.

Michele Eliot, the American director of British children's charity Kidscape, regularly has significant numbers of red-haired children in courses on coping with bullying.

"There is nothing like this in the US where having red hair is not a precursor to having someone abuse you. Red hair is considered glamorous."

Bullies at school and in later life may sense that ill-treatment of the red-haired will not be treated as seriously by the authorities as persecution of other groups.

"Bullies think that person is outside the norm, they will be able to attack them. The bullies find something to pick on. The bully has a problem and needs a victim," Ms Eliot says.

Racism row

While there has been at least one report of a serious anti-red hair hate crime in the UK - a 20-year-old stabbed in the back in 2003 - it's unclear whose responsibility it is to monitor discrimination.

"It is certainly not us," says the Commission for Racial Equality.

Conservative backbencher Patrick Mercer, when recently sacked for alleged racism, sought to get himself out of a hole by comparing treatment of black soldiers to those with red hair.

"That's the way it is in the Army. If someone is slow on the assault course, you'd get people shouting: 'Come on you fat bastard, come on you ginger bastard, come on you black bastard.'"

One of these three epithets would now be regarded as totally unacceptable, and possibly against the law. Even the first, mocking someone's weight, is under a sustained assault from feminists and those concerned about what society's treatment of weight issues does to vulnerable teenagers.

But the abuse can be far from innocuous.

"We talk about kicking racism out of sport but this is just as bad in its way," said Reading striker Dave Kitson in 2005. He can't have been delighted when the Daily Star reported his remarks under the headline "Kitson's a right ginger whinger". Or when players' association chief Gordon Taylor said: "It belittles racism to compare the two issues."

Journalist Sharon Jaffa - also a red-head - says society must stop its ginger-baiting.

"Growing up as a redhead I was lucky enough to escape with just the occasional name-calling - having the surname Jaffa was no doubt a double-whammy. But attacking someone on the basis of their hair colour can be every bit as damaging as persecuting someone for their race or religion, and therefore, in some cases, needs to be taken just as seriously."

Red hair has great cultural resonance. Red is the colour of heat, danger and warnings. When applied to women, it is the colour of sensuousness, fiery temperament and emotional instability.

"Lilith [Adam's lover] was a redhead. It indicates red hair was bad. Shakespeare made all his most menacing characters wear red wigs. That seeps into culture," Ms Rushton says.

Stress release

So when does this date from? Some claim it could be a throwback to anti-Irish sentiment from the 19th Century and before when the Irish, with a greater prevalence of red hair, were regarded as ethnically inferior.

Patrick O'Sullivan, head of the Irish Diaspora Research Unit, says he has never come across a link. "People could feel forbidden to attack their usual victims and are searching around for ones that have not yet achieved the protection of the law."

Professor Larry Ray, a sociologist at the University of Kent and an expert on racial discrimination, says the perpetrators could be habitual bullies. "If they are engaging in one kind of harassment they are engaging in others. They are looking for targets."

For those who claim their workplace taunts are just harmless banter, it could be stress rather than an anthropological aversion to red hair.

Workplace psychologist Professor Cary Cooper, of Lancaster University, says abuse can be "an unhealthy release valve for stress" and redheads, as a visible minority not protected by law, have become a target.

While other forms of the discrimination are the subject of marches, lobbying and education campaigns, redheads cannot expect the arrival of the politically correct cavalry anytime soon.

[minz]

I kinda get where muddy is coming from, my Son (the troublesome one) made it his lifes mission to come home from school every night with a new blonde joke just for me, after a few years it gets a little bit trying. :(

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Puuuuh Leeeeeeeese

[Jezter]

Come on old dick biscuit! Abuse them back like you abuse me here. :lol:

[Muddy]

Puuuuh Leeeeeeeese

Fuck off, Fatso! :x



:lol:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

I lost a lot of weight

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3p7jbiNcWj0/SRzDMyxL8oI/AAAAAAAABv8/nEGqLWOOUxU/s400/gordo1nx7.jpg

[Hal-9000]

so gingers have no souls?

that would explain why Ron Weasely got fucked over in the last Harry Potter film :-k

[Noilly Pratt]

Here's my take on Racism as a whole...

The world just is not the same as it was say in the beginning of the 20th century. Usually, you'd go to work in your place of residence, see the same people day in and day out and live and die with similar folks around you no matter what your creed or color or belief system you may have had. Most of you were the same.

Now, the world seems smaller - we can all communicate virtually instantaneously, and any deep deep prejudices we may have had, can surface. Even if they were just echoes of what our parents might've thought -- those people are the ones you respected and part of you , wrong or right, said "gee, maybe there's something to what they believed".

In my job it's like the United Nations. I communicate with someone in Ireland for my mainframe software, someone in Argentina for Novell stuff, India for a lot of the software and have done so for many years. My findings is that there are pricks and there are gems of people in all creeds and colours out there...and everyone should be given a fair chance. We should celebrate our similarities, instead of our differences because the similarities outweigh the differences by far.

I think this thinking will prevail, once we actually HAVE to interact, but we are in the in-between generation. The ones who knew what it was like before all this inter-mixing.

There are some that will never change, and unfortunately poision the next generation. This is the learned component of racism. But I think there's something inherent in us that we have to resist...they say a baby will smile at a "pretty" (more symmetrical or familiar) face and frown more at an "ugly" face (less symmetrical, or familiar). Our first prejudice...you're not the one who feeds/cares for me so I don't want to know you...I need to see the person who keeps me alive. It's how we survived.

It may be within us, but we decide if its right or not.

And people wonder why the Aliens haven't visited...we can't even get along with each other let alone another species from someplace else! :)

[Jezter]

This ginger thing seesm harmless joking for the most part, but I do understand that it gets personal and annoying if someone has it as his job to come up with new ginger related shit to tease you with. Other than that, I don't see it as too bad... It is same with any other physical trait; too much is too much. Racist or not, but bullying in all forms is fucking stupid.

[Hal-9000]

This ginger thing seesm harmless joking for the most part, but I do understand that it gets personal and annoying if someone has it as his job to come up with new ginger related shit to tease you with. Other than that, I don't see it as too bad... It is same with any other physical trait; too much is too much. Racist or not, but bullying in all forms is fucking stupid.

I had a huge growth spurt in grade 3, 4. I was almost 6 feet tall and 180 pounds in grade 4....I got called a lot of names (that related to size or fat). Even my brother took a bowl of ravioli (family size can) and 4 pieces of toast from me one day at lunch and said - I don't want a fat little brother! :x

that shit hurt, but it was something I could and I did change....it wasn't skin or hair color.

[Hal-9000]

I don't like girls with ginger crotches...definite bias against that one :oops:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

I don't like girls with ginger crotches...definite bias against that one :oops:

:slap: Are you fucking high?

[redred]

:slap: Are you fucking high?

:+1:

[RBP]

Oh..... Naggers

[Hal-9000]

:slap: Are you fucking high?

nooooo...and fire crotches are yucky to the 10th power

[Richard Cranium]

I vow to never call muddy a ginger.




Is ginger even a race?

[minz]

I have completely lost this conversation now. :wha:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

We lose focus quickly

[Muddy]

I have completely lost this conversation now. :wha:

Hal is a wegro..

[PorkChopSandwiches]

wiigro

[Teh One Who Knocks]

We lose focus quickly

http://imageshack.us/a/img688/9356/karatekidsesleeve12.jpg

[Pony]

I personally wouldn't consider it racism. However like any other type of teasing/bullying there is a line when stuff ceases to be funny. As the "ginger" teasing has gotten a lot worse in recent years (south park?) I can understand how you would have strong personal feelings about it Muddy.

[Hal-9000]

Hal is a wegro..


wiigro

:hand: hal is a PC-gro

[Hal-9000]

I kinda get where muddy is coming from, my Son (the troublesome one) made it his lifes mission to come home from school every night with a new blonde joke just for me, after a few years it gets a little bit trying. :(


I have completely lost this conversation now. :wha:


*staples mouth shut*

[Hal-9000]

I personally wouldn't consider it racism. However like any other type of teasing/bullying there is a line when stuff ceases to be funny. As the "ginger" teasing has gotten a lot worse in recent years (south park?) I can understand how you would have strong personal feelings about it Muddy.

It's a good discussion (figures a ginger would come up with the sensitive stuff...j/k :lol:)

I think it can be likened to a form of racism. People are being judged/teased based on their physical appearance............

[Teh One Who Knocks]

People are being judged/teased based on their physical appearance............

I hear that, I was mercilessly teased in high school because of my 24" penis :sad2:

[DemonGeminiX]

I hear that, I was mercilessly teased in high school because of my 24" penis :sad2:

:-s

You need to get off those hallucinogens.

[Hal-9000]

I hear that, I was mercilessly teased in high school because of my 24" penis :sad2:

Must have been a drag, with them 22 inch legs and all........













:dance: I'm here all afternoon folks!!!!!!

[minz]

:lol:

[minz]

*staples mouth shut*

Wise decision!

[Hal-9000]

Wise decision!


Hey ginger-chick! :x

you don't get an opinion so button it

[Hal-9000]

pop quiz....Ginger or Mary Ann?








MARY ANN, always :dance:

[minz]

Hey ginger-chick! :x

you don't get an opinion so button it

I'm not ginger I'm blonde :hand:

[Hal-9000]

bottled blonde........:rolleyes:




Don't worry, I won't tell :)

[minz]

bottled blonde........:rolleyes:




Don't worry, I won't tell :)

I am a bottle blonde, my natural colour is dark brown, but I've not seen it for about 20 years :lol:

[Hal-9000]

my natural hair color is bright orange, but due to beatings/abuse I've not seen it for over 20 years :lol:

[Muddy]

I hear that, I was mercilessly teased in high school because of my 24" penis :sad2:

:empathy:

[Muddy]

Top 25 Famous Redheads

Gentlemen prefer blondes (or so the saying goes) but from time to time they prefer brunettes (take the 90s for example). In earlier history they preferred redheads. These days redheads get a bad wrap – being referred to as “gingers” and other unpleasant names. This list is their redemption! A focus entirely on redheads. So, here are the 25 most significant redheads in history. This list is in no particular order.

1. Carol Burnett (b. 1933) – American comedienne and actress most famous for her own variety show, The Carol Burnett Show (1967-1978). She also appeared on Mama’s Family in a few episodes reprising the role of Eunice that she created with co-star Vickie Lawrence, and as Jamie’s mother on Mad About You. In addition, she’s done several films and voice-overs. However, she will most likely be remembered most for her ear-tugging salute to her grandmother, her hilarious Tarzan call, and her parody of Gone with the Wind called Went with the Wind.

2. Lucille Ball (1911 – 1989) – American comedienne and actress most famous for the historic early sitcom she created with real-life husband Desi Arnaz called I Love Lucy (1951-1957). I Love Lucy was memorable for being the first American TV show to star a female and one of the first American TV shows to present a pregnant woman, although they weren’t allowed to say the word “pregnant.” The most watched episode in American TV history during that time was when Lucy gave birth to Little Ricky during the show’s second season. Many of the famous situations on the show are old vaudeville routines, and one of the most memorable is the Chocolate Factory. [Pictured above]

3. Margaret Sanger (1879 – 1966) – She ushered in the modern age of women’s liberation by fostering birth control. She successfully mobilized American women to take an active role in the decision to have or not have children. One of her organizations would eventually become Planned Parenthood, and she lived long enough to actively campaign for the legalization of the birth control pill.

4. Judas Iscariot (d. 29-33) – One of the twelve disciples of Jesus Christ who betrayed Him and identified Christ for Roman soldiers with a kiss in the Garden of Gethsemane for 30 pieces of silver. According to most biblical accounts, Judas was later overcome with guilt and returned the silver and hanged himself, although some accounts have him living several years longer before dying.

5. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme (b. 1948) – One of Charles Manson’s family members who had a passive role in the Tate-LaBianca murders in 1969 and an active role in the attempted assassination of US President Gerald Ford in 1975. For the latter, she received a life sentence which she is serving in Texas despite a two-day escape in 1987.

6. Geri Halliwell (b. 1972) – Otherwise known as Ginger Spice, she is the most musically successful of all the former members of the Spice Girls, releasing three acclaimed solo albums and participating in the Spice Girls Reunion Tour of 2007.

7. L. Ron Hubbard (1911 – 1986) – Science fiction writer and founder of the Church of Scientology. An exceptional con artist who hooked up with Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley after WWII, Hubbard switched from writing science fiction to publishing his definitive work, Dianetics, which would eventually lead directly to the creation of Scientology. [Pictured above]

8. Bernadette Peters (b. 1948) – American actress, singer, and Broadway star, probably best known for her role as Marie in Steve Martin’s 1979 film The Jerk, and as Annie Oakley in the 1999 Broadway revival of Annie Get Your Gun.

9. Napoleon Bonaparte (1761 – 1829) – French military and political figure who had a significant hand in the French Revolution, then turned around and declared himself Emperor of France in 1804. Napoleon was despised by both Beethoven, who originally dedicated his Third Symphony in Eb Major (Eroica) to Napoleon and then changed his mind, and Tchaikovsky, who depicted the French defeat in Moscow with the 1812 Overture. He was exiled twice and eventually died on the island of St. Helena.

10. Lizzie Borden (1860 – 1927) – Famous accused American hatchet murderess of her father and step-mother in Massachusetts in 1892. She was tried and acquitted of the murders although public scorn punished her for the rest of her life. She remains immortalized in American folklore with an infamous jump-rope rhyme about the murders, as well as a humorous folk song.

11. Cleopatra (69BC – 30BC) – Female Egyptian ruler who formed political liaisons and romantic relationships with Julius Caesar and Mark Antony. After being defeated by Augustus, she famously committed suicide by allowing herself to be bitten by an asp.

12. Oliver Cromwell (1599 – 1658) – Here’s a touchy one. He’s known as either an English military and political genius, or the scourge of Ireland. He helped create the English Commonwealth in 1649 after the execution of Charles I and then mounted a brutal campaign to subdue the Irish the next year. He died of natural causes in 1658 and was then exhumed and posthumously executed in 1661. [Pictured above]

13. Emily Dickinson (1830 – 1886) – American poet known for her reclusive behavior as well as her quietly prolific poetry. Although she had some of her writings published during her lifetime, it was not until after she died that the bulk of her massive output was finally made available to the public by her family.

14. Willie Nelson (b. 1933) – Texas native Willie Nelson began his career as a country singer/songwriter trying to break into the standardized world of Nashville country and western, and he wrote several hits for other artists including Patsy Cline’s immortal Crazy. However, after being unable to break into the Nashville inner circle for himself, Nelson returned to his native Texas and helped create the outlaw country movement with fellow Texan Waylon Jennings in the 1970’s.

15. Antonio Vivaldi (1678 – 1741) – Vivaldi was an Italian composer of the late Baroque era. Although he was originally trained for the priesthood, he is probably best known for his brilliant concerti (and concerti grosso) including The Four Seasons.

16. Thomas Jefferson (1743 – 1826) – Third U.S. President from 1801 to 1809. A native Virginian, Jefferson was the chief author of the Declaration of Independence. He was primarily an agrarian-minded president, and would serve as an inspiration to a generation of secessionist Southerners. He negotiated the Louisiana Purchase with fellow redhead Naplolean Bonaparte, and died on the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

17. Vincent Van Gogh (1853 – 1890) – Dutch post-Impressionist painter who lived in relative obscurity, yet, his paintings routinely fetch the largest sums at auctions. Probably best known for Starry Night, he was beset by a myriad of mental disturbances, and famously cut off the lobe of his ear in 1888.

18. James Joyce (1882 – 1941) – Irish 20th Century writer, best known for Ulysses and Finnegan’s Wake. Joyce was an expatriate, living in Paris and fleeing the Nazi invasion in 1940 to find safety and death in Switzerland.

19. Mark Twain (1835 – 1910) – Pen name of American humorist and author Samuel Langhorne Clemens. Many of his stories are about the 19th century American riverboat culture (The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn), and his pen name was taken from a common call by a riverboat leadsman.

20. Galileo Galilei (1564 – 1642) – Italian astronomer and physicist, perhaps best known for advancing the use of the telescope to verify the theories of Copernicus and describing the laws of motion for falling bodies and projectiles. Galileo was forced to recant his astronomical findings by the Church, and lived the remainder of his life under house arrest. [Pictured above]

21. Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965) – British politician who served as the indomitable bulldog Prime Minister during World War II. His inspiration and tenacity served to solidify British willpower during the German bombings of 1940.

22. Vladimir Lenin (1870 – 1924) – Russian revolutionary politician and statesman, born Vladimir Ilrich Ulyanov. Lenin was the architect of the Soviet Union following the Russian Revolution of 1917, and he was the first Soviet premier until his early death. His preserved body is still on display at his mausoleum in Red Square in Moscow.

23. Malcolm X (1925 – 1965) – African American spiritual leader of the Nation of Islam during the American Civil Rights movement. Born Malcolm Little, he converted to Islam while in prison and became a powerful activist for black Americans until his unsolved assassination in 1965.

24. Elizabeth I (1533 – 1603) – English queen and daughter of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn. She was the last Tudor queen, and her reign included the contributions of William Shakespeare and Francis Drake. [Pictured above]

25. King David (1037 BC – 967 BC) – King of Israel who succeeded Saul, and slayer of the Philistine giant Goliath. David was an accomplished lyre player and is credited with composing the majority of the Book of Psalms.

[DemonGeminiX]

L. Ron Hubbard was a douchebag. And Malcolm X? Really?!?

I'm not even gonna talk about the historical figures of which no evidence to the assertion exists.

:lol:

[Hal-9000]

Malcom X......hmmmm

[Muddy]

L. Ron Hubbard was a douchebag. And Malcolm X? Really?!?

I'm not even gonna talk about the historical figures of which no evidence to the assertion exists.

:lol:

Douchebag or not he was a brilliant guy that was able to influence a huge mass....



And Malcolm x... Look it up.. His nickname was Detroit Red...

[PorkChopSandwiches]

I aint looking up shit

[DemonGeminiX]

Douchebag or not he was a brilliant guy that was able to influence a huge mass....



And Malcolm x... Look it up.. His nickname was Detroit Red...

No... Hubbard was a shitty scifi author and a sheister who figured out how to scam relatively stupid people. That's not brilliance. Hardly a guy to be proud of being lumped into a group with.

And I would hardly classify Malcolm X as a ginger just because he had a red hue to his brown hair, which came about because of his white grandfather that raped his black grandmother. And again, considering that he considered all white people "devils", hardly a guy that you should be proud to be lumped into a group with.

Sorry, dude.

[Leefro]

No... Hubbard was a shitty scifi author and a sheister who figured out how to scam relatively stupid people. That's not brilliance. Hardly a guy to be proud of being lumped into a group with.

And I would hardly classify Malcolm X as a ginger just because he had a red hue to his brown hair, which came about because of his white grandfather that raped his black grandmother. And again, considering that he considered all white people "devils", hardly a guy that you should be proud to be lumped into a group with.

Sorry, dude.


Watch the film

[deebakes]

wow, i never would have expected this thread topic to come up :lol:

[Muddy]

No... Hubbard was a shitty scifi author and a sheister who figured out how to scam relatively stupid people. That's not brilliance. Hardly a guy to be proud of being lumped into a group with.

And I would hardly classify Malcolm X as a ginger just because he had a red hue to his brown hair, which came about because of his white grandfather that raped his black grandmother. And again, considering that he considered all white people "devils", hardly a guy that you should be proud to be lumped into a group with.

Sorry, dude.

The list is 25 famous redheads.. Whether you personally agree with or don't care for their philosophies or antics doesn't make them any less famous or influential. Don't apologize to me if you can't see that. It's not my fault or problem.. :lol:

[FBD]

funny cuz ginger isnt even red, unless you're talking the pickled kind you get at the sushi restaurant.

[Richard Cranium]

Alfred E Newman and Howdy Doody should be added to the list/

[DemonGeminiX]

The list is 25 famous redheads.. Whether you personally agree with or don't care for their philosophies or antics doesn't make them any less famous or influential. Don't apologize to me if you can't see that. It's not my fault or problem.. :lol:

25 famous redheads that you posted implying that you have something in common with that makes you proud of being associated with these figures. I pointed out two of these "famous" people that you might not want to associate yourself with. In actuality, there's a few more in there I can point out. I see your intentions. See, I point this stuff out and you don't want to be associated with these people anymore. But you just can't back out of this one that easily. Nuh uh. :nono:

Us brunettes and/or blondes wouldn't post crap like this to make ourselves feel better about being teased by a shitty little kid. We'd just punt the little jackass over our brand new fence that we put up to block our neighbor's view of our floodlights.

[-( :nana:

[Hal-9000]

pop quiz....Ginger or Mary Ann?








MARY ANN, always :dance:


damn...that hal is a firecracker :dance:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

pop quiz....Ginger or Mary Ann?








MARY ANN, always :dance:


damn...that hal is a firecracker :dance:

:tumble:

[Hal-9000]

I made that one up...thread content...humor...nostalgia...

I'm so under appreciated :sad2:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I made that one up...thread content...humor...nostalgia...

I'm so under appreciated :sad2:

:empathy:

[Muddy]

25 famous redheads that you posted implying that you have something in common with that makes you proud of being associated with these figures. I pointed out two of these "famous" people that you might not want to associate yourself with. In actuality, there's a few more in there I can point out. I see your intentions. See, I point this stuff out and you don't want to be associated with these people anymore. But you just can't back out of this one that easily. Nuh uh. :nono:

Us brunettes and/or blondes wouldn't post crap like this to make ourselves feel better about being teased by a shitty little kid. We'd just punt the little jackass over our brand new fence that we put up to block our neighbor's view of our floodlights.

[-( :nana:

Im sorry Bubba, but you're wrong.. I didn't modify the list because I wasn't trying to see things thorough rose colored glasses. Take the good with the bad..

And the only reason the teasing kid is an issue is becasue there was a 7 year old little red head boy near me that she was actually making the comment about...

So it spurred in me to point out the crap he and I and people of the likes have to hear..

[DemonGeminiX]

I definitely would have kicked the crap out of the kids if they were picking on a little 7 year old all by his lonesome.

[Muddy]

I definitely would have kicked the crap out of the kids if they were picking on a little 7 year old all by his lonesome.

You cant do that to a 13 year old girl.. Plus making fun of redheads has become such a favorite pastime here lately, people would look at you like a overly sensitive monster.

[Acid Trip]

Here lately I have been sensitive to the word "ginger" and the negative connotation some people put on it.. I've gotten to the point where I think it may be one the last forms of racism/discrimination that may be out there.. Some of the stuff people say is really over the top cruel.. Do you think I am wrong in feeling this way? I had some 13 year old girl cracking "ginger jokes" in my face over the weekend and I thought I was going to have to tell her to go fuck herself for a minute.. I almost felt like she was calling me nigger...

What do you think?


A teenager said a few redhead jokes and you compare it to being called one of the most racially charged words in human history?

Sounds like a case of SMP.

[DemonGeminiX]

You cant do that to a 13 year old girl..

You're right... I'd beat the shit out of her parents first. Make it a family affair. :thumbsup:

[Muddy]

A teenager said a few redhead jokes and you compare it to being called one of the most racially charged words in human history?

Sounds like a case of SMP.

It very well could be Systems Management Planning..


You're right... I'd beat the shit out of her parents first. Make it a family affair. :thumbsup:


Can't we all just get along?

[DemonGeminiX]

Can't we all just get along?

Oh, she was a black girl?


:shifty:

[Muddy]

Oh, she was a black girl?


:shifty:


:lol:

[Acid Trip]

It very well could be Systems Management Planning..




Can't we all just get along?

It's a medical term and you have to read it backwards.

[Muddy]

It's a medical term and you have to read it backwards.

:lol:

[Jezter]

http://i.imgur.com/tWI43.png

[PorkChopSandwiches]

http://mydisguises.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ginger-bread-man-costume.jpg

[Korpiklaani]

Every time I tell someone I was born and raised in NYC, they think im a mean asshole. Do I like that? No. It pisses me off to the point where yes, I am a mean asshole to them. Then I tell them that they should try living in this giant piece of litter for 2 weeks, and then see how "nice" they are. I didn't grow up in the nicest part of the Bronx either. I hear gun shots every night, and don't go out past 1am.

I know what you are saying Muddy, people pre-judge all the time. You're fine just the way you are. And if they say differently, tell them to fuck off and suck their mothers fart box.

[redred]

http://i.imgur.com/ZiNQF.jpg

[Lambchop]

True redheads with pale skin are fucking sexy.

[minz]

Thought this fit nicely in this thread.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-20237511