Obama Calls for Renewal of Assault Weapons Ban

[Teh One Who Knocks]

By Devin Dwyer - ABC News


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President Obama tonight said he’s interested in seeing an assault weapons ban reintroduced, breaking his silence on the legislation, which has persisted in spite of at least five mass shootings during his term.

At the end of a long answer to the question, “What has your administration done or planned to do to limit the availability of assault weapons?” Obama said this:


“My belief is that, (A), we have to enforce the laws we’ve already got, make sure that we’re keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill. We’ve done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we’ve got more to do when it comes to enforcement.

“But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets. And so what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap hand guns.”

As a candidate in 2008, Obama campaigned on permanent reinstatement of the expired assault weapons ban, and Attorney General Eric Holder in 2009 indicated that the administration would lobby for a bill. But that never materialized and the White House has largely avoided talking about it.

In August, after the Sikh Temple shooting, Jay Carney said, “He does support renewing the assault weapons ban.”

But tonight is the first time during his first term that the sentiment has come from the president’s mouth.

[FBD]

the only problem we have with assault weapons is having them ushered across the border by fast & furious.

[Acid Trip]

“But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets. And so what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap hand guns.”

Read between the lines. He's saying "assault weapons are bad but guns in general are the bigger problem".

[RBP]

What's the big deal about assault weapons being banned?

Automatics are already banned according to Romney last night.

[Muddy]

We need assault weapons to protect us from the numerous blacks that have threatened to riot if Obama is not re-elected..

[RBP]

We need assault weapons to protect us from the numerous blacks that have threatened to riot if Obama is not re-elected..

Have you really heard that threat or are you just being Muddy?

[Muddy]

Have you really heard that threat or are you just being Muddy?

Yeah, I'll try and find the story... it was on Drudge but apparently was pulled...

[Muddy]

Now I dont know a thing about this website, but here you go..

http://www.infowars.com/new-threats-to-riot-if-obama-loses-election/

[RBP]

Reading Drudge again Muddy? :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

What's the big deal about assault weapons being banned?

Automatics are already banned according to Romney last night.

Obama is talking about semi-automatic weapons, not fully automatic.

And full autos aren't banned, you just need special permits to own them.

[Muddy]

Reading Drudge again Muddy? :lol:

I like the format.. And the quick access to neat storys.. I probably read different stuff than Anthem though..

[RBP]

Obama is talking about semi-automatic weapons, not fully automatic.

And full autos aren't banned, you just need special permits to own them.

So what's the downside to banning semi-auto assault rifles... protection from our own government?


I like the format.. And the quick access to neat storys.. I probably read different stuff than Anthem though..

;)

[Acid Trip]

So what's the downside to banning semi-auto assault rifles... protection from our own government?



;)

Semi-automatic is a category that most guns fall into. Semi-Automatic = pull the trigger once and one round is fired. Pull again and another is fired. Assault rifle is a muddied term as is. What denotes an assault rifle from a non-assault rifle? Caliber? Barrel length? Magazine capacity? Then there is the argument that assault rifles (whatever the definition) kill FAR LESS people than handguns.

The only weapons I own that are NOT semi-automatic are a pump shotgun and a bolt action deer rifle. Both require user intervention before another round can be fired.

In closing, fuck anyone who tries to take my guns away :mrgreen:

[RBP]

Semi-automatic is a category that most guns fall into. Semi-Automatic = pull the trigger once and one round is fired. Pull again and another is fired. Assault rifle is a muddied term as is. What denotes an assault rifle from a non-assault rifle? Caliber? Barrel length? Magazine capacity? Then there is the argument that assault rifles (whatever the definition) kill FAR LESS people than handguns.

The only weapons I own that are NOT semi-automatic are a pump shotgun and a bolt action deer rifle. Both require user intervention before another round can be fired.

In closing, fuck anyone who tries to take my guns away :mrgreen:

As you pointed out, Obama made that argument last night.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

They want to ban assault weapons so we cant protect ourselves against the government as they get more and more gestapo

[Acid Trip]

They want to ban assault weapons so we cant protect ourselves against the government as they get more and more gestapo

Also a possibility. One that I find more probable each and every day.

[FBD]

a disarmed population is always in the interests of the tyrannical government that oversees them

[Godfather]

From what I read, neither candidate is good for firearms rights.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

From what I read, neither candidate is good for firearms rights.

From the NRA:


October 4, 2012

Fairfax, VA. - The National Rifle Association's Political Victory Fund today announced its endorsement of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan for President and Vice President. NRA’s Executive Vice President, Wayne LaPierre, and NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) Chairman, Chris W. Cox, made the announcement in Fishersville, Virginia, during a rally with both Gov. Mitt Romney and Rep. Paul Ryan in attendance. Also, attending and performing at the press conference was country music superstar and NRA Life Member Trace Adkins.

“Virginia is ground zero – the front line of this election. This is where the race could be won or lost. This is where the difference can be made. This is where gun owners must make that difference.” said LaPierre.

“Today, we live in an America that is getting harder to recognize every day led by a President who mocks our values, belittles our faith, and is threatened by our freedom.” said Cox. “So on behalf of the four million men and women of the National Rifle Association, representing tens of millions of NRA supporters, it is my honor to announce the NRA’s endorsement of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan for President and Vice President of the United States.”

The actions of President Barack Obama have harmed the Second Amendment for generations to come. He has appointed two anti-gun nominees to the Supreme Court – one of whom has already signed an opinion saying that law-abiding Americans do not have an individual right to own firearms. Obama’s administration worked on a United Nations Arms Trade Treaty that would undermine our Second Amendment rights, and he has helped cover-up the deadly Operation Fast and Furious scandal, arming Mexican drug cartels that continue to kill countless innocent American and Mexican citizens. He has also said that the ability of lawful citizens to carry a firearm for personal protection should be banned nationwide. As a state legislator, he opposed a law to protect people who use guns in their own homes for self-defense; endorsed a total ban on the manufacturing, sale and possession of all handguns; and supported a 500 percent increase in federal taxes on guns and ammunition. Unaccountable to the voters, America’s 100 million gun owners justifiably fear that a second Obama term would bring an all-out assault on the Second Amendment.

But there’s a clear choice this November. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will protect our Right to Keep and Bear Arms by appointing Supreme Court justices who will uphold the rulings in District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. City of Chicago – two landmark cases which held that the Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental, individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms for all law-abiding Americans. Romney and Ryan have also stated their opposition to efforts by the United Nations to implement a global gun-control bureaucracy.

“In this election, there is no debate. There is only one choice – only one hope – to save our firearms freedom and our way of life,” LaPierre continued. “Get to the polls on election day and make the difference in this campaign. Help take back our country and protect our freedom. On November 6, vote freedom first – Vote Romney-Ryan!”

[Godfather]

How does anyone trust he'll do what he says any more than Obama though? He has flip flopped on firearms too (4:33)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=related

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Name me one politician that doesn't change their position based on who his/her constituents are.

[FBD]

I think one thing he wont be flip flopping on is a better way to incentivize businesses to hire, as opposed to obama's incentives to make people hire - increase worker costs, raise minimum wages, ensure its a pain in the ass to fire anyone, call the business owners greedy assholes who dont pay their fair share.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Name me one politician that doesn't change their position based on who his/her constituents are.

Ron Paul

[Acid Trip]

Ron Paul

:qft:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Ron Paul

And look where that got him ;)

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Im just saying.

[Loser]

How does anyone trust he'll do what he says any more than Obama though? He has flip flopped on firearms too (4:33)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=related

As long as he repeals the disaster known as obama care, I don't fucking care.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

and the Patriot Act

[Southern Belle]

We need assault weapons to protect us from the numerous blacks that have threatened to riot if Obama is not re-elected..

:lol: Exactly!

[Southern Belle]

Everybody has made good points here. No, we don't NEED assault weapons. But we have the RIGHT to keep and bear arms. No limitations or disclaimers.

[KevinD]

What we need is a clear definition of "assault weapons" before there is any real discussion of a ban. The Clinton era ban was a farce.